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Yeah it was a really beautiful ending. Fans are sad maybe because we all liked this drama so much and thought about what will happen in the end, we all imagined different scenarios that we wanted to see but at the end they gave us something different.
I didn't like ep 19 and how they approached that black dragon there and I told my friends that they ruined my favorite drama but fortunately they saved it.
And about the writers I liked how creative they were that almost no one could predict this ending.
It was not a sad or open ending they just didn't show what we already know that will happen. Personally i don't need to see them kiss n times to enjoy their love story so I'm okay with their last farewell but I totally can understand why people wanted to see another kiss.
I think when everyone calm down lot of angry fans will see it was not as bad that they thought at first. Of course still there will be some who won't like this ending even then but I'm sure some will change their minds.
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47 minutes ago, maria_m2me said:
Same with me... I still waiting for that epiloge.. But maybe we will have that happy ending in real life. Yeah life must goes on, and SOG still on his journey and now his journey is to found his the one and only bride. As I know for this Hwayugi, the reincarnation route needs time, remember Mawang case. The last Princess Iron Fan's reincairnation as mortal around collonial times, when Japan came to South Korea right? What time was that? Around 1910 to 1949 right? And then Mawang meet again in 2017/2018? So need times right? That's why to let SOG wait that long, I think that's possible for him. Plus SOG himself still use his GGG in his hands... *honestly confused about this GGG, doesn't he burn that GGG in front of JSM's souls?*
He didn't have GGG .It was her secretary POV.
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It seems most of the fans didn't like this ending but I liked it. It was a happy ending for me , we know he will bring her back and makes her immortal .
To be honest my girl friend is a gumiho had a really lame happy ending and I was afraid to see something like that again so I preferred a sad ending more than something like that but this one was much better .
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Based on this interview i think LSG didn't like the ending as well. So I won't have high hopes for today's ep.
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4 hours ago, carolinedl said:
I know I am going to say sthg very unpopular here (don't hit me please...); but not a huge fan of OYS... She is doing ok but she lacks facial expressions. I know it's due to her role, but for me it's a plainly physical thing, like she seems to have a hard time moving her muscles in her face... Makes sense? She seems a bit static. She acts well but it falls a bit short for me because she does not use her face enough...
I liked her in previous dramas and I still like her but agree that in ep 12 i also felt she should use her face to show emotions more. Especially in that scene when OG was in pain and she was worried. I felt something was off in that scene.
But I think it's normal since she is acting with amazing actors like CSW and LSG and people will compare them no matter what .it would happen for any other actress in the same situation and I'm sure her skills will improve so much while doing this drama.for LSG King 2 hearts was a turning point in his acting and I hope the same thing happens for OYS as well.-
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4 minutes ago, haymochi said:
I'm worried for next ep. Will Mawang betray OG?
I think it would be interesting if MW try to use both of them and first betray OG then try to backstab that shaman. It would be so repetitive if it's all OG And MV plan and he do as what they planned before. Remember he once tried to burn that picture in early eps and trap him there forever and it was OG contract with sm that saved him not GGG.
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First of all I should say that I totally enjoyed ep11 and 12 and I think this drama is getting better and better and it has a fresh vibe in it hope they don't ruin this brilliant drama by trying satisfy everyone and make it like majority of korean dramas that becomes predictable for the second half.
What I like about this drama the most is how realistic the characters are. They all have some kind of selfishness in their characters and are different from usual kdrama characters who are so immersed in love.and I really liked how they built their characters and their development.
And about that spellbind that would control OG I think he will act normal and we won't see its affect right away and it will show itself in an important moment when that shaman is in danger.-
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2 hours ago, dubuqueen said:
No, you're definitely not alone. In our culture, the legends of star crossed lovers like Leyla ile Mecun (which is the Turkish version of Romeo and Juliet 'basically') are far more popular and memorable and there is even an instrument that is also known as the companion of heartbroken people which is called 'Saz'.
Sorry for going off topic.
Other than that, I feel like their story will leave a deep impression on us like you said. Someone here said that the show is basically peeling off more and more layers and revealing its complexity episode by episode. I couldn't agree more.
