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Hello Lovely 2versers!
It's My 1st post on this thread and there's no chance that I'm backing reading all 200 pages!
I was expecting some same old same old Kdrama but I am pleasantly supprised with this here dram
Apparently it's a instant hit with that 12% rating. Another Noona/Dongsaeng Ramance yes Why is the father trying to kill the main Character of his popular comic book? If he wants to finish it all he has to is end it properly and not all bleak and death
unless daddy dearest is from that universe himself and has a grudge to bare with him or someone I that verse that would be shocking indeed.
My Bet Is That Dad Is From That Universe and Wants revenge on The Main Male Lead in the comic verse.
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What's new with our resident hottie ❤️
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Anyone Know Where I Can See Her In Her New Drama 'Reset'?
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I can honestly say that this ending was a real to life ending, it's realistic. I wouldn't have liked it if she didn't get any prison time because she did a lot of bad things for that family and was greedy to want to take all their fortune Nd send them all to prison. Well she deserved to be compensated for all her time and hard work for that family, it's good that I'm pretty sure that they all got prison time and lost all their fortune. An open ending is one that leaves us all with the fact that they are still together all be it she's in prison and he goes off to become a great pianist and become rich and famous so that he'll be able to support her when she is out of prison
we know that man loves that women is willing to wait x amount of time for her awe true love :x Satisfying Indeed! -
Oh dear me I see she's finally growing a pair and fighting back! Good girl, she needs to stop being their loyal dog. Now she sees how they truly are! I bet yu all he didn't even give her that much money for wasting all her youth on them and their dirty businesses and deeds. Im just waiting for these final two episodes next week to see her bringing them all down and I know that she is going to have to face some prison time since she did all those illegal things for that family. I hope that the husband lets her go and that she and YJ can be somewhat happy at the end. Its heart breaking to see them both suffering and all, these people are so wretched creatures to be sure! That secretary looks like she thinks she is going to take Professor's Oh's place when see is gone
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- Episodes 11 & 12 were great after we had to wait awhile to get to see them that is! so sorry I'm late in commenting all, I'm pretty sure that everyone has lovely insightful comments and I really don't want to repeat what's been said and all. I'd like to backtrack and read everything but alas I have a lot to catch up on various threads ATM as well as recapping
- Why oh why can't she stop being a pawn And Tool of theirs!? She needs to grow a pair and say screw it all and go off with Main Man? Why stay in a loveless marriage? What's with everyone enjoying her scandal, can't a person be happy? But that doesn't mean she is right in having an affair I'm pretty sure he has to no doubt. Such a sad tragic love our OTP have quiet the opposite of the other Noona Romance drama
- Episodes 11 & 12 were great after we had to wait awhile to get to see them that is!
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dingax said: Really enjoyed the first four episodes.
I am enjoying the baddies a lot more than the good guys, namely murderer Dad, Michael and chairwoman/minion. BTW, Michael is not part of the Golden Cross right? Wonder when he decides to offer Dad up as sacrificial lamb. Murderer Dad reminds me of the main bad guy in Secret last year though I can't pinpoint why cos they seem to be driven by different motivations. There are so many cross-purposes that I am going to enjoy seeing how they trip each other up. -
Spica- I'm A Witch (Witch's Romance Pt. 1)
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bmw277 said: i was like biting my lips and holding my fist every time i saw that old so-called attorney and pervert old seo dong ha!!my goodness this drama really testing my patience #:-S
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@imot I don't think think its the same for all Countries. The U.S ran and funded for those 0.001&ers. Our is ran by our government, etc. I cant imagine North America ran that why where the extremely rich people with their billions of $$$ controlling the countries economy doing dirty deeds for the sake of its citizens and what not
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victorb said: After watching ep 3 and 4 I'm starting to get the feeling that dark tone which attracted me in the first two ep might be replaced by another story about rich evil guys who basically do anything they want and the poor guy who fights against them. There's nothing wrong with that but it's just that I can name at least 5 other series that told the same story (by the way the poor guy almost always ends up dead unless he's the secret son of a rich family or whatever).
