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I understand that the one who CJ loves is Sobong not Soyong, but anyway I still prefer everything to go back into its place for the ending. Instead of a "just" happy ending, I wanted a more "fair and equitable" happy ending. First, I personally think Bong Hwan didn't make any mistake in 2020 so he doesn't deserve to be punished to live in Joseon Era for the rest of his life. Second, maybe all of you thought that what Soyong did by jumping into the lake is a suicide, but for me it's desperation. You know when people got desperate they kinda try anything to get their problem solved. So, just before she jumped she prob thought "Anybody please help me, if the deity exists, please show me your mercy and help me," instead of just simply, "I'll kill myself."


In conclusion, personally, I thought both Bong Hwan and So Yong didn't commit any sins in their life. Soyong was blinded by her guilty feeling toward her mother's death so she obeyed everything that her father wanted her to be, prepared herself to become a righteous Queen, and then just to feel betrayed by her father indirectly through Kim Jwa Geun's request. And in 2020, Bong Hwan is a dutiful son too, he said he's a slave to his parents because he's the only son. So, both of them need to get their own "fair and equitable" happy ending. Even though I like everything to go back to normal, it doesn't mean that I am against any other versions of the ending, I am actually open for every possibilities. Peace!

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The Tale Of The King’s Failed Mission   Our king had a very important mission, he even sent his brother away in order to succeed in his task.   5 minutes later.  

Watching it with subs made the final episode even worse.   I’m so tired of people saying So Bong was only influenced by So Yong’s emotions and feelings. You people had your happy generic het

8 hours ago, louisawatson said:

Yeah, I agree, Kim Byeong In didn't do anything irredeemable like Haw Jin had done with the book, so i still hope for him becoming an ally. 

 

But I believe going behind his father is a good trait since his father is a villain. He just thought grand queen dowager would care more about So Bong if he becomes helpful. After all, she is the part of royal family, not his father.

Perhaps he'll have  to make the "Sixteen going on seventeen" kid's decision. Remember Liesl's boyfriend from Sound of Music who had the choice to rat the family out to the Nazis or help them escape danger for her sake? Hopefully Kim Byeong will redeem himself.

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So far there have been sad moments and also hilarious moment within the drama.

Not going to think too much of the ending as I am already pretty invested and will watch til the end.

 

I hope there is an epilogue of sorts (plus we do have the backstory 10 mins episodes coming up!) and I will just take in whatver ending they throw at me.

 

Definitely not the Scarlet Heart route......I am still hoping for a Season 2 (happier one!)

 

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5 hours ago, skinnyjeans said:

Which book do you think CJ showing SB? The dictionary oorrrr the kamasutra book? hahahaha:joy: He looks so excited showing it to SB...:naughty: But I guess it's the queen's dictionary.....

 

It seems SB realized how seductive she is and regret offering CJ Ramyon? :sweat_smile: She must be talking to herself again hehehe

 

looks like no sexy make out cene after the ramyeon invite? :Furious:

They're still so cute doing anything together though :kiss_wink:

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6 hours ago, aisling said:

Does any anybody know why the production team chose real historical figures? Wouldn’t it be easier to make up some non-existing king and do whatever they want with him? They’ve been bombarded constantly by complaints about historical inaccuracies. 
 

Because Cheoljong is a historical figure I very much doubt Cheoljong would ever find out about real Jang Bong Hwan. I think someone mentioned that in a novel the king knew about a man’s soul inside his queen’s body but he didn’t care. But can you imagine the huge backlash if Mr Queen tried to imply that one of their Joseon king liked men? I think tvN would get sued if they even try to hint at that LMAO.

 

That's why I think So Yong and Bong Hwan share the soul.

This drama always use the line or scene in the past episode as the reference in the future episode so why would So Bong mentioned about reincarnation, parallel life in the past episode if it wasn't a clue for the future episode?

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When I watch this scene at first, I'm also really thought that he will sketch it seriously LOL

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Passionate comradeship? Yeah, bring it on!

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But the book they were fighting for and the book that he showing to her is different though.

Will So Bong finally see her king special book?:P

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8 hours ago, maria_m2me said:

As we're talking about the ending now. As I ever shared before here that I prefer novel version ending than the webdrama version.

I know that's hard to get that kind of ending, like in original novel version. Because in novel version, it said that he actually should be born as a woman. Ending in novel, even the Empress still like to flirt women but the Empress love the Emperor, the Empress accepted current condition and responsibilities as a wife and a mother for their children.

 

If we will get our Royal Baby soon, I hope that will make our SB choose to stay and become the Queen who strengthen CJ. And if they choose to follow the webdrama and novel, in the end, CJ himself will exile all Concubine.

