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Loved the Queen's dictionary. I wonder if that might survive into the modern era, perhaps be found in a museum? Did anyone see the German film "The Lives of Others"? Remember how it ended?

 

I'm fine with the balance between politics and romance when viewing the show as a whole rather than discrete episodes. We did just come off 3-4 relationship-heavy episodes, and it's time to move the plot along a bit!

 

Speaking of which, Mr. Queen appears to be following the Western 3-act structure.

  • Act 1 was about meeting all the characters and learning about life in Sobong's new world. It ended when she returned from the modern era and realized she wasn't going to solve (run away from) her problems (relationships) by jumping into a lake.
  • We're now well into Act 2, when complications arise and the protagonist has to work harder to overcome them. Externally, Sobong has to do more to assert herself at court. Internally, she is being yanked between the familiar yang and an increasingly assertive yin. She doesn't know who she is, anymore. Her relationship with and feelings for the the king are deepening, of course! In some ways her relationship with the royal chef is just as important. It shows us how her egocentric nature is changing and she is beginning to think of and act on behalf of others. (She is still in denial about all of this...)
  • If the writers adhere to the 3-act structure, we are about to reach the midpoint of Act 2, when the plot spins in a new direction and the stakes go way up (in Mulan this is when the fun training scenes are over and the Hun menace approaches). The king's hand is being forced, and he will have to show his true face. When he does, the knives come out and the happy little show with eunuchs racing food around the palace is (probably) over. Alas!
  • I suspect the second half of Act 2 will move into a palace rebellion phase. We've seen new costumes from production photos that suggest this. Sobong will have to abandon her manic pet projects and declare herself, just as the king does. This will mean facing her own feelings as well as backing her king publicly. (Doesn't it feel like she and the king are in two different shows sometimes?) She has always, man or woman, run away from her problems. That must change for her to grow as a person.

That said, the show writers have said they aren't entirely following the drama template, so I may be way off base!

 

Anyway this show sure is fun to speculate about!

 

 

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4 hours ago, louisawatson said:

By the way, I wonder what is the illness that Kim Jwa Geun's assassin has? I think Kim said something about it, but I can't remember. And I wonder what medicine it is. Kim Jwa Geun said that it's unfortunate that assassin has such an illness, and the assassin said that he's still alive thanks to the medicine that Kim Jwa Geun gives him.

 

 

isn't he a drug addict?

 

6 hours ago, aisling said:

I somehow think Cheoljong won’t know it was So Bong who saved the banquet... :pensive: He won’t know she’s the cooking genius who can make delicious food from anything. He actually never saw her cooking, so he probably thinks she’s just supervising the process in the kitchen. 
 

That makes me even sadder. If the Royal Chef won’t tell the king (I somehow think he’s going to take the credit for saving the banquet), he won’t know because I doubt So Bong will tell him herself. Sigh.

 

jebal don't make this scenario happened. cheongie has to taste and KNOW by himself how the queen's cooking could even affect the great queen dowager:tears:

 

anyway, i read some theories that they will dethrone soyoung from her position, i hope it won't happened and chongie can protect her:criesariver:

7 hours ago, enzek said:

Hwa Jin (actress Seol In Ah) is funny in real life:lol:

 

 

yep, she is really amazing. i just realized she played as anti-fan in IU's drama the producer and her acting in school 2017 was great. i ship her with daewhi lol hahaha. honestly idc about hwajin and the king's love story and they can go lovey-dovey all over the palace whenever they want, but when hwajin starts showing signs of wanting to hurt soyoung, girl you're dead :onfirex:

 

#teamqueen

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49 minutes ago, Raffles said:

 

  • I suspect the second half of Act 2 will move into a palace rebellion phase. We've seen new costumes from production photos that suggest this. Sobong will have to abandon her manic pet projects and declare herself, just as the king does. This will mean facing her own feelings as well as backing her king publicly. (Doesn't it feel like she and the king are in two different shows sometimes?) She has always, man or woman, run away from her problems. That must change for her to grow as a person.

 

:thumbsup: i'm waiting for that to happen too.. we're at the 12th episode by today.. hopefully next week the plot progresses. ok to be fair guess i'm just a tad impatient.. after all they just realized that they didn't want to kill each other as much, the king's affections just changed from hwajin to sobong in a span of a week, sobong is still getting used to the changes to herself and there's the other things they're occupied with.. but part of the fun was her inadvertently being an anti-fan (guardian angel) to the king like choosing the 3 right concubines, run into him in the well while he's passed out etc.