Sorry to ask it here when it's off topic but in he story you mentioned, the original characters are Arabs and the poems are in Persian from nezami .right? Or I mistook it with another story? I ask it since I'm interested in that culture .
And i also agree the more heartbreaking a love story is it will be more memorable and beautiful at the end.
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I just started to watch 1n2d because of yoon shi yoon and catch up with all the eps after he joined in 2 weeks but when i read some of the comment sections i findout he has lot of haters so i was curious to know about what k viewers think about him. Any one here knows about knetz comments ? I know that everyone have their own haters no matter what they do but i want to know what majority thinks about him.
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About SA in 2011 and early 2012 i think they were just friends.before ep 95 i never felt anything romantic between them.and after dating news I think they wouldn't be able to act normal around each other if he really liked her, she started dating someone else and she knew he liked her. That sorry in ep 82 means that in this situation he also is aware that she knew her feelings. And then in the same day that he was so sad because of the news as you guys analyzed, they become friendly again, stand under the same umbrella and the next day tease each other.
It doesn't make sense. You can't solve problems like that, this quick and you can't stand near a crush voluntarily and laugh (he didn't have to stand beside her) when she is dating someone else and it was not that long that you found out about it.
But if there were really something that jk was sad about it and it was related to jh , something else comes to my mind. If they were close friends at that time it's possible that she told him about her CEO and if she said sorry to him maybe he didn't like the idea of dating that man for good reasons(it's possible that he knew him but fans don't know about it) that he told jh but she didn't listen to him.
Honestly i don't feel like they liked each other that much around that time. They could like each other as friends and you can see how it changes after ep 95.
Find someone attractive and like someone as a potential bf /gf are different. You may find someone more handsome or beautiful than your partner but still like your partner more.I watched this ep and i really liked it. But now about that part that was edited out,It was not the first time something in preview was not in actual ep . So i didn't think too much about it.(in this ep they also cut that part hjy challenged the best waist.) Maybe that game was not that interesting so they decided to cut it and use that time for another part instead of using it for just one sentence . Plus LTH compared to APink and HJY is not that popular. Even if i was the pd i would use segments with popular guests more.
Btw I'm glad the rating improved. Also The last time HJY came rating become better. Personally i like her appearance in other shows as well.About that part that haha and JS told jh to stop honestly i expected this. Jh character in rm is like this, she is bad in acting cute and others say they don't want to watch it and scold her. And it's normal for JS to tell couples they don't have time when they are planning to do something. He did it before as well in other eps and we don't know how much time they used to arrange their plans. But I'm glad haha did stop them. While watching it i was really embarrassed. Why both of them and that guest tried something that they can't do well?
For those who were wondering why celebrity couples don't like to be in the same show or don't like to be seen together that much just take a look at our own discussions here lately, when they announce (not sa any couple can feel like this) all of their fans can think like this.
Who wants to be observed all the time in their love life ? And sometimes fans assumptions can make conflicts in their life if they become sensitive about it. Especially when most of those assumptions are based on delusions not facts. I think it's a wise decision that they want to hide their relationship if they are in one when there are footages of them every week and even after an announcement be in pubic eyes less than before as a couple.You guys may don't like what i say but we always need to remind ourselves to don't do things that we didn't like when others did. So please don't read following paragraphs if you think it will make you uncomfortable.
SpoilerHonestly i also like to read other shippers delusions but sometimes i feel our delusions leak out from it's part and comes to our analyses. That's when it feels more like reading a fanfic and Recently i feel analyses here are a bit different and may turn to another direction . If we want to analyze rm eps about a real life relationship then we should consider their real life personality not their characters in rm. Since jh is an actress i didn't see her real self that much and in movie or dramas related promotions and interviews they usually focus on promoting and it's hard to tell are they really think like that or she/he said it because of this movie/drama. But about jk i watched almost every program he was in and his mv makings and interviews , his real personality is different from what we see in rm. And in some aspects the difference is so much . Last week i wanted to write a post about it but i was busy. maybe i should do it this week.
Honestly it makes me sad to think we become that biased like some of those detectives that you saw in other ships before that only some of sa shippers be able to understand what we say and others no matter how neutral they are laugh and say it's just our delusions.
