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Some mush to help us get through the week, and it is only Monday!  Thanks for helping us survive the week, after a rather unexpected onslaught on our senses.

 

:wub::wub::wub: for all the incorrigible romantics out there. :lol:

 

 

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The Tale Of The King’s Failed Mission   Our king had a very important mission, he even sent his brother away in order to succeed in his task.   5 minutes later.  

Watching it with subs made the final episode even worse.   I’m so tired of people saying So Bong was only influenced by So Yong’s emotions and feelings. You people had your happy generic het

9 hours ago, kwayteow_mama said:

yeah agree. he saw her at the kitchen. he must have noticed she's not at the banquet. the funny writing, bizarre food.. it's all too obvious. i can't see him being oblivious to the fact short of a crazy plot twist or miss. but in all the current excitement we just missed his reaction or maybe it will be shown later on..

 

 

Yeah that would be nice.

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10 hours ago, kehrite said:

I love sageuks and have seen plenty of evil scheming officials, but Minister Kim (or whatever his official title is) is SO HATEABLE! That last scene was hard to watch, with that subtle smugness and triumph in his face. I said in a previous comment that Kim Jung-hyun's acting is impressing me but it bears repeating after this episode. It was heartbreaking to see him forced into submission in front of the court, you could just see the weight of that hopelessness settling on his shoulders. Can't wait to see Minister Kim get his comeuppance and the king's authority to finally be respected. 

totally agree with you here - I've watched a lot of historical dramas as well (both kdramas and cdramas) and I never felt so shaken/agitated/involved as I did at the end of ep 12. For me, a lot of it probably is because of Kim Jung Hyun's amazing portrayal - his dejection and helplessness was so palpable and the way he reached out to So Bong and vice versa - one of the best scenes so far in this drama. (All of their "intense" scenes are so rewatchable and satisfying, I've probably watched the truth serum argument scene more times than I can count - I was very taken by Shin Hye Sun then (I still am) but over the episodes KJH's acting spectrum is also equally impressive)

 

10 hours ago, kwayteow_mama said:

there is somehow a cosmic affinity between the two, something like soyong/sobong being the guardian angel to the king and i also wonder how the events from the joseon timeline will ultimately influence bonghwan's modern reality.

yes - maybe that's what it means to be "soulmates" - I mean he so formal with Hwa Jin even when she's supposedly his "love" but he comes alive whenever he's with So Bong. 

I don't worry too much about the timelines stuff since it's a fantasy fiction and they've already put the disclaimer that it is fiction. What do want is justice to all the major characters - the writing has been impressive so far - so I hope they deliver on that front.

I had issues with the cousin character in the beginning episodes when he kissed a very visibly distraught So Yong- it felt very wrong. This dude has some serious repressed feelings issues - I mean, he's fallen down to the level of almost kissing a sleeping person. I want to see more character growth for him - he might have fallen in love with So Yong but So Bong is not So Yong. (although he may not realise or accept it) I hope he makes peace with the idea that the royal couple should be together. He is clearly suffering a lot. 

The make-out session of our royal couple - I am again guilty of watching it faaaaar too many times - while it does start out as a cover for the king (here I was/am hesitant because the king clearly could "use" the queen for furthering his own agenda) - I was absolutely in once So Bong starts taking charge and their tussle for taking leading is just pure magic - like two raging fires feeding on one another. (such a delight against the usual mellow and passive kiss scenes) 

Now that I am a little free, the wait for the weekend seems like a long struggle lol. 

4 hours ago, aisling said:

Mr Queen isn’t even over and I’m already longing to see our leads together in a modern drama. Kim Jung Hyun himself said he would like to be cast with Shin Hye Sun again. From what I can see he has great respect for her as an actress. It’s also cute they both like to chew bubblegum (they both chewed it in today’s IG live stream). People started to call their offscreen ship “Bubblegum couple.”


