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so happy with them. and JK was clever to hide his sweetness and obvious hint behind the game ...we know he can always say it just for win a money.. but well who will go overboard like that just to win a money in a reality tv show? 

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If we want to analyze what happen between SA in real life..i think we must consider SJH and KJK personality in real life. From what I follow about them in RM, fan meeting, MUD and another show which they are appear. Here is what I thought:

1.KJK 

from what i know and see, KJK is a very loyal man, both to his friends and girlfriend ( if he really had a GF). To imagine he play along some fake LL when he knows or maybe even unsure that SJH have a real boyfriend, is really not KJK style at all. And on top of it, KJK himself stated many time after X-Man ,that he really hate /dont fancy doing Fake LL.

And also he would hurt his real GF's feeling (who would risk that only for fake LL).

If SJH have a BF it would be an awkward situation between him and SJH's BF and KJK would not risk that ( Remember in old times when SJH announce publicly that she has a BF, KJK would back down from any skinship try to not create rumour. If it happen now, sure KJK would done the same)

2. SJH 

She is after same like KJK. 

She is not the one who can mix real life and reel life easily. If she has a BF (not KJK) and she doing a fake LL she would tone down her interaction with her LL partner (like MC used to do when JH have a real BF), cause she must be careful about her BF feeling. And the same logic if KJK have GF (not SJH), SJH would respect their relationship and the GF feeling by not playing along some LL.

 

Now we looking to a couple of Episode where member teasing them about dating. Its a big deal if they both have a real BF and GF. They would not want to play along, and will showing to other member that they are hate the LL situation.

So What really happen in those episode, they are smiling, laughing ,giggling, and sometime just play along and not give any reaction. It is a reaction you give if you are single , and you know each other is single too, and /OR they are dating to each other /atleast interesting with each other. 

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On 2/9/2019 at 12:02 AM, elzy said:

 

Yeah, i'm totally agree with you, years ago, we hardly see their sweet moments. We only got them from all 'hawk-eye' fans (thanks to everyone who have this skill, lol), the fact that it was not shown or mentioned to public made us feel it was way too sweet sometimes, but now, we have a completely different story. But, hey, we still got those hidden sweet moments too, right? (when JH hold JK arms when watching the roulette spun, when JK tap JH back in latest ep when she tried to stand up, etc, etc.) I'm sure we can still got those hidden sweet moments, anyhow 

 

As a fan, me too gladly accept everything they would show us, even after this weekend, if they decide to end their "loveline", by the fact they want to use the sbs card alone, compete against each other, there is a possibility that they ended their "loveline" too, I wouldn't disappoint either. I've prepared myself for everything . It was not their first time to get teased anyway (although, not too insistent, previously) So... I don't see it as a bad thing. Then, let's see what the future episode may bring.

 

i guess it's also mainly depend on Jaesuk and maybe HH.. as we know Jaesuk always looking after any interaction of member..on how much he teased them, if he pretend like it never happen, and just skip any SA moment  , i guess the PD also would not make it into something romantic.. also another member who often bravely teased spartace is HH. All other member in my eyes only following what Jaesuk and HH start 

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31 minutes ago, heynell said:

Anyway, seeing them in PJ was so interesting because because their interaction was sooo different from how they interact in RM that even the other girls noticed something between them. I really wish to see them in other variety or talk shows together.

Right, maybe because it's all girls in PJF, make JH girly side shine more, than in RM where she always wear a hat and look boyish (remember what KJK mom said about it in MUD).

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2 hours ago, mn0096 said:

 

It’s always a possibility, but there are easier ways to get rid of the rumors with SJH. Less damaging for SJH, too. Would KJK agree to an intense LL with SJH, with the endgame to ruthelessly and decisively deny being with her? Why go through something as complicated as that, only to say no? Rumors are only rumors. They’ve never been an official LL on RM, not like MC where years after KG left, fans are still bothered. KJK could have simply ignored everything, as he’s always done, made sure to stay far away from all women including SJH (as he’s always publicly done), announce with another woman, and get married. But, he gets into another high profile loveline right after the 2018 one. Could it be because of LKS’s news and its effects on ratings? Again, maybe, but that’s hard to believe, too. 