What i like about this forum are your hawk eyes and sharp analyses. Fighting!!Well let me say another thing that upsets me in this ep. sjh had little screen time but in pool game she was so clever in using that useless thing to transfer coins but what caught her fans eyes? Her flirtatious actions with her partner? (Which personally I didn't find flirtatious but it can be difference in cultures. never mind) when fans who claim that like her because of her ace character focus on romantic parts more, do you expect pds to see her more than a Monday gf or give her something to challenge her ace character?
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Well after reading posts here i went and checked it again. I also think she said baby vox. No wonder non of my friends who watched it online didn't mention she said gary name. Even his fans. I don't know how they heard it gary but what she said was not even similar to Gary's name.
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1 minute ago, athoughtcloud1 said:
I can see the nudge, but nothing under the table.Huhu
he slightly pushed her .
i was watching this with my sis and after that we both asked did you see it?
the quality of my gif is low . you can find it in min 50 in this ep.
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http://s9.picofile.com/file/8298851984/animation_gif.mp4.html
I don't know it's working or not. but if it does show the gif it's the moment i mentioned earlier. look at what he did under the table after she nudged him while maintaining that serious face.
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Spoiler5 hours ago, julia147 said:
*Sorry for double post, i accidentally posted a new one instead of quote in the one above*
I think it is hard to not 'come along with it'.
For example: If SA is real now.
1. Maybe they didn't think about this situation that time
2. Maybe they didn't like each other that much that time to break the contract.
3. They can't make sure about their between their relationship and career.
4. The loveline is there, they came to RM fan meeting, they couldnt say "No, MC isn't real, JK/JH is actually in relationship with me"
How can they explain after that? Then, the sibling theory is the best one in result.
I also think that SA wasn't dating that early. I think they only have feeling for each other, but they didn't express their feeling to each other. So they have to come along with with the loveline.
And now, when they are closer to each other, but it isnt the time to announce it.
In the fortune telling ep, JK was said that "He shouldnt think that much about it, just follow his feeling", i think it is what really happened and it make sense to me about their relationship, why they didn't official it if they are really dating.
Thing is complicated, their career can be ruined by just 1 event. they are human after all, They can't plan everything, and they have to consider about other thing, not just relationship.
So it is reasonable to me.
In the other hand, you guy are not wrong, even though i think it's not something to blame them about, because if think if they know what will happen in the future, they wont accept MC from the beginning which is unable for human being to do. Knowing the future and changing the past.
well it will be mostly repeating my other posts.
The question was why some of fans can't give up yet and still sent hate comments for kg when he married or have ridiculous theories now.
my answer was because they sold out this idea that mc was real or it has high possibility to be real when they knew lot of their fans were young and believe it.
I never said why they did a loveline. Of course in this age I know it's a part of their job. But being professional means like how your job shouldn't be affected by your personal life,your job shouldn't affect your personal life as well.
And this is not related to sa and how and when they started dating or how much they love each other oe even how they want to explain it for their fans . They are dating or not , the fact that they were unable to keep mc just as a loveline for the show and that affect their other jobs out of rm won't change.
And lot of things they did couldn't be in the contract. They did it because as celebrities it's not a big deal for them but they knew it is for their fans.
Still i should repeat that i had no problem with what they did. If they were okay to do it who am i to say do it or not. I just didn't watch those parts that i didn't like.
What i said was about those times when they were in other events and they were asked about mc and didn't like it or those fans who were wondering why mc fans can't give up and when mc ended long ago they still don't want to see them with someone else, they can be sad about it but should remember it's consequence of what they did before themselves.I know people can see things under different lights but still it annoys me when I see some in ig act like they didn't want to do none of it and pds forced them . i think it was also their choice not what they are totally forced to do.
I watched this ep and it had some cute moments. that part when jh said I'll kill you and jk told her just say don't come here not something harsh like that was so cute but personally I found that part when she elbowed him even more cute.
and did you guys hear about jk new album? honestly it was obvious even before news. it's been 2 weeks that they are using his songs in rm more than usual.