Gosh, they’re so cute I want to pinch their cheeks!

they are so adorable right! :fullofhearts:
KJH also mentioned that SHS balances him out because he felt that he was always running in the drama and that she would keep them grounded. (from what I remember from one of their interviews) It must have been such a privilege and a delight to work with an incredibly talented cast - everyone fits their roles so well! The stars are aligned with this drama! ^_^

 

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@confusedheart326 I feel your rage, sister! I was so furious watching the king being humiliated and defeated I just wanted to kick something in frustration! I think it speaks of the whole Mr Queen team’s skills to make us this involved and this outraged. I literally felt my heart beat faster when that evil man, Kim Jwa Geun, started threatening the king. How bloody dares he speak like this to the king? I want to slap that smug smile right off of his annoying face!!!

 

I just want Cheoljong to win once against his enemies. Just once, please let him be victorious... Hasn’t he suffered enough? Was murdering his family and turning him into a king that everybody mocked not enough??? I’m so enraged right now I can’t think straight!

 

Can So Bong stay indifferent to Cheoljong after witnessing it? Please, let So Bong step up her game and help him to become the strong king. So no one would ever trample upon him!

 

When Cheoljong was pleading to the skies with tears running down his cheeks I started crying too... Kim Jung Hyun delivered one of the best moments of the whole series. I hope he’ll get the same recognition as Shin Hye Sun after this drama.

 

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Episode 12 was absolutely amazing and the ending was a shocker but a clever one indeed. This drama have one of the best cliffhanger endings that make one look so forward to the next episode lol.

 

Without doubt, KJH is a really good actor, and I don't want to repeat how ingenious of the casting team who cast him with Hyesun. The dynamics and chemistry of these two is what make the show shines. And enough to leave me glued to the show despite of me not being a saeguk fan and the heavy politics, though I must say I can watch anything with Hyesun anyway.

 

It's so amusing that King can talk so much about the dish with a mere scribbled drawing :lol:. I don't know but I'm sure he knows it's the Queen! With these heavy politicking in the episode, seeing Sobong dressed like a cute man turning up at the Royal Kitchen thinking no one knows who she is, is such a lively scene. Enjoyed her cooking show so much with the Royal Physician and Royal Chef providing so much laughs!

 

Byeongin is getting obnoxiously irritating and obsessed. I hate it that he has literally no respect for the King which took away whatever pity I have left for this character. Wonder why some people still have that SLS. :sweatingbullets:

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I also want to talk about Cheoljong’s intelligence. We all know there’s a sharp side to him, but I was still astonished by his memory skills and quick wit.

 

When he told So Bong this: 

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I thought he was exaggerating, but then he wrote down EVERY single alien word she said to him in the Queen’s Dictionary. He remembered it all, even the words she said just once or thoughtlessly in passing! 
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Then at the banquet he came up with all the food explanations on a spot! Of course So Bong helped him with the name of the meal but he still needed to think of the rest. 
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So he must be pretty smart, right? Now imagine if the king’s intelligence joined So Bong’s craftiness! What a team they would make!

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2 hours ago, Ni Wen said:

Byeongin is getting obnoxiously irritating and obsessed. I hate it that he has literally no respect for the King which took away whatever pity I have left for this character. Wonder why some people still have that SLS. :sweatingbullets:

The entire Kim clan has no respect for the King, but they still bow at least and address him as king.

The Concubine has no respect for the Queen, but she just glares/ignores the queen and doesn't even properly say goodbyes or bow. Now she even "accidentally" shot her. Sighs. And still Mr Queen tries to get along with her. He is so patient. Or wilfully blind.

 

In any case, I'm assuming that the explosion will get pinned on the Kim clan, but I feel like the Dowager queen was responsible. 

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In the preview of episode 13, So Young says "Recover as if nothing ever happened so I can stab you in the back". I am actually confused... I am not so sure if it is "stab you in the back" or "stab you back" because I only watch the Engsub version. What she means in Korean may be different. However, neither means positive. 

