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  1. 14 minutes ago, crazyoverkdrama said:

    That's what's wrong with this drama. They could have ended the immortality like WY-SN, but noooo.... They want JET to die, reincarnate, repeat. But GB will forever be GB. They just made the title VERY literal.

     

    I really don't understand. She came up with a lot of out of the box stuff with her writing. Why go for the same old tried a 1000 times over again type ending. Man i am so disappointed :(

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  2. I don't know if it is just me but come on is it fair for Kim Shin to remain a Goblin when he always wanted to get rid of his immortality? Having to go through deaths of his loved ones again and agin and painstakingly wait for his wife to reincarnate. There is no Gr and Deok Hwa with him too. Will he forever live on with this eternity with those painful memories. Not done.come on i really expected better this time. Why don't i learn: (

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  3. So i sacrificed my sleep to watch the epi with subs and i absolutely loved the episode. Each and every bit of it. I must admit that during the live recaps i became a bit apprehensive since everything got sorted pretty quickly but after i actually saw the epi i was taken aback how everything just flowed so perfectly making so much sense.

    Firstly, the benevolence of the Almighty! From the previous episode when i saw Almight-in-DH-body i really thought he was harsh. In this epi i saw another side of it. He didn't ask Kim Shin to stay between life and afterlife - Kim Shin chose it. Almighty had after all granted him peace. Also i liked how he didn't erase GR's memories - sparing him of the misery of forgotten memories yet again. As they say when God closes one door he opens up another one - Reaper was that door for Kim Shin *weeps* *my bromance rocks*

    Fate is the question the almighty throws and Kim Shin wasn't quite done finding the answer. He didn't give up and went on with the unending road - lonely as ever with only that contract giving him the strength. 

    I just could not fathom Eun Tak, Reaper, Deok Hwa, Sunny in a life without Goblin. It was really cruel how each everything related to him was taken away. Even the first love was burnt down :( And my cheerful Eun Tak was taken away as well :( (there are people who were annoyed with her cheerfulness *rolls eyes* hope they are happy now) Although she looked beautiful but she wasn't exactly shining as Kim Shin always saw her, suffering each day. I loved the faith Eun Tak had on Shin before she lost his memories-  that he will come...as rain or snow but he ll definitely would come. He wrote it down as a last ditch attempt to keep Kim Shin alive with her in some form even though she didn't even remember it later.

    I had goosebumps at Kim Shin's return sequence. Totally mindblown. Finally almighty listened to both of ShinTak's prayers as she gets to summon him again. When Eun Tak is asking to be saved, Kim Shin has to come right? Loved that touch. *weeps again* Emotions in the hug was wonderfully portrayed by Gong Yoo and Go Eun. How proud was he to see her fulfil her dreams, you could see that in his eyes. 

    Oh my Grim Reaper :( If there is true love - guys here it is. No ShinTak, No ReaperSunny. It's our Ajhusshi duo people. Kim Shin checked on each ansd every person whom he loved... and how they were doing - lastly he checked on Reaper *sigh* You know when he first got to know Reaper was Wang Yeo i just hoped my bromance was saved. But as it went i realized it needed no saving at all. Kim Shin would forever be loyal to and love Wang Yeo. despite the hurts and resentment he never stopped doing that. Which is why i never once thought he'd ever take revenge on him. Reaper on his side being on his own for 9 years sort of was like Shin for 900 years. He now remembered eveything and was living with it as Shin did for 900 years. He saw people he cared and loved around him - Sunny and Eun tak - but behaved as a stranger. Sigh. It is only now that he got a chance for reflection of his sins of the previous life. I am so glad for him that Shin returned and he got a chance to sincerely apologise to him. Oh my bromance got healed * i ll weep a lot today pls bear *

    Chairman's Yu's parting gift to Kim Shin helped him get back his identity. Seriously i am so touched by loyalties shown in this show. Absolutely heart wrenching. Whether it's Chairman Yu and the soldier from Goyeo towards Shin, Shin and Sun towards Wang Yeo or Eun Tak's mom's friend towards her friend. Or even Chariman Kim towards his previous Chairman. I am so surprised how smartly the writer encorporated it and blended it with the light hearted tone of the show haha. The one person who hasnt changed is only Deok Hwa with all his Chaebol airs bwahaha.

    Talking of change, i just can't see Eun Tak like this. I need her to be happy and cheerful. You know although Kim Shin knows Eun Tak doesn't remember him yet he is so happy. Just to be able to see her again - which he never fathomed is enough for him to be happy. THIS makes me more teary eyed than Eun Tak losing her memories. It's absolutely touching. My favourite scene of the epi has to be Kim Shin blooming flowers again. God he is so happy *sheds a tear* Although he was happy he did miss his Eun Tak who'd run to embrace him the moment she saw him.

