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6 minutes ago, kara_mella said:

can you tell me what are the spin offs about? I have never heard [ till now] of such a thing related to this drama.


After Mr Queen started to be popular the production team decided to film another 6 mini episodes, each lasting 10 minutes. Not sure if they’ll release all episodes at once or gradually. It will establish the backstory for Kim So Yong and Cheoljong, how they met 8 years after the well incident. Basically they’re filming a prequel story because there wasn’t time for it in the main story.

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The Tale Of The King’s Failed Mission   Our king had a very important mission, he even sent his brother away in order to succeed in his task.   5 minutes later.  

Watching it with subs made the final episode even worse.   I’m so tired of people saying So Bong was only influenced by So Yong’s emotions and feelings. You people had your happy generic het

thank you, @cenching, @aisling - I don't know if that helps - it's like rubbing salt into a wound - I don't need to walk backwards [ although it sharpens the senses and mental clarity  :star:] I need more of them from now on, not from the past... did they have more interaction back then? I m afraid not... so what's the point then...oh, well!:sleeping:

it has crossed my mind - that in order to save Cheoljeong - she/he might sacrifice herself when needed - and at that very moment Bong Hwan would wake up. Oh, it doesn't help to think that way ...but both heroines of the C versions that I mentioned before died... I'm so stressed out and it's only Monday...:worried::unamused:

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I really like this moment from ep 16. 
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So Bong, I think realises here that she really likes him, although she tries to justify by reasoning that saving CJ is saving herself - girl, just how did you come up with that logic when you know the history quite well - plus she went "all-in" knowing fully that CJ was actually on the losing side. I don't know if SB really expects to change history or give hope and confidence to CJ but I love that she's quite decisive about her stand. 


Another thing I really liked was unlike the traditional trope of closing eyes when the partner is waking up - she just continues to stare at him without any inhibition or embarrassment and CJ quickly picks up and makes a move LOL if only this wasn't interrupted :partyblob:
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Again I really do think that SY and BH have one soul. I believe that they are One becoz SB said on last episode “i will die smiling” the same line as young SY told the young cheoljong when they’re stuck in the well. 

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9 hours ago, Jillia said:

 

“Mr. Queen” And “Homemade Love Story” Both Soar To Their Highest Ratings Yet

Feb 1, 2021
by E. Cha
 

Both tvN’s “Mr. Queen” and KBS 2TV’s “Homemade Love Story” have reached new all-time ratings highs!

 

On January 31, “Mr. Queen” successfully continued its streak of seeing its viewership ratings rise with each new episode. According to Nielsen Korea, the latest broadcast of the hit drama scored an average nationwide rating of 14.9 percent and a peak of 16.3 percent, marking a new personal record for the series. “Mr. Queen” also defended its position at first place in its time slot across all channels, including public broadcast networks.

 

KBS 2TV’s “Homemade Love Story” similarly achieved its highest viewership ratings to date last night, with its latest broadcast scoring average nationwide ratings of 30.3 percent and 33.7 percent for its two parts.

 

Meanwhile, TV Chosun’s “Love (ft. Marriage and Divorce)” saw a modest decline in viewership for its fourth episode, which scored an average nationwide rating of 7.6 percent.

 

Congratulations to the cast and crew of both “Mr. Queen” and “Homemade Love Story”!

 

 

This is amazing :).

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4 hours ago, Raffles said:

Have you guys noticed that there are no mother-child relationships in this show? The moms are all either dead or have survived their sons. Is this normal for this genre?

as of now, I think it's a coincidence but I don't think it's normal for a fusion sageuk - although I'm not able to come up with any counter examples :joy:

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Wow, I like the reference!

This make me feel my watching experience become more enjoyable:wub:

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Oh, how time flies!:D

As if it just yesterday I feel so excited reading the news that Shin Hye Sun and Kim Jung Hyun will acting together in a historical drama which is an adaptation from the silly funny Chinese historical drama, Go Princess Go LOL

 

After the casting news and the drama's plot are out, some people commented that they worried there will no romance since Bong Hwan is a male chef in modern time but, hey, they had kiss scene in episode 8/9, bed scene in 14/15 and pregnancy announcement in episode 16:lol:

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Even if the written plot of this drama is kinda confusing to some people, I challenge any couple in Korean historical romance drama to top our King and Queen as the most cray cray royal couple in Korean historical romance drama AHAHAH:P

I don't care, I want a happy ending for them!

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3 hours ago, Phillip Lundgren said:

Regarding Cheoljong's reaction, I do think that he liked Hwa Jin. No matter how I dislike Hwa Jin, I have to say that she is beautiful and also behaves decently. Jo Deabi also said that when she first met Hwa Jin. We all know that there is a gap between affection and love. Hwa Jin unfortunately does not have a chance to go through misunderstandings and challenges with Cheoljong like So Bong did, thus the affection is superficial. In my perspective, Cheoljong is not purely a man of love. He has misisons to fulfill. Hence his distance for her is quite understandable, as eliminating the corruption is on top of his priority. I don't have an explanation for him not unboxing Hwa Jin for that long though.  

