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FlowerGarden (Ahn JeongWon ♥️ Chae SongHwa)

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:hooray2: Flower (SongHwa)

Garden (JeongWon):hooray2:

 

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Welcome to the ark of Chae SongHwa and Ahn JeongWon (Hospital Playlist)

A place where we are patiently (and painstakingly) building it plank by plank

Our Official Mascot is Pink Piggie  :hooray:

 

Character Descriptions

- Cr @alleram95


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Chae Song Hwa (Female, Medical School Class 1999, Associate Professor of Neurosurgery/ 40)

 

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A charisma comes from a small body! A professor who is respected by her juniors, a permanent fixture inside the hospital, got questioned when she eat and sleep, known as ‘ghost’.  ‘Brain’, an unknown world, got called as the small universe of our body! Attracted to that mystical charm, she has been going back and forth from hospital to home and back to hospital for the last 10 years.Song Hwa is the hospital permanent fixture ghost and become the only female professor in neurosurgery. If she gives up now, then she has to hear the words ‘woman tends to do that’ again. In front of my juniors, they called me ‘the only female professor’, a horrible title that I didn’t want to stick. No matter what prosecution and deprivation or discrimination I had to face, I won’t give up and will endure it again and again.

 

In contrast to the appearance of a girl in a small body, on the inside she is strong and meaningful. In the unusual medical school of class 99, inside a four person room, she is the owner of the leadership in that room. To the patients she is a kind doctor and to her juniors she is a professor whom they can trust and follow.

 

During her busy schedules, she read the juniors’ thesis meticulously, and the first person to come for emergency surgery. In front of the operating table, to her juniors, Song Hwa’s expressions that is sharper than the scalpel, she is respected and acts a symbol of hope who can save a life.

No love can win against Song Hwa wishes to save the patients’ life. Of course she had a first love. At the age of 20 years-old, that time when the youth of the year burned Song Hwa with love. After that, she has no particular memory about dating or sad farewell.Song Hwa life hospital, patient and thesis! With these 3, her life is perfect.


Living as hospital ‘ghost’ all she got is neck pain (or herniated cervical disk) and gluttonous appetite.

 

The only pleasure for Song Hwa is going alone and camping in the peaceful nature. Someday, buying a cool camping car and going for a nationwide tour, that are Song Hwa’s small dreams.

 

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Ahn Jeong Won (Male / Medical School Class 1999, Assistant Professor, Pediatric Surgery / 40 years old)

 

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Schweitzer, no he even beat Confucius and Mencius. He has an angelic personality.  Even though he is Catholic, his nickname is ‘Buddha’ in the hospital.

The hospital bed is more familiar with the children’s cry rather than their parents’ embrace. The rage of the parents who are feeling empty, didn’t know where they have to rant and the heartbreaking cries of pediatric surgeons. In pediatric surgery, when your heart is more tired than your body, Jeong Won’s warmth brings comfort and hope.  He might feel tired after being a doctor for the last 20 years, but he has never shown his anger towards the guardian and his patients or even with his colleagues.  That’s why his nickname is ‘Buddha’. No matter even if he is a Catholic.Of course, his ‘kindness’ doesn’t work for his group of classmates. If you’re not angry, then what is he doing? His stubbornness and being sensitive are the basics, and can hold a grudges too.  Over a small mistake he will have a restless night, and once he made a decision he won’t eat even a bite before he see the end of it.
 

From his university days, Jung Won was a little bit different from his peers. Naturally, people would be interested with Jeong Won, want to know about him and asked about him again and again. But ironically, no one is interested with Jeong Won and he only has 4 people remaining as his friends for 20 years.  Jeong Won’s hobby is to take a picture but he has thrown away the camera because of the children who only left their smiles inside the pictures when they’re gone. When he’s looking at the children’s name, his heart is hurting and keep thinking that being a doctor is not his way. For a long time, he wanted to be a priest, even before his older brothers or sisters. He was shaken out of his dream of being a doctor but he has never given up his dream to be a priest.
 

