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6 hours ago, Stephanie Lim said:

Type B Blood

People with Type B Blood are like the Leos of blood types. By nature, they crave social interaction and are often described as the life of the party. They make friends easily and fall in and out of relationships often. B Types thrive on rule breaking and hate to be boxed in. They are often drawn to jobs that let them express their creativity.

As lovers, Type B are passionate and surprising, in and outside of the bedroom. However, they have a tendency to be selfish and act without considering the consequences. In Japan, Type Bs are known as heart-breakers.

Type Bs’ chaotic lifestyle is a deal-breaker for Type As and when two Type Bs get together, neither will remember to pay the bills on time.

The best partner for Type B is Type AB or Type O. AB Types can inspire Type B’s creativity with their own and inject some rationality into the relationship. That said, their tendency to be sensitive and easily hurt is at odds with Type B’s risk-taking behaviour.

 

I’m a Type B...how come this doesn’t match at all with me XDD LOL

but at least I have the same blood type as Taeun XDD

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20 minutes ago, chantaljaey said:

I didn't know that the guy beside Naeun was the second lead guy I fell for in Goong! He looks different now. 

 

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Kim Jeong Hoon?? Really??

 

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21 minutes ago, chantaljaey said:

Among TWICE members I see Tzuyu as the nearest to Naeun's personality - shy and quiet. I think this is what Naeun sees and feels.

 

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I think so too, she doesn’t talk much on variety either, the same as our Nangni.

 

by the way those weekly idol coincidences are no joke. MBC really ships them!!

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38 minutes ago, watermelon2512 said:

This is a preview of Son Naeun in radio Star where at the first half of the convo she admitted to have a crush on Twice Tzuyu

 

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I can see people shipping Naeun & Tzuyu now...

 

and i don’t know why the interview somehow make me doubt their (Taeun) relationship?? I think I will get over it soon and believing in them again...

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29 minutes ago, watermelon2512 said:

I suddenly remember a blog explaining about why some Shawols they don't support Taeun.

I want to share this especially for new Taeunians shipper to get a glimpse of what happened in the past.

This was written a long time ago in 2014.

I like her writing really honest and straight to the point . She is clearly stated that she's not Taeun fans but the way she explaining everything from her point of view is really good (at least in my opinion).

I fall under one of her category but I don't feel offended by it (I'm sure all of you in the same category as I am  )

Reasonable and well said.

I respect her opinion.

 

A point of view from a non Taeunians

(I put it under hidden content cause it's too long)

 

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Why everyone hates WGM

 

A lot of people asked me questions about this a few months back when the issue re-exploded over the Taemin Nae-eun advertisement in the Korean subways. Basically a group of TaeEun shippers chose to take at an advertisement in a large, very public subway station congratulating Taemin and Nae-eun on their ‘one year anniversary.’ Maybe this post is a little late, but I still get questions about We Got Married to this day so I figure people are still confused. As always, I hope this post doesn’t reignite any hate or drama: we’re hoping for the opposite. A little understanding of where people are coming from on all sides can only help, right?

 

I've seen this question answered a few times but there's still a lot of fans who are confused as to why We Got Married is despised as much as it is by certain circles of Korean SHINee fans. And really I don't blame anyone for being confused because I've never seen a fantastic explanation in English. So I'm going to attempt explaining as best I can after asking around a little and gathering a few different sources. This might be a little late but I hope it helps people understand just why Korean fans are so upset at supposed WGM shippers and the We Got Married franchise in general.

 

The back story (skip if you just want to get into the juicy part)

 

My friend very kindly explained the history of We Got Married for some context. We Got Married started out selling itself as a total reality tv show (not to be mistaken with a Western reality tv show); the appeal was that people could watch the show and speculate as to who had real feelings and who was just acting. It generated gossip and speculation and the cast members never admitted to having genuine feelings for one another, but they never outright denied it either. In the beginning the show represented actual Korean dating and marriage culture and although parts were exaggerated, viewers were able to relate to relationships being represented on screen. Arguably the actual fuel for the show’s popularity was the gossip it generated.