Cheoljong is kind and objective to distinguish his affection Hwa Jin from her lies, yet I wonder how he treats her after knowing she betrayed him with the ledger. 

 

I also think when they met again when they grow up, Cheoljong thought Hwa Jin is a beautiful lady and feel attracted to her. At first, I also hope he will exiled or punish her just after the truth about past was exposed but the fact that he admitted about what he feel before to her is consistent with his character development.

 

Wasn't the reason we as audiences fell in love with Cheol Jong's character and rooting for him to has happy ending with his beloved queen because how he character develops?

 

Although the Kim's clan is his enemy and he feel suspicious with So Bong at first, he willing to acknowledge his mistakes and reflect about his prejudice towards her after they spending time together. He also willing to try to understand her side of story/opinion and try to change to be a better husband.

 

Remember Hwa Jin entered the palace because of him and on the first day after she entered he promised to protect her. He also promised to  but now he neglect her because he fall in love with So Bong. And since she is his concubine she doesn't has any choice except to stay with him. 

 

It is actually sad to be a woman in those times because whether you are a queen or a concubine you depend on the king's favor towards you. If your husband only love you and has you, it is more happier than king's women in the palace even both of you and your husband are only a commoner.

 

2 hours ago, aisling said:

“A king never runs.”

 

But he always runs whenever his queen is concerned 

Why did I have to make this video and make myself cry again?

 

Thank you for the video:joy:

So in this drama we have the collections of:

1)Royal couple mentioned the word "no touch"

2)Cheoljong's Jungjeon 

3)Cheoljong's Oh ho and silly laugh

4)So Bong's calling Cheoljong's nickname

5)Cheoljong telling So Bong "don't run"

6)Cheoljong running scene whenever his "Oh no, My Queen!" alert alarm was activated

7)"How it's started" & "How it's going" scenes like:

In episode 1 So Bong want to ride the palanquin with Cheoljong but he rejected.

In episode 10 they finally ride the palanquin together

 

Are there more?:lol:

 

 

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1 hour ago, cenching said:

I want a collection of CheolJong’s whipped lover boy puppy expression wherever SB is around...:gangnamstyle:

 
Am I unhealthy invested in this drama if I know the exact moment Cheoljong looked at So Bong warmly for the first time?  Before this moment it was always suspicion, disbelief, fake fondness, despise, or curiosity at best.


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Why is Kim Jung Hyun so good at those subtle expressions? The first time he looked at So Bong a little fondly, you could tell it wasn’t love yet, but she stirred something in him. It’s different from the way he looks at her now that he’s deeply in love. It’s hard to explain but there’s definitely a different feeling. 
 

I have to admit when I watched this scene back then it was also the first time I found Kim Jung Hyun breathtakingly gorgeous.

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I look forward to the weekends because this show is a gem. I love the story and the cast . I will be sad when it is almost time to say goodbye to this show. Please show us a good ending. 

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15 hours ago, kara_mella said:

@Phoenix Klaw where did you read that? The king died at the age of 32 and he was survived by his wife, the queen. They did have a baby, a girl, but she died around 6 months if I m not wrong. Hence no heirs for the king... I'm ok with anything that will differ, but I very much doubt it cuz I read some historical sources and checked some other Korean posts.

 

Now you get why I am so heartbroken...:crymeme:

@kara_mella  Didn't read it anywhere. Purely my own speculation/ wishful thinking. Too difficult to reconcile with history, which as you point out, was very sad. In fact, I read that in history, it was the Queen Dowager who "won" in the hand, and chose and manipulated the next king.

 

My bad. In Korean history, his heir was King of Korean Empire, not his biological son. 

