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I watched it last week with the premiere and I have to say it is a nail biter and seeing my fave Shin Seung Rok as the workaholic and top executive Seo Jin back as a lead. (I loved his evilness in Last Empress alot)

 

Lee Se Young as Han Ae Ri shouldn't be able to meet Seo Jin. The phone thing is interesting how they are connected briefly despite being in different times. (I did not watch ALICE or VOICE ). But I agree with @Shinobu Ae Ri doesn't do so hot communicating with Seo Jin from the future.

 

I like there are consequences and you see them happen. But still yikes. You avoid one thing to gain a new thing.

 

Winners Kang Sung Yoon as Gun Wook is good. I cannot blame Ae Ri feeling betrayed by him to take her money for her mother's surgery to pay off his debt. Despite wronging her and she gave him grief to try to sell his home to pay him off. She is a bleeding heart and so kind saying what about your mom/grandmother who saved the money to buy and pay it off to make his life a bit easier

 

Ahn Bo Hyun as Do Kyun, I am curious about him and more about relationship with his boss and work. We know he is good and able. I feel he has an agenda and working hard to achieve it but we don't know well yet how he is as a person.

 

Hi @Jillia and @larus thanks for always posting goodies.

 

@lebeaucouple Thanks for your post alot, I agree with your guesses.

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I actually don't mind Seojin character in ep 8 because he's consistent. He never believed Aeri from the moment she met him at his office. It wouldn't make sense if he suddenly believes her especially

Awwww @lebeaucouple thanks my friend for remembering me! I know we meet so many in other forums. Glad to see your posts and activity! YEAH it has been a bit of time! LOVE LOVE your ideas and theories

I am so so agree with this. I was thinking the same after watch ep 4 when Aeri met Dokyun. I'm not sure about him being the culprit but so far Aeri has only told Dokyun and Seojin himself about Dabin

1 hour ago, Jillia said:

Unfortunately ratings are not that great. :( But I think we can all enjoy it when we like it still.

I don`t care about the ratings but it is unfair that good dramas are underapreciated. Well, I will enjoy this drama regardless.

 

So Kim Jin Ho really killed Da Bin? They still don`t find the body so I still hope it is not true. I want her to be alive even if I know that Seo Jin and Ae Ri will find a way to reverse everything. I thought that he confessed hust to grab the attention from the police and media but it was not the case. But I am still confused with this man.  I am really curious why Kim Jin Ho visited Ae Ri`s mother at the hospital the day she disappeared. I did not expected that.

 

First Ae Ri was arrested and now she is dead. She has to be alive because she is the only hope of Seo Jin. I know she will get the message in time or she will be cautious.

I believe that Kim Jin Ho was right about the company and Seo Jin will discover dirty things about his own company.

I am ready for the next episode.

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I need to understand why would Han Ae Ri wants to ring the damn bell after seeing the wife entered the apt in another man's arms.  And if she was killed in the apt and the apt was rented by spec boy, surely he would have gotten in trouble.

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2 hours ago, Shinobu said:

I need to understand why would Han Ae Ri wants to ring the damn bell after seeing the wife entered the apt in another man's arms.  And if she was killed in the apt and the apt was rented by spec boy, surely he would have gotten in trouble.

right? could it be rented in someone else name ? idk but even so with the cctv  they both would be exposed 

a plot hole!

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:wub:@Nodame my dear chingu, so glad to see you here in this thread.

 

Don't spend time to watch "ALICE" if you have too many on your plates. The time travel transition between multiverse/different dimensions depicted not as clear as this current drama. You may be disappointed after watching Alice. You can read more review on this "ALICE" from other forum.

 

For this Kairos drama, the transition between the 2 timelines is extremely well arranged, it doesn't create any confusion. Every little details was meticulously planned. Of course, my first guess was correct that Seo Do-Kyun and Kang Hyun-Chae had an affair. But i think the wife may not have involved in the kidnapping idea, otherwise she would not be committed suicide and left with a note saying it was all her faults.

 

The writer has created one month gap of timeline to make changes on several events thru both leads, such as avoiding Han Ae-Ri from going to jail and death. The timeline is very short, will these changes lead to another outcome?

 

Some interesting discovery and finding :

If we know something bad will happen in future, most of the time, we will try to tell the person concerned to avoid it, but the fact that Han Ae-Ri went to approach Kim Seo-Jin and talked about it in front of his wife and even KSJ's driver noticed that, the culprit initially, may not have planned the kidnapping of the child, but may in fact have given them some ideas to take action. Somehow, the leads' actions and decisions may be the causes of the final result?