Yeah I dunno for this drama. Maybe they will make CJ to take more concubine, to enlarge his power through many clans. But CJ maybe will be like The Emperor in webdrama or novel story, CJ every night will sleep with different concubine every night but actually he will not do anything. {The reason The Emperor sleep with his concubine every night because The Empress already made schedule that The Emperor should be fair for all his women. So The Emperor did it every night so he could be with The Empress and also protect The Empress from jealousy} The only woman he touches only his Queen. That's why the concubine never get pregnant nor has child. CJ only has children from SB.

 

That's kinda of happy ending from novel. [I will not give you more spoiler anymore - you can read it yourself later for the novel]

That's why I like to read the novel more than watch the webdrama.

Do you know where can we read the novel? Is it available with english translation? what's the title? :please:

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Based upon the latest stills from TVn, this week episode will be focus on SoBongie and CheoJongie's relationship development. I hope we will get diabetes from all of the sweetness BUT can I say that it seems to be a calm before the storm??? Per the usual formula of this drama, they will have us hanging dangerously over the cliff at the end of Sunday episode. I am dreading and exciting at the same time for this week episodes.

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The tenet ending might work...cos the skill set needed in SY’s time... ability to cook as a way to save the banquet...

but ya these time travel concept unless very well written creates a lot of chaos in the storyline 

the fact that sobong keeps blacking out during their make out sessions leads me to think  that they are not really going to deal with an lgbt theme per se...

BH is no longer a male soul in SY body but rather a soul in SY body or more likely a merged soul in SY body.

obviously spending too much time on this... 

was there another body swap drama where the guy was like checking out his own bod?

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Tbh, in term of bedroom art I would say SoBong is more skillful than CheolJong. SoBong gains his from a hand on experience not to mention she was a HE while CheolJong is only learning from books. 
 

CheolJong should throws all of his porn books and focuses on learning from SoBong. He tasted it already, experience is the best teacher....:coolshades:

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Meanwhile, I'm simply having fun at all these homophobic-haters getting their panties in a twist at the gender-bender antics and not being able to identify the object of their hate, because the writers made the genius decision: 'let's make the straight stuff look homosexual, and the gay scenes look straight....':joy:
Haters: *confused pikachu face*
Ooof!:skull::skull:

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2 hours ago, cenching said:

Tbh, in term of bedroom art I would say SoBong is more skillful than CheolJong. SoBong gains his from a hand on experience not to mention she was a HE while CheolJong is only learning from books. 
 

CheolJong should throws all of his porn books and focuses on learning from SoBong. He tasted it already, experience is the best teacher....

I like how Cheoljong listens and learns from So Bong, I'm sure he'll be a very diligent student in this area :partyblob:
I ended up reading the web novel in a hurry in the last two days and I also read The Scarlet Pimpernel @Raffles (I see the similarities, the clever wife and the dumb-but-secretly-clever husband, misunderstandings, longing etc etc- quite impressed that this novel/play was published in 1905!) - and @maria_m2me mentioned the web novel's ending is satisfactory because there were no open conflicts like BH being in a coma. I'm not thinking about the ending of Mr. Queen just yet since we have at least 2 more weeks barring this weekend (and this weekend's almost here!)
 

Having read (I don't really know if I "read" it but I did furiously skim through it :joy:) the original novel (which is at times confusing but hilarious as well), I really like Cheoljong's characterisation in Mr. Queen - he's level headed (except when So Bong is in danger), he's not a jerk (unlike the lead in the web novel), he's quite open about his feelings and tries his best to make things work (he understands, admits and regrets his earlier cold nature towards SY) - this guy is setting new standards honestly - I adore how he becomes a puppy with So Bong - their night time interactions are my favourite - I'm counting on So Bong to take charge now since she's awoken to new possibilities :gangnamstyle:

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11 hours ago, aisling said:

Does any anybody know why the production team chose real historical figures? Wouldn’t it be easier to make up some non-existing king and do whatever they want with him? They’ve been bombarded constantly by complaints about historical inaccuracies. 
 

Because Cheoljong is a historical figure I very much doubt Cheoljong would ever find out about real Jang Bong Hwan. I think someone mentioned that in a novel the king knew about a man’s soul inside his queen’s body but he didn’t care. But can you imagine the huge backlash if Mr Queen tried to imply that one of their Joseon king liked men? I think tvN would get sued if they even try to hint at that LMAO.

I'm no korean or historical junky but with all due respect I like how the production is trying to reframe the king's struggles as a puppet king. It's like writing a fanfiction of what they think could have been instead of what's in the official narrative, of course there's a lot of dramatization but I like its spin on not judging something solely on appearance. In that sense, I find it quite refreshing even though strictly speaking, this trope is nothing new.