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According to the text  preview , who may it be ... who's spreading this rumor ?  I think and this is purely my  speculation , but it may be prince yeongpyeong  ... HJ redeemed herself  for me in the latest episode ... not to be forgiven but to provide character development ... she stated that she was going to look for a way to be herself , she admitted her wrong doings and told the king that  it was her fault ; and that she she was going to take care of the most important person ..herself ... which speaks volumes about her character and the way she was always been place to be SB shadow... she is ready to step into the light and assume and resume the decisions that come with accepting such realization, she could have been scheming something when she saw SB and the king together in his room, but she decided to come to terms with reality and to decide what was best for her ( at least until now, which was to come clean to the king ). I celebrate her on that... I hope she stops here and becomes a better person ... it seems to me that is how the writer is taking her character...however prince YP on the other hand, he was a liked character that somehow is getting darker and darker as we move on in the plot .... his dislike of SB is apparent ... he hates her and cannot overcome his prejudice... on top of that i'm afraid he may do  something to SB in the name of love... we all  know how blind in love he is with HJ ... even without her asking him, he'll probably do something to SB...on the account that he wants to see HJ happy ...and as she solemnly stated,  the king  was her dream ... I don't think  its BI , he cares to much about SB to risk her life ( now that we know the GQD is asking for her head) he may, along with the king, do something  to prove her innocence, or to save her. Plus PY and detective hong were the only ones whom knew that our royal couple did not consummate their marriage on their wedding night ....I have a feeling that cheoljong even knows this , but is pretending not to know( his remarks on the last episode to his brother ) he may know more that he leads on... after all ...YP may just want to defame the queen or to put doubt into the king about her loyalty ( after all she did say she would betray him ) but he has promised her not to misunderstand  her anymore ; so i'm hopeful that if anything happens that may seem doubtful ( and I'm not talking about the pregnancy because ...on that particular matter ... i believed he knows best who the father might be) but on future situations... BI taking that piece of paper from SB   book might come into play ...

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23 hours ago, aisling said:

Am I the only one who was bothered by what Cheoljong said? Did he truly love Hwa Jin before, or did he say that for her benefit?


Even before he fell for So Bong he never behaved like someone who was really in love, it always felt more like the gratitude to me. If he truly loved Hwa Jin, how did he become so distant from her in span of few weeks? He stopped wanting to touch her or even talked to her. That couldn’t have been true love...

 

 

23 hours ago, cenching said:

I think CheolJong did love HJ back then. HJ is a gorgeous and ideal woman of Joseon. The illusion that she saved him strengthen the attraction. While now CheolJong simply fell out of love, of course because of SB.

 

What happened to CheolJong’s changes of heart maybe deemed unacceptable for modern time. He’s practically cheating but I can’t really judge CheolJong by modern standards. The same with so called consent. Consent and fidelity can’t co existing with Harem.

 

13 hours ago, Mila said:

 

I think Cheoljong really believed that he loved Hwa Jin. Not even he realized that, in reality, what he felt for her was just gratitude that she supposedly saved him from the well.

 

Cheoljong is a very responsible person. He had made promises of love to her. He also married her and now she is stuck with him for the rest of her life. So, even though he doesn't love her as he loves Soyong, he still has responsibilities to her and tried to keep their relationship on good terms.

 

One of the lingering questions I've had since the start is exactly to what extent is the relationship between HJ and CJ. How intense was their relationship?  I was even confused as to when they met again since he was away in exile and only came back to the capital when the Kims needed a puppet king.

I'm glad I finally got my answer.  He met her again 2 yrs ago. So he's had time to get to know her.

Her lie might have led to him looking for her and made her important to him but I think he did grow to love her in those two yrs.

He was ready to sacrifice himself to save her in the early episodes (though the queen ended up saving them both) but that scene clearly showed how important she was to him.

 

But HJ's insecurities and suspicions led her on a dark path.  She could have used the opportunity to mend bridges with the queen and help CJ that way. They could have teamed up to help him with his cause instead of fraternizing with his enemies. 

 

Maybe CJ neglected her a bit so he was right in owning a bit of the blame, (too much IMO) bec he did make promises to her, spoken or implied bec a relationship of 2 yrs is not nothing.

He did fall for the queen fast and things changed for HJ too abruptly after he married SY.

What promises did he make to HJ? Did he promise fidelity? that he would only love her? But there was that scene where she kinda gave him permission to have feelings for the queen...(made me cringe at the time) Can't really fault him and he's been honest to her, I think.

 

But this is Joseon and the king having multiple wives is the norm. She would have had to share him anyway, even if it wasn't SY.  It is expected.  But with feelings involved, it gets complicated.

 

If you look at it from her POV, the queen stole her man and he doesn't love HJ the same way anymore.  I can understand the anger, insecurity and jealousy. But she crossed the line when she gave up the ledger, pointing the arrow, telling KJG abt the queen helping with the banquet.  She's pretty good at playing the deadly games in the harem.  So I still find it hard to like her. Even as she confessed her wrong doings, the way she worded things (I can't recall details, need to watch again) was a bit irritating.

 

I wish they added more scenes to show how she came to the decision to confess her actions to CJ. That would have given us more of a window to her character.

 

I wonder how BH (being from the 21st century) will look at the concubines now that he's caught feelings for CJ.  Will he become possessive and jealous esp if CJ has to consummate with them? Or he won't care?

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21 minutes ago, cdcotr said:

 

 

 

One of the lingering questions I've had since the start is exactly to what extent is the relationship between HJ and CJ. How intense was their relationship?  I was even confused as to when they met again since he was away in exile and only came back to the capital when the Kims needed a puppet king.

