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9 minutes ago, jacquelinetan said:

People who do not have happy marriage just want to destroy another. Personal note. It is all about power. Wang Xuan is still a daughter of the Wang family hence Xiao Qi is the son in law of that family holding absolute military power. Empress Dowager does not want anyone especially a daughter from the Wang family to hold more power than she does.

 

I just loved how Wang Xuan told her that she had followed the Auntie Empress' advice and let go of a girly romance and settled in to a marital bliss with Xiao Qi. She even quoted a love poetry that Auntie Empress had embroidered into a hanky. "I know your secret too".

 

Its ridiculous I think, in the past the empress dowager agree to married Wang Xuan and Xiao Qi,but know her want to separate them? 

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Everybody's main problem with XQ is plain old jealousy   He is a commoner, actually even lower in their society as he is an orphan. So they would place him just one step above their animals

Totally agree! At this point, I feel like she doesn't even deserve XQ.   In one of the eps, they had a moment together and she asks him, Will you change? And XQ basically responds that he ha

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2 hours ago, jacquelinetan said:

It is sad that Wang Xuan was working really hard to settle her parents' misunderstanding/problem. It was going well in her mind when the family of 4 shared a day together and when she learned of the good news that she was pregnant, she wanted to share that good news on her birthday. Like a double celebration.

 

She gave some hint of the secret when she told Xiao Qi that her mother would like a grand daughter that looked like Wang Xuan while she would like a chubby baby that looked like Xiao Qi.

 

I believe he knew that his wife drinks a lot when she is upset. He may be annoyed to think it was Zidan who had upset his wife but later when she woke up she told him she was drinking thinking of her parents' problem. True to her words, Zidan is no longer in her radar.

 

Furthermore, his wife is kind of "huggy" when she is drunk so he probably wants all that to himself. He was pretty pleased looking and stroking his wife hair before she woke up.

Fate plays  cruel jokes on Awu.In the past she and zidan had won the promise of the emperor to be married.Her MIL the emperor's favorite concubine had blessed the supposed union.Yet all her happiness came to naught.Again fate makes a mockery of her efforts to get the heart's desire. The trials for the girl never ends.Forced marriage,kidnapping,being thrown of a bridge,held hostage,assassination attempts,miscarriage the list just goes on.Yet she survives and her her wits get razor sharp after each event.She is truly the wonder woman with stylish capes.

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59 minutes ago, Fenny Liong said:

 

A little bit confuse..why want causing a rift between them? I know xiao qi has military power,but Wang Xuan? I just know that her father has power not her..

The dowager empress knows that Awu is capable (e.g. she managed to defeat Jianing Wang and she played a big part in defeating the 2nd prince). Awu & XQ are this power couple and together they can basically achieve anything, incl. snatching the throne. So the dowager empress is trying to break them up to reduce the perceived thread for her son. 

 

She agreed to the union previously because she thought that XQ will obey the Wang clan and reinforce their military power. But she now knows that both XQ and Awu have a mind of their own and can't be controlled. 

 

Another reason why the dowager empress is against XQ is because he suggested to the emperor to investigate the former emperor's death. The emperor agreed but because the dowager empress had a hand in the murder, she is strongly against the investigation. XQ also gained the emperor's trust, which made the dowager empress wary, as this will increase XQ's influence over her son (and reduces her own influence over him). 

 

2 hours ago, gingerchews said:

 

Ahhh! I noticed that too! When I first saw that scene, I thought it was slightly out of character as we've never seen him so noticeably annoyed with her before. But maybe he's annoyed because she's drunk again and is hurting her own health by drinking so much. Because as soon as XQ picked her up to bring her back to their rooms, the maid asked "Do you think the general is mad?" (probably asking what we're all thinking) and Yu Xiu answered back with a smile: "The general doesn't have the heart (to be mad at Awu)." 

 

Maybe this is the director's way of showing that their relationship isn't perfect, that there are moments when you get slightly annoyed with the other person but you still love them (especially when you see them hurting themselves with a bad habit, such as binge drinking).