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12 minutes ago, mn0096 said:
Just so you know, I am a big KJK fan, but I'm not blind to his faults. Still, about your above statement, I do agree with you that most everyone connected to RM has promote and supported MC, KJK foremost among the members. But, that is their job. You had mentioned SJH's WAIL partner and his use of the movie analogy. That's spot on. The RM members followed and sometimes improvised on the script. The viewers watched, and enjoyed the show. There's nothing wrong with what either side is doing. The problem for me is that, sometimes, some viewers can't differentiate between real life and reel life. I hope that makes sense.
And, yes, I do try to see things from MC shippers' view, but honestly I don't think too much about them. When I'm in this forum, my concern is SA not MC. To be clear, no one here hates them. I'm sure you don't, either. Everyone's entitled to their opinion and to join and/support the ship of their choice.
Again, and I sincerely mean this, thank you for your input. I truly appreciate it. I look forward to reading more from you. Have a good night.
I'm also his big fan. high five
I know they were doing their job still there are some fans out there that think jh and jk are victims and sbs is at fault for every thing. they could keep it just a loveline like how they did till 2012 but from 2013 and after fan meetings they went along with i-fans and pretended there is a possibility for mc to be real and at times like that they are really dating. you know how it affected cast dynamic in the show and even their other jobs out of rm. then they saw how fans thought about it but still didn't try to keep it just as a love line and milked their delusion even more. like that poca pic that made lot of mc fans to think mc is real. so what I want to say, i totally support them but fans reactions to them is consequence of what they themselves did before and unlike the firing incidence they are not victims and made this situation themselves. some think they had no power to say NO but I think they could refuse and just give up on what they earned from mc if they really wanted to do it.
I respect how others think about this matter and it was just my two cents and i would be happy to know how others think about this.
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25 minutes ago, staxcope said:
I've seen a lot of spartace fans saying they are real, and here too, sometimes you say 'maybe' but most of the time you speak as if it's already been confirmed. And as I explained, to me that does make them look bad. Honestly, I do not think you can speak ill of the MC fans without seeing what you do too. "So we are free to say what they want and enjoy our ship." So they can too. No? I thought that was exactly what you were criticizing in MC fans.
I do not know what you mean, but I hate hypocritical people ... I did not like it when MC did what you guys said, but now I see another fandam has come to do exactly the same and makes me sad. At least they shipped a couple that ji hyo and gary agreed to create, already knowing the probable consequences, you have created one and even with they saying that they are just like family, you continued with this. which to me is any better than what they do, too. And I often see that you think you are superior, you are arrogant...
thank you. So, do not you think that makes them look bad? Kook agreeing to a blind date, and ji hyo going on that show having a boyfriend? Lying shamelessly? If they are dating, I hope and I will believe if they say it was only recently, if you say the opposite, you will be the future haters, or at least will generate those future haters who will criticize the two for these reasons, and you guys seem be proud of it? I really really really do not understand.
1. we are not responsible of what you think about them.
2 . You just see what you want .i said in my last post that we should put ourselves in their shoes.
3. It's okay as long as they ship their couple in their own fandom but lot of them still come to our fandom and annoy us. You didn't see it or don't want to see?
4. They went to jk personal sns lot of times and told him to tell mc to marry or cursed him because kg left or even because he was close to jh.
5. Can't you difference our theories and one about jh pregnancy or going on a trip for making kids or a tattoo near her butt? I can think how I want about those dirty people.
6. Did you forgot how many times they attacked jk for ridiculous reasons? Go and check their fandom again before coming here.
7. What's wrong with thinking our couple is real in our fandom? Did we force them to marry?
8.we usually warn those who cross boundaries in our fandom in the other side they say nothing or say the same things. And honestly there are not alot who do that in sa fandom.And last thing. Is your problem only with what they said before and how we will think if they announce something one day? Just go and read our previous discussions. We answered it before. Don't make unnecessary fanwar here just because you were curious to come and check and what sa fans think and didn't like it
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24 minutes ago, staxcope said:
Sorry, I don't belong here but I think you guys do exactly the same. You are creating theories that don't make ji hyo and kook look good at all. If you're right, they've lied for a long time that they are like siblings. Ji hyo participated in the we are in love and spoke several times that chen bolin was her luck, also said she didn't want to date a celebrity. Kook had his blind date on running man, and ji hyo even spoke 'fighting' to the girl (If it was already a mess simply because they did it with a non celebrity, imagine if they knew he did it and was dating ji hyo at this time). What you do is also make them look bad, you do not know how to wait for the truth, and your theories are often so delusional that it would be funny if it were not sad. like those richard simmons about ji hyo having a boyfriend but not loving him? Or maybe she did not even had dated him? with all the photos and she confirming... you guys don't listening to yourselves?