    Did anyone else's heart sink everytime Kim Shin went i was called by someone in front of Eun Tak when she asked how he is ending up in front of her. Mine did. But i am glad the hilarity is back too pfft like Goblin mooching off the Grim Reaper. Also it was good to see Eun Tak go Giddy realizing a big shot CEO is pursuing her big time - who wouldn't lol. I find it funny how she suddenly and unknowingly summons Shin and he has no way to explain how he ends up in front. Turns out Eun Tak starting shining from the moment Shin came back to her life - that is one detail that Shin is unaware of when he saw her bright face in the future in Qubec in his dreams. Whatever Dokkaebi does is cute and giddy for me. I am so looking forward to him wooing Eun Tak not thinking about the end. KES did not let us down with her elaborate writing and detailing. (She even kept ETs class friend with her to remind her of the time she saw ghosts. Wow.) So despite past bad experiences with shows  (esp the ones staring KGE pfft) i m willing to trust this one. 

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  4. Oh my the preview *sniff* It's gonna be so complicated and awkward. First with Sunny having to digest a hell lot of facts and then with Kim Shin to see his sister in front of him but unable to decipher their relationship or remember him 

    I think Shamshin halmoni is just genuinely happy that Een Tak made it to university. Hopefully there is nothing more to their meeting. (Even if memory loss is taken as a possibility, for halmoni isn't taking out the sword from Shin the priority. Memory loss will just complicate it). I am more worried about that *hat drop*. Is the big revelation on cards? (High time. Its the 11th epi) 

    Also i am glad for more flashbacks. We ll finally know the story behind the jade ring. More of kim so hyun is always welcome to me.

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  5. Merry Christmas everyone! A few thoughts on the past two episodes -

    The 7th episode i feel was preparing us for the real deal that 8th episode provide. It was relatively light and cute (except for the last few minutes) and really don't mind slow episodes if story is sort of consistent. 

    First things first - i just cannot get over our Goblin's reaction to the kiss ROFL. behaving like some cutesy teenager covering his mouth and all haha. one of the things i absolutely ADORE in this show is Kim Shin's and Reaper's love hate relationship. So it's not surprising how much i cracked up when Reaper professed his love for Kim Shin, picking up the trick from Eun Tak (pfft), to save his ownership of the house or he when he planned to send Eun Tak packing so that he and Kim Shin can live happily together as they used to before.

    I think these guys with Eun Tak and Deok Hwa have become such a family...i doubt they don't even realize that. Besides Kim Shin, i like how  Eun Tak shares a rapport with both Reaper and Deok Hwa. I especially was touched how all of them were there for her (with a cake) when she came back after her entrance exam.

    Also what i found interesting was that after Deok Hwa's grandpa suggests for Kim Shin to think about living rather than dying, he gives it a thought and sort of tries to shed his inhibitions. So this time he has no qualms in admitting to being interested in being Eun Taks boyfriend - he goes all out to declare it-  or going out having fun dates with her (man the meta take on Train to Busan was so spot on. I still crack up when i think of Kim Shin freaking out seeing Gong Yoo's movie Bwahahaha)

    I know for some the banters btw Shin and Eun Tak may come out to be way too repetitive. Yet i tend to enjoy them way too much because there is something so endearing about both the scenes and Gong Yoo's performance. I absolutely love how he brings the childishness whenever he is jealous and mad at Eun Tak over it. I can watch a jealous Goblin all my life, snatching away his own gifted cakes or becoming the antithesis of a Guardian to Tae hee oppa.

    The stakes got way too higher in episode 8. I often wonder did things change when he hugged her. Apart from the silent moment they shared when she was singing at the wedding, the hug must have overwhelmed her with feelings, which is why maybe now she got a hold to the sword. (i absolutely loved the hug scene btw,...it felt like Eun Tak was feeling something really different ...ah the nuances KGE brings) Also the last time we were shown the sword was hurting was after they came back from Qubec where Kim Shin was totally mesmerized by her. This time as well he was having a blissful moment with Eun Tak giggling and what not when the pain striked...as if it was a not-so-gentle reminder about his punishment. As Deok Hwa's grandfather suggests the sword is both his prize and his punishment. with his prized moments, lies the truth of his punishment.

    When Eun Tak asked him whether he was glad that it is after all her who is his bride, it took me back to the scene where he had drunk confessed that she was the first and his only bride. This time around too he smirked a little as if to say why is this even a question and assured her he was glad. While she went all glad and happy, not even fully recovered from the near death experience, all he could do is watch her painfully with misty eyes as she tells it's their destiny - a cruel destiny. (ack.i am a wreck i think by now). 

    My favorite scene has to be where she lies besides a tired Kim Shin....soothing and easing his pain. The beauty of the scene leaves me speechless. There is something so surreal about it. The conversation between them....there is again the concealed pain of Kim Shin which Eun Tak is unaware of when he talks about his first love. How he watches her get prettier everyday and is greedy to keep watching her shine every passing day...but is that in his destiny? He asks her not to go and they get into their typical banter, yet they smile at the end cause that's the place they want to be - besides each other and you can see the peace in their faces. As though that is their little world.

