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FlowerGarden (Ahn JeongWon ♥️ Chae SongHwa)

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Mirror scenes from R88 which made an encore appearance in HP.  Of couples that didn’t end up together. 

 

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SongHwa’s sense of humor  (at the expense of IJ the man child)

 

There’s this encounter.  It also doubles up as the “chance encounter” of Romantic Winter (which I feel like I should dedicate one whole off topic post too because that love line has been running in the background since Ep1)

 

IJ and his Darth Vader helmet
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He even spotlights her with his headlamp :lol:  And crosses the line.

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Then this revelation. :lol:  SHwa had time enough to get the details of the surgery all sorted which meant she could’ve taken the helmet off IJ but she left it on - just because.  I love a woman with a great sense of humor!

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FlowerGarden

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reminds me so much of this couple.

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Both women are driven, smart, strong and independent.  Both men are principled, good with children and selfless (and have another girl crushing on them :lol:).  
 

JWon and SunWoo have their crushes confessing. 

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There’s snow.
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And there’s tears

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And there was historically a tap on the shoulder :lol:

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And there was a dream sequence :lol:

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Which included choco(pies)late :lol:

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But wait...someone else is having that same dream...someone waiting in the sidelines.

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Who just happened to be there during the tearful confession.

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I wonder who that would be in the HP context?  Winter is a Romantic time indeed :wub:.  

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Love that YYS is Ahn JeongWon to the tee.  A love line in S1?  Yes that would be the one sided crush from Jang.  And the struggle with his (love line) girlfriend “God” who he was planning to “marry” (join the priesthood).  Remember Shin doesn’t give much away.  He wants their acting to be natural.  That’s why he didn’t let on to JJS that SHwa was his old flame.  He didn’t want JJS to be affected by that thought.  He was a happily married man in the first few episodes.  He wouldn’t have told YYS either if Flower Garden was the plan all along.  That would ruin the surprise  :lol:


Who gets the man? - too wordy and picture heavy to put here.  So it’s in a Word doc.  

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CqFtBYAZezoUWgHLmdC5AVJCzIwwuD9cXmBU4kxBFDU/
 

:hooray2:

 

 

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Aww...supportive of each other.  Whilst waiting for S2 to start.  Great friends!  Even the actor playing the other Ahn (ChiHong) was there!

Cr - YYS’s Instagram.

 

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I love how Writer Lee rewards you over and over as one dissects the drama carefully by looking carefully at the script.  She is meticulous and even inane dialogues link up.  Like this one in Ep1.  Off topic so in spoiler.

 

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SHwa talks to the lady with a son needing a liver transplant - she asks who the doctor is
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The lady replies it’s Prof Kwon who was in the show Good Doctors.

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SHwa names him.
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And says they are close and that he’s a great doctor.
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But we know that fate stepped in and Kwon was indisposed.  And he couldn’t do the surgery.

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Someone else was there at precisely the right time to step in. (With his son Luke (UJu)) :lol:
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And later on we find out that coincidentally (?:lol:), IJ was also on the show Good Doctors when talking to IS/JWan about Go Ara.

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And look who showed up as the resident in charge.

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Fateful encounter indeed.  So that’s why the Go Ara cameo was slotted in there.  Very clever writer nim.  And to be honest, only someone like Jang would’ve been able to take IJ seriously when he was wearing his Vader helmet doing surgery.  She would’ve been able to look past the ridiculousness of the situation and dealt with the surgery efficiently as resident.

 

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I guess Shin wanted YYS to up the vehemence and dissatisfaction (when the cameras started to roll) with his resident when Jang was insensitive to a patient (as opposed to what was said in the meeting above).  So he would match his soulmate tonally in the same episode.  Both spat the words of reproach and reprimand out.  Both are unflinching with regards to how a doctor should empathize  with their patients and guardians.  Locked in. :wub:

 

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Should’ve seen it coming.  Right from Ep1.  In how both women related to the same lady (mother of the son who needed a liver transplant whom IJ operated on)

 

One is cold and frigid (like her wintry name) - note how Shin frames this.  Distant, far away.  She’s looking down from her pedestal as a doctor and observing the lady.  She makes no move to comfort or to get down to her level to help her.

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The other is warm.  Reaching down to support her.  Even as the lift goes down (depicting how life would hit her hard), SHwa gets down to her level to support her.  :wub:.  Both she and JWon mirror each other.  They are a match made in heaven.

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Throwback timelines - even this matches them up :lol: Flower Garden

 

MiDo’s first meeting (she reads for Lee-Shin) - happens on 2April 2019

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She returns for her second meeting (and gets cast as SHwa) 4June 2019

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In between those 2 dates, LeeShin had asked JJS about Jeon MiDo.  During his second meeting on 9May 2019.  He had already been cast.


Yoo YeonSeok’s first meeting happens on the same day MiDo was cast as SHwa - 4June 2019 and he was cast.  By that time, JJS and KDM had already been cast.

