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42 minutes ago, Lmangla said:

iota of an enterprenuial spirit or sign of leadership. instead, he is so passive that he makes the perfect corporate employee who will happily take orders from managers and execute. 

In one of the interviews with Next the venture company, they decided to invest in Twist because of his programme that they never thought could work. SR also told her father that without him there is no Twist. I don't think the producers and writer are able to draw a lonely technical wiz out of HR.
He was rejected by his mother and was brought up as her nephew, his uncle swindled him off his inheritance and he was kicked out of SR's house by KN. He has a big baggage. I thought he was a sullen young man, which I am guessing is the writer's aim.

 I don't like Yoon A, she reminds me of the woman whose father swindled Miss M's mother. Not a criminal but insincere, being friendly to SR while inwardly envious of her - her privileged life and HR- by the voiceovers.

I think this is an angsty show, so I am ready to flit in and out. I am one who believes the home environment impacts a person's character a lot. HR grew up in a few environments; his grandmother's house, orphanage, SR's house and then on his own. I did not catch how old he was when he moved to the roof top house.

 

When the Gangster asked KJ his age, he said 30. So the four of them are around that age. OK and KN has to be in their 50's.

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So Haru is a child from rape, or at least that is what it looks like. Which I guess explains why she didn't want to raise him. However, it does not excuse all the other selfish decisions she has made. 

 

I understand wanting to keep the creep away from Haru, however he is in his 30s. If he was in college or younger then I could maybe understand, but at 30...nope not a good enough reason to ruin all these lives. 

 

Also, HO might be doing to protect Haru, but KN is def doing it to force them apart and Sori to stay close to home. His reasons are purely selfish. Have they told us why KN doesn't like Haru? 

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Looks like the momentum for Love Twist is gathering some steam too with ratings of 14.1% yesterday, more or less similar to Red Shoes at the same stage (i.e. Episode 20 thereabout).

 

By Episode 40, Red Shoes had 16.5%, which then increased to 17.5% by Episode 50. That remained as the highest until Episode 86 when it went up to 18.6%. Only in the final 10 episodes, the ratings went beyond 19% to reach 19.2% (Episode 97) and 19.6% (Finale).

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5 hours ago, Newbie21SG said:

Looks like the momentum for Love Twist is gathering some steam too with ratings of 14.1% yesterday, more or less similar to Red Shoes at the same stage (i.e. Episode 20 thereabout).

 

By Episode 40, Red Shoes had 16.5%, which then increased to 17.5% by Episode 50. That remained as the highest until Episode 86 when it went up to 18.6%. Only in the final 10 episodes, the ratings went beyond 19% to reach 19.2% (Episode 97) and 19.6% (Finale).

Why was Red shoes so popular for the later episodes? I think it's the white washing the two bad people and making her dead husband a bad man. True love forever. :smirk:

 

The preview for Twist shows Sori's wedding to KJ. Poor girl.

 

 

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13 hours ago, maribella said:

Why was Red shoes so popular for the later episodes? I think it's the white washing the two bad people and making her dead husband a bad man. True love forever. :smirk:

 

The preview for Twist shows Sori's wedding to KJ. Poor girl.

 

 

 

The love triangle started to appear then plus some real revenge storyline. That made ppl started to notice (I think).

I am gonna bing a few episodes in the weekend before work starts on Monday, hopefully can get up to Ep 10. Still early days in the show, so, I am not too concerned about catching up, which I will eventually will.

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So it seems from boy gold digger has some money saved away but investing in his parents is definitely going to fail. Also, if they have been bums this entire time than how have they been paying for things? I understand they "borrowed" things from Ok Hee, but what about money for food and stuff. 

 

Gold digger boy and girl trapping each other. :joy:

 

This lie is so stupid. Now KN did tell OH the truth, but she is not going to believe him. I think at this point HO is going to lie out of spite, because she blames OH for her rape. However, the fact that KN lets this lie go on, is all on him. Especially when Haru and Sori find out. 

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3 hours ago, Newbie21SG said:

 

The love triangle started to appear then plus some real revenge storyline. That made ppl started to notice (I think).

I am gonna bing a few episodes in the weekend before work starts on Monday, hopefully can get up to Ep 10. Still early days in the show, so, I am not too concerned about catching up, which I will eventually will.

Who has a revenge? 
I like the main couple. When they decided to go ahead despite their parents objection, I like that.