    I like it how ultimately does firm up his resolve (well sort of) to live...at least as long as Eun Tak is well and alive. There are some really cute scenes between him and Eun Tak where he fesses up that he likes seeing her jealous (aww) or the matter of factly confession he makes to Eun Tak that turns her into mush. hahahaha i cant get over how awesomely bland that confession was. 

    Coming to Reaper and Sunny. I really hope we can see more of Sunny....i mean the episode runs almost an hour and 20 minutes sometimes right? Man didn't it kill me when Reaper cries in pain seeing the portrait of the queen! It is more or less clear that he is the King and Sunny is the queen. The flashbacks have sort of given some premise to another tragedy of this show....the tragedy of King, Queen and Kim Shin. By the flashbacks it is evident that the King did love Queen since a long time - and to order her death....i just cannot imagine the anguish. I hope we get more about all the grave sins that the King committed - there has to be an awful lot for him to get turned into a reaper (didn't Shin say once that you had to commit a million sins to become a reaper?) I feel a lot more worse thinking about the Queen - stuck in between her brother and husband must have been an ordeal for her. It makes for a fascinating tragic love story. King must have been played upon where his insecurities were used and fueled to the point where he might have started detesting Kim Shin. Each of these three had their own battles to fight....Kim Shin himself must have been torn between his duty, his loyalty towards the king and his sense of justice upon being treated unfairly. This track has so much potential in the present timeline....it sucks how much they are under utilizing it and sunny's part. 

    In all this are we even getting hints of Deok Hwa maturing? Ever since he has read Kim Shin's confession and got to know about the sword and the people her could never forget he has started seeing Shin in a new light, seeing a different side to him. Will that lead upto him growing up and being the support to his uncle as is his legacy?

    In all this i find Shamshin Grandma very confusing. The last scene has to be one of the most powerful ones. What stuck me most was how much he resents her. His fate is so cruelly twisted from the past and even now in the present! After killing innocents on the line of duty, he was declared a traitor and his loved ones where killed in front of him. After 900 years of painful immortality when it seemed like it was about to end, he got a new lease of life in the form of Eun Tak and it turns out there is this crazy situation where one has to die for the other to live. Is it just me who feels his fate is unfair? And when Shamshin Grandma comes out and says it's for his own happiness - it just hits where it hurts the most. Why won't there be resentment in his eyes then? It interplays beautifully with Eun Tak coming to know the consequences of drawing out the sword.

    The last monologue just fits the situation....it doesn't seem like the heavens will ever give him the permission to confess to Eun Tak that she is after all his first love.

     

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  6. Rofl. I watched the whole friggin show in anticipation of the last scene with modern Wang So. Turns out there is no modern Wang So? Really? this was the ending they thought in a Pre-produced show. Honestly, how difficult was it to shoot one scene where they meet in modern day? I don't understand writers and their logic some times. 

    But then again maybe they went with the novel's ending. *shrugs*

     

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  7. The ironies in this show. At a point, Wook had chosen his family over Soo - and later his family turned their back on him. How in a way So wanted the throne to protect and have Baek ah and Soo by his side...and now he is ending up alone.

    I had expected to be heartbroken by the time the story reached the point where Hae Soo leaves the palace....but i ended up feeling frustrated. i didn't exactly end up understanding or feeling Hae Soo's conflicts. I know the adaptation has not been the best out there, but i thought atleast this crucial arc would be handled well.

    I would have been fine if Hae Soo had acknowledged Chae Ryung's betrayal and yet called out So and not forgiven him. I would have been convinced of the separation citing that all this was too much for her to handle. What hit me was she turned a blind eye on the fact that she was being sold out by Chae Ryung and looked at So as some lying criminal. 

    Same for her accusing eye at So when she calls him out for planting the dead hawk, completely forgetting what Wook did to Moo and Eun! If Chae Ryung was like her little sister, didn't she consider Moo her elder brother too??? It's not about begging for Wook's life, it's about her treating So differently in similar situations. She loves and cares for the princes equally. So i completely understand her begging for wook's life. She'd have done this for any of the Princes  (that is the only thing i found convincing). But her accusing look towards So contradicts her equal care for the brothers. 

    By this time the revelation of her relationship had nearly no effect on me. Given that it was one of the most anticipated scenes for me, i was dissatisfied by it's treatment. I felt more during Wook and Soo's farewell. 

    In all this i feel So got a raw deal. Yes, granted he became a ruthleas king....but wasn't he always that? At the end of the day his decisions were backed by motivations to protect his people and his kingdom. He didn't take his citizens for granted and stayed firm on his resolve to protect Baek Ah and Soo. Yes, decisions backfired - as with Woo Hee but his intention was never to let her die. I honestly felt Chae Ryung was the only far fetched decision where the conflict could have made sense. But rest all were provocations of other factions. And he had to protect his people. He never killed his kin once on that throne, didn't want bloodshed dealing with Bakjae people...yet somehow he was the one who ended up getting demonized. In all tnis it's tragic how he had to end up alone yet again. 