 

I recalled Hwa Jin once told So Young right before she jumped into the lake that she knew So Young tried to kill the King. Back then, I thought Hwa Jin referred to the Kim clan attempting to kill Cheoljong when he was young. Moreover, So Young was trying to remember a mission she had to do when she and Cheoljoing were on the way back to the palace. Out of a sudden, I do think that So Young failed to kill Cheoljong and Hwa Jin knew it, thus she decided to commit suicide because she won't survive either way when the Kim clan kills her to suppress evidence or when Hwa Jin tells Cheoljong the truth. I would love to hear your opinion guys. :grin:

 

Although this is the least expected scenario to me, I can't exclude it after watching the last episode. Expect the unexpected. :sweat_smile:

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11 hours ago, aisling said:

Kim Jung Hyun was phenomenal in this episode. He’s been amazing since the start but he got more opportunity to show it fully in episode 12. Shin Hye Sun is so charismatic she can easily overshadow her leading man, but luckily for her (and for us) Kim Jung Hyun is at the same level. 
 

Everyone is swooning over him on Twitter :heart: Can you imagine anyone else playing this dual role?

YES! He was outstanding. :sparklyeyes:

This is the closest he's been to his acting in "Time". His performance was super intense and detailed. Kim Jung Hyun is an acting genius and I'm SO glad he's finally getting the recognition he deserves. I'm over the moon with the combination of these two powerhouses. SHS and KJH are setting the bar so high for the upcoming dramas and their casts. Mr.Queen really had it all. I'm gonna miss it and the cast a lot when it's over. 

 

LOL. I'll call it the KJH effect because it's become a thing: as soon as his characters get development, the audience gets fully attached to them (and him) because his acting makes them endearing. I can't imagine anyone else pulling off this character because it requires a huge acting spectrum and an actor who can glide around genres convincingly like it's no big deal (slapstick comedy, melodrama, action, thriller, suspense, sageuk) within the same drama (and, sometimes, within the same episode). The only male actor who has convinced me when transitioning from one genre to the other (without drastically changing the tone of a scene) is Kim Jung Hyun, and the only female actress is Shin Hye Sun. It requires TONS of versatility and charisma. How many actors can go from a goofy grin to a scary glower in a matter of seconds? Very few. 

 

On another note, I kind of suspect Cheoljong planned the explosion. It would benefit him because 1) the Kims will be suspected of treason and 2) he will be able to pretend he's lost his hearing and use this as a tool to further his plans.

 

I'm really happy with the drama. :issohappy:

 

Another breathtaking MV from this YT channel. Our OTP is mesmerizing. :love:

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Phillip Lundgren said:

In the preview of episode 13, So Young says "Recover as if nothing ever happened so I can stab you in the back". I am actually confused... I am not so sure if it is "stab you in the back" or "stab you back" because I only watch the Engsub version. What she means in Korean may be different. However, neither means positive. 

 

I recalled Hwa Jin once told So Young right before she jumped into the lake that she knew So Young tried to kill the King. Back then, I thought Hwa Jin referred to the Kim clan attempting to kill Cheoljong when he was young. Moreover, So Young was trying to remember a misison she had to do when she and Cheoljoing were on the way back to the palace. Out of a sudden, I do think that So Young failed to kill Cheoljong and Hwa Jin knew it, thus she decided to commit suicide because she won't survive either way when the Kim clan kills her to suppress evidence or when Hwa Jin tells Cheoljong the truth. I would love to hear your opinion guys. :grin:

 

Although this is the least expected scenerio to me, I can't exclude it after watching the last episode. Expect the unexpected. :sweat_smile:

I think Sobong intends to "slap him at the back of the head" not "betray" like "stab in the back." She meant it literally, as is the practice in some cultures when someone does something stupid.

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8 hours ago, shimshimae said:

I had issues with the cousin character in the beginning episodes when he kissed a very visibly distraught So Yong- it felt very wrong. This dude has some serious repressed feelings issues - I mean, he's fallen down to the level of almost kissing a sleeping person. I want to see more character growth for him - he might have fallen in love with So Yong but So Bong is not So Yong. (although he may not realise or accept it) I hope he makes peace with the idea that the royal couple should be together. He is clearly suffering a lot. 