 

What we know both leads coincidental events are connected to Yujung Construction, (the culprit already known), there will be more unfold to share, such as why only can communicate at 10.33pm? Is there any symbolize or special meaning to it? Let' see.

 

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Kairos.... So good. I loved episode 4. The writer kept me the whole time on the edge om my seat.

 

I admit that I thought about the the wife having an affair scenario but I did not wanted to say anything until we had prove. So indeed she had an affair. Then her death could be an act too. The fact that someone from Yujin construction (Seo Jin`s driver or whatever he was) Lee Taek-Kyu met precisely the one who kidnapped Da Bin it was very suspisious. Now we discover that Seo Do-Kyun and Hyun-Chae had an affair. I thought that he liked Hyun Chae when he looked at the family photo in the last episode but their relationship was more than that. At this point, the fact that Da Bin or Hyun Chae`s bodies were not found, I have serious doubts that both are dead. But it is possible that she genuinly felt guilty after her daughter `s case. If they are dead, the writer is good at keeping everything hidden so far. Both scenarios could be possible.

 

I start to be convinced that Seo Jin and Ae ri are connceted because of her father. He was the man from the Seo Jin`s nighmare, the man who was with him when there was the colapsing of the building. We know that he had a traumatic event in the past and Ae Ri`s father is the one who lost his life then.

 

Yugung Constraction is involved in Seo Jin`s past incident (the colapsing building), the company is guilty for using illegal/ cheap material that provoke the injury of Kim Jin H`s daughter. Because of that old incedent, Ae Ri`s mother disappeared. Somebody gained a lot of money using cheaper material instead of the right ones. I suspect the the CEO of Yugung.No matter how Yoo Seo-Il says that he is behind Seo Ji, I really doubt that. I am sure that prosecutors coming now, it is  related to the fact that Seo Jin searched for a second opinion about the materials. Ae Ri managed to get Seo Jin`s attention in August. I think they prepared a scapegoat in case the truth is starting to be discovered.

 

 

 

 

11 hours ago, lebeaucouple said:

What we know both leads coincidental events are connected to Yujung Construction, (the culprit already known), there will be more unfold to share, such as why only can communicate at 10.33pm? Is there any symbolize or special meaning to it? Let' see.

 

I suspect that was when Seo Jin and Ae Ri`s father were together when the collapsing has accured. Or when Ae Ri`s father died.

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11 hours ago, lebeaucouple said:

Some interesting discovery and finding :

If we know something bad will happen in future, most of the time, we will try to tell the person concerned to avoid it, but the fact that Han Ae-Ri went to approach Kim Seo-Jin and talked about it in front of his wife and even KSJ's driver noticed that, the culprit initially, may not have planned the kidnapping of the child, but may in fact have given them some ideas to take action. Somehow, the leads' actions and decisions may be the causes of the final result?

 

 

I am so so agree with this. I was thinking the same after watch ep 4 when Aeri met Dokyun. I'm not sure about him being the culprit but so far Aeri has only told Dokyun and Seojin himself about Dabin being kidnapped so... can't say Hyunchae is innocent tho but we still don't know what makes Seojin and Hyunchae fight as Dabin said when she was sick. 

 

Oh not to mention the driver? 

I honestly don't think that Kim Jinho is the culprit tho, he might only being set up by someone. 

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Awwww @lebeaucouple thanks my friend for remembering me! I know we meet so many in other forums. Glad to see your posts and activity! YEAH it has been a bit of time! LOVE LOVE your ideas and theories in regards to actions and decisions can cause the final result. I am 110% percent behind that thought! Also thanks for the tip to not bother with ALICE. Ok thank you.

 

@bohyunlovers I agree that Kim Jinho is NOT the culprit. The assistant and the driver were suspicious from the get go for me.  

 

@larus OOOH the time is the time that the collapsing happened--brilliant and I feel that is a very "HOT" and good theory. You know, I had thoughts of an "affair" as well myself.  To be proven right in the last night's episode, sigh. What you are writing and the scapegoat and Seo Jin asking for the second testing /opinion all does make sense and falls into place.

 

Really enjoying this drama and looking forward to next week. This balances from the crazy makjang of Penthouse.

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I have been loving this show and the twists ! (I'm glad I started this one cause after Stranger 2 I couldn't find anything - except for re-watching old shows that I've seen!) 