    At the end just one line which is enough to express his agony, pain and melancholy - i didn't abandon her. She abandoned me...

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  8. After the last episode i just wanted to write a few things on Hae Su and Wang So in terms of them witnessing the King's (Wang Mu) death.

    It was heart wrenching to see especially Hae Su who had to witness the King she was so loyal and devoted to die in front of her. Right from when Su and So entered the palace one of their prime motives had become to protect the then crown Prince. Hae Su with her attempts to conceal his illness and helping him deal with it, and So's attempt to survive in the Palace boiled down to protecting the crown prince (not that that was the only reason). i felt that amongst all the threads Hae Soo and Wang So were connected with, Wang Mu was one of them. In the sense, their life sort of changed for them and he was one the reason. In his quest to protect and be an important ally to Wang Mu, So entered the palace. He could meet Soo, fall in love with her....and become healed as a person. Not to forget he saved So from his psychotic mother! Su similarly, after Mu became the king, had her situation changed by his favours which she earned by her loyalty towards his him whether it was regarding his ailment or helping Taejo protect him. She became the head court lady and slowly started to accept So and her feelings towards him. Both So and Su worked hard and gave their best to protect the King. In a way they even compromised on their relationship when So married the Princess. To see something they nurtured and cherished fall the way Wang Mu did....would have pained them a lot.

    Special mention to Su especially. Having to witness deaths of people she loved or respected and honored within the span of 3 or 4 years. First her cousin, then Lady Oh (which had to be the most painful), King Taejo and now Mu. This show has many drawbacks, but IU's portrayal of Hae Su isn't one of them. It's surprising for me cause i did not have any expectations from her to start with when the show began. But turns out one of the biggest positives of this show (for me atleast) is her ability to move me. Every death, every betrayal, every heartbreak.....she just got to me with the pain she expressed.

    I am glad for Hae Su and Hae So finally reaching somewhere in the relationship. But i am greedy as well. I am sad that we had to miss the 2 years of their relationship. Mind you 2 important years of their relationship. Where we left was a point where she has started to fall to So. Despite her reluctance, So's ability to protect and value drew her towards him and there was nothing she could do to stop it. It reached a point where she trusted So more than Wook. I would have loved to see the realization and acceptance and more moments which lead to that in these two years....since this is what i had been anticipating for a long time since the show started with it's adaptation.  

    I however liked the conflict thrown into their relationship in the form of a marriage. And the resolution which lead to the kiss was the cherry on cake. I think what matters for Soo at this moment is not the fulfillment of promises. She knows the weight promises have in Goreyo. She witnessed it for 4 odd years or so. For her all it matters is trust, sincerity and most importantly TOGETHERNESS during hard times instead of hiding your face just because you could not keep your word. That is why this confrontation was so important than just poetic metaphor of an explanation. What hurt her during wook was not his abandonment, but his abandonment without a word! Why won't she understand if you said so, why wouldn't she wait if asked so? So explaining his situation and confession not only made Su understand his situation but also drove her to seal their relationship with a kiss. But alas, the Wook mystery is their haunt their relationship....now more because we know how much So despises lies. 

    Wook seems a completely different man. From a person who didn't care about power (or pretended so?) to now viciously lust for it. He scares me more than Yo - at least he is a predictably vile with his wormtail of a 9th brother Won. Atleast in the Chinese version the 8th Brother was ambitious from the very go. Fine. I have no problem with his ambitions. What bothers me is he puts Su somewhere in the equation in his quest for power, that it's because of her sake he is pursing his ambition for the throne:blink: As it is it annoyed me in the previous episodes that he blamed So for Su's misfortunes. Hein? 

    While i enjoy Baek ah and So's brotherly relationship. I don't know why i keep craving for things to be well with him and Jung. It's tragic how these brothers turned out thanks to the psychotic mother. But a reconciliation is far from happening since Wook is dear to Jung....and god knows if Su and Jung will have something in the lines of the original.

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  9. I don't get the negetive comments sometimes, i respect the opinions...but still don't get it. Tbh i am enjoying this show a lot.... even the 13th episode felt as the most nerve wrecking episode ever. They did play around established rules right? and it's not that they created new rules as such till 14th epi (we all know tablets are used as a portkey to travel, and that characters can summon people from real life...most of Kang Chul's hypothsis was based on that). So i don't get the criticism where people say everyday the rules change.

    I felt 14th episode was a bit slower than previous episodes but not enough to write off the entire series. I mean during the run of a show one or two episodes might be a bit slow which can be granted. Actually the 14th episode left me a little puzzled with it's developments.

    Usually i'd be mindblown. Now i am a bit underwhelmed. Creating of a copy of the tablet seemed too convenient of a solution to me. Kang Chul figuring that out with Dad giving inputs about it's whereabouts....it was just a easy route the writers went with. But then could there be more to it revealed in the last set of episodes?

    Other than that, after giving it a thought i am quite satisfied with the episode. Kang Chul yet again is its star. Not only because of his quick yet rational thinking but also because of his determination, perseverance and love for Yeon Joo and care for Yeon Joo's loved ones. 

