the8dark8angel

October 14, 2020

October 13, 2020

I like talk about events in ep "42 to 51" but your re-wach schedul not yet there , I wait till that time .

October 9, 2020

I think SY used WY as lover .

I think sy was in love with TH in island alredy but when th betrayed sy somthing snaped inside sy and that love she had for th faulsly shifted tward wy to coup with feeling guilty .

In episode 7 when wy know sy is woman and sepirated from each other how long wy and sy was together as man and woman ? just 5 min .!

but sy actions in yuan palace was like sy and wy spend yrs togethers as lovers .

when wy death news (Faulsly) given to sy , hey actions wasnt like someone that is in love and forget in 1 day in both .

when sy was drunk and sick wen she look at th saw him as wy , bq i think in these situation she can feel love for th but fool her self that he is wy .otherwise she must saw every men in palace as wy

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in the end i thin sy never was in love with wy and fooled and lie to herself to run from guilt.

And I think WY was in love with a man that happend to be woman . when she was acting as man and th still wasnt betayed her every time wy hug her sy didnt like it . in ep 4 wy offerd sy to sleep with him in his room and for me as a guy wy actions was disgusting. imagin wy offer BG sleep with him .

September 24, 2020

WY look happy but :

Spoiler

he dont know Sleeping with SY in that night will cost him :

1. lossing SY.

2. lossing his son and eventuly his sons life .

3. many goryo servents that hepled SY will die

4. his most trusted firends will die .

5. his own life .

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and more.

September 14, 2019

I dont know why but i cant bear too see jcw with other actress , for me jcw only meant to be with ha ji won . thease two (jcw&hjw) have spicial chemestry with together . . i hope in near future two cast rom-com together .

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September 11, 2019

On 4/29/2014 at 4:46 AM, pegster said:

About TH.
After watching EP50 with Csubs, I can safely say that TH did not act out of jealousy to kill WY like some people were saying.
Not once did he display any signs of jealousy throughout the episode, in fact, we can even see that he's found his deep love for Ki again.
When TH was finally able to sit down and think about the situation, the first thought that came to his mind was not to let anyone know, not to kill WY. If it was purely out of jealousy, then he should have immediately thought about killing WY instead of trying to hide the secret.
I know it's hard for most of us, but like I mentioned before, we really need consider the expectations of that era. This is not about TH getting angry at Ki for not telling him about MaHa, or even having had slept with WY. As most of us had predicted, this is not what TH cared about, he's more concerned about Ki's life. Do we really think that if someone finds out about MaHa being the Empresses son out of wedlock with another man, other than the Emperor, that nothing is going to happen to Ki? There is ED who is continually waiting for a chance to kill Ki, and we have the ML who's hiding in the dark looking for the same opportunity.
It's kind of like the situation with Ki sending MaHa out of the palace. Some people thought that was her being selfish, but really, is that not the best decision for MaHa then to keep him in the palace?
The same goes for TH deciding that he must kill everyone who knows this secret, EVEN if it's WY. (From the way he said that, it didn't seem like he wanted to kill WY, but that he had no choice, but to kill him.) He can not risk anyone else finding out to bring potential danger to SN. If Cruella was somehow about to find out, how does he know for sure someone else isn't going to have a slip of tongue and leak this another random person?
TH also knows that killing WY would hurt Ki as well, and she wouldn't approve of it, but again, in his mind, this is the only way to protect her, and he's willing to risk her hating him just so he can keep her safe.
In the end of the day, WY's group was the one who thought it was safe to talk about the secret out in the open. Who is there to blame? (yes, yes, I know the writers wrote it that way).
When TH found out from Cruella about how Tanasmirky found MaHa in the first place, the first thing he thought about was what Ki said to him when she returned, how she needs to revenge for those who died for her. He realizes that Ki had suffered the pain of losing a child, again he didn't show any signs of anger toward her, instead he sympathized with her, hurt to know that she had to go through that pain.
About WY, there's not too much to talk about.
Like we had all thought (or at least myself). He took the opportunity to save TH and Ki, and sent all those grains to the palace for the Yuan people, it was all a plan so that he can get his throne back. There's nothing wrong with that, he did what he had to do.
When he finally got his throne back, he was ready to leave behind everything that happened in Yuan in Yuan. He had EB and JK finish off whatever they needed to for their investigation of the Eagle Group and to pass everything over to Ki so she can do whatever she wants to do.
He's acheived what he needed to acheive, get his throne back so that he can go back to governing Goryeo, and to make it into a stronger country like he had promised Ki when she gave him TH's order to give him back the throne.
It was sad seeing him die, but he died willingly.
Two men, one is willing to kill for Ki, the other is willing to die for her.
Immediately after TH told him about MaHa, he knew there was no other way to secure Ki's safety, but for him to die. He pushed TH to kill him. TH wanted him to fight, even though the battle was already unfair, it seemed like TH wanted to at least see him fight, he didn't want to see WY giving up just like that for the woman he (TH) loves.
I do question that when TH asked WY if Ki was worth him giving up his life for, if at that time TH was thinking to himself whether he would be able to do the same, or if he had underestimated WY's love for Ki.
It was somewhat of the one and only man to man 'talk' TH and WY had. WY is declaring his love for Ki, but at the same time also using his own way to remind TH that he needs to not make her suffer.
About Ki.
Well Ki is torn between the two men. The man who she loved, and the man who she loves.
I agree that Ki still holds special feelings for WY, but I don't believe that to be love. People may argue that Ki never declared her love for either WY or TH, but there's a difference with how she expresses how she feels between two, at least at the current moment.
With WY she holds regrets, and remorse toward him. Her regrets are for Byul, their son who she couldn't protect, she blames herself for everything WY has suffered because she was the one who abandoned him. She feels even worst because she no longer loves him, and now he has to died in the hands of the man she loves.
I don't know how to describe it, but it's like she feels like she owes WY a debt. For MaHa, for everything he's done for her. She's not stupid, she knows what he's done out of his love for her, but there's no way for her to repay for his love.
When Ki held onto his dead body, not once did she mention anything about 'we'll meet again in our next lives', or 'I'll repay your love for me', nothing related to love. Instead, she said she'd remember and repay him for his kindness, because now in her heart, TH is the person who she wants to love now, and even in their next life, if there's one.
Ki and TH, what can I say. Now that she knows TH knows, and undrstands how much he's holding in and also suffering for her, she seems to be at a lost. TH doesn't want to ask her, or even let her know that he knows, worried about what Ki will think, and if it'll bring more pain to her having to talk about it. Ki probably feels that maybe if she brings it up, it'll hurt him even more.
It seems now both Ki and TH are able to understand each other, but just aren't expressing it outwardly. TH understands what Ki had to suffer through, and doesn't blame her for it. Ki understands why TH is trying to hide his knowledge from her even if it pains him.
We've finally reached that 'understanding' level, but neither of them are willing to speak up about it in fear that it would inflict more pain on the other. It's just a never ending cycle.
Does this post even make sense??? I'm suddenly feeling so lost!
I'll just look forward to tomorrow's episode to see what further tragedy awaits us. Oh...Damo ending is looking so good now...WHIB...classic...

exactly . for moment she asked what make you cant sleep (she tot he will tell her) but he respond im not feeling well bq sickness .

im waching ek ki 5yrs later . whan i was waching i my heart said ppl must missunderstood ki & th actions when they waching series live and i came to check what ppl said on 5yrs ago . im happy most off viewers didnt judje them blindly at that time.

March 24, 2019

previos video was part 2 . this one is part 1.

in previos video saw "2" in topleft of clip i tought its about season 2 empress ki .

March 23, 2019

2 hours ago, stroppyse said:

So, it's a bit of a recap of the romance between Seung Nyang and Ta Hwan. The video itself is called The World's Most Persistent Man 2, so it might be a series of men in dramas who are persistent about winning the love of the women they love?

And, the writing on the video is a combination of lines that SN or TH is saying, plus comments about the scene or the direction of the romance. For instance, at 3:30, the commentary caption says "Rejected again Ta Hwan, will he give up like this?"

Hope this is enough of an explanation for you. If you're still curious about the clip and can't find a subbed version somewhere, I can try to translate the clip for you, but it may take a bit of time since I have other stuff going on right now. If you do want me to translate, please tag me or send me a PM.

thanx 4 explaining .

March 23, 2019

hi this video published yesterday 22 march 2019 by mbc . i cant read korean and google translator dont make any sence . can somone explain what is about ? writing on video what says?

March 23, 2019

hi this video published yesterday 22 march 2019 by mbc . i cant read korean and google translator dont make any sence . can somone explain what is about ? writing on video what says?