 

So what is the logic for the two adulterers to lie about HR's paternity? That the father is a low life will destroy HR? But breaking his relationship is better? If the two did not test their DNAs, then they are fools and deserved to be apart.

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21 hours ago, maribella said:

Who has a revenge? 
I like the main couple. When they decided to go ahead despite their parents objection, I like that.

 

So what is the logic for the two adulterers to lie about HR's paternity? That the father is a low life will destroy HR? But breaking his relationship is better? If the two did not test their DNAs, then they are fools and deserved to be apart.

Since it's dramaland you know the characters are dumb down in order for the drama to have 100 episodes. This is why I suspend disbelief in watching dramas because that's the only way to not get frustrated at the obvious. But at the same time there are very naïve individuals on this earth who would just trust a DNA test giving to them by a family member and not really think to do one themselves. There are all types of personalities on this earth, though it may be few there is always that minority that would not double check certain information they receive. Though this may seem unrealistic, I've been on this earth long enough to know that these types of people exist.  :joy:

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42 minutes ago, missyjojo88 said:

Since it's dramaland you know the characters are dumb down in order for the drama to have 100 episodes. This is why I suspend disbelief in watching dramas because that's the only way to not get frustrated at the obvious. But at the same time there are very naïve individuals on this earth who would just trust a DNA test giving to them by a family remember and not really think to do one themselves. There are all types of personalities on this earth, though it may be few there is always that minority that would not double check certain information they receive. Though this may seem unrealistic, I've been on this earth long enough to know that these types of people exist.  :joy:

I know kdramas have a whole set of laws, natural or legal. But it's good for the brain to keep questioning so it balances the bad part when kdramas give us strange answers. :)
 

More questions: HO is from a rich family, why not tell her parents about the rape? They could pay some gangster to break his legs. I would.

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8 minutes ago, maribella said:

I know kdramas have a whole set of laws, natural or legal. But it's good for the brain to keep questioning so it balances the bad part when kdramas give us strange answers. :)
 

More questions: HO is from a rich family, why not tell her parents about the rape? They could pay some gangster to break his legs. I would.

but it's  HO is not from a rich family, it's OH THE WIfe soon ex wife,  WHO IS FROM A RICH FAMILY 

So HR father is the ganster??

 

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1 minute ago, marrez1 said:

but it's  HO is not from a rich family, it's OH THE WIfe soon ex wife,  WHO IS FROM A RICH FAMILY 

So HR father is the ganster??

 

No HO the mistress is from a rich family but fell into bad times. OH is from a poor family and KN married her because he pitied her - said HO.

 

Yes the gangster is definitely the father. HO said HR has his genes but not the father. Sounds just like her.

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have watched up to ep 10 so far and here are my impressions -- this is same category as red shoes "I have no idea why I am watching" :lol: difference is the leads are already boring me and the romeo juliet vibe just gets a meh from me. neither feel pity or impending doom for their eventual breakup. so skipping scenes of these two rather bland characters. the negative characters are the real draw of the show. you can hate them, despise them but they are much more clearly drawn out. 

 

I am having a tough time keeping the names of people apart and so sticking with nicknames 

so pork mom (of sori) is supposed to be nice but her being such a busybody just made me eye roll. so it really did make me wonder why she is so involved in her friends lives. does she not have any sense of boundaries? why does she get such a smile from having leech friends? at one point song mom (of haru) asks if pork mom was showing off that she is rich now and I really did wonder the same. she knows that fish mom and family are leeches but she seems to really value them. umm, why??????? there is nice and there is stupid. pork mom is weird where she is happy to be used. strange. 

 

so it really made me wonder if the cheating couple would be so serious if pork mom wasn't poking her nose in as she wants to 'save' her friend from another bad relationship. first, if song mom wants to see another idiot, that is her choice. pork mom doesn't need to vet when song mom does not even care for her opinion. instead, we have pork mom being insistent that she must know where song mom lives and how she is living. it is clear that pork dad is a habitual cheater and pork mom knows about it and is very nonchalant about it. perhaps, it was always just escorts and so she didn't think it was anything to worry about? pork dad seems to have treated this as a casual kind of hookup, fun affair. would it have fizzled out on its own if no one knew about it? 

 

song mom is a more complex character. she is so hardened and all about self-preservation (financial security) that she says that even if she was being beaten, she at least had a 10 bedroom house. so she jumps from an abusive marriage to the arms of this pork dad. perhaps it was meant to be a fling and just fun. however, when he asks her to move back home, she assumes it is far more serious and jumps to get a fresh start. so we have two different motivations -- pork dad who actually has no intentions of quitting his marriage and song mom who thinks that this affair is more than just a fling. did pork intend to set her up as his mistress? or he just moved with his feelings without a thought or a plan in his head? 