    You know in all this Dad is still such a loser. There is no growth whatsoever in his character. He still cannot deal with defeat and loneliness and as usual drinks over it, or worse, contemplates ending his life. Pathetic. With such a weak character i am not surprised that his stronger manhwa counterpart is taking over him.

    I loved the bits where Kang Chul before devoting himself in saving Yeon Joo, he first stabilizes dad and calms Soo bong. I loved how he reassures dad by confessing how precious Yeon Joo is to him. She is the only person he has...and she is for real. And by extension even dad is his family - so that dad doesn't consider himself alone and do something stupid yet again. It was touching how he saves Yeon Joo's family and loved ones (i am including Soo bong) from breaking down and gave them strength and hope.

    I especially liked when he said Soo bong not to cry. Just awwww. Can we please have Soo bong call him Kang Maehyung anytime soon. Haha.

    I also came to appreciate how intricately Chul had planned this scenario. Starting from summoning him and Yeon Joo to his world to save her life he just played the right cards. He knew with a new episode, dad could re-draw Yeon Joo's fate and bring her alive. Hence he started planning how to bring the tablet copy back. Earlier i wondered just how did 'to be continued' appear at the right time as required. Later realized since Chul was writing his story this time...he planned the climax in such a way that the conclusion of the episode was well timed and accurate. Everything just fell into place. Coming back to the real world and summoning Han Chul ho was sheer genius. It's the timing that mattered. It also showed how much and determination he had. Notice how Han Chul Ho disappears shortly after that. Which means once after chul went back he summoned Han Chul ho back too.

    Now comes the puzzling bit - Dad and the tablet. This tablet is bothering me too much. Earlier i mentioned the copy of the tablet seemed too convinient...but is it really? Was it a contingency plan by the villian to bring himself back in case he was killed? Now previously we did see it being implied that the villian and dad are one soul. The villian could be an alter ego or split personality of dad which he projects in the manhwa world which is now threatening to take over him since he is not a strong person and gives in - which is why he was controlled so easily and which is essentially why he remembers everything the villian did. 

    Now i am just worried about the resolution to our OTP. I thought after today's episode after Yeon Joo is saved, we can have some time for their relationship developing further too. Yes, i am satisfied and convinced about Chul's feelings for Yeon Joo...they go beyond expression since Chul went to crazy ends to save her life! Yet i do want him to convey that to her...it isn't necessary to say i love you, but it's that this is what Yeon Joo wanted..along with a photo. I just need a little bit more time for them. Cause all their happy dates have been dream sequences. But here another complicated test awaits them with Yeon Joo back to Chul's world with him facing a trial and uncertainty regarding her dad. Just how difficult is it to get a happy ending? 

    You know Kang Chul planned his own torture to trick Han Chol ho - that's how much he loves Yeon Joo and that's how confident and determined he was for their happy ending...which he reiterated to Yeon Joo's dad as well. I just hope he doesn't waver in the final episode. I have full trust in Kang Chul...but this show is so unpredictable. Yet i am confident of a happy ending. It doesn't make sense to make everything they went through futile.

    P.S. Special shoutout Soo bong for yelling at Crazy dog for mentioning Yeon Joo to Dad bwahaha. That makes up for everytime he tortured Yeon joo. But wait...is the crazy dog warming up to uri Yeon Joo when he found that she died? It would be intresting if an anti is converted to a fan...you know what i mean?

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  10. *I'll be comparing this with the C-drama only a little bit, so just forgive me for once*

    Ah, i wished they went C-drama way for Su's and the 8th's relationship. Although i am totally on Su's and 4th's ship...i was looking forward to this arc because going as per original it was an important part of Ruoxi's journey. I was a bit taken aback when they made Lady Hae fall in love 8th. I didn't come here expecting that. It's actually a drawback for the one's who have watched the C-version and have come here with a certain expectations about the direction in which the story-line will go. This actually changes everything in the equation. The Prince wavering etc...everything. Especially with the values that Hae Soo brought with her to Goreyo, it becomes more messed up. I do sympathize with her a lot...but the situation certainly got messed....intentional or not (and yes i know matters of the heart and all that) but it did end up hurting Lady Hae especially in her last days. Still i sympathize with Su beause Lady Hae's death is going to leave a huge burden on her....and of course Wook too. With that kind of burden, will she be able to marry the 8th? All they didn't explicitly show it in this one, but she was one of the reason Su was able to survive and adapt in Goreyo (although most of the credit was given to Wook, unlike in the original). She was her family. The burden is going to be enormous! 

    Talking of burden, a lot of people in this show have their own burden to bear - Su and Wook with their forbidden feelings (yes, i do believe they have feelings for each other...and i am totally fine with it. People can fall in love in love twice. In this case, Su will find her soulmate in Wang Soo), So bearing the burden of being abandoned and tortured, 13th and his feelings for Lady Hae, Crown Prince and the burden of the throne, Wang Yo bearing burden of his and his mother's ambitions and expectations, and even our Jung fighting with the burden of his complicated family and relationship with his brothers. 