The love that came in his 20s, the honor that he got in his 30s, there is nothing as bright as the priest’s dream. People may laugh at the rich chaebol who was born with a golden spoon but JeongWon, like his namesake ‘a garden’ silently heads toward the thorny path.  And now, there is not much time left.

 

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All of Shin’s (his name means god :lol:) final pairings from Lee’s works have had “marriage” slipped into their script lines.

 

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Reply 1988

 

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Not only do the final pairing have marriage (note : not nondescript dating, marriage) scripted in their lines.  It is further reinforced by the parent(s) of the couple.


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Off topic so in spoilers

 


 

SongHwa Cinderella 2

 

There’s another Cinderella in the background.  She’s not showy and hardly a princess but she’s looking for her Prince too.  She lost her shoe in Ep1.  She threw it.  And JunWan picked it up and ran off with it and locked her out.  Initially I thought (and I think a fair number of others too) that JWan was her Prince.  After all he picked up her shoe?

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But we know JWan isn’t her Prince.  He’s IS’s.

 

When I replayed the scene, I realized someone else picked up something when he got in the car. His DLL (Daddy Long Legs) phone rang.

 

He threw his normal phone (just like SHwa threw her shoe)

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He picked up his DLL phone - remember this now. This is key.

...rest of the story is here :)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14p_r7pJG5TSS9pefb4UQ0J6w14M4nX3lIlyQv_X-Sj8/

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Flower Garden had its origins way back in Reply 1988.  One could say it was conceived there.  Written by Jin HakKim
 


The same rhythm segment was used in the song that plays after every episode of Hospital Playlist

 

It’s akin to Shin telling us in his usual cryptic way...Flower Garden...Flower Garden...Flower Garden.  I meant it right from the start.  Keep the faith. 
 

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The men in SongHwa’s life.  And her “framed” response (thanks PD Shin for being so deliberate) - cr midoring tumbler - Flower Gardeners are such a creative bunch.  

 

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First IkJoon.  

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Then ChiHong

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A headache she could do without 

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Then there’s sweet JeongWon who holds her in the highest esteem 

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She saves her best smiles for him.  Always has time for her JeongWon.  

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Modus operandi (First snow) for Lee/Shin

Reply 1988 - it doesn’t have to be direct.  Confession doesn’t have to be “flashy”.  It can be as simple as asking her to go out to a movie (just the 2 of you).  Taek and DeokSun.

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And our Flower Garden couple.  JWon’s decided to stay to save more lives.  True to his altruistic character.  And he broke the news to her first!  SHwa is deliriously happy.  Look at her glowing face.  He’s not leaving.  He’s with her.  On the night of first snow (Dec3 2019 https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2019/12/281_279708.html).  And that’s enough said (for the couple that is locked in - bassist and drummer - they know each other so well it’s as good as a confession).  Not flashy.  

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First snow was also a thing in Reply 1994 - Na Jung directly confessed her true feelings to Trash oppa on the first day snow as well (Ep10).  Chilbongie kissed NaJung New Year’s Eve... and that relationship didn’t work out in the end.  

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They went to watch MiDo’s musical?  With JaeHak? :lol: (Cr mido_ring Insta).  Or some other get together?  O be still my shipping heart.  JWon and SHwa.  Always supportive. :please:
 

O yes. YYS did say his favorite resident was JaeHak.  So he’s supporting his favs.  :wub:
 

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Thanks for creating the thread @nrllee :smile:

 

Actually Mido and Jaehak are currently in same musical. The three boys went to support their two favorite co-stars:blush:

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1 hour ago, miracle23 said:

Thanks for creating the thread @nrllee :smile:

 

Actually Mido and Jaehak are currently in same musical. The three boys went to support their two favorite co-stars:blush:


Yeah I thought so.  Nice of them to go watch.  YYS should be in Werther soon?  So MiDo may return the favor and watch with the others too.   The musical theater fraternity is a close bunch.  
 