 

I have not read/watch GPG but I'm still speculating that byeong-in will end up as the overprotective pining warrior rather than the jealous antagonist. I believe his first priority is to safeguard her life rather than to possess her romantically. It looks like he's going to go against KJG for trying to kill the queen. Bear in mind up until now, he has only caught up with the fact that the king was the oktajeong assassin and not yet aware of the growing genuine feelings that the king has for the queen. Yes the queen told him to stay out of her affairs but his overprotective instinct go into overdrive because he took it that the queen is trying to take care of matters herself. I think he will come around once he processed that the king no longer poses a threat to the queen and may ally with them against those who meant harm to the queen. 

 

I would like pregnancy to be a plot device but from how much we still don't know in the little time we are left with the drama, it doesn't seem likely to me. I will happily stand corrected (fingers crossed as in hopeful and not bluffing mr queen version)

 

Lastly I hope we will be treated into another REAL make out scene ala ep 9. Excuse my fantasy in broad daylight:

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Some action scene where king is fighting to protect the queen and got knocked out..

 

He wakes up in a room basked in golden glow of candlelight, nursing some injury to his upper body which requires him to expose his chest (something like what we see in ep 15 preview when sobong is staring at him in his warrior garb, personally i'd like to see his shoulder, chest and abs..)

 

At first he had thought he had lost her but she was there. Thnking that it was his dream, all his inhibition/ pretense vanished. Who they are or what they are going through fade into the background just because he was grateful he still sees her.

 

(cue king's ost - like a star)

 

Gazing at her longingly he traced the curve of her cheeks with the back of his hand and removed her hairpin and traced the length of her braided hair before removing her hair ribbon. (Although physically impossible, imagine queen's hair down and swept to one side just because she looks stunning that way..) Queen too stunned/ swoon at this point to do anything about it (SHS swoon look essential in any romantic scene)

 

"It was you. It was always you, right from the start. How can I be so blind?" With that, his hand move to the back of her head as he leaned in to kiss her. They made out for a good 10 second before camera zoom into something else and the rest lives in our imagination :joy:

 

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2 hours ago, cenching said:

Tbh, in term of bedroom art I would say SoBong is more skillful than CheolJong. SoBong gains his from a hand on experience not to mention she was a HE while CheolJong is only learning from books. 
 

CheolJong should throws all of his porn books and focuses on learning from SoBong. He tasted it already, experience is the best teacher....

 

Well to be fair, the King called Mr. Queen a "tigress" the day after and was clearly very impressed, so I think he's already learning from her/him. :D

 

I don't think the Concubine has any chance of bedding the King now that the King has experienced the hot passion of Mr. Queen.... bwahaha :D

 

Yeah, concubine....

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4 hours ago, ichaichaparadise said:

Do you know where can we read the novel? Is it available with english translation? what's the title?

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The title is - The Promotion Record of A Crown Princess - just google it, you'll get the relevant links :)

 

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7 minutes ago, partyon said:

I don't think the Concubine has any chance of bedding the King now that the King has experienced the hot passion of Mr. Queen.... bwahaha :D

 

 

 

Tigress (SoBong) vs banana barks (concubines):shaq: Easy peasy lemon squeezy choice to make....:twerk2:

 

@partyon

Are you up to date with Mr Queen???

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6 hours ago, skinnyjeans said:

Which book do you think CJ showing SB? The dictionary oorrrr the kamasutra book? hahahaha:joy: He looks so excited showing it to SB...:naughty: But I guess it's the queen's dictionary.....

I think it is book that Cheoljong gave in episode 6 with letter no-touch with red flower painting. Change of Zhou, the book (actually just the cover, because we all know the content already change with kamasutra book muahaha) that SoBong interested in, in episode 1.

 

Aaah i always waiting them having deep talk or whatever conversation like when they are gone out to eat gukbap. Or pillow talk, i want to see them sharing their story in warm-cozy situation :3

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4 minutes ago, cenching said:

 

@partyon

Are you up to date with Mr Queen???

 

Yup, have been watching the drama diligently from the start :glasses:

 

By the way, not sure if it was mentioned on this thread but the picture that Choi Jin Hyuk posted on his Instagram had another caption at first. Apparently it said "sick currently, this & that’(아프네 요즘. 이래저래)" before he revised the line to "Sick Bonghwan"

 

That would allude to the fact that Choi Jin Hyuk might be ill at the moment or is recovering from illness.


I wouldn't therefore draw any conclusions from the post with regard to Mr.Queen

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