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    Some how i hope that we get to see 13th Prince's relationship with Su as her drinking buddy you know. One of my favorite things about BBJX was Ruoxi and the 13th's friendship. Here it seems they started off on a rough patch, hope we get to see a good evolution on that front

     

    I am slowly getting used to the fact that this one's a different deal than it's source material (which is fair enough) Not that i wasn't loving it as it was, just that i was a bit taken aback. The one thing that has remained consistent with me though was extremely loving this show's take on the 4th Prince. I was sold from day one. Part of it...scratch that...whole of it was due to Lee Jun Ki and his awesome portrayal. A little bad treatment of this character would have turned it into a caricature. But the heartbreaking and the cruel backstory nailed by LJK's performance just brought out the darkness, vulnerability, pain, insecurities, inferiority complex and anger so perfectly. I don't know whether i felt more heartbroken for So or more angry and repulsive towards the so called biological mother of his, using her sons as pawns for her political ambitions and ego, when So was narrating his life with his adoptive family. Why wouldn't he behave like an animal if he is sent amongst one? Why wouldn't he threaten Su every-time she cuts his path...that's literally all he has done all his life - kill. Yet it took this clueless intriguing girl to actually understand him? All those high and mighty learned people in the Palace absolutely have no heart at all?

    I totally love the build up to Su and So's relationship. The evolution from the coldness to warmth...the journey towards a budding friendship which will eventually blossom into love. It all started when Su hit the right buttons with So, asking him was it wrong for her to act like she did in order to survive. Ah. It hit the right spot. That's what he has been doing for ages! Killing to survive. If that softened him to some extent towards her, Su not judging a bloodied So nailed it for him. That scene has to be the most poignant in my opinion. She was not just stopping him from knocking over those prayer stones...she was asking him to get himself together and calming him down....caring for him as a person. This man has not heard even one warm word of kindness or sympathy from even his mother. His brothers act with caution around him, his blood-related brothers insult him on his face, even Yeon hwa who claims to miss him considers him as some project where she'd tame the wild *major eye roll*. And yet it was Su who was vocal about her sympathies...and about the fact she understood where he was coming from...who was worried about his own blood gushing out rather than noticing people's blood on his face. It took those few words to calm him down. 

    Just how beautifully their equation evolved from there. He saved her from being caned...of-course he noticed it was all because of the pains she went through to return the gift meant for his ... err the person who gave birth to him. Notice the incremental changes in him...he is opening up - he mischievously flirts with her calling her as his. *major swoooon*, he bickered with her when she brought him food (bickered and not threaten to kill) he smiles to himself every-time Su does something amusing haha...i guess that smile comes on only at just one other place - when his brothers fight childishly, God he even deciphered her emojis. Limit. Their conversation in the Palace clearly shows they have moved towards friendship....i think she even earned his respect in a way when she excused herself after overhearing bits of So's conversation with his...i mean the lady who gave birth to him, not leaving him in an awkward position in front of her. 

    In all this, all though i realize So slowly developing feelings for her, Su is entangled in her complicated feelings for Wook. I am expecting some major wooing and sincere conveyance of his feelings....and most importantly him patiently doing so, waiting for her. I would like him to be persistent with her, reiterate his feelings through touching gestures....protecting her with his life.

    Spoiler

    Something like the arrow scene from BBJX:heart:

     

    But then again, these are my expectations, since the show has been one step ahead of my expectations, i am curious to see what route they take with the central love story of the show

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  11. I have been a silent reader mostly. But since the ending of the C-drama was mentioned i couldn't help but comment. I some how loved the ending of BBJX despite it being an open ending  (ofcourse there was a sequel, but that is besides the point). There are two kinds of open ending i feel - one which leans towards positive and another which leanz towards cluelessness. This one was towards the positive side with hope. One of the most anticipated scenes for me to see in this remake would be the ending scene because i would be very excited to see Lee Jun Ki in that avatar. I think he'd nail it with his persona and charm. But then i am not sure what kind of end these guys would go for cause there are significant difference btw thr Chinese and Korean version both story and character sketch wise...and open endings are not popular as well (even i like them only in exceptional cases like in BBJX). 

    Anyways i will not dwell on the ending when the whole show is in front of me. I ll just enjoy the awesome that is gonna come my way.

    Sorry for the stupid rant :P

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  12. A long incoherent rant on previous two episodes :

    Don't you just love when the heroine goes to the world's end (and quite literally in this one) to save the one she loves. (i love when both the protagonist of the show are such equals!) I guess that is what stood out the most for me in the past two episodes apart from Yeon Joo's heartbreak and Kang Chul's never ending tragedy *crie* Also am i the only one who didn't find the episode slow? I felt the pace was fine - as there was so much happening at each very moment leaving me wide eyed and open mouthed.