These 2 ep were more of a transition for me as nothing major really happened except DY getting started on his revenge journey at the end of ep 4, it was all about the bad guys being bad and the ordinary, powerless people like DY being well... powerless. Hopefully when our hero enters the sketchy lawyer's firm things get a little more interesting and some long overdue psychological torture starts for the Golden Cross gang.
About YR there's nothing much to say so far since her character is one I've seen before in dramaland so there's nothing really surprising about her: daughter of a rich family with a strong sense of justice but who is too blind to see her own family's wrongdoings (Shark anyone?). I'm waiting to see how things develop for her after she teams up with the righteous lawyer and her father becomes the target of their investigation (I can almost smell the makjang) ).
I feel I'm being a little negative in this post so I'll point out the highlight of the series for me so far - the acting. I have two actors in mind when I say this: Uhm Ki Joon and Kim Kang Woo. They are both doing a great job at portraying their characters even if sometimes there are moments when the script almost pushes them OTT in terms of normal human reaction.
I hope the recent news about the series' supposed lack of consideration for the younger public don't affect the story and we still get the revenge journey we were promised without any added PG elements because life isn't always PG and this was supposed to be a portrayal of the darkest parts of our society right?
P.S. I was wondering what were the requirements for membership in the Golden Cross club? A boat-load of money and to be a certified sociopath? -
Episode 4: I'm Also Going To Put This In A Spoiler Tag As Well For Those That Have Not Seen It Yet And/or Can Read It Afterwards
Well it took me a good while to watch it all since I was taking notes and all
Yes Notes Like A School Kid All in all this episode did not disappoint me in the least besides a few gripes and why oh why moments of mine I will expand upon in a while. I'll have to agree with @amayah and @imot said that this drama is not afraid to show the viewers that in the real world is filled with evil and wicked people that do the unthinkable things. Glad that they were not afraid to address the common prostitution practice that business and the like do. They don't out right show the viewers the characters doing the actual scenes to spare those viewers that will find it not suitable for the feint of heart in my opinion. I hope they do not go and mess it up by changing it up due to negative comments and reviews. So Do Yun goes into be questioned by Prosecutor Seo Yi Re, He tells that she should indict he as soon as possible as he and hi mom want to not be bother by it any longer. He added that by it going to trail sooner rather then later, the faster the citizens will forget the thing. He also said that he did enough investigating himself, to which Prosecutor stands up angrily says as he is leaving; Did you meet with Moon Jae Ho?! Did he do enough investigating because that's what prosecutors do and that he lacks that prosecutor trait and tells him to leave. Basically telling him that he isn't prosecutor material.
Chief Seo calls "Moon Jae Ho" the man in charge of the Account in question, telling him that an investor will be poking around in the account and will be asking questions about said account. Chief Seo and Park Hee Seo (who happens to be an Ex-Chief Prosecutor himself), are talking about Michael Jang's demand of selling him Hanmin Bank for $1 Billion U.S Dollars. They are made because they already lowered the BIS Ratio to make it easier to sell it & Bank stock prices go down if it is known to have bad management. So off Park Hee Seo goes off to meet with Micheal Jang and informs him that Chief Says that over his dead body that he'd sell him the bank at his offering price to which Micheal Laughs off. He goes on to talk about sending $187,000($167,000 Not to sure sloppy handwriting fail) Dollars for three bottles of wine at roughly 180 million won, Basically its pocket change to him that he brought over on his private personal jet. Customs over there are a joke so he was able to bring it over. This impresses Park Hee Seo, Micheal takes it further and bribes Him with saying that he, too, can have his own private jet and a house of his own as well as the monies and a bottle of expensive wine. Seems like Park Hee Seo most likely will switch teams later in the game seeing as Micheal has all that he wants and is willing to share the goods.
Micheal informs PHS that PAX'S Motto Is: 'DIVIDE AND CONQUER' (what's this a battle field!?"
Money Is the root of all evil with the Golden Group
Do Yun begs his mom to eat for his sake because she only has him know and she had to live on since Dad confessed to everything. Mom gets angry and screams why did you study!? why study to become a prosecutor if he cant even save his own father! To which he tells her that he knows that he didn't do it that he cant do anything about it since there's evidence that says otherwise. Then he goes off adding more hurt and heart ache for his mother by blurting out that Ha Yun wasn't what everyone thought she was, Mom says what do you mean she wasn't who she was! Your sister will be wailing at her grave if she heard what he said about her. He left without telling her the truth about Ha Yun.