 

At the time the show at least tried to maintain the reality aspect by using hidden cameras, especially within the couples homes. There were times where footage might be taken by a cameraman but MBC tried to present the show as 'reality TV' as much as possible. For example there would be scenes shot from the air conditioner’s point of view.

 

The show experienced reasonable popularity, but as time went on and more and more couples filtered through the show, the concept began to fall apart at the seams. When they were finished with the show, some couples would move on to marrying their real life partner or get caught dating during the show. There were controversies regarding people's behavior and attitude on the show and the general concept began to lose it's sparkle. We Got Married lost it's mainstream audience and popularity. Many people began to question why it was still airing. The producers were left to scramble for new strategies to fix the show's waning popularity.

 

Hence the appearance of Idols on the show. There's a difference between a celebrity in Korea and an Idol. Nowadays, Idol usually refers to company trained and debuted singers, generally in a group, who function not only as singers, but also in a variety of aspects of the entertainment industry. Idols inspire huge fan followings and so it's no surprise that musicals, variety shows and dramas are always keen to cast them to boost flagging ratings or generate public interest.

 

Idol couples saved WGM's flagging popularity. Some couples like Jung Hyungdon and Taeyeon from SNSD flopped, but the double idol couples like CN Blue's Jung Yonghwa and SNSD's Seoyeon and 2pm's Nickhun and f(x)'s Victoria were hugely popular especially overseas in Korea's Hallyu market. Jo Kwon and Ga In were already household names in entertainment, but also experienced huge popularity on WGM. What this overseas interest in the show meant was that MBC were now able to make a decent amount of money off of broadcasting copyrights since they were selling We Got Married to an overseas market, primarily in other Asian countries. The show might not have been making huge waves in Korea anymore, but it was still generating revenue.

 

The big picture

 

This brings us to why exactly We Got Married is so despised. Some Korean fans hate to see their idol on the show for a number of reasons.

 

1. Here's the super obvious one: no one likes to see their bias holding hands with another girl, romancing her, saying I love you and enacting a fake relationship on screen where you get to watch all the gory details. Let's be real. It sucks.

 

2. The script. First of all when we say the show is scripted, we mean that every TV show is given an overarching ‘script’ that is responsible for dictating the direction the show goes in whether it’s a variety program or talk show. Sometimes this might mean a word for word script, but mainly it means the general events are outlined and set in stone by the broadcasting company and producers. Argue until you're blue in the face whether the show is scripted or not but Korean fans believe very firmly that We Got Married is almost entirely scripted. If you check out the ending credits there's a script writers credit. This script dictates an idol act a certain way and the reason this sits so uncomfortably with a lot of Korean fans is that often times the script will represent a version of your bias that isn't cohesive with reality. A good example of this is the episode of We Got Married where Taemin and Naeun go bungee jumping. Anyone who's seen SHINee's One Fine Day knows that Taemin has a passion for extreme sports. He jumps out of a plane and while he seems nervous, he's more excited and pumped for the experience than anything. Earlier than this, SHINee also did a stint bungee jumping on their first reality show after debut ‘Yonhanam’. He was very minimally nervous and by the time he appeared on WGM, he’d already experienced bungee jumping at least once.  So it's extremely strange that he magically has a fear of bungee jumping on We Got Married. Just sayin.

 

Script writing credits at the end of WGM:

 

 

 

3. The show is being sold as 'reality tv'. MBC like to firmly deny that the show is scripted and insist that everything broadcast is completely real. What this means is that everything Taemin does on the show is held accountable to his name and character. The general public don't know Lee Taemin. They know of SHINee, but the general Korean audience might only be able to name Kim Jonghyun as that guy from SHINee who sings really well, or Choi Minho that good looking kid who's on Dream Team and Star King a lot. For most people, We Got Married is the first contact they've ever had with Lee Taemin and not just the group SHINee. The general population are not idiots; they know that We Got Married is fake to a certain degree, but they don't know where the real person starts and MBC's script begins.

 

This is especially concerning given that MBC is one of the three biggest broadcasting stations in the country and WGM occupies a prime time slot. A lot of people have access and are watching the show.