 

I was also thinking maybe a scene was cut and we missed an argument? Before this scene, we saw that Awu tried to visit Zi Dan to check up on his wound. However, she was prevented from going in by the Crown Princess. The Yuzhang household steward told the general that Awu came back but was upset (because she wasn't allowed to go inside to see Zi Dan). Then the general went and found her by their house pond and the scene cuts. Maybe they had a slight argument about Zi Dan (as we know the general is slightly jealous of their previous relationship) and because of that, he thought she was drinking because she missed/was sad about Zi Dan?

I share your views. I also thought it was out of character. The way it was edited. It could be your second scenario whereby he thought that she was thinking about Zidan again (like the first time she got drunk) and was sad that she wasnt allowed to see Zidan earlier in the day. He also had a tough day in court with all the politicking. So probably all these factors together made him a bit agitated. 

 

3 hours ago, hallee said:

@Polly OhEmGee! So there is one more monster out there to hurt Awu! Thanks so much for constantly giving updates and spoilers...it truly helps a lot in watching those advance raw episodes! :hooray2:

No problem at all. Sometimes I'm afraid that I'm revealing too much, and spoiling your fun. Just post any questions and I'll try to answer if I know. 

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16 minutes ago, Fenny Liong said:

 

Its ridiculous I think, in the past the empress dowager agree to married Wang Xuan and Xiao Qi,but know her want to separate them? 

Empress then was doing her brother's bidding in persuading Wang Xuan to marry Xiao Qi. It was her own folly trying to get her son under Wang Xuan's skirt and 2nd prince ruined their plans by sending Miss Xie in instead. Wang Lin had no choice but to offer his daughter to the next best candidate, the one who hold military power after being made a "wang". Xiao Qi is a self made man.

 

Now, that her son is the reigning Monarch she is not happy of someone holding more power than her (her son). Watch how the two siblings talk not like family but enemies. Wang Lin called his own nephew an imbecile not fit to rule while dearest sister told him that he is a man with no family ties.

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All this talk of advanced episodes makes want to binge watch the raw episodes but I must be strong :Fist1:

 

I have to say I find the General Song’s actor much more attractive than I did in Joy of Life lol but then again Xiao’s people are pretty attractive in their armour and general competences. 
 

This drama is absolutely gorgeous, I keep coming back to the horse riding scenes of ep 13, just beautiful. I hope those quieter scenes come up a few times as a breather got out couple cause RickRoll'D is going to be real for a long time. 
 

I want to ask for those in the know, how’s the rating/reception in China for this drama going? All I saw in passing is that’s it’s trending on Weibo

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30 minutes ago, tazmin said:

@tazmin

I want to ask for those in the know, how’s the rating/reception in China for this drama going? All I saw in passing is that’s it’s trending on Weibo

 

im not 100% sure (my chinese is not great but i do follow the drama on weibo for spoilers) and my general understanding is that the drama isn't really resonating with chinese audiences as most of them complained about ZZYs age and her playing a character thats supposedly 15. 

 

a few days ago, the drama was trending on weibo but it wasnt for a good reason. at least, from what i saw - in one of the episodes, ZZY was wearing sneakers and production didnt catch the mistake. so the production company issued an apology.

 

again, i dont read chinese so plz correct me if im wrong!

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1 hour ago, tazmin said:

All this talk of advanced episodes makes want to binge watch the raw episodes but I must be strong

 

I have to say I find the General Song’s actor much more attractive than I did in Joy of Life lol but then again Xiao’s people are pretty attractive in their armour and general competences. 
 

This drama is absolutely gorgeous, I keep coming back to the horse riding scenes of ep 13, just beautiful. I hope those quieter scenes come up a few times as a breather got out couple cause RickRoll'D is going to be real for a long time. 
 

I want to ask for those in the know, how’s the rating/reception in China for this drama going? All I saw in passing is that’s it’s trending on Weibo

don't binge, you'll have to wait for a week for more episodes if you do! 

 

hahahaha i think it's because his hair in Joy of Life look kind of...questionable, the lighting isn't as good either.

 

It wasn't recieve too well with initial broadcast due to age of the entire cast + story (they expected more due to zzy participation/investing + investment level + production team, smarter schemes, less tropey plot), but there's some that end up liking the otp and the acting. It's probably the webdrama drawing the most attention right now, tv dramas have two well rated and reasonably popular poverty related dramas, but those have really different target audience.

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Personally, watching drama is all about the entertainment. No need to have a course in dissection on what it is in the real world.