dear. we discussed it before in this forum. we say our theories and ship them in our own topic or fan pages. not in other members or rm related forums . and it's our right to write what we want in a shipping forum like this. this is what they made this forum for. we didn't went to kg or others personal sns and curse them or ask them to tell SA to get married like how other shippers did to jk. and didn't try to make them look bad to show our ship is real,again like how they did. and unfortunately there were not a few who did that. and if some SA fans did something similar it's not our responsibility. we try to keep it mature but even if we say our delusion,it's not against rules. so we are free to say what they want and enjoy our ship. anyone who don't like it, it's easy. just don't read our discussions .
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26 minutes ago, mn0096 said:
There are so many crazy theories out there, from broken-hearted Gary marrying someone else because Evil SJH refused him to KJK stealing his brother's girl, but this one is the worst, most desperate, and delusional of all IMO. Whoever believes this has to also believe that KG and SJH are horrible and despicable enough to pull such a stunt on their fans! If SJH is truly married to KG right now, how can she initiate skinship with KJK? How can he allow it? So not only are SJH and KG evil, but also KJK for going along with it? What about the other members? And the PDs? Everyone's in on it? For what reason? Complete and utter trash theory, IMO. And so very, very disrespectful to the people you say you're a fan of.
We're all shippers. I get that sometimes I'm not sane, especially to non-shippers. My siblings listen to me talk about SA, they look at me, and simply shake their heads. But so-called fans of anyone of the members who claim they admire them, but create all sorts of theories that make the members look horrible are not fans. Honestly, I dont' even know what to call fans like that.
If KG does visit RM, I look forward to the reunion, but I don't look forward to so-called fans throwing all sorts of unfounded theories around. If their so-called truths turn out to be false (and that will be the case), these so-called fans will attack. I'm all for free speech, but when your actions hurt other people, you're just pathetic.
We've all said it before: if one day SA turns out to not be true, we'll wish them well, and move on with our own lives. I'm SA biased, but like a few of you already said, I look forward to KG permanently closing out MC for SJH's sake. This poor woman has had to deal with so much crap from crazy fans for far too long.
well i know lot of you guys won't like what I'm going to write but honestly kjk and sjh are at fault for their delusion like other members and sbs . they milked their delusion themselves .Let's say it was a part of their career but they could abandon that money they earned from rm and do something else. I can't remember when it was exactly but jk himself mentioned that before as well that they do MC for money. there all lot of love lines in variety shows that only a few takes it that serious and people usually say this and that look good together but in MC case they did all they could to make it like MC was real then kill it and bring it back again. if sjh and kg were really in a relationships with someone else, it's okay to have a loveline but saying we are just friends and act otherwise like there is really something between them for fan service was their own wrong choice. all of them especially kg,jk,jh and yjs are responsible for how MC fans think . they knew how fans think about them really well and still continued to use their delusion.
this doesn't mean i don't hate how MC fans think and what they say,I do but I think we should put ourselves in their shows to understand how they feel.
a really good example to how end it well was chen bolin. he said in a show that look at this just like a movie and enjoy romantic parts like a movie that you know it's not real. they had a dating show and he said it long time after that but still he did his part to end those delusions ( that was in MC level. even about their room in hotel) now their fans can enjoy their interactions in wail as much as they want and it won't affect other parts of their private life and carer like how MC did.
in the other hand we had that MC reunion pics, that hug, that drunk call teasing and what haha said in kg members week that worsen everything.
