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@partyon ~ ... one last poll, it is!. calling all chingus for one last time for the final poll!   EDIT: tagging some folks - sorry if I missed any... @yamiyugi @seungshin @afv @

Here is the translation of the final scene of the final episode. (I'll be posting the full TV ratings for all the episodes, so I'll probably make another post later today.)   I also post the

Good ending as with any daily it could have been so much worse and unsatisfying. I call this a win and it goes on my keep list. Some maybe frustrated at what this writer did and some may have wanted a

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1 hour ago, GingerK said:

Wow SJ made me tear up. I think I'm team bromance. SJ & TP most emotional pair.

kekeke.. they were definitely far more emotional than yujung and tae poong. he seems to feel guilty about hurting seo jun and there was actually really sad music with that segment. if tae poong wants to stay in DL group and finish his revenge, then he really needs to break up with yujung and focus. it will be interesting to see if he sacrifices yujung for the larger goal... he could just tell seo jun that yujung ended up leaning on him because she got so fed up with yura -- now that will shift the game back on yura. hahahaha...

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1 hour ago, Ameera Ali said:

I feel for SJ , they make fool out of

 

 

You are thinking of him first..... please SJ. The fact that she is thinking is already a wonderful thing. :D

 

Sorry people, I can't resist that.

 

@Lmangla I have been saying that TP must decide what he wants, revenge or YJ. I am repeating SJ, why must it be YJ? 

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I feel so sad for SJ just as he was in such harmony with his Bff,  Here comes Ms Hefty to blow it all to purgatory. I hope SJ winds up with someone he deserves to be happy ,everyone deserves to be loved except Ms. Hefty , Her Mom , and That murderest Moma SJs mom. SJ had never knew what love felt like till he met YJ. All hes every felt was angry and suffocated , His dad treated him a like tool , To use and  control on a wim , I feel to  hide his own inadequacies as Man . His Mom is  the :naughty: in every form ,Writers hurry up and fit this woman in a orange jump , Just like her :crazymad: daughter in law she needs to  be locked up and then bury the key knee deep in dirt .

 

I'm also team Bromance I like seeing SJ and TP together . TP is like the big brother SJ never had.  At least if  he couldn't get YJ to accept him , TP was always there to listen and  understand. That's gone for the time being , Just until Ms Hefty and SJs mom are exposed .

 

 

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You know ya’ve gone and goofed if your man has more chemistry and bond with another man X’DDD YJ is such a bland, stupid FL that I actually ship TP with SJ more, ngl if they actually turn it like that in the end it’s gonna be such a blast, viva la bromance! 

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1 hour ago, monalisa said:

I noticed that in K-dramas, people who make false accusations are never charged. 

It's because they are living in kdrama world with their strange legal system and values which sometimes coincide with the real world, so the viewers most of the time confuse the two. But it's all in good fun, except when people who are trying to be politically correct can't accept it. We get long diatribes on psychology, hidden messages or moral of the story...

so far none beat 'The unknown woman'. It was so funny.

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I can’t understand why everyone pities SJ.  It is true TP has been using SJ but it is only to get a job. Sure he has kept his identity a secret well that is be this mom wants to kill TP. He has to hide so SJ’s mom does kill him. Why should TP remain hidden for the rest of his life without knowing why they tried to kill him??? Why that are targeting his adoptive aunt????

SJ has right to be angry but not about YJ. YJ is so CLUELESS BECAUSE SHE DIDN’T KNOW SJ has a crush on her. Is she for real. How dumb can you be not to know that. 

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22 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

I can’t understand why everyone pities SJ.  It is true TP has been using SJ but it is only to get a job. Sure he has kept his identity a secret well that is be this mom wants to kill TP. He has to hide so SJ’s mom does kill him. Why should TP remain hidden for the rest of his life without knowing why they tried to kill him??? Why that are targeting his adoptive aunt????

The adoptive aunt is the first love of SJs dad . SJs mom paid his adoptive aunt to stay away from SJs dad and disappear. TPs adoptive aunt lost her memory in a accident she doesn't remember SJ dad. SJs dad has been looking for the adoptive aunt for quite sometime , SJs mom knows this and has stopped him at every turn. She murdered his adoptive aunt's husband because he was about to expose her.  TPs adoptive aunts husband was the one SJ mom ran over with car and framed TPs mom . TPs  mom was also about to expose SJs mom because she found out that she was stealing money from her.

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Seojun is a sad guy with a sad life, but he has no right to tell them to break up.
Yes, it was a duck move for his two bffs to hide their relationship (+taepoong broke the bro code) but did he think about his situation? He knew what mess he was getting into when he legally married yura knowing he still has feelings for yujung. Did he expect yujung to hold that mistress title for 10 years until he divorces yura (who's incredibly stubborn and manipulated her way into this marriage)? His mom forced him into marriage, but no one forced him to marry yura specifically. And has yujung even reciprocated once?
Nope. Because he has and always been treated like a friend. Yujung has been an incredibly dense person from day 1, so he should've expected only a direct confession would make her self-aware. 