 

4. Mangboongs. You may or may not have heard the term from concerned Korean fans. Mangboong or 망붕 is short for 망상분자 which means 'people who fall into delusion'.

 

There are two kinds of Mangboongs. The first kind is just your innocent We Got Married viewer who was so consumed by the illusion they passionately believe the We Got Married couple is completely sincere. There are different levels to how deep into the illusion they might have fallen. Some Mangboongs will acknowledge that the show is scripted but believe that the relationship between the couple is genuine. Other's are so deep in they insist that a script does not exist and that the whole production is completely real.

 

The second kind of Mangboong are internet trolls. We don’t know who these people are exactly. They could be anti-fans or fans from rival fandoms or even just attention seeking internet trolls who are causing trouble for the sake for entertainment’s sake. These internet trolls pose as fans of the couple in order to fuel the situation negatively. Given that these fans show themselves online and are therefore able to remain completely anonymous there's no knowing why exactly they choose to fuel the situation negatively.

 

Mangboongs of both variety function nearly entirely on the internet. Merely posting photos or videos promoting the couple is fairly harmless, but the real trouble begins when fans begin taking sides in the relationship. For example in the infamous episode where Naeun cried supposedly because Taemin had treated her badly, there was a lot of online discussion about what a jerk he was. Fans of the couple began to manipulate public opinion by posting comments and criticisms of his behavior. And they aren't restricted to fandom only portals like SHINee, A Pink or We Got Married forums. They can spread their 'promotion' of the couple to other general interest websites such as Naver, Daum or Bestiz, where netizens are able to make comments and discuss. Netizens who have no idea of Taemin's real character or the extent to which the We Got Married shows are scripted.

 

Mangboongs sphere of influence is not exclusive to the internet either. Banners supporting WGM couples at overseas airports, presents in the name of the couple, advertisements in subways. It's blurring the lines between fantasy and reality: If an average Korean consumer sees the actions of the Mangboong fans in a public context they don't have the necessary knowledge to verify what's reality or not. It's akin to spreading false dating rumours, which cause scandals and can have negative repercussions on the idols involved.

 

Let's take all of these points and apply them in context.

 

A good example of why all this is so concerning to Taemin's fans is the episode of WGM where Taemin supposedly made Naeun cry. He got a lot of negative attention because of this incident.

 

So operating with all the strong evidence that We Got Married is scripted in mind; MBC told Taemin to act like a jerk. It's a classic gender stereotype employed by We Got Married to draw the audience in: the poor soft, innocent nice girl is hurt by the words of the bad boy she 'loves'. Taemin did as he was told and followed the script. WGM staff exasperated the situation by adding their own subtitles and commentaries on screen highlighting what a 'bad guy' he was and instructing Naeun to cry. If Taemin was following a script then there is no doubt Naeun too was being instructed on how to act.

 

In turn because MBC insist that the show is reality tv, they are therefore pinning all the blame for Taemin's actions while following their script on Taemin alone. In an industry where image is everything, Taemin's reputation is incredibly precious to his fans. They realize that the kind of negative attention this generates is undeserved by Taemin and potentially damaging.

 

How does it become damaging? Because Mangboongs spread the content. Idol affairs don't necessarily concern the general public, but if a Mangboong fan were to post a video of Naeun crying and title it: 'Taemin makes Naeun cry' on a non fandom general interest blog or website, they are a) exposing it to people who have no reason to discern reality from lie and b) taking the episode out of context.

 

Why do random non-fan netizens matter though? What does it matter that they have a bad opinion of Taemin because of a show? It matters because that Netizen is a person. They have an identity offline and buying power here in Korea. They also have the ability to gossip with their friends about what a jerk 'Taemin' is and spread that negative opinion. As consumers it doesn't take much to sway a customers loyalty. If enough people hear rumors of the incident it's not too hard for them to simply choose to not stream SHINee's music or buy from a make up or shoe shop endorsed by them. After all there are literally only a hundred other places they could buy makeup in the near vicinity alone.

 

Understanding all these things, I'm sure it becomes apparent why some fans hate We Got Married, no?