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Even the room (background) is the same for these 2 :lol:.   Waiting to see if KDM and JKH’s auditions are the same.   Locked in from the get go. :biubiu:  Pink Piggie approves. 

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Clues that hint at a missing scene

 

SHwa’s biopsy results.  JWon was there.  But was called away.  
 

Clue 1

The Wind reference.  SHwa’s friend from high school.  Her name is BaRam (which means wind).  She had breast cancer.  She didn’t tell her husband.  She didn’t expect him to show up but he did in the end.  Initially I thought IJ was the one who was the one there for SHwa but Shin made sure there were lines between them everywhere in their scenes.  So he’s not it.

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And their conversation didn’t make her feel better?  It made her feel worse?

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So whilst IJ was there for her physically, he didn’t provide her with the emotional support she needed.  In her rational intelligent mind, she knew he was in no position to “fix it no matter what” if things went pear shaped.  It wasn’t the words she needed to hear.  Not like her friend Baram’s husband.  He was there for her physically and emotionally.

 

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No.  That support (the right kind) would come from her soulmate JWon.  He’s the Wind that will come blowing in.  That’s why he’s on the cover of the OST The Wind is Blowing.  So that’s Clue 1 that JWon was there.

 

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Clue 2 to come. :)

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Clue 2 (continued from post above)

 

It is no coincidence that LeeShin had JWon take on the Pink Run in Ep3.  The Pink Run is the marathon done in support of Breast Cancer.  Exactly what SHwa was fearful that she had when she detected the lump.  The clues to link the 2 scenes (Ep3 and Ep6) are there but you need to look hard.

 

The scene in Ep3 starts with SHwa listening to the DJs (JiWon :lol: - a “JW”) and they say it’s 7am.  It’s May.  Lots of references about special days.  One of which is Children’s Day (Pediatrics anyone?).  Then as she drives out of the carpark, the song that plays is Cool’s One Summer Drive.

(pics are in the full article in the link below)


Lyrics loosely translated - it’s primarily a song about new beginnings, which fits well with SHwa’s current situation as she had just broken up with Prof Jang.  But it also is about coming back to where it all started again after a setback.  And the song starts with the opening of a room window.  There’s this segment highlighted in red though?  Does it sound familiar? :lol: Flower Garden. 

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I opened my room window today that I had closed since you left.
Get rid of your broken sadness. Let me go.
I'm driving a car with a summer glow that cuts through my eyes.
Clear your scent in the wind. Whoo-hoo.

Drive in summer night.
Living far away from the map.
I can cover my eyes with the mud wind.
Chabaquin keeps rattling, and I get shaken every time.
Sweat flows like rain again.

Oh, we're going to the end of the earth to make this long year exhausting.
That's where it starts. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Life is beautiful without you. Oh, I'm not a big deal.
You've been sad for so long, and I'm going to love myself for the first time.

If you see a house with a skylight, and you're sitting in a dreamy memory,
There's a lot of strong winds in the window, and it's full of old memories.

I don't believe you're gone.
Because you were the one who couldn't leave me.
My eyes were red every day, like the glow of the sunset.
You had to lock me up in those memories.

Oh, I'm gonna sing at the end of the world, and I'm gonna start over
I buried you deep in the sea that pushed the sun up, and now...
Life's beautiful on my own.
Oh, my humming and coming back for the first time,
The sun only rises red in summer.

Oh, we're going to the end of the earth to make this long year exhausting.
We start from the beginning. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Life is beautiful without you. Oh, I'm not a big deal.
You've been sad for too long. I'm going back to my first time and I love you.
I'm gonna forget everything about me and love me.


That’s why when you listen hard, as SHwa opens the window to her room in Ep12 after his “confession” to her that he is staying, you can hear the wind blowing.  (Matching this song’s lyrics and also alluding to JWon’s song in Clue 1 above).  Actually it’s been brought to my attention that the Korean subtitles actually have it in there (it’s missing in the Netflix English subs).  As she opens the window, these pop up in the Korean subtitles (translated it says, The wind is blowing).  Thanks megaraanemone

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 Clue 2 is too long and picture heavy.  The full write up is here 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AyWOn4UT_fASRv7uOEaFqh-uTTCvbE3FZBUJEzqcr1E/

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Happy birthday MiDo :)


cr - MiDo’s Instagram (mido_ring)
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How clever are they?  Kudos to fans who crafted SHwa’s office (gifted it to her) and our Coffee girl drinking her favourite brew (Coffee Friends anyone? :lol:)...and her bass guitar on the sofa.  She is just this ray of sunshine isn’t she? :wub:


Cr - mido_ring Instagram

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This photo (it’s staged) has me wondering

 

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It’s plenty obvious that SHwa is besotted with JWon towards the end of S1 when it comes to FlowerGarden.  What is JWan doing here?  Does it not look like SHwa is besotted, JWon is hesitating BUT JWan is attempting to convince him to just take the plunge?  Whilst SH and IJ watch on?  :lol:
 

JWan said this at Kalgaksu dinner. 