I was wondering why there was this strange conversation SHwa had with IJ about her dad’s hearing aid.

 

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It’s because women are known to marry men that are like their fathers.  It’s a well documented fact in psychology.  JWon doesn’t like to spend money on himself either.  It’s another clue planted in there.

 

:biubiu: these emojis are cute. 

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Yes @nrllee, it was included in our updated hint list which I am keeping WIP. Both PG and Shwa's dad practise frugality. :)

 

Werther will start in late Aug. but the casts have met today and probably practise will start soon after. There will be 5 actors playing Werther so YYS's schedule is not that pack for musical. He will be busy promoting his movie The Summit 2 starting this week till premiere sometime in Aug.

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12 hours ago, nrllee said:

The story of the pink plastic lighter (as told by Dinosaur Ridge tumblr.  Ingenious and ties everything up so nicely) :ilike:

PD has even painted a pink glow in the photo (specifically for the persons involved).


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:approves: well done for spotting the links!

 

Is there a gif with JW having the pink lighter in his hand.  When did IJ give the pink lighter back to JW.  I did not see that.  

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15 minutes ago, angelwingssf said:

Is there a gif with JW having the pink lighter in his hand.  When did IJ give the pink lighter back to JW.  I did not see that


There isn’t one.  It’s assumed.  IJ returned it to him.

 

Final pairings in Shin’s dramas know each well.  They can read each other’s thoughts.  From Reply 1988 SunWoo and Bora.

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Our a Flower Garden couple are psychics.  They read each other so well.:hooray2:

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Reading articles on interviews done by Shin accurately requires one to distinguish between the words of the reporter (filler paragraphs) and what he actually said.

 

Take this one https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/047/0002274702 (snippet) - reporter’s words. Shin’s words. My notes

 

The affectionate romance between Lee Ik-joon (Cho Jung-seok) and Ahn Chi-hong (Kim Joon-han) toward Chae Song-hwa (Jeon Mi-do) has especially drawn much attention. In the play, Lee Ik-joon secretly liked Chae Song-hwa for 20 years, but at the time, his friend Yang Seok-hyung (played by Kim Dae-myung) confessed to Song-hwa first, but he gave up after learning that he was dumped. After marrying a new person, Ik-jun, who is only left with Woo-joo (played by Kim Joon) after his recent divorce, begins to show his feelings toward Song-hwa again.

 

On the other hand, resident Ahn Chi-hong, who works with Chae Song-hwa in neurosurgery, has been a one-sided lover of Song-hwa for many years since he came to Yulje Hospital as an intern. In the end, he expressed his feelings to Song Hwa, but he did not receive any particular answer. While the drama clearly showed the feelings of the two men, Songhwa's feelings were almost hidden. Many critics have criticized the move as a departure from the recent trend of pop culture, which values female narratives. 

 

There was also a scene in which Ahn Chi-hong and Lee Ik-jun, who recognized each other's feelings, had a subtle battle of nerves. Despite this, many said that the confrontation between the two men, who do not care who Songhwa really likes, felt uncomfortable. Producer Shin Won-ho explained, "We couldn't show everything." He also hinted that the story will be drawn later in season 2.

 

“For a meaningful season, I thought each season should have a different color and phase. While the basis of the small story of people living in the hospital was the same, other points had to be designed differently. Chae Song-hwa's mind may also be a point that can be included in the "other" point.

 

Also, I thought that our drama should not be shaken because it is not just about romance. In particular, a professional doctor like a doctor has a patient in front of me, so I hoped that Melo would not invade the character's life. So if you focus on the melodrama, it might have seemed that the character's innermost thoughts were not well revealed. Above all, there was no reason for Chae Song-hwa to express her feelings in the drama. Not everyone lives preparing for love. It wasn't a situation where Chae Song-hwa would choose "Who do I like?" for reasons such as the hurt of her love affair. Those situations came at the end of the first season, and wouldn't Chae Song-hwa's story be drawn next season?"