 

I took note of the change in dynamics for Xiao Qi and Zi Dan. Zi Dan finally acknowledge that Xiao Qi is the one who always rescues Wang Xuan as he told her that "Your hero has returned". Xiao Qi said he is thankful to Zi Dan for saving "my Wang Fei" (denote the word "my").

 

I love the little hint of jealousy. As for Wang Xuan, as long as anyone who harbour just an interest, she get rid of them immediately.

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6 hours ago, Auniyshi S said:

Ep 15

Was watching it with sub and i cant believe myself that i finished it without skip any scene.

Instead of skipping it i keep saying OMG! OMG! LOL :lol:

First time in my life, i watched drama and i dont mind that there wasnt OTP scene. LOL

I really enjoyed the plot and pace.

I admired AW too.

She's so smart, brave, fast learner and good negotiator.

I love strong FL like her.

Thanks to the writer for creating such character.

 

@Auniyshi S  one of the reason I enjoy this drama it is because I don’t fast forward any of the scenes. The acting and the story are sound deserves my full attention.
 @Polly
  Thank you for the spoilers. 

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5 hours ago, pewpew mew said:

 

im not 100% sure (my chinese is not great but i do follow the drama on weibo for spoilers) and my general understanding is that the drama isn't really resonating with chinese audiences as most of them complained about ZZYs age and her playing a character thats supposedly 15. 

 

a few days ago, the drama was trending on weibo but it wasnt for a good reason. at least, from what i saw - in one of the episodes, ZZY was wearing sneakers and production didnt catch the mistake. so the production company issued an apology.

 

again, i dont read chinese so plz correct me if im wrong!

I was once also turned off by the age thing, but after watching the first I didn't care. She fit the role perfectly and she is doing a phenomenal job. 

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I think, the generals respect and loyal to Awu is not because she is a princess and a wife of their Master only. They experinced Awu leadership similar to their Master. Bold yet forgiving. Not to forget Awu's strategic to quell the messy.
She is indeed one of a kind.

Best part of Ep 16
When AW said to Yuxiu three times, "He'll make it!"
Referred to XQ who will help them.
She trust her husband very much.
One of the foundation of marriage is trust.
XQ are lucky to have AW and vice versa.
 

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Enjoying the drama as it unfolds  :)   I am on ep 16/68 so I am expecting a lot of births, deaths, love and war in the next 52 episodes.  Whatever happens it is meant to happen.  I am definitely looking forward to ep 18 , based on the preview there is one man who is sooo in love with his wife (i saved the picture of him when ge entered after the gate opened :innocent:)   and the wife throwing the etiquette to the wind and running with such confidence and trust .

from a different site another  Chingu shared 

 

She been hardcore since little. What they call Regency romance a hellion tomboy

She a princess that always did what she wanted. 
She competed with the three princes on an equal basis. She a tomboy growing up un restricted. She climbs trees, sneaks out of the palace. If boys can ride she can. She was taught military skills by jumping on the map of the country. So archery, riding, maybe hunting and fishing etc. We even see her retaliate against the crown prince at age 6-7 be laying an ambush. Her running to uncle king was well thought out strategy to avoid punishment. 
You think a young girl holding her own against 3 boys is not going to grow up tough? 
She lived in the Prime minster home set the kitchen on fire and escaped to the palace on her own to avoid family discipline. at 6-7.

Her father said she was better man than her bother.

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OMG, Awu!

Very brave to stand in front of King Jianning and his army.

If it was me, i might be trembled, made water and fainted. LOL!

 

In the beginning of ep 17, when Awu discussed with the Generals about the current situation and her step to handle it, amazed me!

She's an extraordinary woman, able to talk such a heavy topic.

I wonder, did the Generals realize that they spoke in front of their future leader? A wonder woman!

I like Mu Lian's wife too. She is also a reliable woman!

I love when Awu said because she is Princess Yuzhang, she must go through thick and thin with the soldier. She knew her responsibility being a princess and a wife of lord yuzhang. It's not just a title. It's a mandate. How i admire her! I love u Awu!

 

And I'm sorry to 3rd Prince.

King Jianning should called weak woman to him, not to Awu.

Cowardly prince, please go away!

 

Oh .. Awu's father, he is such an evil! 

I'm glad Awu is totally different from her father.

