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Dongmae is now a certified pervert with a fetish on Aeshin's skirt.
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"Gun, glory and sad ending"
I think those ominous three words will be pretty much how the story progresses. I think Eugene and Aeshin will fight against the Japanese as a common enemy, fall in love in the process, but will ultimately find themselves on opposite sides and one will kill the other. Or another person from one side will kill one of them.
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This whole affair with Goo Dongmae is really stupid. It's been already established in the story that he is the leader of the Black Dragon Society.
Funny English scenes ft. Go Aeshin in episode 4.
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23 hours ago, bedifferent said:
Going to make an attempt to answer. People, please correct me if I'm wrong
1) No. Dong Mae's childhood has not been shown or is his first time meeting Ae Shin, also as a child I believe. There were images of the two as children in Park Hyo Shin's MV. She of Aegisshi blood and he's a baekjeong's son. I'm curious on how they ever met. Ae Shin is leaps ahead of her time as a modern woman who is frustrated with gender inequality. Right now, she's focusing on fighting for her country from the outsiders. I hope we get to see Ae Shin finding out more about the prejudices toward the different clases/people in Joseon, in the class divide that she is a part of.
2) You mean the American businessman that came to buy pottery? He's not fluent in the language. He even asked Yoo-jin to teach him. You do raise a good question regarding Wan Ik. How did a poor butcher's son comes to be a trusted interpreter. It does highlight how ill prepared the Americans are on this mission. If you come in hope of establishing some diplomacy, I think you would want to bring your best resources.
3) Yes, same King Gojong who is older. In episode 1, he was underaged so the regent was in charge until he becomes an adult. At this point in the drama, I think he has returned after the exile and has declared himself the first Emperor of Korea. @solarisk could you help us out regarding this. I know the drama skipped over the Sino-Japanese war that you mentioned.
@solarisk Thanks for the above post. Think we will eventually see the Russo-Japanese war in this drama later on.
Do you have any guess why the title is "Mr Sunshine"? Is this going to be the code name for Eugene as he becomes a freedom fighter? Interesting that he can speak Japanese too.
Yes, it's Gojong. The regent in charge was the staunch isolationist Heungseon Daewongun. During the time skip, Heungseon gets outed by Gojong's wife, Empress Myeongseong, and the empress herself gets assassinated by the Japanese because she sided with the Russians. This incident traumatized the whole nation, not to mention Gojong himself. There's a brief mention of this when Ae Shin's grandfather chastizes her as a warning that women shouldn't get into politics. This is an MV about Empress Myeongseong:
There's a good Korean musical about her too. So the drama is missing a very significant historical character along with the Sino-Japanese War. Basically, the historical setting was like this:
Heungseon Daewongun - Confucianist. Usurper. Allies with China.
Empress Myeongseong - An empress trying to get into politics. Allies with Russia.
Emperor Gojong - Wrong place at the wrong time. Tragic.
No idea about the name "Mr. Sunshine".
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On 7/9/2018 at 8:30 AM, bedifferent said:
Thank you so much! Appreciate it.
Netflix translation.
Guy A: It sounds like to American and Spanish are close to war
Guy B: The Americans?
Guy A: Yes.
Guy B: What is that? A tin can?
Guy A (looks incredulous at B): What do you think Spain is, then?
Guy B: Is it someone you know?
Guy A: Sigh.
How are you liking it so far? The first two episodes?
Also, I missed this at first view. Is there some time jumps, splicing of events, in episode 2? AS's skills/athleticism implied some time or years have passed. Also, she would need intel to know where Logan Taylor is, implying this guy who met him at the Hotel Glory (or someone at the hotel, Kudo Hina?) and the geisha maybe working with the freedom fighters. AS seems to be working with a team now. She's much more poised than teenage we first met at the beginning of episode 2. All suggest we may have some fast forwarding in timeline.
On thing that struck me in the battle scenes is the disadvantages in regard to weapons/guns between Joseon/Korea vs. the Westerners. AS's gun vs those use by Eugene in the Spanish American war or the naval fleet armory in episode 1. The technology difference is something essential and has to be considered in leveling the power field for Joseon. Opening its door has its Pandora box but furthering education and commerce/trading helps advance its technology to match the Western world. This can bring benefits to the country.
To be honest, I'm not much of a k-drama fan. I was just surfing through the channels to pick up some news stories, then I saw a steam ship in Joseon. So I was like, WTF? I gave it a few seconds more of my time to pick it up later to see if its synopsis is any good. The synopsis seemed interesting, and watching the last two episodes, I guess you can say I'm hooked.
They were outgunned and less experienced. To think of it, a bunch of American marines charged the fort, and the Joseon defender only managed to kill one and wound a few. That's inexperience, not technology. Also, the casualties on Joseon's side was particularly high because they were determined to fight to the death. This resilience ultimately drove the Americans away and the commander of the American expedition was reprimanded for not bringing any results. So for the Americans, it was a bitter victory.
At the time the Confucians thought they were living in the center of the world and it's better off to not interact with barbarians. They were more interested in consolidating power in internal power struggles rather than dealing with the outside world that was rapidly changing. This is best portrayed when the regent told the king that America is a tribal nation founded by Washington through a deal with the British, and that they're nothing but barbarians to be ignored. It's these isolationism and some degree of idiocy that are to blame for the downfall of Korea and China. In Japan's case, its internal power struggle actually lead to the opening of trade and it became one of the most powerful nations in its time. At this point in the story, they already beat China, and later in the story, we'll probably see Japan beating Russia.