 

You can't just rope a girl up and sabotage her entire love life like a jinsang (Want a Taste).
Why does seojun think he's entitled to go around deciding what yujung chooses to do?
If you like a girl, you would seriously talk with her; if she doesn't like you back, you suck it up and stop. Stay in your lane, if you're truly her friend seojun. It's like he's resorting back to his old ways.

 

He deserves better friends and family but not like this. 

And someone tell this poor boy the entirety of yura's past before the hole gets bigger.

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1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:

I can’t understand why everyone pities SJ.  It is true TP has been using SJ but it is only to get a job. Sure he has kept his identity a secret well that is be this mom wants to kill TP. He has to hide so SJ’s mom does kill him. Why should TP remain hidden for the rest of his life without knowing why they tried to kill him??? Why that are targeting his adoptive aunt????

SJ has right to be angry but not about YJ. YJ is so CLUELESS BECAUSE SHE DIDN’T KNOW SJ has a crush on her. Is she for real. How dumb can you be not to know that. 

because the scenes was really well done! hahahha.. they had great sad music. kekeke... but seriously, felt a bit sorry for seo jun when he told tae poong how dumb he felt when he was opening his heart to him. tae poong does look guilty because while he was using seo jun, there was a true friendship.  no one likes to be mocked or insulted. like @tofumochu was noting, seo jun can't expect yujung to keep waiting or think he can order her love life. however, he can feel like an idiot because he trusted them and he kept chatting about how he feels about yujung and they both kept lying to him. both could have said upfront that they have gotten to know each other and have developed feelings -- a more simpler streamlined truth. instead, it is the lying and deceit that is hurting seo jun -- the feeling that while he valued tae poong, he wasn't valued in return. the feeling that they made him a fool will hurt. it also doesn't help that yura is going on about insults etc.

 

like @maribella, feel this romance between yujung and tae poong is more in the eyes of the writer. hahahah.. at this time, they feel more like co-parents and friends than romantic partners. tae poong really needs to focus on his mom's death. tangling with yujung is just messy. she is and was kinda his sister-in-law. because of yujung and her family, he can't go full on revenge against yura because they are all going to cry and say "poor yura, forgive her." eye roll. so how can he have a relationship with yujung if he is going to take revenge against yura? I want tae poong to go full on in his truth and dare game with yura because it fun to watch that. so please tae poong, just dump this woman with less brain.

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2 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

I can’t understand why everyone pities SJ.  It is true TP has been using SJ but it is only to get a job. Sure he has kept his identity a secret well that is be this mom wants to kill TP. He has to hide so SJ’s mom does kill him. Why should TP remain hidden for the rest of his life without knowing why they tried to kill him??? Why that are targeting his adoptive aunt????

SJ has right to be angry but not about YJ. YJ is so CLUELESS BECAUSE SHE DIDN’T KNOW SJ has a crush on her. Is she for real. How dumb can you be not to know that. 

It's not so much of pity from me, more like I know how it feels to be betrayed by two people for whom one cared very much. YJ as much as TP wanted to hide the relationship for different reasons.

 

For the last 20 episodes or so, it was the YR show, so no revenge seeking from TP. He bought the building to kick out the awful mother of YJ&YR, but nothing happens. Anyone can explain why?

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42 minutes ago, nohamahamoud2002 said:

why does everyone send their children to the US? Yura here and Jimin in A place in the sun?

 

As if it is the North Pole or planet Mars :D

 

@UnniSarah I am team TP and YJ. YJ told SJ they are just friends so...

 

 

Hi chingu @nohamahamoud2002 Because she told him she loves someone else , I don’t think he is a right to tell them to break up.  I too love TP & YJ. I like them together because they are so nerdy and cute together. I a truly love their chemistry.  