 

 

Totally agree.

I too believe that KJK is a very considerate man, from what I see in RM, MUD, BP, he is always careful when it comes to loveline thing, or even just linking with Girls espescially if the woman is a public figure.

So if the loveline is only for a show then JK is lying to himself about his word that he dont want to involved in any LL anymore.

And it does not make sense too if he make JH involved in this situation. As we know JH is an actress that her career can easily ruin if she have a LL espescialy fake LL , cause she already experience the aftermath with MC LL before. And it's certainly not good for JH to have 2 LL in 1 same show. I believe JK also consider this thing.

That's way, if this is a fake LL it is a very risky move both for JK and for JH, cause their image can be harmed. And we know JK is very careful man in the way he decide things. 

In my opinion JK willing to do this LL because there is something going on with JK and JH in real life. and the other member is given the greenlight to fuel this LL make it obvious that they know something we dont

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recently i am so angry if people in IG said that RM pushed JK-JH loveline too hard and loveline not natural at all. i mean we all know SA was always like that in last 8 years, it just not in spotlight like now. those people who said that i believe never notice SA subtle interaction on/off the RM.

If anyone ever questioned SA feeling to each other, i suggest them to look the photo where SA hug in Australia Eps (bts photo from fans, i bet you guys know) 

It's my favorite SA moment,cause it was off the record ,in an open public area with a lot of people watching them. Like, wth you hug your male coworker passionately just because you met them after not seeing each other (yes i see it as passionate hug from JH,based on the pict) in front many people, if  if there is nothing going on between them. I see it as the same hug as the one we see in recent eps when SA win the roulette. on top of that the hug in Australia was never shown by PD, so we know no one pushed them to act like that.  It show how natural their interaction is.

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i think about JH story there are 3 option: 1. It was his ex bf, but somehow JK already know the story so he bit more relaxed. 2. It is  his current BF that is JK, cause again JK seems so much relaxed, for someone who hear a story JH never told , not that curious as we know some episode before whenever there is a story about JH revealed and JK didn't know, he become a bit more chatty and question everything like he was jealous and annoyed by it . 3. maybe JH just make up the story..i mean she did get surprise but about the in the morning thing,maybe she didn't know how to keep the story inline and keep it interesting...so she maybe just pull some prank (i know this is a very least chances,but who knows the truth right). 

 

1 think a bit strange to me . do you guys watch MUD ? what you guys opinion about HJY mother join the show?i mean the addition of new mother a bit strange. I mean before it was 4 mothers. and if you following MUD, Tony Mom have less screentime than others.why would add some more Mother and make it 5 ?. And as we know HJY was coming to the show because of JK few episode with her. and isnt it a bit risky to put 2 mothers, JK and HJY mothers together, if there is a posibility JK and HJY together? what if they decide to get married? Isnt it a big loss to lost 2 mother in the same time?. I guess HJY mother join the show is a preparation if 1 personel of MUD ended up get married this year. An if you watch, only JK and Tony have a big possibility to get married...cause for Tony he hardly to be seen in MUD from last year. As for JK , in his part, JK look just he tried to help Jung Nam, not really focusing about him in last couple of episode as i remember. Its like he maybe would end his participant in MUD this year...but he make it step by step,not suddenly. As he try to focusing more about his friend life (Jung Nam), and with the addition of HJY into the show. So if he quit MUD, it would still 4 mothers like before.

what do you guys think? I know HJY mother only appear in two episode, and we need to follow it a few more months, maybe 3-4 months to know the real intention, or maybe if there is an announcement from JK. That just my twocents

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Somehow the coincidence felt like a fate, KJK n SJH pick a card with the longest n 2nd longest sentence , really meant to be together until the end (if you not count the rules to double up KJK sentence ). And somehow  i get the vibe from SJH's face she getting jealous or little bit diappointed at first when KJK give the tofu to JSM rather than her. And notice how JSM quickly look to SJH when receiving tofu from KJK, like she was surprised and dont know how to react in front of SJH. Maybe she thinks KJK will give it to SJH. And YJS seems say something to JH while KJK hug JSM, maybe YJS tried to explain KJK reason, and SJH's reaction like "OK, OK i know" 