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Will JWan be the one to cajole JWon to finally reveal his feelings to SHwa?  He and JWon are tight.  They seem to have grown closer since the early days when it was originally JWan/IJ and SH/JWon.  They live together.  And JWon seems to be the only one who knows what transpired in Hawaii  :lol:.   And they are constantly talking to each other much like how SH and IJ seem to have gelled with their respective divorces.   Have to wait till S2 or S3 to find out

 

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yes! that's what i thought when i watched the scene when Ikjun shared those chocolates with Dr. Jang, same style :)

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On 8/9/2020 at 7:21 PM, nrllee said:

More findings. Serendipitous on my part.  On camping, SHwa and JWon.  Flower Garden.

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Too pic heavy so it’s in a document instead. :)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GANXeGjrgN347SwGex_DtMqAaNA_ucz-bW9Wgju63cg/

@nrllee do you remember? Door vision panel shot vs window shot. We only have 3 window shots as follows:

1. Ep. 10 - ikjun n shwa

2. Ep. 12 - jang n jwon

3. Ep. 12 - shwa n jwon

 

Do you remember you have suggested it to wishful thinking? IJ refused to go to sleep because he wants to remain in that imagination of his having meal with Shwa.

 

And ep. 12? :D

 

What is the difference in ep 12 window shots?  One is jwon and shwa sharing secret smiles. Another is a long distant shot just like ep. 10 window shot. While ep. 10 has rain, ep 12 has snow. 

 

Definitely a juxtaposition of sort for our FG. Snow and rain sure meant something for FG. For shwa n jwon, their window shot shows their wishful thinking, with both of them smiling, most probably reminiscing of their memorable winter or perhaps a plan is forming in their minds of a certain future together.:relaxed:

 

Suffice to say,

Door vision panel shot =  one's afterthought/ true feelings (cr. Adrift@BoD)

Window shots = wishful thinking

 

 

 

 

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@miracle23. There’s a difference between those window shots you listed.

 

Ep10 - SHwa and IJ.  They are in a distance and they eventually get blurred out by the falling rain.

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Ep12 - Jang and JWon (the kiss).  I have a feeling Shin wanted to have a similar effect as Ep10 but with snow.  Fitting because Jang is GyeoUl (Winter).

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And both IJ and Jang are dreamers/romantics.  They leap to conclusions about things.

 

Now contrast that to the comfortable Ep12 coffee scene between JWon and SHwa.  
 

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It’s mundane.  It’s not flashy.  It’s ordinary.  And when Shin framed that shot (it’s similar to the one where she’s looking out at the rain and IJ appears at the door of her office and asks her out to dinner - the rain there serves as lines between them - like this scene - as if the metal vertical panel isn’t enough :lol:)

 

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I think that’s why Shin didn’t film the first snow falling for that Dec3 shot as SHwa opens the window.  Neither are dreamers.  They are both grounded in reality.  They don’t mope around if their love interest doesn’t reciprocate.  There are other more important things to work out in life.  Service of others before self.  That’s SHwa and JWon to the tee.  They may be hurting but their altruistic self will not allow them to wallow.  They seek to push on in service of others. That’s why no snow was filmed. And there’s that panning of SHwa in the foreground between the bottles and then again with JWon in the background between the bottles.  No blurring or lines by falling snow.  Because they know each other intimately.  The first 2 window scenes have blurring by rain/snow because the scenes are unrealistic.  IJ was acting totally out of character at the table, he really wasn’t his fidgety self at all. It’s like a grown up pretend version which only lasted for that moment.  It’s his wish/vision.  Similarly WinterGarden.  Jang knows very little about the real JWon.  JWon knows even less about Jang.  He didn’t even bother asking about the “boyfriend” who dropped her off (and he was the one who overheard the conversation about “see you later at home”).  Someone else was terribly interested though and asked her the “personal question”?  :lol: If you can’t be bothered about something like that, you aren’t interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with that person.  Falling snow window version is presumably Jang's vision (or maybe also IJ).  The window scene in Ep12 for SHwa and JWon was different.  They were actually sitting away from each other in the room BUT with that single framed window shot, Shin framed them together.  Really close.  I get the feeling he put JWon in the background and SHwa in the foreground because JWon is the one who has been waiting for SHwa to be ready (for the right timing).  And the timing is right.  From Ep10 on.  Remember Packmule said the bottles could depict the seasons?  Between 1 and 2 SHwa moves in their relationship.  Between S2 and 3 it would be JWon.  A FG wedding in S3 would be nice.  Flowers galore. Watched on by Ju and Rosa in Jeju island perhaps?  And SHwa’s brothers - both real and assumed (IJ, JWan, SH). 

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