Neighbors being gossiping busybodies, A classmate of DY calls asking why he isn't at the appointment ceremony. He asks if he didn't get the text and DY says that he thought it was tomorrow and he didn't get a text. Turns out that everyone was notified except him since his appointment has been deferred. After over hearing the comments made by other aspiring prosecutors saying that he should quit and shouldn't be showing his face around them. He eats in silence as his "Classmates" have all shunned him on account of being a murderers son. He gets a call saying that His mom is making a scene and to get her ASAP. Before he leaves he pays his fee and yells that he is NOT QUITING on being a prosecutor and not to get ahead of themselves and leaves.
Turns out mom had an appointment with Manager Yang a junior of his father who had a petition with signatures form everyone that want to help the family. Mom was yelling angrily saying that she had an appointment with Manager Yang but Manager Yang was hiding in the Restroom, PHS comes in, Manager Yang asks why he cant hand over the petition to her since it'll help Team Leader Kang. But of course, PHS tells him why should he since he went to prison for Embezzlement and took Money for himself. To which Manager Yang is Shocked. Mom gets angry with DY saving what's wrong in getting a petition signed to help his father and is shocked when he calls his father a criminal! Manager Yang and Park Hee Seo go see the President of the Bank and Manager wants to hand over the petition but President Man says that he should continue to do a good job. PHS says that He's the new Team Leader. Poor guy is the new tool, fool and fall guy but he does deserve it if he believes the baddies talking about his sunbae like that.
So on the drive back home mom is extremely upset and in disbelief that her husband junior didn't want to help and give her the petition saying that her husband did a lot for him and this is how he repays him. Do Yun Promises that he'll become a prosecutor he'll hunt down the real killer and save his father!
Chief Seo is ranting that Do Yun can not be allowed to be appointed a prosecutor as that will not benefit them in the least, he'll be like a tiger in hunting down the truth that his father was framed and that it was him that killed his sister and PHS covered it all up. So PHS calls his buddy and gets some good news that Do Yun's Appointment has been deferred for the time being. The Beast is at bay for the time being but I am thinking that Prosecutor Seo or Micheal Jang will help him get his Appointment Date reinstated. Just A Hunch.
Prosecutor Seo Yi Re is disappointed that they are denied access to the account due to them needing a legal order for them to be able to look into that account, since that would take to long and she doesn't want to get international help, there's nothing they can do about that matter.The Smart Clever Cookie Prosecutor has a hunch that Moon Jae Ho is a Phantom Person and sends a S.O.S to daddy and ask for help. she really needs to stop running to daddy for help that's a gripe of mine with her.
Mom enlightens dad that he never stopped to think about the consequences of his actions and decisions has on Do Yun, why does he have to block his future. First with his dream of Taekwondo he had to give up when he went to prison that one time and now this. He never thought about his son being branded and labeled a Murderer's Son for life. That now he cant become a Prosecutor now that he has confessed to murdering their daughter which she says he's an idiot for covering up for someone else. Why does he if have ruin their sons future again.
Do Yun vents his emotions on a punching bag and cries for the tragedy that is his life and family.
Dad remembers the quote on Park Hee Seo's tablet when he was being question/told what to recite when he met with the prosecutor in charge of the case. He asks the young man who was with him when the detective threatened him, since he worked at a computer store if there were tablets with the quote: "Justice Will Definitely Prevail"on them. He says that you can get them engraved with whatever you want to say. Shady man says that those that work in the legal field would get that engraved, which dad has an aha moment.