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3 hours ago, bedifferent said:
Me too, just finished watching. Let me just start by saying the tone of the story shifted dramatically for me going from E1 to E2. I was expected for it to stay a little more serious until we get all characters on board but should have guessed it from the slave hunters' dialogues at the end of E1. We get funnies inserted in a lot of places in E2, deliberately for what I am not sure... it threw me off. I think I am ok with the supporting characters lighten up the story with their little situational comedies, English wordplays (Spanish vs. Spam the thing in the tin can?), lost in translations bit... that I think is fine. I just feel for the actors and actresses who looked to me out of character saying some of the KES-signature lines. Felt they are good when left alone to do their own things so I am wishing for more quiet moments without the dramatic being in your face. I remember reading that LBH has to learn to say those lines cuz he is not used to acting out this way. But yeah, it maybe just me.
4Definitely, something got lost in translation. Back then in Korean, America was called Mi-ri-gyun and Spain was called Seo-ban-ah. Also in Korean, gyun sounds like dog and ah sounds like kid. So the guy mistakes gyun for dog and ah for kid, so he thinks America is Miri-dog and Spain is Seoban-kid. So this is what they really say:
Guy A: "Mirigyun(America) and Seobanah(Spain) seem to be going to war".
Guy B: "Miri-dog. What kind of dog is it? A fighting dog?"
Guy A: "Sigh. Then what is Seobanah(Spain)?"
Guy B: "Some kid you know?"
Guy A: "Sigh."
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17 minutes ago, scarletlover1 said:
@solarisk I haven't watched ep 2 yet but will later. Now I believed they would make Ae Shin between 20s to 30. She can't be no older than 30. From the first episode and because of LBH, Eugene would have to be 30s to 40s. But I see on twitter that Ae Shin is 19, Eugene is 33 and Dong Mae is older than Eugene? What kinda sense does that make? Why would Yoo Yeon Seok's character be older than LBH's character when it's opposite in real life? Just looking at the two of them, you can clearly tell who is older. I've lost count to how many times I've seen this in Asian dramas... But then again, when I've seen these types of situations, I don't even think the actors/actresses wouldn't even be that much older than their character. But WWSK has a bit of a big age gap with second male lead and his character.
Aeshin's character introduction specifically says that she is 29 years old. She's 20 at the beginning of episode 2 but by the time she and Eugene cross paths, she is 29 years old. It also says she didn't marry earlier because of Heesung. Heesung is Aeshin's fiance, but he's away in Japan as of this moment.
http://program.tving.com/tvn/mrsunshine/3/Contents/Html?h_seq=2
http://program.tving.com/tvn/mrsunshine/3/Contents/Html?h_seq=5
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@bedifferent
QuoteI wiki'ed the background to the US Korean expedition Shinmiyangyo for comparison and to further understanding of the drama background. Found it is fairly accurate in trying to grasp the event leading to the battles of Ganghwa fort.
The story after the battles of Ganghwa fort becomes strange though. They are conveniently missing a very significant war, the Sino-Japanese war. You can see the Independent newspaper in episode 1 and the Independence Gate in episode 2. Guess what "independence" means? It means Korean independence from China, a result of the Sino-Japanese War. And American military presence in this historical period? Did not happen.
@happyboy
Quoteas it turns out, the Koreans did not have gold, as the Chinese mercenaries had promised, and Korea was too poor and too far to exploit (even poorer than the Central American states much nearer to us) so shortly after Shinmiyangyo the US focused its attentions entirely back on Japan and forgot about the Koreans. this is similar to after the Korean War when the US bombed 98% of the country into the stone age and then left and forgot about Korea while kids were walking around Seoul in the 60s barefoot and the 80% of the Korean population had worms and went hungry.
1And what, you'd prefer Korea under communist rule? That the UN not have intervened when North Korea, with USSR weapons, invaded South Korea? 98% of the country in the stone age? What, Jeollado and Gyungsangdo only make up 2% of the country? The US left and forgot about Korea after the Korean War? Do you know what USFK stands for?
@scarletlover1
QuoteLook if there's going to be any romance between LBH and AS, I'm not feeling it. KTR looks young enough to be his daughter! Look at the two of them standing next to each other. On chart, it doesn't imply any romance and I'm hoping it stays that way. It shows romance between her, Dong Mae and Hee Sung. That's hinting a love triangle between those three so please let it be that way because as much as I'm tired of love triangles, I rather have this than Ae Shin and Eugene together.
Yeah, the actors themselves are 20 years apart, although the characters are about 10 years apart. Aeshin is 29 years old at the end of episode 2, so that'd make Eugene Choi in his late 30s or early 40s. Not sure if romance will be happening between them, but I do think they'll develop some kind of a hate-love sort of relationship. Not happening for Heesung and Dongmae.
@122am
QuoteSome parts of the war scenes also made me feel like the writer / project is trying to sell me Korean nationalism sentiment while portraying Japan as the 'enemy state'... while being neutral to USA (who also did attack Korea).
This is when Japan takes over and colonizes Korea, so you'll see a lot more of Japan being the 'enemy state'.
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[Drama 2018] Mr. Sunshine, 미스터 션샤인 - Winner of Critics’ Choice Award for Drama category
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AG: I must save her. Because one day, I can become like her.