 

I honestly think the wife is alive cause after she and Kim Seo Jin have the fight in the hospital - the manager and her are alone after Seo Jin leaves. I'm sure they discussed something. The manager & the assistant both don't like Seo Jin and think he has harmed their life in someway. I'm sure the reason why Seo Jin is getting flashbacks cause whatever is happening in Ae ri's timeline - must've occurred already in his timeline too. Idk if anyone has seen Repeat: 365 - all the characters ended up going through the same loop over and over again till they ended the bad lady's game (I can't really remember that show LOL). I honestly hope the main characters do meet each other some day cause it seems like they are can be love interests :lol: 

 

When Ae ri was by the apartment - I was like omg get out of there girl! And if she died already in Seo Jin's timeline - it must've been the wife who killed her? Idk man but I like everyone's theories here!

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Okay so reading the comments above, I think almost all had felt that the wife was having an affair, and it was not just me thinking about it. I mean it was quite easy to predict it. Since episode 1, I never felt as if the main couple were really in love. It seemed like they were going on because of the child. But well, even though I had serious doubts about her affair, and also got some ideas about the secretary having some feelings for her seeing the way he looked at the photos, I didn't see them having an affair. But well, it was some good twist here. 

 

I do feel like Do Bin is still alive, and so is Hyun Chae. But I do see the writer playing a smart game here. They can keep them dead, and then show they end up alive because of something Ae Ri did in the past, or just reveal that they were alive all along. Anyway, I think it is the later. We didn't see either of them die, didn't see Hyung Chae jump down, and her body was not found too, although she sure was quite depressed by the death news of her daughter. But I do see that something is missing in the puzzle here, I will have to go back and FF through the 4 episodes again, but I feel like one important info is being missed here. 

 

I also do agree with the theory that Seo Jin and Ae Ri are connected because of her father. The number he is using currently was actually her father's number, which he got recently. I am now more interested in the disaster that had happened. Seo Jin seems to be having PTSD because of it too. But it does seem like that the company is part of some serious corruption here. 

 

What I am loving is, one seed of doubt by Ae Ri, led to Seo Jin in the past start investigating things. The President/chairman the old guy is also not really someone who can be trusted though. This dude will put his company before anyone, and he could actually be the guy who will discard Seo Jin if things start going South. But deep down I do hope he is the good guy they are showing (which is never the case). That old dude called himself and the secretary to be the only ones on Seo Jin's side, and soon after we see Do Kyun to not really be on Seo Jin's side. 

 

Coming to the driver, I still don't know why he chased Ae Ri and her friend that way. I do understand he could have met with Jin Ho because of the protests he was doing, and could actually have provoked him in doing the protest and also provoked him against Seo Jin. But Jin Ho suddenly asking Ae Ri to come inside, was really very unusual here. You can't just kill someone who came to meet and speak about her mom, or something else. Same is the case with her second murder happening in Do Kyun's apartment. Yes she did witness the affair, but then killing her there, would make Do Kyun the prime suspect, which I doubt happened. Same was the case with Jin Ho. The police didn't know he was the killer, but on proper investigation, wouldn't they know who the last resident when the murder happened? 

 

I am overall loving the sudden surge of memories coming to Seo Jin. I was wondering how things would happen when Ae Ri would do something in the past, and it has shown quite properly. But I do see some of their actions leading to some new unwanted events also happening.

 

But, why do I feel like there is another pair too who are connected through phone here? I know chances of it happening are lower, but the way Lee Tae Kyu chased Ae Ri with the intentions of harming her, means he knows something here. Plus the overall mother's disappearance is also connected with Yujung Constructions too. But well I do admit that even I have doubts about this theory. 

 

Also the fact that Jin Ho met up with Lee Tae Kyu almost one month before, I really think that he is not alone in Da Bin's kidnapping, and could actually be a scapegoat here. They could have easily used his feelings of revenge against Seo Jin, and could have promised him to do whatever they tell him, like calling Seo Jin, even confessing to it, with the promise of bringing Seo Jin down using it. That's why I feel like Da Bin and Hyun Chae are alive, and could be used to pressurize Seo Jin in the future maybe. But this dude Jin Ho, is not the only one in Da Bin's kidnapping, and there sure is someone behind him who has done the actual stuff here. 

 

I also wonder are Seo Jin and Ae Ri supposed to meet in present time or not? She was imprisoned first, and then when Seo Jin stopped her from murdering that guy, she was dead in his timeline, and dead again when he stopped the first one. So far, it has been really hard for them to have met. Let us see whether it will happen in coming episodes or not. But I do see Ae Ri getting into more danger as she continuously will dig around to prevent Da Bin being kidnapped.

