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This drama is really sth. It relies on a single couple to carry its shitty cast up until the very end. Those writers are lucky we all liked JS-AR-Byeori a lot, bcs otherwise no one would be willing to

I would really enjoy this drama more if there were more Jun-su & Ah-ri scenes . I can't wait to see how their love story develops since I like to see dramas where opposite attracts. They both look

I agree, both he and BR imo are the worst characters here, it’s the fact that they were being played as the “nice guys” when they were actually so hypocritical and vile that makes them even more disgu

By the way, what do you think about AR's father words, that his ex-wife always liked HJS. Even when they were married. I can't believe it's true. Her character is the most weird character in the drama

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1 hour ago, airgelaal said:

By the way, what do you think about AR's father words, that his ex-wife always liked HJS. Even when they were married. I can't believe it's true. Her character is the most weird character in the drama

this sounds a lot like self righteous behavior to me to justify his jerkiness.. i mean how does he even know? isn't he always busy working or something? unlike the doting husband/father he is to haeshim and bora

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24 minutes ago, kwayteow_mama said:

this sounds a lot like self righteous behavior to me to justify his jerkiness.. i mean how does he even know? isn't he always busy working or something? unlike the doting husband/father he is to haeshim and bora

He said he read it in her diary. But as for me, it seems like they are changing the plot

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13 hours ago, airgelaal said:

He said he read it in her diary. But as for me, it seems like they are changing the plot

I wonder what kind of changing the plot is it? making AR's mom a bad person just to justify that FG is really Byeori's dad (for me that's a lame excuse and really bad story telling)

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6 hours ago, airgelaal said:

He said he read it in her diary. But as for me, it seems like they are changing the plot

I agree.  AR mom is a weird character like @kwayteow_mamasays.  She was supposedly a kind character who was wrongly accused of having an affair but then goes and has a baby from the guy she wasn’t having an affair with. This messed up her character already then now this!  She always loved the granny man?!?!  In my opinion she’s the worst and she died early in drama!
 

the drama would have been better if BR’s father was AR’s father.

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they were very quick to sell, buy and move home.
I don't like the behavior of the grandfather who sells and doesn't say such an important thing to his daughter. They are all aware that AR's dad won't like it, but since they're all on BRie's dad's side that's okay, the best way to start a war! BR's face of her with her grandfather is not that of someone in love, but of whom she is forced to accept. What exactly is BR mad at with her beloved stepfather? for her behavior towards BRie's dad? Why doesn't that man deserve contempt, everyone should be lenient? Didn't she break up with her bio father?
This transvestite father continues to be reckless, ask AR for help with the letter! From the beginning he was a coward, he abandoned everyone, to get what he has now he didn't struggle much, he inherited the money.
Everyone here is selfish except JS, HS and BRie, they don't know how to deal with a pregnant woman, I don't want more bad shots for AR just needs an apology.

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For his wife and baby's sake, JS should put his foot down and move out. Whenever JS helps his wife out with the chores, his mother always nags that he never helped her out before. That is her own fault.

She should have insisted that her husband share the household chores. 

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When are they going to tell us why JS was kidnapped as a child? I am surprised JS doesn't recognize BRie dad. 

 

I am kinda sad that there is no progression to JS and AR relation. How long is AR dad going to go around mad? So what if grandfather sold his house, to BRie dad? That's not his house? Why is he mad?

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I too was hoping for some more news, I think he wasn't kidnapped by BRie's dad but by someone who then blackmailed her into doing that kind of ice cream review. Wants to be forgiven but does not forgive. I have a doubt it is not that AR's father thinks that she is not her daughter, so he treats her harshly!
I expect the kiss, want more cuddles:wub:

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I hate Ahri's father.  He is a selfish RickRoll'D.  He has a lot of nerve yelling at his father-in-law.  It's time for Hae Shim to stand up to him and tell him to stop being such an angry jerk! 

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I have to admit even though I luv Ah-ri's character to bits, she is frustrating me a little now. At this stage if anything happens to Organic, it will be Ah-ri's own fault even if she was pressured into writing scripts. She just survived a close call & was advised by the doctor to rest & avoid stress since she showed signs of a miscarriage, even Jun-su keeps reminding her to  be on bed-rest yet she stayed up whole night writing manuscript? What the heck! Also, when are the writers going to give us some more sugar & spice in Ah-ri & Jun-su relationship? We are approaching episode 100 for crying out loud and still not much progress? I feel sorry for Jun-su putting in so much effort & not a reciprocation from Ah-ri coming his way, poor guy.