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6 hours ago, athoughtcloud1 said:
Whatever happens in the anniversary special, I feel SA is the future of the show and think the cast and the PDs know that. I also don't think the episode will all be about MC or even Gary. If SJK does guest, then for sure, the PDs will try their maximum to milk that. I think the PDs will also know that they have to avoid a situation where there will be undesirable comparisons between the old and the new members coz at the end of the day, you don't want all the viewers to say "ditch SM and SC. We want to see Gary and SJK" (I do see some of that happening all the same).
may i ask why do you think they are future of the show? somehow it looks really interesting.
and about the another topic that was discussed recently, I think if they marry they one of them will leave the show although it was one of my wishes to see them together on the show after a dating announcement but if I want to be realistic with current situation it seems impossible. plus I always thought they will only marry when they want to have a child otherwise there is no need to go through all the hardships of an announcement when they can have a peaceful secret relationship. if they really marry someday there are lot of factors that make it hard for both of them stay in RM.
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18 hours ago, athoughtcloud1 said:
Yup. That period is definitely interesting and we do discuss that period a lot. LOL. I haven't re-watched episodes 80s-120s in a while, so I go by what I remember of them. Based on what I remember, this is the period where I feel their equation changes, perhaps from colleagues to something more though I feel they start seriously dating (where they sort of became a couple) only around the 150s, And for me, that turnaround in their equation is most visible in episode 82. I agree with you regarding that episode. I have shared a baidu poster's analysis of episode 82 before that discusses the same thing.
We will never know what really happened but I do feel JH used to take more initiative in interacting with JK prior to episode 82. And then there are moments like this where it seems JSJ is teasing JH, like saying 'I know who you want to stay close to'.:
Based on what I remember, get the feeling JK was more cautious about his interactions with JH which changes quite a lot after she starts dating the CEO. I assume that he might have liked her but was hesitant to act on them (based on what I perceive as his mood swings in episode 82), I believe Gary when he said that if he and JH had dated each other, one of them would have had to leave the show in case of a break-up. JK also said the same thing about the MC relationship on an earlier occasion and I feel he was talking to some extent about the risks he also had to take in pursuing a relationship with JH. For even MC to date, there was a huge risk. Then what about SA who were not even the official loveline? So think, the cautious JK would have thought it better not to start something he wouldn't have been sure of finishing (JS does refer to him as a guy who will not meet you half way).
But I wonder how long JH's relationship with the CEO lasted. I sometimes feel JH broke up with her BF by episode 90. In episode 90, MC are teamed up and while JS at first asks them to have their variety date for old times' sake, but once the episode progresses, you get to hear him saying things like they look good together to their faces a bit too much.Gary also talks about starting again with JH. It could be that the production team wanted to re-start MC but still it is a bit insensitive to re-start MC so soon if JH was in such a serious relationship. Or perhaps her relationship had on and off periods. But I also can't imagine the RM cast joking about the lion and the tiger falling in love in episode 95 if JH had been in a serious relationship (you could have talked about the lion and the tiger working together since JK and JH had worked together quite well in the past, why talk about them falling in love?). After episode 82 and 83 (there is that whole bit about JH's confession to Haha that she was out of sorts and not interacting with the rest during their shoot at the Dongbaek island), I see JH sticking close with JK like during the episodes where Big Bang guests, but I think in those episodes, they are just trying to bring back the normalcy to their interactions..
And then you have episode 88. I feel JH wasn't well during that day, you can see her walking slowly with a hand on her waist and stomach at times. The weather was also damp and chilly. This is supposed to be about JK leading on JH so as to betray her, but for me, there is something more in the way he waits with his outstretched hand until JH takes it and in the way he purses his lips as he walks on. It is a first for JK to hold out his hand for her.
These gifs from episode 92 caught my attention. From what I remember from watching the episode, there isn't anything that unusual, they are in the same team. But looking at these gifs, I felt JK was more conscious of his skinship with her (may be since she was known to be dating the CEO). Like for instance, in their shout out video for some FM with JH and Haha, JK puts his arm around JH's shoulder and then once he gets conscious, tries to make it into a manner hand.
Again, at some point , where they are looking at some question/clue together, JK has his arms around both of them, but his hand is almost near JH's nape which is slightly closer skinship and it seems to me as though he is also aware of it.