 

 

 

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Just a random question ....What was the China map floor made of that Awu was trained /played on by the old Empress in the 1st ep?    Copper , Gold , Silver or or ?? 

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58 minutes ago, jadore1 said:

Just a random question ....What was the China map floor made of that Awu was trained /played on by the old Empress in the 1st ep?    Copper , Gold , Silver or or ?? 

The prop was made to look like copper.

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25 minutes ago, minglanfan2 said:

The prop was made to look like copper.

Thank you @minglanfan2 I was curious because that opening scene for me was quite dramatic and original in a sense that "I"  have not seen anything like it before.  

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Oh yeah ... in ep 17 i'm quite surprise to see a lime powder as a weapon. 

It's quite 'powerful' to beat an enemy off.

Is it a common weapon?

Havent seen it before in other drama or did i miss it?

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On 1/18/2021 at 5:13 AM, Polly said:

Agree. ZYW's acting is very subtle. Loved him since Tribes and Empires and recently in The Message. He is such an under-rated actor. Glad that ZZY recognised his acting talent and hand picked him as her ML. He is like an union, many layers. I also liked the camp fire scene where he pulled her over with his big longing eyes. 

Yay, another fan of our tribal leader Shuo Feng He Ye

I am lurker.  I didn't think since Winter Begonia that would find another C drama to be obsessed about, but here I am. That and Mr Queen are fulfilling my need. When it was first announced that Zhang Ziyi would be making her drama debut and with Zhou YiWei no less, I was excited, but the long wait lose hope it would ever be aired. Lo-and-behold, it is finally on my screen and I am squealing!! I knew these two wouldn't disappoint me.  

On 1/18/2021 at 1:32 PM, Chibi8535 said:

For those thirsting for the ML (it's quite understandable, and please let me join in too)... and those who are sad about the lukewarm reactions c-netz seem to be giving...
This is giving me major flashbacks of 2017, Ten Miles of Peach Blossoms era, where Mark Chao was considered to be too 'ugly' and 'old looking' to be playing Yehua. And look how everybody ate their words, and fell in absolute love with him and his portrayal. I refused to check out TMOPB because of this 'anti' sentiment which made me prejudiced against the actor, and didn't pick it up until 2019. Quarter-way in, and I was swooning SO hard, and found him SO good-looking!:flushed:

Same with the lead in the Rebel Princess...
I was in that 'I'm not too sure about the ML' mood, from the posters, THEN I saw the trailer and the first episode, and have been fangirling SO hard, ever since!!:love: Also kind of sad he isn't getting a lot of screentime. (And wouldn't in the future, because we keep going back and forth with the palace, where ZZY will be)

I am happy because while 'older' actors are always compared to flower-boys, they end up being perfectly cast for such roles, their presence continues to impress on-screen, and their talent obliterates any arguments against them...
i absolutely cannot wait for the 13th episode (watching with subs)... Xiao Qi deserves ALL the love!:heart:

It is funny how you mentioned Mark Chao and TMOPB, which was officially my first C drama and the one that would remain in my heart, mainly because of Mark's portrayal of a cold prince who falls in love.  He made my heart fluttered.  To me, ZYW is in the same branch of acting as Mark; he can emote well, find the balance between emotions and show with a gaze how much he loves the FL.  Not too many actors, especially the younger/fresh blood.  I. can count on my hands the young actors who can.  It is tiresome to watch dead fish acting as love interest who have to spell that they are in love instead of showing it. 

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On 1/11/2021 at 9:38 PM, galea said:

Bloody hell how did you figure that out so quickly?! Hahahahah, and from my description of her as well, that's hilarious. Yeah! It's her, I'm really enjoying her posts about this drama, it's how I found out about ZYW being part of the cast actually. I knew Zhang Ziyi was in it but I didn't know he was a main lead too. 

 

And I agree, sometimes I feel conflicted when trying to decide whether or not I should look at the ratings on douban. They can be either very useful or just downright baffling at times. I mean, the type of drama matters as well as to how trustworthy the audience's feedback is, but I couldn't really figure out what the problem was using Google translate for the douban reviews for this drama.

During the airing of Winter Begonia, Douban rating were quite low, so I learn not to rely on it.  After it finished airing and with early fans raving, the ratings suddenly rose up to 9.0.  

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