Father In Law, Chief Seo & Micheal Jang are in a meeting/discussion about acquiring Hanmin Bank. Chief Seo Informs President Jang That "We're not supposed to sell Banks to private equity funds." Micheal wants to buy Hanmin Bank for $ 1 Billion Dollar. Chief Seo Says "You want me to sell a $4.2 Billion Dollar Bank for $1 Billion Dollars and then go to prison for it!" Micheal: "The fund ate up both Hanmin Bank and Jeil Bank" Father In Law: "We have to open up the Financial Market to Revive our economy. Only then will our Intellectual Service Industry Develop, Too." Micheal is all smiles he hears what he wants to hear from the Chief Seo's Father In Law (Minister of Finance).
Prosecutor Seo Yi Re enters the room, says that they have gotten no where with getting into Moon Jae Ho's Account, President Jang Readily offers to assist her into looking into Moon Jae Ho's Account. Says that he has friends/colleagues spread out everywhere and he'll ask them for help. She thanks him adds that its a Account at New Star Bank and he says to text him the account number so he can look into it quickly. The look of fear of being discovered by his beloved daughter is priceless though.
The next day Chief Seo runs to speak with Micheal, who, is to busy putting together a Mobile Suit Gundam Figurine Model. Chief Seo tries to get his attention but Micheal ignores him until his finished putting it together. Micheal Brags saying that its a Gundam 30th Anniversary Edition and that it took him 22 hours to put together! He states that there's another one in a different color in Japan and that he should go off and buy it. Chief Seo couldn't careless, he begs Micheal not to assist his daughter with the account as its an account that is managed by The Golden Group. Micheal says so he doesn't care, that he got an email in the morning from a friend that works at New Star Bank with Personal Information about the account. if he wants he to not help then he should give in to his demand for the selling price for Hanmin Bank. Chief Seo ask if he wouldn't ask to add anything else (I forget what he said exactly at the moment) and micheal says no he wouldn't. Micheal calls Prosecutor Seo saying that the account holder must be huge hot shot as he couldn't do anything about it. Seo Is Happy ofcourse...
Prosecutor Seo is disappointed with hitting another road block, she request another interview/questioning of Kang Hu Wan.
A friend of KHW visits him, saying that he should recant, he knows him, he should think about his son's future and that he should trust the prosecutor as she trustworthy and is one of the good guys so tell her the truth.
Do Yun pleads with his mentor on getting him an appointed date set, asks him that the reason for him getting deferred was because of his father's case? Sadly, his mentor tells him that he shouldn't be thinking about getting appointed since his dad is going to trial. The citizen's wouldn't be able to trust him to getting successful trails as he is a son of a murderer and a prosecutor has to have a good image for a citizen to trust him and all but that's damaged now. He aslo added that if he were a Prosecutor that they would say that his father got acquitted because his son is an attorney. (The baddies don't want him to get an double edge sword)(gotta keep the man down).
Prosecutor Seo is ripping into the Corrupt Detective who's name eludes me at the moment, saying how can you lose the signal after 9:00 if the victims hand phone was never recovered/it wasn't at the scene of the crime. And not get any of the victims phone records.She adds that probably does happen rather sarcastically to the detective. She informs the detective that she can also charge detectives with not doing their jobs right or something like that forgot to jot that part down. Detective is dismissed and gives KHW that warning look before he makes a phone call to Park Hee Seo telling him that he going to recant that he cant do anything as they kicked him out the building and PHS rushes right over to stop him from spilling the beans.
KHW is supprised that they deleated the text message that was sent to him that night, but he listens as PHS ask if she knew Moon Jae Ho. She asks if he knew him, He says that MKH is a VIP at the Bank/Firm and that he had contacted him noticing that his account was being traced and she to tell you that she could ask any and all questions she has and he'd answer them in his stead. Dad learns the important information about the man that framed him. That he works at Shin Myung and his name is Park Hee Seo. PHS Threatens him again and leaves, Dad chickens out again and chages his mind. Prosecutor Seo is at loss since she knows that he was going to say something.
My Reaction To That Scene of Him Changing His Mind Again: "Dumb**s Changed His Mind Again That Fool!"