Have to re-watch the entire episode though. From here, we have episode 93 where JH proves her loyalty to JK and we have that moment where they walk behind everyone else and form an alliance. By episode 95, they are even more closer choosing to work together and spending so much time together away from the rest that even JS remarks on it. There,we have the liger talk and finally JK lets JH win.
Also from 95 onwards and when they go to Thailand, there are more suspicious interactions including intense glances and skinship. Like this moment in episode 95
and then this in episode 97. JH's hand on JK's shoulder stays there for quite some time.
Same with JK in these episodes. He is initiating more exchanges with JH and this is one instance which made me take a re-look at SA in my initial days as a non-shipper.
If earlier, JK's peeks at her were more surreptitious, by this time, looks like he is openly paying her attention.
This was during the same period and seems like JK is moving closer and closer to JH.
This is episode 99. Nothing much except that the way JH stands behind JK here, half-hidden, becomes their trademark line up pose later.
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Have more thoughts on the later episodes, but they need more analysis.
these eps that you mentioned are among my favorite sa eps and I think in that period they were in flirting phase that usually happens before you start dating, when you want to test the water. also i think jk could be in a relationship himself in that time and it took some time for him to make a decision to ends it and start a new one. honestly i think a man with his personality wouldn't be without a gf from 2011 till 2013 that we think sa started dating.
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30 minutes ago, saissuspicious said:
Actually I share 90% of your thoughts as it fall perfectly with what I felt about SA's relationship developement.
I really can't ignore this part of all the roller coaster rode we had with SA's relationship, and I really want to go back on the topic of SJH's relationship with her CEO despite the fact that I know many shippers hate what I'm gonna bring up. I really don't beleive in SJH's relationship with the CEO was a real one. For so many facts I can't ignore.
1. How come a CEO who knows perfectly how a celebrity's relationship is handled (and we all know that KPOP celebrities and actors are told to keep their relationship hidden) gets caught by dispatch on the street holding hands with a celebrity (SJH) with whom he is in a business relationship as a CEO of the agency she is contracted with.
2. I don't see the need to hold hands on the street wearing a mask (it attracts attention because most celebrities wear it to hide their faces) we all saw celebrities dating and caught and in most of the time you don't get to see them holding hands in the photos taken by papparazzi it's always photos of them getting in and out of cars, entering or exiting the parking, in the same cafe, ...but never holding hands like come and take our photos we are here cutting the streets and laughing like it's the simplist thing in the world.
3. The period of dating. Which is really really really weird. When the photos was out, SJH said that she has been dating the CEO for almost 2 or 3 months, which is a delicate period as she would be more attentive as she and the CEO both knows how it would turn out if "their relationship" is exposed to the public because of the popularity MC is having at that time. So what's whith the dating openly on the streets?????!!!!! Does it make sense for you? Unless they are out of it. Maybe SJH but the CEO should be familiar with the whole dating issues that could destroy a celebrity's career.
4. Back to how long the relationship lasted. So at episode 82 she was already dating the CEO for 2 months and on episode 95 we have the liger conversation which happened 3 months after episode 82. And if we do a brief calculation we would have 4 sundays aproximitly per month, and between episode 82 and 95 we have 13 week which is equal to 3 months and 1 week. So SJH's relationship lasted 5 months in all???? I'm saying this because HAHA and especially YJS would never bring the liger conversation if SJH is still in a relationship with the CEO as it would be so disrespectful for an actress to be in a real relationship, the monday girlfriend and now KJK. What would that make her look like.
5. Now it's dispatch we are talking about. It's an agency known for give and take behaviour over photos taken of celebrities dating secretely. And they are well known for showing the photos to the celebrity before publishing them as it is out of law to publish something about celebritties without their consent unless you are prepared to pay a lot of money as a recompensation. This is a well known procedure in the showbiz, if caught the celebrity, the agency or "SBS as example it could be another channel" if you present a danger to the program's reputation they would pay for not publishing those photos as it is the safest for all parties. Why not in SJH's case, her relationship with the CEO being exposed to the public wasn't seen important to either party????