 

Joong-Han I must say is actually the best actor in this drama but his character is really driving me insane. What an arrogant, ignorant, selfish & boorish man he is, there is absolutely no reasoning with him. I really don't understand how Hae-sim could stay married to him, one minute he is loving to her the next he totally flips out. Must the writers make him so unlikable? I almost feel sorry for him being given this role. The audacity of him shouting at his father-in-law & wanting the people around him to side with him when he is being utterly unreasonable is disgusting. He seriously needs to take a chill pill and learn about forgiveness. Also, I've noticed 2 occasions now where Bo-ra answered him back and there was no reaction from him, had it been Ah-ri who responded to him like Bo-ra did she would have been slapped! This just shows how unfair he is with his own biological daughter, punishing her for her mothers sin.

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Wow how very dear he shout at that old man. I'm sorry but why does the old man have to consult anyone about selling HIS house?  Apart from the fact the it's his to do with what he pleases let's not forget that this family has only just reunited and haven't spoken for years so in the same way it was ridiculous for the old man to say he objects to Ah Ri's marriage it's ridiculous for them to think he should discuss it with them. Yeah he has dementia but he's still capable of making decisions. It's bad enough that JH forced the poor man hand in the first place or else he wouldn't even be selling, but to be shouting at him and making demands was just rude and disrespectful.

 

I despise granny man but fair is fair. It's unfair to call all his actions cowardly. Firstly JH isn't someone you can reason with. Showing up in front of him continuously to apologise would get him no where and the situation would remain in an escalated state. The letter was a good idea it hands the power over to JH and he can choose the next step as the aggrieved party. It would would have been selfish for him to keep showing up considering how strongly JH reacts, he'd probably end up having a coronary. 

    Secondly I wouldn't  say he was cowardly leaving. Just look at the actions on wormy debt collector. He had no means of supporting DR so orphanage was the best option where he'll have housing, food, warmth and a chance of an education.  Plus it allowed him to conceal their link as in SK  these debt collectors will, and do, chase any relatives of debtor to get their money even his sister in the moutains wouldn't have been safe. I'm guessing he only left completely once her found out about his terminal illness. He'd already put  the poor woman through enough now she'd have to nurse him and watch him die as they wouldn't have had money for treatment. Even if he did get some treatment he'd die and leave her with the hospital debt plus if he'd taken her as his wife she also inherit the rest of the debt along with the medical bills. I can understand him leaving as he'd see it as the only way to protect the people he cared about. Even after he got better I can understand him not reaching out as he'd see himself as a danger and a burden to DR and Beo Ri's mum, rightly so as money lender and his lackeys have clearly demonstrated. His slowness to sort his shite out once he found out about BR, that mum had died and the way he and DR treats Ah Ri like a babysitter making all this decisions about BR without any consulting is a different story.

 

Thirdly eerr try finding decent digs at decent price in Seoul with outdoor space, especially and older style house like this one. Yup exactly, its hard. Dude trying do right by his kids now. Ain't a darn thing wrong with him buying that house. They didn't swindle the old man and they can't go on walking on eggshells about something from the pass that can't be changed.  He's trying to right his wrongs even if how he's gonna about it makes me want him back up in the mountains away from everybody.

 

Finally errr why should he be gratefully and thankful to THAT lot. They've been horrible to BR. Also this whole situation began with useless director dude making up lies for ratings on his show without any care about the human cost. As a matter of fact he did well to not beat the crap out that dude considering what he's lost him. Folks like JS's parent and deluded PD look down their noses at people they feel are beneath them in social status and don't see them as human. That's why that lady runs her mouth with out any care of how it affects BR, that's why they all working Ah Ri like a horse with  no care for her health and that of her unborn child. That's why CEO gran has no qualms doing the things she does. All just horrid people. The only thing he owes them is a genuine apology for what he did to JS which still affects him to this day. He also needs to knock it into that ladies head that they will never be a couple because she's getting well ahead of herself and she's not the type of person who should raise BR.

 

Bloody hell so sorry I've gone on a bit. Last thing how did HS end up with both of these men? I hope she isn't diplomatic about gramps going missing. The blame lays squarely with JH. He needs to hear it. Like I've said many times he needs to deal with his guilt for his part in how things ended up with his family. Then maybe he can finally start treating Ah Ri like his daughter instead like some horrible reminder and then he can starting seeing things more clearly and rationally. 

 

Right that my 2 cents well lets call it a dollar. Eeek that was long.:sweatingbullets:

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