 

In fact, it is also a characteristic of Shin Won-ho's drama that does not clearly show the minds of characters in the drama and uses them as an element of reversal. In "hospital playlist," Ahn Jung-won (played by Yoo Yeon-seok) tried hard to hide his feelings for Jang Woo-wul (played by Shin Hyun-bin), a surgical resident who had a crush on him for a long time. In the last episode, Jeong Won responded with a kiss to the confession of GU, and the drama belatedly showed the fact that Jeong Won has also liked GU.  

 

As a result, there are always a number of viewers who analyze the love front with only one prop and one scene in PD's drama. Many drama fans are already familiar with Shin Won-ho's "fishing" method. That's why every time a drama is aired, there is a fierce debate among fans who support different couples. Shin also said, "I heard from the staff. Because there were many things hidden in the previous work, it seems that they don't want to see our work as it is. "I made them pick up the habit (laugh)," he responded cheerfully.

 

For Shin, when he playfully says people don’t want to see the work as is, it’s because for him, he’s already set the end game from the beginning, it’s clear as day who should end up with who - just like for him Taek was always going to end up with DS (right from the start), he said so in another interview and he was unapologetic that many thought JungHwan would be the one.  That’s how he does all his dramas.  Everything works towards an end.  And the couples align with his core values.  Every drama he’s done has the same core values running as a common thread.  Hospital playlist is no different.  Figure out his core values, and you will know who the end game is.  And you can work it out from his previous works.  Variations on a theme.

 

He then revealed that there were some scenes in the upcoming "hospital playlist" that could be a hint of Song Hwa and Ik-jun's melodramatic feelings. Shin said, "We did have emotional lines. In the first meeting of the five '99s', I thought it would be good if you noticed it because it's not just Melo's drama, but there's nothing you can do about it, just like when Songhwa entered the warehouse and looked for Ik-jun, or when she first met him, put her hand on Song-hwa's shoulder and put a light flush on Song-hwa's face with CG. At the same time, producer Shin Won-ho said, "We will not disclose the answers to the detailed analysis and speculation of viewers in the producer Shin Won-ho." The answer gave us a glimpse of Shin's conviction and philosophy.

 

He is replying to the complaints by viewers that his emotional lines (specifically between IJ and SHwa) were not clear.  And he explained that it was there.  People just wanted more than he was prepared to give.  In another interview he added that a love in a person’s 20s is not like a love in a person’s 40s.  And he’s absolutely right.  SHwa may have had a thing for IJ in her 20s.  Although I would say a faint blush isn’t confirmation.  She may have been embarrassed.  There needs to be a confession to verify it.  Shin was just implying that there was something there.  Whether it was mutual or fleeting wasn’t confirmed.  Whilst she may have allowed IJ crossing the line in her 20s, she is obviously not keen on it now in her 40s.  She’s an independent competent professional woman.  She knows her mind now.  She knows what she likes and doesn’t like.  She is no longer after a giddy school girl romance.  She is after a steady partner who she can depend on and can be relied on to back her views and not patronize her.  

 

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note - Shin would’ve told MiDo to lean into YYS’s shoulder in that hug.  It’s NOT a natural response to just put your head on his shoulder with a casual hug.  It was intentional.  JWon is someone she leans/relies on :wub:

 

"In terms of ownership, it may be the drama of the production team until it is released, but the moment it is released to the viewers, the drama becomes the viewer's. It is up to viewers to see how they bite, pinch, twist, and enjoy the drama, not to be involved in directing. So, I think it is right to say yes or no about any speculation, so I think it is right not to give any details."