I'm glad I finally got my answer.  He met her again 2 yrs ago. So he's had time to get to know her.

Her lie might have led to him looking for her and made her important to him but I think he did grow to love her in those two yrs.

He was ready to sacrifice himself to save her in the early episodes (though the queen ended up saving them both) but that scene clearly showed how important she was to him.

 

But HJ's insecurities and suspicions led her on a dark path.  She could have used the opportunity to mend bridges with the queen and help CJ that way. They could have teamed up to help him with his cause instead of fraternizing with his enemies. 

 

Maybe CJ neglected her a bit so he was right in owning a bit of the blame, (too much IMO) bec he did make promises to her, spoken or implied bec a relationship of 2 yrs is not nothing.

He did fall for the queen fast and things changed for HJ too abruptly after he married SY.

What promises did he make to HJ? Did he promise fidelity? that he would only love her? But there was that scene where she kinda gave him permission to have feelings for the queen...(made me cringe at the time) Can't really fault him and he's been honest to her, I think.

 

But this is Joseon and the king having multiple wives is the norm. She would have had to share him anyway, even if it wasn't SY.  It is expected.  But with feelings involved, it gets complicated.

 

If you look at it from her POV, the queen stole her man and he doesn't love HJ the same way anymore.  I can understand the anger, insecurity and jealousy. But she crossed the line when she gave up the ledger, pointing the arrow, telling KJG abt the queen helping with the banquet.  She's pretty good at playing the deadly games in the harem.  So I still find it hard to like her. Even as she confessed her wrong doings, the way she worded things (I can't recall details, need to watch again) was a bit irritating.

 

I wish they added more scenes to show how she came to the decision to confess her actions to CJ. That would have given us more of a window to her character.

 

I wonder how BH (being from the 21st century) will look at the concubines now that he's caught feelings for CJ.  Will he become possessive and jealous esp if CJ has to consummate with them? Or he won't care?

 

The main problem with HJ is her hates toward SY is way deeper than her loves for CJ and she has an underlying insecurity, her lies that she was the one in the well.  Those feelings rooted deep in her heart and mind and uprooted whatever good qualities and feelings that she has.

 

CJ loved her, no doubt, hands down. I would say they had an intense relationship because CJ shared all of his dreams with her and she is willing to enters The Palace as a concubine despite her family disapproval in order to helps CJ. He fell out of love and neglected HJ because his heart and mind are occupied by SB (isn't she a handful?), as simple as that. He finds SB to be fascinating in her devil may cares attitude. She isn't clingy or nagging at him and even seems to understand him very well (Well, as man to man).  I am sure CJ promised many things to HJ but not fidelity. She is The Concubine in the first place. I remember that CJ did apologised to her that he was not able to make her His Queen and she was okay with that. But the moment SB comes into pictures, HJ throws all of her logic out of the windows.

 

I won't say The Queen stole her man because this is Harem and HJ is a concubine and she knew it. Her beef is SY, SY stole her man. Her pride can't let it happens and she is willing to crosses whatever lines to punishes SY even in the price of CJ's dreams.

 

CJ does facing the consequences of his messy love life. He neglected HJ and she betrayed him. His prejudiced against SY and SB made sure that he paid in full.

 

 

 

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I think at HJ all this while had this insecure jealousy of SY.

She knew the King (CJ) loved her more and therefore she was willing to enter the palace as a concubine because she would definitely have more sway over CJ than the Queen (SY). 

I still remember the hurt on SY's face when she implored CJ to love her. And his reply 'Is that an order' shows that he would have done his duty to beget a heir (if he has too) but he would have spent more time with his royal consort HJ. 

 

I also did not really like how HJ revealed the truth about the book to CJ. 

Yes, she came clean only to realise that he already knew but he was willing to ignore that. The ledger was what broke him. And when she added her only dream was him (which implies she never shared the same dream as CJ - very different from So Bong who is 'all-in' in helping this man who is bound to lose - fate wise)

I am not sure if she really loved CJ or saw him as someone who SY liked (and helped) as a child and now schemes to take CJ's love. HJ is beautiful and I am sure CJ would have fallen for her but I feel that if HJ had remained the person who could listen to CJ and shared his dreams, knowing that he had to marry SY because of the clan, she would have remained in his heart. 

The moment her jealousy overtook her and she started playing the pitiful victim, she had become a monster. [And I love what So Bong said to her during Round 3]

 

The source of the rumours? That the King didn't spend the nights with his Queen which therefore implies that the baby might not be his - I suspect it is either the Queen Dowager or the Grand Queen Dowager. They do not want CJ to have an heir and they also want to discredit the Queen SB/SY. 

 

 

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