 

on a fangirl-y side note:

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broad shoulders. dreamy eyes :love:

 

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@blademan yeah as long as they're in the same screen.. doesn't matter if they're just talking/ writing or whatever.. bonus if they can be in the kitchen together.. super bonus if they somehow touch each other :lol:

 

please, just not off-screen thinking about each other, and a misunderstanding at that!

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I felt a little sad for our king here. Look at

how his face lit up when he saw So Bong. He’s so excited when he sees her.

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Poor baby looks disappointed because she acts cold and indifferent.

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But then he comes up with a an explanation because he’s a fool in love. 
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Gosh, I want to see So Bong being infatuated by her king too!

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4 hours ago, Raffles said:

Loved the Queen's dictionary. I wonder if that might survive into the modern era, perhaps be found in a museum? Did anyone see the German film "The Lives of Others"? Remember how it ended?

 

I'm fine with the balance between politics and romance when viewing the show as a whole rather than discrete episodes. We did just come off 3-4 relationship-heavy episodes, and it's time to move the plot along a bit!

 

Speaking of which, Mr. Queen appears to be following the Western 3-act structure.

  • Act 1 was about meeting all the characters and learning about life in Sobong's new world. It ended when she returned from the modern era and realized she wasn't going to solve (run away from) her problems by jumping into a lake.
  • We're now well into Act 2, when complications arise and become more serious (given the genre). Externally, Sobong is further from home than ever, and her position at court is increasingly uncertain. Internally, she is being yanked between the familiar yang and an increasingly assertive yin. Her relationship with the king is deepening, of course, and in some ways her relationship with the royal chef is just as important. It shows us how her egocentric nature is changing and she is beginning to think of and act on behalf of others. (She still has her horn-dog lapses, as we just saw...)
  • If the writers adhere to the 3-act structure, we are about to reach the midpoint of Act 2, when the characters typically experience a game-changing reversal that spins the plot into a new direction. The king's hand is being forced, and he will have to show his true face. When he does, the knives come out and the happy little show with eunuchs racing food around the palace is over.  
  • I suspect the second half of Act 2 will move into a palace rebellion phase. We've seen wardrobe changes that suggest this. Sobong will have to abandon her manic pet projects and declare herself, just as the king does. This will mean facing her own feelings as well as backing her king publicly. (Doesn't it feel like she and the king are in two different shows sometimes?) She has always, man or woman, run away from her problems. That must change for her to grow as a person.

Having said all this, I could be really off-base. The show writers have said they aren't entirely following the drama template, so they may pull their punches.

 

Anyway this show sure is fun to speculate about!

 

I totally agree with your opinions!

I feel like this too and after watching with subtitles I actually like episode 11.

Queen So Bong brings the fun in the comedy part while King Cheol Jong brings the action in the political part.

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(Doesn't it feel like she and the king are in two different shows sometimes?)

 

I feel in this drama not only the main male lead and main female lead are in the two different shows, the second female lead and second male lead also have their own show LOOL

It seems like the screenwriter intentionally make all of them like that haha:lol:

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My suggestions for their own dramas titles:

 

Cheol Jong - Watch Out, I'm The King Of Joseon!

Plot: The rise of a puppet king that pretended to be dumb for the sake of his nation.

Genre: Revenge, Thriller

Spoiler

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So Bong - Help! A Chef's Soul In A Queen's Body? : The Case Of My Identity Crisis

Plot: The tale of a wondering soul discovering about his/her physical gender.

Genre: Comedy, Romance or Bromance or whatever it is called

Spoiler

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Hwa Jin - Your Majesty, Although I Lied To You But My Love Is True

Plot: The woman with a bitter secret since her childhood about the true incident at the well.

Genre: Makjang, Suspense

 

*Makjang: a sylistic, tonal, or narrative element in dramas that chooses to play up outrageous storylines to keep viewers hooked despite how ridiculous the stories become (adultery, revenge, rape, birth secrets, fatal illnesses, and flirting with incest possibilities are some makjang favorites).

Shows can be part of a makjang class of dramas (Wife’s Temptation is a makjang series), or they can have makjang tendencies (Mary Stayed Out All Night went makjang toward the end).

Generally considered a negative thing (“Gah, how makjang can you get?”), unless a drama intentionally embraces the style (such as Baker King Kim Tak-gu or Flames of Desire).

 

Spoiler

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Byung In - Kim So Yong, My Painful Forbidden Love

Plot: The struggle of an easily teary-eyed man who fell in love with his adopted cousin.