 

Some Additional Notes

 

All of the above applies to any fandom which has been unfortunate enough to have their bias appear on We Got Married. '너네 오빠 우결이나 찍어라 ㅋ' meaning 'I hope your oppa appears on We Got Married' is seen as a curse on someone or a way of bad mouthing them. This is before the added drama of Taemin's situation.

 

I should probably make a note that fans were initially very well behaved regarding We Got Married. Undeniably SHINee and Taemin’s fans were not happy that he would be appearing on the show, but they kept their opinions to themselves and very quietly chose to not react publicly so as to not create tension between fans. Negative opinions expressed publicly by fans could also affect Taemin negatively. Until a certain infamous incident: MBC staff appeared on camera calling Taemin '개새끼'  and it was the final straw. The translation into English 'Son of a richard simmons' really doesn't do the insult justice. It also adds to long-held suspicions about the staff culture that is cultivated within MBC. SHINee and Taemin are contract workers for MBC. As Idols they don’t have a lot of sway or influence and are subject to the desires of large companies.Fans have concerns that the swearing incident potentially alludes to a verbally abusive or at least somewhat hostile working environment within the company. A company that SHINee have very regular contact with.

 

More evidence of this negative staff culture is apparent when you look at reports that MBC staff, while filming at Everland Amusement Park, were shining laser lights in onlooking fans eyes to ward them away. MBC staff were not only harassing and warding fans away, they were chasing away average customers at Everland who had no association with Taemin or Naeun. These non fans were understandably upset with the circumstances and the rude behaviour of the MBC staff. The fan account that circulated seemed positive that fans were keeping their distance and behaving. In any case it's pretty dangerous to shine anything like that into someone's eyes.

 

On a more personal note I've never met a nice staff member at MBC in all the times I've done SHINee promotions. KBS staff are mostly polite and SBS staff have been known to be pretty awesome, but in my opinion MBC staff are all jerks. Theyre hired security are the rudest individuals I have ever met.

 

If we really want to list more reasons why We Got Married is so hated we can also examine how it is exactly the show chooses to present gender stereotypes. We Got Married as a show chooses to perpetuate certain gender dynamics that are crazy archaic, even in a Korean’s point of view. There's an emphasis on male dominance. Women are often portrayed as weak and silly. These sort of gender dynamics and cliches; when they appear in dramas they are accepted because they are acknowledged as not real. While a lot of Korean dramas leave a lot to be desired in how women are portrayed, at least script writers aren't insisting that their dramas are completely accurate representations of real life or are otherwise not at all scripted. As a broadcaster it's not illegal for MBC to continue to portray negative gender stereotypes and insist they're reality; it just sucks of them.

 

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I read that article before and yes, I respect her opinion, but I'm afraid I can't say I like it. So I'm not gonna comment further on this...

 

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11 hours ago, chantaljaey said:

Guyz! it's so weird (to me) that there are lots of Koreans commenting this video. I mean for the past 4 weeks it's all Korean language. I can't understand a thing and the translation doesn't help at all. I am impressed btw. I mean, wow.. there are a lot of Koreans watching these TAEUN vids also and surely one or two percent of them were antis before. As I scrolled down I only see all Korean language. I almost forgot that it's made for global viewers and not just for Koreans.

 

 

It's weird too... From what I understand (my Korean is not good either DX Only know some words from kdrama and hangul from friend) some are hoping they date for real, some are saying it's just a show and we're delusional and they're not dating or smth... Should've asked someone who's good at Korean, because google translate didn't give us the real meaning. But from all Taeun vids I watch in YT, that video has the most Korean comments...or it just my feeling?

But like you said, it's made for global viewers and Koreans are free to comment too.

 

9 hours ago, watermelon2512 said:

There's an insta account complaining about Taeunians.

She is shipping Naeun and Btob Hyunsik and make a fmv on youtube.

She is really upset because many Taeunians gave unpleasant comments under her fmv something like "Taeun is better" and stuff like that.

My fellow Taeunians please respect other shipper just like we want other to let us do what we like to the couple that we shipped.