 

fish family are another set of opportunists. fish mom and dad feel conflicted about the affair but they want the well-being of their son first. so they don't want him to lose the job. he doesn't care about what pork dad does as he knows that keeping his mouth shut is the way to go. however, he is not above stirring the pot and putting a divide between haru and sori. 

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In terms of So Ri and Ha Ru this is how I see it: So Ri is the only child from a rich family so she tends to be spoiled. The fact that Ha Ru seems to be her first love makes her have a very rosy perspective on love being like a fairytale because she doesn't have a baggage that comes with past relationships. Things came easily for her so she hasn't experience the ups and downs of life since things were naturally handed to her growing up. This is why she is all about following her heart and doesn't really reflect on the downside of her situation with Ha Ru. She lives a privilege life and so she is very naïve in thinking love is going to be enough for her and Ha Ru to have happy ending when in fact love comes with a lot of heartache, pain and challenges. And sometimes love does not conquered. So So Ri being a young adult believes that as long as her and Ha Ru love each other, everything will be okay.

 

Ha Ru on the other hand comes from a background of instability and brokenness. Feeling like his mother has abandon him and not knowing his father makes him feel like someone without a root. So the time he spent with So Ri and her mother Ok Hee made him feel loved and a belonging that he never experience with his own family. Yes his character comes across very down or almost somber, but that's because he is always expecting for things to go wrong in his life because this has been a pattern in his past. But So Ri to him is that one person that loves him despite the fact that he feels like he has nothing to offer, but from So Ri's perspective she sees someone very gifted and special. This is why So Ri is willing to leave everything behind to go with him. From Ha Ru's perspective So Ri is like a breath of fresh air to a cruel world. So their love seems to be a result of life circumstances and needs to be tested for authenticity because Ha Ru even said to his mom if she hadn't abandon him may be he wouldn't have met So Ri and falling in love with her.  

 

This is why I am very much anticipating the drama that is coming from the big lie. It's going to break the rosy glass that comes with being naïve about love when it comes to So Ri. It will also reaffirm to Ha Ru that nothing good ever comes out of his life since this will mean that he cannot have that one thing (Sori) that makes him happy despite So Ri making him believe that this time will be different. This will be the beginning of the trials to their love and the test of time will prove if it was a love based purely on circumstances of life or a genuine love that can weather all storms, tribulations, and trials.

 

So if the writers are going where I think they are going, it makes sense to why they wrote the main characters like So Ri and Ha Ru the way they did because there is going to be a strong contrast to how they were as a naïve foolish in experience couple, to learning about patients, maturity, anger, bitterness, hate, perseverance, and anything else that comes with their love being tested. For me if I were a writer, I would write Ha Ru to become vengeful after feeling abandon by the only good thing in his life which is So Ri.  On the other hand, So Ri's rosy world will now be shattered and she will need to learn to see the world from Ha Ru's perspective. This may be the only thing that will help her understand what Ha Ru is going through once he feels like she betrayed him and didn't trust in their love. I think it's through these dark times and perseverance, their love will become genuine and strong if they can let go of the anger and hate for each other due to outside forces keeping them apart. So yes the main couple comes across boring and lacking in sense, but this is the fruit of immaturity. But once they become mature and experience adult things, it's either going to break them or refine their love for each other. 

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2 hours ago, missyjojo88 said:

So yes the main couple comes across boring and lacking in sense, but this is the fruit of immaturity. But once they become mature and experience adult things, it's either going to break them or refine their love for each other.

great points. haru is more interesting when he actually shows much emotion but sori -- shaking my head. yea, such immaturity and rosy eyed view is annoying. both of them together have the blandest of vibes and it is just meh. am all for their hearts being broken and reality setting in. maybe then, their relationship will actually have some zing and be interesting enough to watch.