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4 hours ago, linzer03 said:

 

Just a thought to add to this. I think when we look at KJK and his brother's relationship in this episode, I think we have to remember that KJK's brother is not a celeb. He isn't used to variety, and he probably started this episode with the information that he had to act like SJH (who he probably knows well in real life) is a stranger. So he's out of his element, surrounded by cameras, and having to remember that his future sis-in-law is a stranger. I'd probably be pretty quiet on camera too. KJK has also been trying to bring back his commander character recently. When he met his mom on the show, KJK was more his real life self than a variety character, but here, when they're playing games, I think KJK was more in commander mode. KJK's character in RM is probably pretty jarring for someone who knows him in real life to encounter on the show - especially someone who has little variety experience. So I could see how KJK's brother might be pretty uncomfortable throughout the episode and uncertain as to how he should act around KJK.

i feel that too, since Jong Myung is not usual to act in front of camera, i think he is abit careful to act around JK as maybe he dont want to make a mistake that can affect JK in the show, so Jong Myung a bit quite and a passive, as toward JH, i dont know if Jong Myung is close enough with her in real life, i think he tried to put JH as another colleague like other members and guest was a safe move.

1 hour ago, mn0096 said:

You made a lot of sense. Thanks for putting things in perspective. I just brought up the subject originally, because I always wondered about it. I'm quoting the following as posted by @linzer03, as well, since the analysis is on point like yours. Thanks to both of you.  

 

 I agree. 

its alright, and sorry as i dont tag you as i dont know how to do it, cheerss

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On 7/31/2017 at 10:59 AM, jihyo658 said:

I haven't seen anyone post a video of the pushing game (sorry I can't remember the name) so of course, I decide to make a gif heavy post about it lol 

so while everyone played the game these two looked busy playing footsie lol I assume they knew to play it smart and wait till they were attacked but that still doesn't explain the need to touch each other

of course, jong kook is the first one to tease ji hyo and start really play fighting but look at those smiles

worried JH in the back following JK's every move 

 

i never notice this playful act between them, thanks for the gif, they look cute teasing each other. 

Kim Jong Myun and Wook Min and CSM i thing doing just fine, we cant really say they are lack of variety skill cause we need to remember they are simply not entertainer, they are just ordinary people trying to play the game. And playing games for variety show is not as easy as it may looks on the screen. As CSM maybe just start his career as an artist, the other guest were all experienced entertainer so is not that weird if they are look more funny and have more screentime than ordinary people like Jong Myun and Wook Min. Jong Myun maybe has appeared several times on Running Man, but only for talking and never for playing games.

about someone who says based on JK upset reaction when his brother failed to get good result when throwing the shoes, that his brother look scared and it look different to  the claimed from JK mother and his brother that once said JK in home like a daughter. I think we need to remember that JK have a character in Variety world that is strong, competitive and cant stand with bad result....and this character he need to play once the camera on roll. So its possible that although he look scary and act tough on variety show, he still act like a daughter as her mother and his brother claimed. 

and i notice that in this episode JK try not to biased toward SJH in a game so he not choose her for his team, rather he choose Se Chan and Son Na Eun. And if you all noticed, JK has a habit to always play Rock first when it come to Rock paper and scissor game. You may noticed this in several previous episodes when they are play Rock paper scissor game to pass the ball (throw chair pool game). Then in this episode when playing with Wook Min ofcourse first he started with Rock, he win. then for the second and third game, i think he tried to lose to Wook Min so WM can have a chance to choose team first (we know how JK always try to accomodate every guest in the game to make it fair). He tried to be predictable in 2nd chance and play rock again to make it easy to Wook Min to win, (cause normally someone will assume to better play paper to avoid losing again)...but he surprised that Wook Min still playing scissor in 2nd chance, despite he tried to be predictable with Rock, and even he give Wook Min some hint with saying "Wook Min is stubborn"..For me JK hinting Wook Min to change his choice in 3rd chance...but still Wook Min i think didnt get the message from JK. And JK just make fun of it by saying he is stubborn.