February 22, 2019

Hi . In this show WY died 3 times (2 of them was false) . every time after SY know about it she totaly forget him after 1-2 day .(from her actions its like a heavy burden lifted from her shulders) . bcz of these i said she never loved WY and TH was hers first and only love . If someones loved one dies she/he cant forget her/him in years and cant act normal , he/she always feels like something wrong in her/his life . (if she/he be in real and pure love )

Imagine this . if any point of show WY kills TH for any reason (even before sy being cosort or even for saving her life) . is she ever forgive wy ?

If any of u can forget about you loved one after 1-2 day and act like nothing happend , in that case yes SY loved Wy sooo much .

cheers.

February 22, 2019

Hi . In this show WY died 3 times (2 of them was false) . every time after SY know about it she totaly forget him after 1-2 day .(from her actions its like a heavy burden lifted from her shulders) . bcz of these i said she never loved WY and TH was hers first and only love . If someones loved one dies she/he cant forget her/him in years and cant act normal , he/she always feels like something wrong in her/his life . (if she/he be in real and pure love )

Imagine this . if any point of show WY kills TH for any reason (even before sy being cosort or even for saving her life) . is she ever forgive wy ?

If any of u can forget about you loved one after 1-2 day and act like nothing happend , in that case yes SY loved Wy sooo much .

cheers.

February 11, 2019

I was reading some of comment on ek main thread and i think some veiwer are confiused about some scenes of series .

1 -some people saying bcz of sy and taltal in some scenes stare at each other then they love each other . they not . tt is sy`s teacher and always sy respect him . tt story is little diffrent . when sy come to palace 2nd time as consort tt tought only reason is revenge but in ep36 when tt explains plan for war with youn chol to th , th tells to sy to leave palace sy refiuses , th said they maybe lost the battle and sy will be in denger , sy respons how can i let you to face that situation(face enemy when th lost battle) alone and save myself we fight together and we win . in that moment tt look at sy and smiled . in this moment some veiwers tought tt loves sy , they wrong , smile wasnt for sy , he smiled bcz relized that sy didnt come to palace only for revenge , she`s come bcz she is love with empror . after ep36 there many moments sy and th had problem with each other and only taltal came to them and remide them thair loved one , a) so many time tt reminded sy to she must be greatefull that what emperor did to her and she must be in th side and she must not angry about emperors killing wy and other ..... b)when th punished sy and send her to temple only tt came and reminded th that if u want true loyality sy must be ur side and bring her back .

tt always was there to remind sy & th thair love in bad situations.

its not ok to lower taltal`s nobel personality with these thoughts that he must have affair with sy and run away with her .

2-some people think wy was sy`s first love but after waching all of episodes we know her first and last and true love was ony th (from ep4) . even accepting hairpin from wy wasnt from love , it was like a command from her king and bcz of respect sy had for wy she finily accept it .

for me this is the reson wy`s life after knowing sy become so pityful .

3-some people many time asked "why so many hate wy" , personaly i dont hate him but i understand why they hate him a} in first 1-6 episodes wy was in love with a boy ( when sy was boy) . we know in reality he was a girl but veiwers when saw wy huging boy sy left and right , bring him to his room to sleep at ep1 , telling boy sy to sleep in his room but sy just wanted to be with th after horserace at beach ep4. this actions of wy was disgusting for many viewers (for me was sweet and funny) . b) every time when sy & th relation going to be happy the moment wy appears happines goes away . in the beach after race - in palace when sy was maid - after sy became consor - end ep49 when wy saved th&sy lifes - .....and. many other .spacialy for sy-th shipers wy was symbol of sadness for th-sy relation .c) for some ppl wy charecter was boaring bcz he didnt had up&down in his personality and he was same as always :)) . d) ......

4- in ep34 when she finaly went to th`s chamber (olala secne) . some ppls said she done it bcz of resposibility as consort , no they wrong . we all know sy had unconditional love for th from ep4 . but bcz of her father she blocked that love until ep 33 . in ep34 before olala she is siting on chair , shes tuching her lips , her eyes are red , her hand is betwin her legs , her body is hot and gathered around . (in this secne director is so tricky) in that secne her body and heart want to have olala with her love one , her body need to have olala with th but her mind wont alow it but finaly heart wins battle against mind and she calls hondana . in bath shes woried
and i think its about her virginity ( in olala she segest to put out light bcz of that) . in bath hondana smiles bcz even she relized whats going on with her from sy`s body language . .

February 11, 2019

I was reading some of comment and i think some veiwer are confiused about some scenes of series .