 

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right now, I just keep fast forwarding their scenes as it is a snooze. this is one of those dramas where the leads are just not my cup of tea and my gut says that they most likely won't grow on me going forward either. to be honest, am disappointed because I liked the actress previous role in 'be my dream family' -- she and her pairing with the editor was one of my faves in that drama. but thats okay, there are other characters and messes in this one to keep me interested. we can have all different experiences on the same drama. :) 

 

so I have caught up on ep 11-20 and I am intrigued by the parents mess and what happened all those years ago. so song mom's perspective is interesting and complicated and she is turning out to be an interesting character. she is immature but has also gone through a lot. from her view, she has a difficult relationship with haru but she put in as much as she could. she resented him as a child of rape and the ensuing humiliation. she endured domestic violence just to send him money for his university. song mom sounded super absurd when she explained her idea to share like a data plan -- that did make me laugh. however, it also shows that she is a pragmatist. she has no wish to disrupt their lives and thinks that she can hang out in the background. even pork dad is all for it. maybe it was because of the previous affairs that he had and so both think that pork mom will be fine with and will just close her eyes like before? 

 

pork mom goes from having a disease of sharing (as others call it) to having grudges and actually counting every favor she got and received. so then none of that giving or sharing was from the heart right? who on earth keeps tabs for so long? this was more like a ledger of deeds. will she turn villain? will she go on the revenge path? pork mom is taking some knocks because she assumed that both she and pork dad had this grand love affair and he went against his parents for her. turns out he has some sympathy disease and he felt sorry for her. she wasn't his first choice or love. so did he marry her as he felt that he had no options or the option he truly wanted -- song mom? and why didn't he make the move on song mom?

 

wonder why he resented haru from the beginning? did he feel that haru was the reason he couldn't get together with song mom? it felt a bit ironic that sori also sees this as another typical fling of pork dad. just as she claims that she and haru have a love lasting 18 years and therefore not fleeting, in some ways, it is the same for pork dad and song mom. they have had this thing/connection years ago and now it has come back to bite them. so it will be interesting to see next week and why song mom thinks these two ruined her life and trajectory. 

 

On 1/7/2022 at 8:55 AM, youactlikeicare said:

I understand wanting to keep the creep away from Haru, however he is in his 30s. If he was in college or younger then I could maybe understand, but at 30...nope not a good enough reason to ruin all these lives. 

 

Also, HO might be doing to protect Haru, but KN is def doing it to force them apart and Sori to stay close to home. His reasons are purely selfish. Have they told us why KN doesn't like Haru? 

actually think that she is doing it to protect herself as well. she seemed genuinely frightened and might be still suffering traumatic memory from the stalking in addition to the rape. so she knows that if he enters their life, he will destroy both of them. she told pork dad that she will kill him and herself if she has to. she seemed to really mean it. she sounded like an animal pushed against a corner and is already thinking on the lines of justifiable homicide types. basically kill or be killed... 

 

On 1/8/2022 at 7:27 PM, maribella said:

I know kdramas have a whole set of laws, natural or legal. But it's good for the brain to keep questioning so it balances the bad part when kdramas give us strange answers. :)
 

More questions: HO is from a rich family, why not tell her parents about the rape? They could pay some gangster to break his legs. I would.

so we have to look at what was the culture in that time in regards to perceptions about rape and how was the victim treated. song mom says times have changed and she would be now willing to charge him with rape. so at that time, she may not have felt like she could. look at her family's reaction -- rather than get the police, they bury the pregnancy by registering haru as her nephew. haru said that he was forced to call her aunt by his grandmother. so if others knew who he was, song mom would be less desirable candidate for marriage. then she jumped on the first guy she could to move abroad to build a fresh new life for herself. she could not care for haru in the initial years because she would have had to disclose to that abusive husband who he was. once he knew, it was another reason to beat her up -- that is implied by her in one scene. 

 

so we have to place her story within those kind of cultural lens and context -- what is the attitude towards rape and the victim? how was it many years ago? how has it changed over the last few decades? did victims and their families feel free to report the crime or were they afraid that it would be turned against them? here, song mom flees the country in some sense in order to escape her past. in red shoes, hee kyung lived with her rapist because she felt she had no choice and then abandoned her kids. even after she told gemma, lets not forget that atrocious scene in the last episode where gemma still beamed brightly at photo of dead rapist shoe dad. (just makes me eye roll to even remember that atrocity). 

 

in regards to her family's finances -- it seems that soon after song mom became miss korea, her family basically lost it all. fish mom says that song mom was working at a bank after the pagent win. why would a pagent queen work at a bank when she could have married some fellow chaebol? also, as a wedding gift to pork mom, she gave a set of spoons she won as miss korea. not new spoons or gifts but something she already had. so it looks like song mom and her family at that stage had already been in reduced circumstances. 

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