 

firstly let me start off by saying that i'm a HUGE shipper of king x queen and like many others, i am one of those crazy fan who replay the kiss scene to get through the week and i'm equally disturbed when this dude kiss the queen when she's vulnerable OR when the dude stops the queen from reaching out to the king (like wth dude?!) :rage::rage::rage:

 

minus abovesaid ethically fraught scenes, now if this drama was written from cousin pov, what i like about his love for the queen is he puts her happiness/wellbeing/safety first above all else and even as his life mission.

 

and i would say we need to see things from his shoes. u can't really blame him in the sense that the queen's only direct indication on her relationship matters so far is that she's just pretending to be lovey dovey with the king for practical reasons. so naturally, he thought the queen is in self-sacrifice mode for the clan. and then all he ever saw ever since she entered the palace is her crying, jumping into the lake, someone trying to kill her (made worst when he realized it was the king himself), her falling into vegetative mode for some mysterious reason and the king "demeaning" her by showing his affections for another woman publicly.. which also led him to call the king a possessive loser or in other words, why act all territorial when you don't even like her in the first place.. which also led him to go all like "you crazy girl [my insert] then why you even get intimate with the king when you knew that he tried to kill you/ you don't love him" (before he gets cut off by sobong crazy existential antics). 

 

as much as i hated that he stopped the queen from reaching out to the king, sure he might have been a sour grape when he did that but on the other hand, he might have worried about her safety and secondly, to avoid the clan's misunderstanding that the queen stands with the king.  

 

while sobong bailed the king out in many occasions, similarly cousin bailed her out. if he didn't come to sobong's rescue outside of oktajeong, drama would have ended at ep 2 as the case of misadventure of a husband and wife. and he did let her go in the first place because she had looked so happy to enter the palace.

 

my theory/speculation: as it stands out, it's all a big misunderstanding. he's turning into a villain out of his desire to protect the queen because he's afraid that if the king gains power, he will eliminate her. i believe he will either raise to the occasion (somehow helping the king in some way while helping the queen) or fade to oblivion once king and queen sorted out how they really feel and publicly acknowledge it.

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6 hours ago, aisling said:

@confusedheart326

 

When Cheoljong was pleading to the skies with tears running down his cheeks I started crying too... Kim Jung Hyun delivered one of the best moments of the whole series. I hope he’ll get the same recognition as Shin Hye Sun after this drama.

 

Same with you... When I watched it streaming, even though I didn't understand any words, but my heart hurts when I saw his tears and I completely felt like The Queen....

Imagine how hurt The King was and made A King cried hopelessly.

 

And same time I cursed that Royal Concubine. What she said? She came to help The Queen?!? Non sense!!!! She just wanted to keep her fake territorial around King - but she clearly knew that The Queen would easily took that from her because The Queen is the real and she's only a liar, fake. If she really wanted to help King, she would give that confidential book to the king. RickRoll'D!!!!! I hate her... Indeed she's a Queen, I meant that Royal Concubine, she's indeed Drama Queen, Makjang...

 

5 hours ago, aisling said:

I also want to talk about Cheoljong’s intelligence. We all know there’s a sharp side to him, but I was still astonished by his memory skills and quick wit.

 

I thought he was exaggerating, but then he wrote down EVERY single alien word she said to him in the Queen’s Dictionary. He remembered it all, even the words she said just once or thoughtlessly in passing! 

Then at the banquet he came up with all the food explanations on a spot! Of course So Bong helped him with the name of the meal but he still needed to think of the rest. 

 

So he must be pretty smart, right? Now imagine if the king’s intelligence joined So Bong’s craftiness! What a team they would

make!

 

I like how both the king and the queen had met their understanding without many words.

The Queen actually lil bit worried if The King could understand how to explain that meal. And then The King could explain that meal become something meaningful.

As The Queen ever said, The King indeed a politician, from simple words, The King could explained to deep meaningful words.

The Queen only drew and wrote the name of the food, but the king could explained the theme.