If other people shipped Naeun or Taemin with other idol just let them be, don't watch the fmv and no need to give discouraging comments under their sns account or under their fmv on youtube.

 

 

 

I hope they will learn to respect others shipping is free in this world and no one should tell others discouraging things like that

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, watermelon2512 said:

I don't know the standart age of so called "older" cause Super Junior's members who are now in their 30s still afraid to revealed that they are in relationship cause they are afraid they will hurt and betrayed their fans. 

 

Which makes me sad actually Heechul said that if he got married, his fans should marry too so he doesn't feel guilty. Probaby because of what happened to Sungmin. But it's true. When an idol is in a relationship, those 'fans' start to make excuses to get others hate the idol. They made excuses to hate on Kai&Krystal and Baekhyun&Taeyeon too.

I don't want Taemin and Naeun to experience the same thing. Idols are humans too, I don't want them to feel guilty if they're dating or getting married. I WILL SUPPORT 100%.

 

59 minutes ago, chantaljaey said:

Taemin: I really like Sia.

My question here: Is Sia that he likes the same Zia as the one who sang one of Cinderella and Four Knights OSTs? That drama where Naeun was also one of the casts (Park Hye Ji).

 

Really? I thought it was Sia Furler lol

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11 hours ago, Angelanyto said:

Not Taeun related

After reading the translation I feel so sad. 

She is thankful of how much live she and her mother have received but please stop tagging her or dmying her as she and her mother aren’t but public figures. She just want to happily share roo photos with everyone. 

Im so sad that why fans are bothering her and her family. 

 

After i I first saw this black photo I thought roo passed away too my god  thank god it isn’t 

 

 

 

 

Fighting Sodam-unnie, Mama Kim and Roo! I didn't know people sent her DMs She's already sad don't make her sadder

 

Sometimes things done with good intentions end up making people hurt or uncomfortable...

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5 hours ago, Angelanyto said:

I have the same thoughts as you.  You know what i'm not impressed about? I hope it's okay for me to express my opinion freely here.  A lot of taeunians tagged shinee official or individual account.  (i'm like "come on guys ....) Is it just myself who is having this opinion or it's common in couple shipping world?  What is shinee or key or onew has to do with our shipping? To be honest, we shouldn't even tag Naeun but since she is the reason we ship i won't comment on this.  

 

I've been in couple shipping for a long time so I have to say I really do not like those couple fans who post for being famous or being recognized.  I hope we aren't making our babies uncomfortable. (but hey, this is just my opinion )

 

And yes, this thread/forum is created for people who support and love Taeun and we should express freely (maybe not toooooo delusional ) 

 

3 hours ago, Stephanie Lim said:

I feel the same way! I see taeun photos tagged with shinee or apink or shineepink lol. It's totally unncessary and puts our couple at risk. I guess people don't think about these things because they are so excited to post about Taeun so they don't think about the consequences of their action. As far as making them feel uncomfortable, I don't think that tagging them personally makes affects them significantly because they must get hundreds of tags and I don't think they go through all of them. I think it's more of these tags create the risk of their respective fans getting upset and posting mean things about the opposite idol. Then I think you're not helping the Taeunian cause of protecting our babies. But I get it... it's hard to control your own feelings when you love them so much and you get excited over any little thing.  

 

I'm with you guys. While I love my fellow shippers, but in instagram they've gone overboard. Hashtags are fine, many people use # taemin # naeun so our posts can get buried but tagging the person is not. I've seen them tagging the Why Not the Dancer or Key's instagram account. The comments are not helping either. I think Naeun read all of it. While I think they wrote it with good intentions, I'm afraid it would make her uncomfortable :(

 

Let's take our excitement somewhere else. Here, for example

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At Taemin's birthday party, he asked fans if he should open an instagram account. Fans said no and when asked why, they said that it because they don't want him to read the hateful comments. Taemin agrees and said he should live only seeing good things 6v6

 

Well, I gotta admit part of me also don't want him to open instagram because of the same reasoning as those K-Shawols BUT then I think, who are we to tell him what he should or should not do. Though he is the "baby" of SHINee, he is a 25 year old adult, he is free to do what he wants and if he wants to open an insta account, I'm not gonna object. On the bright side, if he opens one, it would be easier for him to communicate with us 

