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@celebrianna ~ re: your question  

@Lmangla she may need to rethink her choice and fall in love with the SML, No one would  want someone doing this after kissing him    Is pandemic now , I can’t kiss anyone I don’t know  

@shana0127 ~ like @maribella mentioned, in the original, she ended up with the male lead. however, this wasn't a typical triangle. will try not to give too many spoilers but part of the reason I loved

Like many here, I really was caught up in the original Phoenix drama... I think it was my 2nd drama with Lee Seo Jin, my 1st with Eric and Lee EunJu... they were all sensuous, many faceted creatures ... because of Lee Eunju’s suicide, I am always haunted with the memory of the series. She, particularly, touched me. I loved her raspy voice and chemistry with her two costars and was looking forward to see her grow as an actress. She was only 24! It was one of my first peaks into the difficulty so many of these young performers go through, the pressures that lead to desperate situations...

unfortunately this cast is fitting in with so much of the current daily dramas for single-layered acting and characters, ultra slim and superficial attractiveness, no real sensuality that comes with multi layered characters - so although I might take a peak here and there to see how they carry out this version, I am really not enthralled. It’s time for dailies to know that they can and should do better...

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On 11/5/2020 at 5:11 PM, Ameera Ali said:

After 9 episodes 


Get out , No daughter of us married to a  low - class society , we ‘re proud Materialist , Socialist, Opportunist people 

her parents are actually weird and hilarious. from the tidbits of history that was revealed, it was the grandfather's company and it looks like the dad married into the family. he wasn't necessarily rich either and mom basically was like ji eun version 1.0. so either they would be more sympathetic or learn from the past... but nope, instead, they push ji eun which means the girl gets even more stubborn like an angry bull and runs off. kekekek... I was watching this reality show where all these people are so IN LOVE! LOL. so I have decided that ji eun must be from that kind of dramatic cloth and just not take her seriously. then this drama becomes oddly amusing. I was laughing when the dad entered the hospital room when they were hugging and the two gasped. LOL :lol:

 

jung in needs to make up his mind. chairman seo is a real moron. so he is going to register his grandson under jung min's ID and somehow that is good for the company. yea, okay old man. you would think that someone has to get jung min's permission to do that but apparently since he is waltzing the world, it is easy. jung in can't seen to decide whether he is aghast at having his brother be the legal father or not. glasses man, you are better off with na kyung -- just tell your dad to shove it as he doesn't even think you have what it takes to run the company anyway. jung in is another character who is so smitten with an idea. he wants to be free and since he cannot, he finds ji eun fascinating -- the wild child who does whatever. well, who is stopping him from being wild as his twin or ji eun? no one.

 

but the big takeaway from catching up on this drama -- apparently having a wedding a dream means you will die???? what???? so all the romantics who dream about a wedding? LOL.

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@Lmangla  this drama going in circles, I can’t wait for the next chapter in the story and for the millions leg girl to show up , move on this begging of parents to approve what this spoiled children want :crazy:

 

But at least they know what they are so far 

 

Trapped Lead man :  :sweatingbullets:

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Proud Second Lead :mrgreen:

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Leash on Lead woman :  Me too , I literally can’t afford to escape my parent power control  :w00t:

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Poor mistress: wow , these privileged children have audacity to judge me for not wanting to let go of background privilege when they can’t themselves :joy:

 

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**my thought after watching 11/12 episodes 

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3 hours ago, Ameera Ali said:

@Lmangla  this drama going in circles, I can’t wait for the next chapter in the story and for the millions leg girl to show up , move on this begging of parents to approve what this spoiled children want :crazy:

 

yea, fingers crossed, the next chapter is a lot better. I think the leads don't have chemistry together and can't sell this love story. so maybe they will be better when they hate each other. hahahaha...

 

the drama is actually kind of interesting when the leads are with other people. sae hoon and jang in becoming friends was so random and also fun to watch. jang in's arc was interesting to watch -- his struggle with being a coward, hiding na kyung who he pities and hates, fretting about being a father but also rather mesmerized by ji eun because she is so different from who he is.

 

I feel like the real problem is with the female lead. she sort of annoys me when she tries to act so cutesy because she is much more interesting as a devious, cunning person who is trying to push her father both emotionally but also business smart wise. why don't they just stick to that instead of that ridiculous aegyo?