    Initially i thought Yeon Joo was back to Kang Chul's world because his life was in danger again and he needed to be saved...but the next episode the logic turned out to be that anybody can summon Yeon joo? You just need to ask for her? Makes sense. Before the reset it was just Kang Chul who knew her to the extent of wanting her...and now suddenly she has just too many people curious about her.

    I guess our OTP went through A LOT in terms of the wave of emotions. Yeon Joo - facing your husband in his freshly reset world where you are no more (or is she?) his heroine ... looking at him with those painful and longing eyes, but not finding the same longing in his eyes (reminds me of his eyes when she confessed in the jail *blissful times*). At the same time Kang Chul was absolutely shaken after finally finding the face he had been hunting for years -the person responsible for his misery, for his lonely and frightening nights. I think the writers did not explore his reaction to this revelation much, given how central it was to the Manhwa's hero? But i still like the silent moment Kang Chul had in the terrace, weeping by himself - underplayed but still tugs at the heart. Equally touching was Yeon Joo stroking his image from far in an attempt to console him.

    Then the frightening experience all together staying in that world for 3 days for Yeon Joo. I can only imagine the turmoil - emotional and otherwise. Hiding herself, the fear of being discovered, staying hungry, keeping herself away from Chul - i guess this was the only time i was praying that she goes back to her world and not stay back at Chul's. Just how embarrassing it was to be caught by that one person you are trying to hide from (and who means the world to you) and at a moment when you are pathetically desperate and at your low. I think that was the threshold for me in terms of seeing Yeon Joo in so much pain. I literally paused the screen for a while to take things in. It was all amusing that Yeon Joo readily agreed to go to jail. Not only for the food but also to prevent herself from facing Chul everytime. It's no surprise that she reached her breaking point when Chul nursed her wounds, ranting her heart out. Ack. Just a minute before she was fine and going about with he business so bravely, nonchalant to Chul's accusations/questions...it just had to end this way. Poor Kang Chul already having a hard time is so clueless. It's just too much information for him to process..to even comprehend i mean. I mean a visibly heartbroken girl crying to you can be awkwardly bizarre. I LOVED it how he does not turn her in. Somethings doesn't change even in the reset world. Like him denying that he is even remotely interested in her (remember the times he out rightly refused to admit she was beautiful. HAHA)

    But the biggest crisis had yet to hit Kang Chul. He is framed 2nd time in his life. The worst part is that even the people who never doubted his innocence before were now skeptical. It sucked that he had to witness the death of another of his loved one, let alone be accused for his murder....and that he died without knowing Kang Chul was actually innocent and he'd never know cause..well is there any afterlife concept in the webtoon world?

    But then Yeon Joo! YEON JOO! What a brave girl. I was blown away by her guts and courage fueled by her determination to protect Kang Chul (these two sigh). The risk taken is no joke. Checking into a motel with a gravely injured so called fugitive with the police tagging on and the confidence with which she exits the world all to save him. Just wow. It's interesting how she suffered all those days and yet never chose this way out to exit Chul's world. [ love the way how the kiss scene is shot...with the ring hanging in btw while they are kissing...so beautiful] I mean it's obvious she wanted to stay out of his way - but better said than done right? Also how she fights her dad and locks him up. To first come in terms with what happened to him and then trap him. i mean she fought her FATHER! she even scores one against the devil in Chul's world and manages to save Chul successfully (although unaware). You go girl! 

    And no i have no qualms that Kang Chul treats himself to recovery. He is the Kang Chul - the webtoon hero - he can do anything. It's a silver lining that Do yoon helped Kang Chul stay on the run - very touched by his loyalty. Atleast there is someone who is atleast trying to protect him in that world...i am sure even So hee would had she known. Recovered and cheerful Chul meets her again and in the same way as before after discharging from the hospital (somethings never change all over again). The heart was racing every-time he talked about things which only Chul from the pre-reset era knew. richard simmons. I was just hoping and rooting that he remembered her, inflating like a balloon in anticipation. But alas deflated at faster rate. Amidst that i really enjoyed the sweet moments they shared. Things these people do. Kang Chul going all the way for Yeon Joo - buying her clothes, shopping for grocery and having ice-cream in-spite of being on the run. However i missed the romantic Yeon Joo going moony eyed as she usually would with Kang Chul. Yet again another is twist is thrown into my face and i have absolutely no idea what is in store for us. So he knows what happened between them but does not remember - i am going to be super sad if he doesn't ever remember. He can't forget my favorite OTP moments come on :( 

    Kang Chul's world has changed so much since the last time. It's freaking scary that the world is now controlled by the villian.  Yet the there is somewhat balance of power if the super tablet is switched off, faceless dad is kept locked, and most importantly with Yeon Joo able to travel over worlds make huge differences. I am still up for the tough task she faces battling and protecting her father. But then, we see in the preview that Chul's crossing over to Yeon Joo's world - now how does that work? There are hell lot of questions in my mind - how is the villain able to control dad, being the most prominent one. Also confused about Dad's missing face. How is Kang Chul going to prove his innocence? Will he ever REMEMBER (pls this HAS to happen!) Please Seok Bom don't open that freaking door! (he is going to anyways). It's funny how nobody in Kang Chul's world is attempting to trace the villian who showed himself in front of the world killing dozens. I mean even as a lead to catch Chul, these guys could have hunted him down. Also Chul is fighting the villian as per the preview? but which world is that? I don't speculate this show, since that's a complete waste. Cause ultimately the show does a good job of explaining stuff and tying lose ends. So just trying to wait the week the out...shouldn't be difficult *errr*

    P.S. so is the webtoon released yet? Just how mind effed will the readers will be rofl.