Do Yun laments his sad unprivileged life with soju, friend is at a loss with a drunk crying Do Yun on the sidewalk making a scene. Prosecutor Seo and Co witeness that scene oh boy..pretty dang sad :'(
Do Yun goes job hunting, visits Ha Yun's Memorial and visits Dad at prison. He tells he that he would have been appointed today with the prosecutors Rob, Pinned and would have read the Prosecutors Oath. He talks with a Fake Smile Plastered on his face, tells his dad that he's lost and doesn't know what to do now. He gets up to leave, Dad calls out to him and he places his hands on the glass. Do Yun focuses on his palms. He rushes back to get a better look and reads "Shin Myung Park Hee Seo" Do Yun asks if that it and dad nods yes. Prison guard noticed whats going on and drags him away with Do Yun yelling that he needs to trust him now.
Do Yun cries some more at treating his dad way and giving up on him from the get go. He walks to his car notices a shady individual and proceeds to have a self monologue saying that he find out the truth, all those involved and peel flesh from bone and make them suffer a 10,000 times worse for what they have done to his family. He gets in his care and notices that the other driver isn't leaving, so he turns off his car and waits. The other car leaves shortly afterwards.
Now we finally have our resident revenge seeking hero fully flesh out and in that mode. Now that dad has finally told that he didn't do it and gave him the name of one of the men involved, now I will not be yelling at the screen when he does and says something dumb. Daddy Seo is like a Skittish Rabbit and afraid to lose his precious if she were found out the truth. Which is rather funny and ironic when she said that she can never imagine her dad ever doing that, he'd never do that, it wasn't in him. Oh women if you only knew..that man is the >
in disguise. What I liked about in this episode:
- Prosecutor Seo. I like that she doesn't back down when asking questions and getting answers, Present her with a Bone and she will not let that bone go. She's persistent in getting into that Account, tires various ways.
Mom is on a mission to save her husband and will do anything to get him out. She never doubted and she knows him well since they spent most of their life together. He'd never hurt her let alone kill her.
The episode was never dull or boring to me, I didn't zone or space out. that's a good thing.
It maintains the ugliness that is todays world and society.
The characters are more fleshed out in that we learn a little bit more about them.
Do Yun is finally now in the know about who was involved and now is ready to start his revenge against the bad guysWhat I didn't Like:
- I don't like it when Prosecutor Seo always runs, asks or consults her dad for help. Isnt she supposed to be go at what she does? didn't she say she wanted to do things with out any help? or that she likes not asking for help?
Why oh why does corrupt detective stand outside the door and make a phone call? or why you baddies minions always lurk around to get discovered like he did by the two employees that exited the room. well yea I understand it plot wise necessary to help along the drama..That's pretty much all for my dislikes
I think that pretty much it as this turned out as a long recap with comments and reactions 8-} So everyone that has read my novella til the end congrats!<:-P I might do it again for the rest of the drama but we'll see, did it before but stopped. Thanks For Reading Guys!
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Episode 3: I'll Go Ahead And Put In Spoiler Tag As To Save Those That Still Have Not Seen This Episode Yet..
It's an all around great episode in that it gives us more or tells us once again how the set him up and what to say when the prosecutor when he is questioned. (the setting up the frame/cover up). It reinforced to me and the viewers how the weak, the poor and the citizens that live believing in the law, right and wrong and value the truth and those that live virtuous; are the once to become victim's (pawns, puppets and scapegoat's) that the rich can use to escape punishment for their evil deeds and to gain more monies to line their already Fat bank accounts.
Things That Made Me Go 'Why Oh Why"
- When Do Yun goes to SR Entertainment Building pretending to be a Manager, gets the information on that Delivery Service and proceeds to call the number all the while Ponytail Guy (Sorry Don't Know His Name but he's President Hong's Right Hand Man) Is standing looking all shady like obviously duh. Couldn't he have waited until he got into his car and called that number or gone somewhere where the possible bad guys work at?!
- Chief Seo and Glasses Guy that master minds the whole frame up, they keep the Kang Ha Yun's Handphone. Do they not know that the police can track the phones GPS and figure out that the killer would have it and trace it back to them. I am glad that President Hong is a smart cookie, even though she is a bad bish. She traced Kang Ha Yun's cell phone and found out that someone sent out a text pretending to be her to lure out the reporter guy and found out that her phone is in Golden Group Building. So yeah she knows that Chief Seo is a Murdering Son of a gun. I take it fro what has been say by Micheal Jang, that he has done it again so he did something like this before then? or was it about the whole incident before..well if they had her phone they could have been able to get all her text messages but alas they destroyed.