What I think is purely assumptions as nobody knows the truth expect SJH, so here what I think :
Seeing the situation she was in at that time if we assume that she is in love with KJK and she has to play the Monday Girlfriend in front of him, how would he or she feel and especially when you discover your feelings at first you can't think right and overcome jealousy easily, what we see now is the grown up SA over years of experiencing jealousy and how to control it. And for those who think that the MC thing is similar to acting I would say no bacause KJK is not present during her scene taking while playing a role, and we all know how cheesy KG can be, so seeing your loved one flirting in front of you is different from seeing her acting on screen.
And for the theory saying that SJH would never expose herself knowing the popularity of MC at that time, then why didn't she or the CEO pay for the photos to disappear. Also why is that article soooooo detailed, did SJH and the CEO meet with the writer and told him what to write and what not???
I think SJH was burdened with the MC role as she was always reluctant to do it and it was something imposed on her by the production team and that's how she was decided to stay and for Lizzy to leave. I really think she wanted for the Monday girlfriend image to disappear and that's the best solution for me that's why once the news was on, YJS said it's the end of the loveline. Also what I find interesting is that the person involved in the dating with SJH is her CEO who is not a celebrity and it's the safest way. Another thing I find strange or odd, everyone know once a couple broke up they try to avoid each other even if the broke up is not a bad one surely there's some complications. So how come SJH stay with the agancy for that long period although she could have changed to another one also it took her so much to announce the break up. Isn't it fishy???
And as we all know that beside having a contract with SBS as a running man member, SJH had another one as the monday girlfriend role and she is paid for that, do you remember in episode 172 KJK mentioning that it's not in the contract anymore that SJH had to play the MC girlfriend. I think SBS warned her as she broke the contract when the information about her dating the CEO was out to the public and asked her to either replay the role of the mc girlfriend after a some episodes, to leave or to pay a huge some as she broke the contract. That's why we see that her plan to get rid of the MC wasn't successful as she started playing her role short after the news was out.
I think most of us share the same developement of SA's relationship but we all see her dating with the CEO as something unclear and It always chook as it bring our thoughts to mute that's why I think it's the key point to understand SA more.
What do you guys think as I know what I wrote would seem imaginative and even inapropriate but it's showbiz we are talking about.
just like you i think that relationship could be fake almost for the same reasons that you said and i totally agree with that "why the article was so detailed?" part.
but more than sjh will i think that dating news could be related to a political issue (if that was really fake). you know it's normal whenever there is a political issue use a celebrity or even lot of celebrities and publish bunch of articles about unexpected things to divert public attention from the main point. and when there is pressure from the powerful ones like governments or multimillionaires they usually can't refuse. that's why the first time i heard about that news i wondered there were something like that ,that we will never know about it?
one of the unsuccessful examples for this attempt was what recently happened for their president scandal. even without knowing about it i could say something was happening from all of those articles about dating news that they broke up two months later or break up news that happened long ago, those rape scandals that all turned to be nothing in a short time and etc.
so i think it could be a reason for those pic and detailed article that as what you said didn't look real for some of us for many reasons.
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On 1/5/2017 at 10:58 PM, mary-ann said:
guys what do you think about the comment JK came with towards SJH, like" i know i wont be in this team etc"
I don't think it's something new. regardless of their relationship,friends or something else he teased her in the same manner several times before.
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2 hours ago, ann_a said:
Do you guys think that they should've brought back Lizzy as a permanent member? Because if they did bring her back along with Se Chan then maybe some of the fans would've been more accepting of the change.
rm fans usually have problem with every changes but kfans accepted jsm and honestly she did a great job . even if it was lizzy some of them would feel insecure and curse her like how they did the same for jsm.because they wanted to see jh as the only female member.so jsm or any other female actress or idol wouldn't make any difference.
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I just wanted to mention something. SOG was not a human so if he died after that fight with black dragon he would perish and completely gone like summer fairy so he wouldn't go to the same place as sunmi.
And probably because most of us are from a different culture I think there is a misunderstanding about that underworld, I don't think it's the same as hell since in their heaven they have their gods not good people so it doesn't mean sunmi Will be in a bad condition in afterlife world .