 

What’s he saying here?  He’s saying don’t tell me how to do my job.  I am PD.  You are the audience.  I have my methods.  It’s your responsibility as a viewer to do with my artistic endeavor as you will.  And he’s right.  It’s up to the viewer to interpret as they will.  The viewer owns the responsibility of making those deductions, right or wrong.

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Oh @nrllee, you got that right! Yes, I also read his answer as you did. He is not gonna give more details. He will do his job and viewers do theirs without interfering with the production work. Thanks @nrllee^^

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I love it when Netflix agrees with me.  Thus far the only thumbnail that features SHwa with another person is the one with JWon.  Flower Garden :foryou:


The others

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The rhythm section of a band


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In any band, the bassist and drummer share a unique relationship.  They constitute the rhythm section of a band.


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Locking in means that the bass drum and bass need to be playing the exact same rhythm from bar to bar.


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A strong relationship between bass and drums is the foundation to every great band. You can be a great drummer, or a great bass player, but if you don’t know how the two work together, you are missing it.

 

Good communication between bass and drums is one of the most important factors in any band. Every drummer and bassist play differently, so learning how to connect and adapt your playing style to lock in with each other is key.


Shin would’ve done his research.  His insistence on the instruments that the various characters played was deliberate.  He “locked in” (pun intended :lol:) the final pairing from the start (like he always does in his dramas and he even said so in an interview for HP, he fixed the ending and wrote a story to that end).  
 

When Shin cast the members for the fab5, he already had fixed the instruments for the various characters (he said so in an interview).  And he was adamant.  If you were SHwa, you HAD TO play the bass guitar.  If you were JeongWon, you HAD TO play the drums.  He wasn’t budging on that.  In fact in a recent interview he actually said he was so concerned that the cast wouldn’t be able to get to a level that was required to film live, he would have stand ins to film on their behalf.  MiDo never played the bass before so she had to start from the very beginning.  Similarly, YYS had to learn to play the drums.  It would’ve been a lot easier to allow the cast to choose the instruments they were most comfortable in playing?  Shin’s assertion that they would play the instruments of his bidding is evidence that it is integral to the plot and story.  It’s no coincidence that the OST that plays at the end of every episode has the exact same rhythm beat as the song Flower Garden from Reply 1988.  It’s akin to Shin saying at the end of every episode that the end game is Flower Garden.  Everything is working towards that end.

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Confessions (are not flashy)

 

Interesting in that this band practice in Ep10 is the only one where JWon sings.  And only in part.  IJ sings part of the song as well.  Shin plays with camera angles and scene splicing to highlight who they are both singing about/to (making silent promises).


IJ’s segment of the song

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To SHwa. :wub:
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And just in case you missed it, Shin does it again.

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EDIT - And Ep 10 is where the hug and the “let’s get married” proposal (SHwa to JWon) happened as well (paradoxically IJ proposed to Jang indirectly as well via the whole flowers ruse :lol:).  And it was when Beyond The Rainbow Forest was released.  The song where Flower Garden song (from Reply1988) played in the rhythmic background. 

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Mimicry (couples)


cr https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/science-choice/201601/why-we-copy-each-other-and-5-ways-it-can-change-us

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The imitation of emotional expressions increases social interactions and interpersonal bonding. We create a sense of similarity by imitating each other in various ways. Couples with the greatest similarity have shown the strongest emotional connection.


cr https://www.bustle.com/articles/133248-5-reasons-couples-start-to-act-alike

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Long-term couples act alike not because they want to become really annoying to their mates and terrify their single friends, but because they're obeying a basic rule of human psychology and neurochemistry: we're exceptionally good imitators — of everything from speech to body language to emotion. And the longer we do it, the better we are.


From Reply 1988 (Bora and SunWoo)

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And there are a few instances where JWon massages his neck as well.  Mirroring SHwa’s neck problems.


Neither will hesitate to tell their residents off for doing the wrong thing.

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