 

Oh yah from @sw33tm3lodyfanmade video, I just realized that every time The King asked help, the one who gave hand to help him always be The Queen, since they're little to every time he had nightmares. Just the King said, every time he had something to think, The Queen came to untie all his problem.

 

I hope The King understand that The Queen truly worried about him, that's why she asked him to stop, she worried he would get hurt.

and the way the king said sorry if that made the queen felt uncomfortable.

But please understand that even though the queen not to agree with his way, but the queen was the one who always to help him to handle the crisis.

 

Oh yah about the spin off, they said that would be like a prequel. We will get the story about the king and So Young.

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I have the feeling about the story of spin off will show their meeting again before so young become the queen.

From all the dialog between The King and his brother, I have feeling that actually from beginning The King has feeling towards The Queen. They ever met before and has fallen in love again without knew who they were. The Queen when she knew she's so happy for that, but The King when he knew suddenly he should to cut off his feeling.

Remember in their 2nd night after their wedding, his brother asked the king not let his feeling control him.

And less than 10 night after their wedding, the king completely wavering and totally couldn't deny his feeling towards the queen, he just stated that he's person who couldn't love the queen. Maybe that statement that kept repeating in his mind.

 

 

Yah, that's only my own guessing right...

 

About KJH's IG Live last night, so happy and cute.. when he called SHS to come near to him, I really could feel his lil bit clingy... Hahahahahaha... And then when he called her "Noona" and asked to do live together.

Please... IG Live together... Please heal our hearts and minds that became crazy mad because of the ending (we need to wait till Saturday night but now still Tuesday, it's only around 9 am in my area)

 

We don't have wrap up party, can we get both of you IG live together before this week airing time or after airing time? Please I like both of your awesome acting and professional principal, but I also love both your lovely and sweet interaction off screen...

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12 hours ago, orion00 said:

I'm a bit curious about Bong Wan and his mum relationship. When the queen delirious after acupuncture, he keep saying that his mom always wanted a daughter not son? And he said are you happy now mum? The king heard this and thinking that the queen missed her mother (the queen lost her mother at very young age). 

I am curious about this as well. SY's mom died giving birth to her. So she has no memory of her mom's face. What if SY's mom and BH's mom look the same?

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@icemaid thanks for the seol in-ah's photos too. i heard she's a very good dancer too but i couldn't find that twitter anymore.. she even did a cart wheel in it. was a bit shocked when i first see her photos/ videos out of mr queen.. she looks so different!

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whIn the world of saeguk's, most of the time, we are watching a lot of angst and terror. This drama however, has been full of laughter and high jinx and has honestly been exceptionally enjoyable.

 

Episode 12 is the first time, I felt all of the typical angst. So many snakes in one palace. My goodness, it seemed like the entire country was against this banquet. Every thing he tried was met with resistance. The palace cooks getting poisoned. The food and supplies being taken. Twice. The ridiculous request for him to fight at his own banquet. I honestly cannot stand Kim Jwa Geun. I hate how he is always scheming with the Grand Princess Dowager and how he has so much influence over the governing body. He was incredibly disrespectful and smug to the king, and all because of that ridiculous ledger.

 

Speaking of the ledger, Hwa Jin is dead to me. She is a liar. She claimed that she loved the king so hard and she cares so much for his best interest and the first chance she got, she betrayed him. Male soul or not, the queen has consistently stood by his side and helped him in any way that she could. Were it not for her, the banquet would've been a colossal failure. But everything was going too well. So, they had to pull this mess. I hope the Grand Princess Dowager starves from here on out. What a ridiculous way to try and hold onto power. What the king needs is someone who can move in silence and get all of the dirt on the Kim clan. Unfortunately, the queen is going to have to break from her family in order to do this. I think she will.

 

As for Hwa Jin, she is going to find out just how much her decision has hurt her before it is all said and done. She doesn't love the king. She just hates the queen, because she has such a deep inferiority complex. I think Bong Hwan will do enough while still in her body to set her up where she and the king can be in a better position. I love how they were doing a Joseon version of sexting. I want to see the bad folks ran out of the palace.

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