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wow, ji eun's parents marriage is so toxic. no wonder ji eun was totally looking for an exit in the form of sae hoon. her parents neither like or trust each other. they are basically going to create the same havoc and dynamic in ji eun and sae hoon's marriage and it is going to be a repeat of the past. her dad sang bum worked hard but he felt humiliated and cheated that he is basically a puppet chairman who was not given shares. his brother-in-law and wife are both obsessed with keeping the company but don't have the brains or business smart to actually run and resent sang bum. so the son dying basically tore apart all the wounds and brought it out into the open and now it is basically open warfare and backbiting. in the midst of this, ji eun has thrown a spanner in their grand merger plan by wanting to lead her own life -- however, both of them are going to try use her as their own puppet. if ji eun had some sense, she would see that the same dynamic of her parents' marriage is again playing out...

 

jang in at least has more sense. he has quit the company and moved out. it is interesting to watch his friendship with sae hoon. wonder how that will play out going forward. looks like we will move into the next phase where ji eun and sae hoon have a disastrously short marriage and drive each other up the wall....

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I just finished watching the original and after seeing the new version episode for today and preview for tomorrow, I decidedly dislike the female lead. She was spoiled in the original, but likeable. This chick in the new one is disgusting, bratty, and delusional beyond belief. Maybe she will have a better character after she is thrown into poverty. The father in the modern version is detestable as well and yes to whoever pointed out that he looked ridiculous with the bootleg grey hair; her father in the original was not this horrid. This goofy presence of all the characters brought out the worst of the 80's in US soaps. I'll be back for the time jump.

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so watched the last episode and then caught up on the episodes I missed. all I can say is poor sae hoon. ji eun is such a spiteful spoilt brat who is bent on getting her way. her dad is on point when he said that these two would have broken up naturally if the mom hadn't interfered and made them romeo and juliet. these two have very different ideas when it comes to money, self-respect and ethics.

 

@chococarmela ~ now that the wedding is over, the claws have very quickly come off and reveal ji eun is just as manipulative and selfish as her family who are all playing games. mom is creating a slush fund through art gallery and forging some painting. dad wants ji eun to give him her shares so that he can take over the company. ji eun wants to be daddy's girl and heir and is willing to do so if it means that she gets to live in the lap of luxury. the studio she so loved to hang out before for its romantic vibe is no longer cutting it for her.

 

so ji eun bullies sae hoon into moving in to the family home and working for her father. the poor guy is already worn out by her antics but is dragged in because of the baby. once at the home, he is constantly belittled by the mom and made to do illegal accounting at the office for the dad. sae hoon is rightfully frustrated but ji eun makes excuses for both parents and sees them as right and the way of the world. ummm, okay stupid woman. then why on earth did you pursue this man and chase him till he said yes when it was obvious that he had a different set of ethics and self-respect than you?

 

 

anyway, all of this comes to a head and sae hoon is so ready to walk out. they are having an argument and he sort of pushes her so he can walk and she falls down the stairs. now, she is piping mad as she has lost the baby. mom sees this as the perfect opportunity to push for a divorce while dad decides to push the slush fund illegal activities as sae hoon as the scapegoat. ji eun is meanwhile all about her grief and wants sae hoon out of her life. so yea, that was one quick downward spiral of a nasty marriage and relationship. 

 

sae hoon should have stuck to his first decision and walked away from the relationship..

 

23 hours ago, foreverempress said:

She was spoiled in the original, but likeable. This chick in the new one is disgusting, bratty, and delusional beyond belief.

exactly! ji eun in this version is so terrible that you don't feel sorry for her at all. lets see if she gets better with the time leap that looks like it should happen in a few episodes. as of now, she is really insufferable. ugh.

 

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9 hours ago, Lmangla said:

he claws have very quickly come off and reveal ji eun is just as manipulative and selfish as her family who are all playing games. mom is creating a slush fund through art gallery and forging some painting. dad wants ji eun to give him her shares so that he can take over the company. ji eun wants to be daddy's girl and heir and is willing to do so if it means that she gets to live in the lap of luxury. the studio she so loved to hang out before for its romantic vibe is no longer cutting it for her.

 

Ji Eun sounds way more like a villain. Sheesh.

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