 

On 11/3/2020 at 10:28 PM, larus said:

I am really curious why Kim Jin Ho visited Ae Ri`s mother at the hospital the day she disappeared. I did not expected that.

 

Could it because even Ae Ri's dad was a victim of foul play by Yujung Constructions? He could have gone to either ask for details about it, or maybe to ask her to join him in protest (this is less likely). But I think he did visit her because of her husband. 

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@msaamia OOH I saw Repeat 365 due to loving the ML in that drama. I can see some glimmers of it but not the same as not everyone is KNOWINGLY going to the past to correct wrongs etc. But that was a great drama and not boring at all.

 

Love seeing you here @Sleepy Owl always appreciate your thoughtful write ups. You cover alot of ground that I definitely can see where your thoughts are leading. I feel they make sense and definitely am curious. LOL on the bit about the old man in the company. I TOO don't trust him for a minute. He will dump our ML in a pinch if the company is harmed. As you pointed out and I agree wholeheartedly he already had the assistant watch our ML and even threaten him when refusing to hand his cell phone back to him thus missing out talking to Ae Ri. 

 

Yeah, we could all feel that the ML and his wife were definitely not a warm lovey dovey marriage it was all for more show. Plus sad to see that it was true she was having an affair. I too felt when the assistant looked at pics or looked the wife there was a hot extra second too long that caused some concern/curiosity and suspicion on my part.

 

Def look forward to next week's episode. Such great acting and like it is keeping us on our toes.

 

ep 5 preview

 

 

BTS love watching these as we wait for next week 

 

 

clips from the drama  this week ep 4

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1 hour ago, Nodame said:

Love seeing you here @Sleepy Owl always appreciate your thoughtful write ups. You cover alot of ground that I definitely can see where your thoughts are leading. I feel they make sense and definitely am curious. LOL on the bit about the old man in the company. I TOO don't trust him for a minute. He will dump our ML in a pinch if the company is harmed. As you pointed out and I agree wholeheartedly he already had the assistant watch our ML and even threaten him when refusing to hand his cell phone back to him thus missing out talking to Ae Ri. 

 

Yeah, we could all feel that the ML and his wife were definitely not a warm lovey dovey marriage it was all for more show. Plus sad to see that it was true she was having an affair. I too felt when the assistant looked at pics or looked the wife there was a hot extra second too long that caused some concern/curiosity and suspicion on my part.

 

Hey there Chingu, glad to see you here too. As for the secretary, I wonder if he is directly involved in Han Ae Ri's murder or not. When the phone rang and he snatched it, he looked a bit shocked after seeing the screen and said "Han Ae Ri" in a bit of surprised manner. Of course there could be several Han Ae Ri, but I am sure his mind went to that Han Ae Ri. Now I don't really know is it because she was killed in his apartment, or because she contacted him one month ago, but right now I am a bit confused over her murder. Of course it will not happen, but I am still not over the fact that how the secretary was not in the suspects' list if a body was found in his apartment. Maybe we'll get to see why it is this way. 

 

As for wife and him, I really wonder whether Han Ae Ri will tell ML about it or not. Currently it might seem to be not appropriate time to inform him, but I think she needs to tell him about it. Because well, they might not really be involved in the kidnapping case (secretary could be though), but I think ML would get to know more things which he didn't know, which could lead to some useful info. Let's see on Monday whether she will tell him about it or not. But one thing is confirmed here that, the more she is getting involved, more her life is getting in danger. 

 

Also thank you for sharing the BTS, it is always fun to watch them and see the actors enjoying and having fun even while doing some really serious scenes.

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Ok.  So let me try again.  I don't know when Seo Jin texted Ae Ri but due to the fact that he texted her and stopped her from ringing the bell (and I still need to know why she would want to), she was saved from being murdered.  Therefore, the scene right afterward in September when she called him, the change already got reflected and she was no longer murdered (or not murdered at that moment by spec boy.)  At this point, it seems to me that Ae Ri's life is on the line for getting involved with Seo Jin.  She will get herself killed one way or the other.  This ship of mine is serious trouble.

Having said all that, I do like the fact that they're getting a little more personal, a little more intimate and soft with each other on a spiritual level.  Expressing worries and concerns for each other.  Then we have Ae Ri's father connection with Seo Jin somehow.  Hmmm.  The ultimate plot twist:

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Ae Ri:  You killed my father.