The point is I think JK didnt really want to always have an opportunity to choose a team first, as it burden him (cause his character that always aim to win, just make sense for viewer to see JK choosing strong team member, if he choose JH, viewer would think its weird). Cause if Wook Min can choose first maybe JK can choose JH to his team with an excuse that he dont have a choice but to choose her. So when he keep winning an opportunity to choose first he make an excuse that he need tall and heavy figure for his team and with that indirectly exclude JH for his team (as we see JH and her brother is not preferable for this kind of game, men-men couple would be more preferable)

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 I agree ...in second song JH seems dont know how to act, uncomfortable when jumps and singing...even when Haha sing with her

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did you guys noticed when JS roll the dice in the first round, they/PDs use 2 different clip of YJS rolled the dice? cause in first  moment JS throw the dice we can see JH holding the red dice standing in the center beside JS. and JK standing beside JH but after that they shown the clip where JK standing in JH position before (beside JS) and suddenly JH stand in far side of her team. they/PD switch between this 2 clip. And we can see again their different clip in moment the dice shown the number. we can clearly see when the dice was thrown to air, JH in the center based on her shoes...and when the dice landed suddenly JH standing in far side then JK standing in the center (JH previous position). 

As far as i concerned that they can rigged the dice rolling until they can find the result they want, this editing is so rough and carelessly done by PDs. it seems like they want make this segment short and make black team won so the part when JH choose to stop can be shown by them.

the episode it self was funny but not that interesting, only because JH taken care of JK this is worth watching. And it feel weird when they show JS big plan and make it highlight with Yoomes Bond theme song but in the end JS failed to make SA get punishment.....cause as i remember in many old episode whenever the PD's highlight one of member plan with their unique theme song, their action always success. Maybe because the PD itself was different person, that they use the highlight and unique theme song with different intention.

 

About netizen talking bad about JH and JK i dont really care about it, cause netizen can be overreacting and childish over something

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yes he talk to that girl, but to use it as approve that she is his girlfriend seems a bit off, he can be nice to her even if she just a fans or some random citizen that just asking a question

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17 hours ago, julia147 said:

welcome and thank for the information, i didnt know that. but if JH did atleast once refuse to do it then SA wasnt always went along with "MC is belong to each other".

It remind me of the topic we discussed the other day, that because SA went along with it so MC shippers believed it is true relationship

you're welcome, i'm sorry i couldnt find that footage again in tube as it was so long time ago. at least thats what witnesses said. i remember it cause that the first time i know monday couple thing is not that serious thing

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5 hours ago, linzer03 said:

Welcome! We always love new posters here! And wow, you've been an RM fan since 2011/2012? That's impressive! I hope you continue to share your thoughts on this forum!

thankyou,  i remember watch RM episode in the class break with all my class mate and it was during subject that i learn in 2011 2012 and yeah maybe i already watch every episode for more than 5 times, but sadly i dont really have an hawk eye like you guys  and just enjoy the show without noticing any SA secret moment, maybe bcause i'm more  RM fans first, so not focus too much to JH JK. Mostly i just feel daebak reading everyone thought here, as it sometime makes sense to me, its not over delu or somethink

5 hours ago, mn0096 said:

Welcome to the forum. And thanks for sharing your thoughts. Re: the quote above, I remember the aired scene and how embarrassed she was, but wasn't aware of the BTS discussions and how the other members tried to talk to the PDs. This was also a scene where KJK was absent, if I recall correctly. 

 

I'm a diehard shipper, but I have my occasional periods of doubt, too. But, you're right, we catch quite a bit of BTS or off to the side shots of SA that make us suspicious, but it's moments like this week's secret coffee drinking moment that convince us there's really something going on between SA. Pair this with the members' reaction (or non-reaction) and things get even more convincing. Still, until they announce, we always add a disclaimer.