- Seo Yi Re. Everyone with a working brain knows that if you are a Lawyer, Attorney, District Attorney & Prosecutor knows that you DO NOT discuss any cases with family, friends, relatives, anybody in general that is not directly involved with the case. That will going cause harm then good as important information can be spread to the mass and into the other opposing parties hands. So basically shesucks in that aspect but is good that she is like a blood hound that once she gets a scent she'll go after it until she gets what she is after! Lol that reaction from Chief Seo though! he is sweating bullets now!
- Chief Seo has no Poker Face! Like seriously the man can not hide his reactions and emotions at all. Can he make it more obvious! and no one even notices:(
What I Liked:
- That Do Yun is finally using that head of his and starting to go about finding out the truth I his own way. He knows that his father didn't do it and is taking the fall for the real killer, he just has to uncover the truth himself.
- The Mother realizing that her greed for money to open up the restaurant lead her husband to do what he did. I am thinking that Do Yun may feel abit guilt in the way he has been treating his father but it has been addressed yet.
- I am happy that the father has finally told Do Yun how he truly felt about him and the wife. that they both are at fault too for DY saying that he is an easy target and the wife always nagging about money and he had to break his back to please and provide for them while sacrificing his morals and all.
By the way was that Mister Ponytail guy acting as that prison guard that threaten the father to hurt Do Yun if he talked?
That chase scene and its music reminds of them good old 70's movies
Classic :-bd and it reminded me of some old school aime as well MACK TRUCK OF DOOM makes an appears in this drama too!
I think that's all but it'll do for now
Off To Watch Episode 4
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I really really HOPE that they (the station and writer nim) do not carter to the Korean viewers that are weak stomached as they do actually show any sexual interactions or situations and what not L-)
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stuartjmz said: chrissydiva said: I have a question because I'm so confused. Is that lady LSY character's mother or stepmother?
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lindy01 said: There are so many villains 'face' in this drama esp the Golden Cross gang. I've seen a few of Kim Kang Woo & Lee Si Young movies and will be here to support this drama.Somehow I'd prefer to see Lee Si Young with a shorter tomboy haircut.
KBS do made good dramas but the storyline may not appeal to the local viewers taste. My 2 recent favourites from KBS, are 'Beyond the clouds' & 'Miss Korea'. Both were exceptionally brilliant in casting and actings. I do hope Golden Cross can do well too. Having an idol wannabe actor in it doesn't guarantee success if the storyline is confusing. -
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@msmall OMG my bad I didn't scroll down all the way. Lol had a blonde moment there. Where's my shoulder pads =)) @lhjj More Problem. Glad it cleared it up for you
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Ihjj said: gaby81 said: The BIS=Bank For International Settlements, International Organization for Central Banks That Babysits International Monies. For More Read Attached Link
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements
Well I'm not versed on Bank Terms and how it all works either
but I think that they are manipulating the numbers and figures to hide all the 'Shady Money' that the bank has hiding away or are covering it up by stealing monies from these loans or all...but that's a guess of mine at the moment. -
The BIS=Bank For International Settlements, International Organization for Central Banks That Babysits International Monies. For More Read Attached Link
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_for_International_Settlements
Well I'm not versed on Bank Terms and how it all works either
but I think that they are manipulating the numbers and figures to hide all the 'Shady Money' that the bank has hiding away or are covering it up by stealing monies from these loans or all...but that's a guess of mine at the moment. -
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It's My 1st post on this thread and there's no chance that I'm backing reading all 200 pages! 
ing. Another Noona/Dongsaeng Ramance yes 
we know that man loves that women is willing to wait x amount of time for her 
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so sorry I'm late in commenting all, I'm pretty sure that everyone has lovely insightful comments and I really don't want to repeat what's been said and all. I'd like to backtrack and read everything but alas I have a lot to catch up on various threads ATM 
as well as recapping 
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Does anyone know where I can watch the directors cut/version of the first 3 episodes? PM the link or links, thanks in advance