Genre: Melodrama, Tragedy

Spoiler

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Also a honorable mention of a drama's title for a character in this drama:

Spoiler

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2 hours ago, kwayteow_mama said:

wanna share something i just saw on twitter :)

SHS pretty in pink

 

Yes, I realized that after the scenes where our queen riding the palanquin together with her king to return to the palace, she looks more cuter and her appearance kind of glow up now:D

The secret?

A hot make out session with her I-didn't-realized-yet-that-I-already-fallen-for-you-again husband

hohoho (imitate her husband fake laugh)

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Yes, my royal couple started their journey in becoming each other allies against those annoying court official! 

Go go my royal couple! As a 100% anti-fan I'm rooting for you!

 

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The second leads got shocked:

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And decided to take action against our royal couple:

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We are happy that it is still weekend but your loyal anti-fan craving to see more interactions between you and your queen, your majesty!

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does anyone know what the lots that the queen dowager drew meant?

 

jo clan: rabbit (lowest)

king: injong (9th card)

queen: fish (8th card)

 

does that mean that the king and queen got the highest 2 cards? and that they'll triumph the crisis?

 

i really hope so because the ep 12 preview is so hard to watch with cheoljong so upset D:

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Queen Dowager to Mr Queen: You do not even hide your dislike of me. When I was the queen, such actions would not happen.

Me: This entire show is full of "disrespect" towards the royals, and the Queen. People aren't properly bowing, or even greeting, or any other things.

 

And the worst? Hwa Jin. She's just possessive and delusional as hell.

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I don’t know if anybody else felt anxious when Cheoljong wrote this? Because it sounded like a foreshadowing? He didn’t even send it to her... it’d probably reveal too much of his feelings for her.

 

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I feel uneasy because it sounds like a goodbye note. It sounds like something a dying lover would say.
 

I have watched quite a few sageuks and this sounds eerily like “Be sure to find me in our next lifetime.” 

 

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Like this scene from drama Princess’ Man that’s still traumatising me 10 years later.

 

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Star-crossed lovers are always the most tragic :tears:

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Shin Hye Sun And Kim Jung Hyun Remain Calm In The Midst Of Crisis In “Mr. Queen”

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Jan 17, 2021
by S. P
 

tvN’s “Mr. Queen” revealed new stills ahead of tonight’s episode!

“Mr. Queen” is a historical fusion drama about a man from modern times whose soul is trapped in the body of a queen from the Joseon dynasty. Shin Hye Sun stars as Kim So Yong, the Joseon queen with the soul of Blue House chef Jang Bong Hwan trapped inside her. Kim Jung Hyun plays her husband King Cheoljong, who is a weak and ineffective king on the outside but is stronger and sharper than he appears.

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Despite Kim So Yong’s attempts to sort out her confused feelings for King Cheoljong, the two individuals have only been growing closer. When Kim So Yong’s note fell into King Cheoljong’s hands, they ended up writing notes back and forth all night. Meanwhile, crisis also befell the celebratory banquet as precious ingredients became unable to be used and Queen Sunwon (Bae Jong Ok) suggested a sudden bout of martial arts. To make matters worse, Kim So Yong found herself in danger as Jo Hwa Jin (Seol In Ah) aimed an arrow directly at her.

New stills preview the tension at the scene of the banquet. King Cheoljong had planned to order Prince Yeongpyeong (Yoo Min Kyu) to collect the ingredients needed for the banquet. A sense of urgency falls over Cheoljong’s face as Prince Yeongpyeong delivers an urgent message, and Kim So Yong looks on with sadness in her eyes. In the final still, Kim So Yong stands with her mouth agape in astonishment amidst the chaos of the banquet, leading viewers to wonder what new incident will occur.

 

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The drama’s production team hinted at the upcoming turn of events as they shared, “The ‘no touch’ couple of Kim So Yong and Cheoljong will come to a mutual understanding as they face an unexpected predicament. Kim So Yong’s leap to action after she detects the crisis that will befall Cheoljong will be an interesting development.”

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1449109wpp/shin-hye-sun-and-kim-jung-hyun-remain-calm-in-the-midst-of-crisis-in-mr-queen

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2 hours ago, poopytubby said:

does anyone know what the lots that the queen dowager drew meant?

 

jo clan: rabbit (lowest)

king: injong (9th card)

queen: fish (8th card)

 

does that mean that the king and queen got the highest 2 cards? and that they'll triumph the crisis?

 

i really hope so because the ep 12 preview is so hard to watch with cheoljong so upset D:

 

 I was wondering about that too

But, in Chinese, no 9 means luck :blush: and dragon as well. so hopefully our King and Queen will get the luck after the Surit nal crisis.

I want to share some other theories from Dramamilk. I like their theories.

 

 

Let's see what's happening tonight!!

 

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