1 -some people saying bcz of sy and taltal in some scenes stare at each other then they love each other . they not . tt is sy`s teacher and always sy respect him . tt story is little diffrent . when sy come to palace 2nd time as consort tt tought only reason is revenge but in ep36 when tt explains plan for war with youn chol to th , th tells to sy to leave palace sy refiuses , th said they maybe lost the battle and sy will be in denger , sy respons how can i let you to face that situation(face enemy when th lost battle) alone and save myself we fight together and we win . in that moment tt look at sy and smiled . in this moment some veiwers tought tt loves sy , they wrong , smile wasnt for sy , he smiled bcz relized that sy didnt come to palace only for revenge , she`s come bcz she is love with empror . after ep36 there many moments sy and th had problem with each other and only taltal came to them and remide them thair loved one , a) so many time tt reminded sy to she must be greatefull that what emperor did to her and she must be in th side and she must not angry about emperors killing wy and other ..... b)when th punished sy and send her to temple only tt came and reminded th that if u want true loyality sy must be ur side and bring her back .

tt always was there to remind sy & th thair love in bad situations.

its not ok to lower taltal`s nobel personality with these thoughts that he must have affair with sy and run away with her .

2-some people think wy was sy`s first love but after waching all of episodes we know her first and last and true love was ony th (from ep4) . even accepting hairpin from wy wasnt from love , it was like a command from her king and bcz of respect sy had for wy she finily accept it .

for me this is the reson wy`s life after knowing sy become so pityful .

3-some people many time asked "why so many hate wy" , personaly i dont hate him but i understand why they hate him a} in first 1-6 episodes wy was in love with a boy ( when sy was boy) . we know in reality he was a girl but veiwers when saw wy huging boy sy left and right , bring him to his room to sleep at ep1 , telling boy sy to sleep in his room but sy just wanted to be with th after horserace at beach ep4. this actions of wy was disgusting for many viewers (for me was sweet and funny) . b) every time when sy & th relation going to be happy the moment wy appears happines goes away . in the beach after race - in palace when sy was maid - after sy became consor - end ep49 when wy saved th&sy lifes - .....and. many other .spacialy for sy-th shipers wy was symbol of sadness for th-sy relation .c) for some ppl wy charecter was boaring bcz he didnt had up&down in his personality and he was same as always :)) . d) ......

4- in ep34 when she finaly went to th`s chamber (olala secne) . some ppls said she done it bcz of resposibility as consort , no they wrong . we all know sy had unconditional love for th from ep4 . but bcz of her father she blocked that love until ep 33 . in ep34 before olala she is siting on chair , shes tuching her lips , her eyes are red , her hand is betwin her legs , her body is hot and gathered around . (in this secne director is so tricky) in that secne her body and heart want to have olala with her love one , her body need to have olala with th but her mind wont alow it but finaly heart wins battle against mind and she calls hondana . in bath shes woried
and i think its about her virginity ( in olala she segest to put out light bcz of that) . in bath hondana smiles bcz even she relized whats going on with her from sy`s body language . .

February 9, 2019

there are 2 kind of caring for someone .1- caring by heart that is called "loving" . 2-caring by mind that is called "respecting & liking".
after waching all episods we finily know that what was defrence betwin caring sy to th & wy .

wy : sy always respected wy and like him as his lord . even when wy gave sy the hairpin bcz of respect for her king she finily accepted that ( and sacrefice felling to th).

th : sy has been love with th from ep4 . but bcz of th lying about her father she blocked her felling in her heart by her mind . but finily heart wins battle against mind .

i remember in secret garden series hjw charecter said "some times a person hate otherone to the death but meanwile she\he is in love with that person"

after witnesing events happend betwin sy th in last 10 eps and after every event sy easily forgives th , its bcz she has unconditional love for th.

when sy become servent in palace some times when she is drunk and sick , she saw th as wy if u remember . why she saw th as wy ? why not golta or dokman or other males ? can u anwser this?

in ep 33 she saied that she starting to feel afraid . bcz when th wanted to kiss her , she wanted to th kiss her too but her mind (bcz of past events) wont alow her to close her eyes .
she start to afraid that she may not to block her feeling that started from ep4.

when sy crying over wy dead body , she said he finily freed from that cursed relation with her and said
to in next life forget her , bcz if these events repet 10000 times again she wont be able to fall in love with him (just repect as king) and she will always fall in love with th even he has many flaws.

February 9, 2019