PS. One other moment that, for me, was very convincing -- after the infamous pillow fight. He's always so careful with everything, but during that scene, because of what he just did to her, I think he just felt so apologietic that he lost control and bear-hugged then nuzzled her. It was so unexpected from him that she turned shy. Very telling, indeed. 

thank you, and the BTS it self i know from that fancam video as he/her write an explanation in it.

sharing straws maybe not that strange even between male-female friends for me, but the reason why it is suspicious were why she need to do it sneakly, why JK has to put the coffee behind his back so camera wont shoot it, why she drink it that time i mean she can do it before they go out from court room, not in a hall that obviously the camera will shoot everyone including her. thats what it makes suspicious i think.

that pillow fight ofcourse cute ! and seeing it for the first time, i was like "get married already"  i once notice why SA rarely in 1 teams, and only after reading everyone post in this forum i understand RM more. and watch The Producer drama help me to know better how K-variety show work, at least it gives us a bigger picture how RM work and how to handle member

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hai everyone ! I'm a silent reader in this forum maybe almost 1 or 2 years although its not routine to visit here. and i can say i find it fun to read all your opinion and hawk eye screenshot.

I've been watching RM since 2011/2012, when accidentally i found FO and RM file episode 1-3 or 5 when i borrow my friend's HDD, first episode i watched when shin bong sun guest in some theme park episode. i find it interesting to watch then i decided to watch again from episode 1. since then i know some of friends who like RM too, i used to copy from them then after that  i start to download it and make a collection for myself until now.  I watch RM almost everyday since then until now, sometimes just watch it randomly, or start from 1st episode. first its been my weekend routine, now its my daily routine  it brings so much laughter and became my stress reliever and killing time activity. its kind a hobby i like. When they announce RM would stop i was very sad, it just like you lost your fav.thing. When they said JK and JH would leave the show i'm shock and sad but at the same time i thought the time has come and its good so they can reveal their relationship and finally get married 

The thing is, no matter how many times i watch all RM episode, i'm always forget the detail in it, like who's the winner, who' get punishment , who is the thieves etc, so i guess thats why i can watch it so many times and still find it funny and interesting. 

About SA, I like KJK and SJH since the start cause i find them handsome and pretty, they look good together. but i dont really aware of shipping or anything since this is one of the first  Kshow i watch ( i watch FO also in early years i found RM). I like kdrama since long before i know RM, cause my sister or mom like to watch some of kdrama. but after that i dont really into this kpop thing. Just until i know RM i start to know kpop,girlband, and other k-var show. Back to SA, i find it their first combination episode was JJang and a very good episode and i start to think they should probably team up a lot more. I dont really remember how i first notice about SA as a thing, maybe 2 years  ago or so, when i type KJK and SJH name together to get to know any relation between them, cause i dont really into MC thing, it kinda boring, and not look good together . I guess i watch some random SA video or seeing SA picture. And it feel like they are really close. After seeing some hawk eye moment between them, i start to watch from 1st episode to see what i'm missing and how can i not notice it before. Since then i always have this feeling that they are close, but too close as a colleague and friend, certainly they have feeling for each other. First surely it was JH to JK. remember when JK try to raise JH heartbeat in train, even before i know this shipping i can feel JH was hapy JK try to be her friend. And long after that it is JK who gradually become closer to JH.

About dating or not its not neccesary they have too. You dont have to in certain official relationship status to love someone. Cause status often burden us. As long as they know each other feeling, thats what important.

And after seeing BTS of some episode, fancam  and offcam , i can see MC thing really make JH uncomfortable (once i found BTS about JH shouting ''i want you KG'' in airport, and some fans who witness it said JH refuse to do it and JS also other member try to talk to PD  for maybe 10 min or more, so that JH didnt have to do it, as it too much cross the line). thats when i know her smile in RM not always honest but sometimes it forced to. it must be hard for all member to always act like that. even when they know sometimes its too much.

This last episode with their secret coffee moment and some awkward situation from members when SM tongue slip, just make me even more convince that they are together.