     

     

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  13. My first post on this thread. It's a shame that it's only after more than half of the show is done with that i join this thread and i missed on discussing and reading stuff on some very important moments, interactions and alternate-universe dynamics. But then again, every episode is so dynamic - the whole game kind of changes every episode that i become totally incoherent. So hats off to people who have made this thread reach 570+ pages

    My two cents about the last two episodes :

    My very first favorite moment in the show was when Yeon Joo stabs Kang Chul to save his life. His eyes widen as he senses her presence - that moment onwards Kang Chul's chain of intrigue was initiated. He'd become curious of this women from that point onwards believing she is the key to his life. Such a poignant scene isn't it? Kang Chul remembers none of this. Yep. I am totally shaken by this fact, not only because of the romance bit but because of this very poignancy. It's moments like this made difference to him because at a time when his life was constantly threatened she saved him....saved despite of him being a mere character of webtoon. And to think he won't remember this kind of love which gave meaning to a life which is not his own to start of with is like....ah i just can't.

    But it turns out Kang Chul had no other choice? With an enemy out there who they know little about roaming around in Yeon Joo's world, there had to be a decision taken. How else would he protect Yeon Joo? How else would his friends survive in his world? With the ever dynamic rules of their worlds where they have no idea what consequences they have to face, this is price Chul has to pay to keep Yeon Joo alive. But then what about Yeon Joo? She'd remember everything and W will be all over her face in her world. People will talk about it...they'll talk about him. So even if Chul asks her to forget a mere manhwa character like him...it's better said than done. 

    Romance in this show is lovely and so well done. The heart just flutters every-time Chul kisses her forehead to calm her...more than her he is calming himself that she is still around him. It's all fine if she is just there and if he is able to see her. 

    I like how they built up the angst gradually. Right from assuring So Hee the marriage is fake and her importance in his life to later reseting the two months in his life. I absolutely love Yeon Joo's reactions in both the situations. She just stands there witnessing the whole thing saying nothing cause she understands the mess they are in. Later in the bit when Chul let's her go she listens to every word of him with her head down, weeping to herself maybe, and there is a silent understanding there. She lets every word sink in, understands the gravity of it, then lifts her head to look at Kang Chul walk away from her and goes back to her world to fix things. So where Kang Chul has decided to embrace his fate as it comes, Yeon Joo has accepted hers as well. 

    I like it how typical tropes are repackaged and presented with a twist, such that it becomes legitimized in the context of the show. So while i don't buy amnesia in any show, i am looking forward to it here and totally buying it here, cause it is logical when set in this world...context as Chul says. The angst continues every time Yeon Joo finds herself in front of a memory washed Chul - ack it's not even in her hands...the worlds wouldn't let her forget. That ring. Oh stop showing me Yeon Joo holding on to that ring. My heart cannot take it. It cannot take the fact that Chul hands her the ring totally unaware. (He HAS to get the memories back. Come on writers!)

    So apparently when everything is returning back to normal, with the plan Yeon Joo's dad has is set into motion, everything just blows up on his face....quite literally. God what DAFAQ just happened there? I wasn't prepared for this (since i am not into reading theories or spoiler for this show so that i can watch it with a fresh mind and be thrown off the edge, i didn't know if this was a probability...i always thought they'd take the easy way out and make that politician the accused). So now the antagonist has a face....it's Yeon Joo's father....and he is ruthlessly wicked (just how heartlessly did he kill all those people in the broadcast station!).... and Yeon Joo is doomed. So he can pretty much dimension travel between the worlds? Man that's scarier than before *yikes* So WHAT HAPPENS NOW?? Where does Yeon Joo fit in in all these. Why is she being dragged in yet again if Chul has stopped dreaming about her? Most importantly how's she gonna deal with facing an amnesiac husband and evil daddy? Wednesday where are you? 

     

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  14. Hahah. Let me join the fun too. 

    I am literally rolling on the floor. This one just threw me off guard. Bo gum's got S-W-A-G

    Those shades with the joseon era attire pfft. It's just recently that ve started following PBG so this one came as a total surprise... totally different side to him for me at least . So cute and dancing like there is no tomo:lol::lol::lol: above that bo gum's and jun hyeok's very own duet takes the cake. Can't wait to see their equation in the show bwahaha.

    Definitely a very smart and quirky way to promote the show

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