@maribella I understand where you are coming from.  The secrets must stay hidden otherwise their lives will be in danger. Yu Ra will be opening that can of worms and TP has gotten any info on what happened . 
TBH  

 

I have not watch episode 62-63 because from preview it Yu Ra is winning and it really RickRoll'D me off . I don’t pity SJ , although some people have pointed out he should be pitied but I. My opinion this is Karma. For the terrible deeds his mom did, he is now paying for it. It is sas but true. Yes he is a good guy and o do hope he find real love but he put his hope in a love that he was deluded by. 
1.  He was crushing hard for YJ and leaves , why did he leave for 5 years with no  letter or goodbye to the woman he supposedly love. 
2. He didn’t even fight to stay with her but followed his mommy’s decision 

3. he is a momma’s boy. ( YUCK!!) I hate guys like that be a they tend to become evil to protect their mom unless the writer has planned for him to be the good guy 

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4 hours ago, tofumochu said:

Seojun is a sad guy with a sad life, but he has no right to tell them to break up.
Yes, it was a duck move for his two bffs to hide their relationship (+taepoong broke the bro code) but did he think about his situation? He knew what mess he was getting into when he legally married yura knowing he still has feelings for yujung. Did he expect yujung to hold that mistress title for 10 years until he divorces yura (who's incredibly stubborn and manipulated her way into this marriage)? His mom forced him into marriage, but no one forced him to marry yura specifically. And has yujung even reciprocated once?
Nope. Because he has and always been treated like a friend. Yujung has been an incredibly dense person from day 1, so he should've expected only a direct confession would make her self-aware. 

 

You can't just rope a girl up and sabotage her entire love life like a jinsang (Want a Taste).
Why does seojun think he's entitled to go around deciding what yujung chooses to do?
If you like a girl, you would seriously talk with her; if she doesn't like you back, you suck it up and stop. Stay in your lane, if you're truly her friend seojun. It's like he's resorting back to his old ways.

 

He deserves better friends and family but not like this. 

And someone tell this poor boy the entirety of yura's past before the hole gets bigger.

This is my view too. ON more than one occasion after she found out he was married to YR she has told him that she sees him as a friend and is not interested in more. The problem with SJ is he is not listening. He wants YJ and he thinks that YR is the reason why she would not give him a chance. YR is the problem but not the way he thinks. The other issue is YJ was dense, very until he asked her to give him a chance even when she knew he had married (just not to whom at that point) he never mentioned who his wife was or what type of relationship he had with her. SJ wanted to date YJ pushing her into being the 3rd party and taking on everyone's bad opinion of her. He would have continued that way if YR had stayed in her lane and kept to the agreement of them living separate lives. Unfortunately for him YR flipped the script on him and started running around like a scorned wife when she knew he never liked her. 

 

My view is if he truly loved YJ (and does not want to possess her or the warmth she gave to him) he would be happy for her to have found someone she truly liked. But when she told him she had someone she liked he started wondering who it was thinking she was lying to him to keep him from continuing to harass her about giving him a chance. Never once did he seriously think she really had someone she liked. This is why I agree he has no right to dictate who these two be with or demand they break up. They made a judgment to not tell him because they prolly saw this behavior coming. I believe they wanted him to let go and move on but of course SJ is being stubborn. I saw this coming because he feels he should have been told but when he is acting like YJ is keeping her distance because of his crazy wife (as she should even if she was not YR's sister) or his equally crazy mother instead of thinking maybe YJ really does not see him as anything more than a friend. SJ was crossing lines and making YJ feel uncomfy. Yes, she is dense as a rock sometimes but once he came out and asked her to give him a chance he stepped back and requested that he stop talking about personal things at work with her. For a small moment he was stalking her by showing up at the company dinner. 

 

Now what will he say when he learns the truth of YR's lies about not having a family and that YR is her sister. Will he again feel betrayed because no one told him the truth. Will he be rational as to why YJ did not say she was YR's sister. I doubt it. In his mind finding out that YR is a fraud would have helped him divorce her and chase YJ as if her family would allow YJ to be with him after YR married him. He has no clue what YJ deals with and what she will deal with when that mess blows up. I am for sure that YR and her mother will blame YJ who has nothing to do with her lies being exposed. Another thing is YR is not going to let go of him at this point so no matter what happens he will be the sacrifice and have to continue with her for the time being. 

 

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I agree as well. SJ just went along with his mom's arrangements to keep him away from YJ 5 years ago without even a goodbye. In his mind I think he thought he would come back and be able to go after her. The main issue is he really had no idea what her life was like 5 years later. If she was married and had children or was trying to survive. And he at this point still does not know she has a son she is raising. But he assumed when he came back he would search for her.  But then he got tangled up with YR and was unable to get away as his mother was helping to tangle him too. 

 

I am interested to see more of what happened to TP's adopted Aunt in the past.  For her to kill the woman's husband she must have done something that could lead all the clues to her over stopping her husband from finding this woman. And did this woman already have a child at that point by SJ's father? Is that why she made sure to get rid of her and did she cause her accident or was this a coincidence of the woman running away?

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Well said @Ldy Gmerm SJ acts like YJ is an object not a person. He also forgets his mom will never accept her. He refuses to see the buffer picture. His own mother told him , she will get rid of her if he doesn’t.  He act like a child who doesn’t want to lose his favorite toy. This type of personality trait is bothersome. I think having TP and YJ in his life can make him a better person. 

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