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Guys I saw Naeun's IG story! Adidas cake at Taemin's birthday? Ooooohhh 

 

That reminds me...I have Sono Ayako's Ningen no Bunzai (the book Naeun read) and the original text is like this:

 

「距離をとる」ことは人生の知恵

距離というものは、どれほど偉大な意味を持つことか。離れていさえすれば、私たちは大抵なことから深く傷つけられることはない。これは手品師の手品みたいに素晴らしい解決策だ。そしてまた私たちには、いや、少なくとも私には、遠ざかって離れていれば、年月と共に、その人のことはよく思われてくるという錯覚の増殖がある。

 

"Taking a distance" is life's wisdom

How great the meaning of distance has. By being separated, we cannot be hurt deeply from ordinary things. This is a wonderful solution like a magic trick by a magician. And then to us, no, at least to me, by being distantly separated, within years, there is a growing hallucination that I'm often thinking of that person.

 

(Note: I'm not sure what the exact translation of the last sentence, but if someone here who is more proficient in Japanese, feel free to correct me as I'm still learning ^^)

 

And the Korean translation is this:

People do not know how great the meaning of distance is. We are not hurt when we are away This is a tremendous magic and a great solution at the same time. I do not know if other people are like me, but in my case a few moments away I wonder whether the bad thoughts and emotions that I had with him over the years are gone and I rather miss him. (credits to teameans on ig)

 

 

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HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE PRECIOUS MAKNAE TAEMIN! 

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Thanks for the warm welcoming guys  A few hours to go until our precious baby's birthday. I hope he will have great day with the fans or with his loved ones 

 

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@pastelcheeks About animanga... I'll just DM you on that 

 

Also, Naeun's IG post about that quote from a book...I found the translation of the Korean ver. and the Japanese one are different...But I'll talk to you guys about it later because I'm gonna rest now 

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Hello guys! I've been lurking this thread shamelessly for a while. Just want tot share how I got into this lovely couple. I love SHINee from 2011 but because of bad internet condition then, I didn't follow any of SHINee's reality shows and rarely watch their MVs. I do know WGM tho, because of many idols in that program. Then I read that Taemin is going to be on that program with Apink Naeun. I do know of Apink and Naeun, I like their songs, I like Naeun, so I have no problems with them being paired up. But late 2013 to 2014, I was really focused on anime/manga (being a multifandom is hard XD) so I wasn't that active in the kpop world since then. I just watched some kdramas and move on with my animanga.

 

December 2017, that tragic incident. I was hit really hard, I avoided anything related to Jonghyun and SHINee. I love them, but those were the hard times. I started opening up again when it was almost their 10th anniversary. I watched Good Evening and fell in love again with my boys. I decided to move on and keep supporting them. I fell in love with Lee Taemin all over again and he is my bias now, but my love for all of them is just getting bigger. I decide to redeem myself for the lost times by watching their MVs, even Jonghyun & Taemin's solos. I started watching their variety shows too! Then I started to watch WGM, and from the very first episode, I FELL IN LOVE WITH THEM. THEY ARE SO CUTE! And realistic. Because lol you are paired with someone you're not close to, of course you'd feel shy and awkward.

 

I love how their relationship grows from awkward to being comfortable with each other. Also, that was the first time I see two idols with so much similarities. I believe they are fated. I started to believe that they're real. Eyes don't lie.Also the little hints they throw? It's so obvious I don't know if I'm delusional or not. But I didn't know if there are people who loves them nowadays. I checked YT and so many fanvids of them and that made me happy. I checked twitter and there are still immature Shawols that are still angry with WGM and Naeun, but their reasonings don't make sense. I was sad but then I found this forum! It's like a sanctuary to me, I found you guys, I really wanted to talk about our OTP together, so I made an account here but I was shy lol and later I overcome my shyness and decided to write this. I will be active on this forum as much as I can! Nice to meet you all!

 

(Sorry for my bad english >< I also suck at explaining hsshs)