Seo Jin:  I am your father.

Ae Ri:  Noooooooooooooooooooooooo....

 

Me:  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

 

 

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2 hours ago, Shinobu said:

The ultimate plot twist:

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Ae Ri:  You killed my father.

Seo Jin:  I am your father.

Ae Ri:  Noooooooooooooooooooooooo....

 

Me:  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....

 

 

Hahahaha. No. Imo this plot twist is impossible and doesn't make narrative sense. There's a higher chance they are siblings rather than they are father-daughter hahahaha.

 

I don't want either of that to happen because after ep 4, I like Seojin-Aeri pair. I was on the fence before because he has a wife and also love-lines in timetravel dramas are icky. But SJ and AR somehow match, they are each other virtual support system and I really want them to eventually meet with their memories intact.

 

I like Kairos making scenes. It's so fun to watch. And I like that they also include the scene from the drama itself, the contrast between the fun filming site and the heavy drama is remarkable. The cast and crew seem to have so much fun on set, the director is funny and friendly, no wonder they teased him during the pressconference hahaha.

 

 

 

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Hahahaha. No. Imo this plot twist is impossible and doesn't make narrative sense. There's a higher chance they are siblings rather than they are father-daughter hahahaha.

 

I don't want either of that to happen because after ep 4, I like Seojin-Aeri pair. I was on the fence before because he has a wife and also love-lines in timetravel dramas are icky. But SJ and AR somehow match, they are each other virtual support system and I really want them to eventually meet with their memories intact.

 

I like Kairos making scenes. It's so fun to watch. And I like that they also include the scene from the drama itself, the contrast between the fun filming site and the heavy drama is remarkable. The cast and crew seem to have so much fun on set, the director is funny and friendly, no wonder they teased him during the pressconference hahaha.

 

 

 

I honestly like them too. They seem to be caring people even though Seo Jin lost his caring self while trying to work to get success. This can happened to anyone and he reminds me alot of my dad. My dad always was into to work (still is LOL) but often told me and sisters that he wants us to grow up fast but now he says that he wished we were still kids. I feel bad for Seo Jin but he seems like he has upset alot of people in the past. Lets see what happens. 

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2 hours ago, katakwasabi said:

 

Hahahaha. No. Imo this plot twist is impossible and doesn't make narrative sense. There's a higher chance they are siblings rather than they are father-daughter hahahaha.

 

I don't want either of that to happen because after ep 4, I like Seojin-Aeri pair. I was on the fence before because he has a wife and also love-lines in timetravel dramas are icky. But SJ and AR somehow match, they are each other virtual support system and I really want them to eventually meet with their memories intact.

 

I like Kairos making scenes. It's so fun to watch. And I like that they also include the scene from the drama itself, the contrast between the fun filming site and the heavy drama is remarkable. The cast and crew seem to have so much fun on set, the director is funny and friendly, no wonder they teased him during the pressconference hahaha.

 

 

 

I admit I'm always tempted to use these Stars Wars classic lines in my jokes.  I can't help my damn self.

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Noooo. Next week we'll only get 1 episode on Tuesday :tears:. Monday has baseball.

 

 

 

 

 

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Noooo. Next week we'll only get 1 episode on Tuesday :tears:. Monday has baseball.

 

 

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Kairos: Episodes 3-4 Open Thread

by Laica

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With all the groundwork laid last week, these episodes plunge Seo-jin and Ae-ri immediately into an increasingly dangerous race against time. Things are getting more complicated as Ae-ri tries to change Seo-jin’s past, and they begin to realize that even those closest to them are hiding secrets. As they each try in their own way to track down leads, the stakes are rising, danger encroaches, and it seems they’ve got even less of a window to solve this than they thought.

 

EPISODES 3-4 WEECAP

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Kim Jin-ho, who blames Seo-jin for the amusement park accident that killed his daughter, grudgingly gives the police information about how he killed Da-bin and where he left her body; they recover only her clothes and teddy.

Seeing Seo-jin have to face all that was about as brutal as I was expecting, and I still wasn’t ready to actually experience it. Huge and endless props to Shin Sung-rok for his incredible, heartbreaking performance here—I was almost worried he was about to keel over a few times.

 

Then there’s Ae-ri’s mom, whose mysterious visitor was Kim Jin-ho after all, as I speculated last week. Once Ae-ri makes that connection, she’s even more determined to hunt him down, and she has not one but two narrow escapes from murder. (I do have one complaint: why does she always go to suspicious addresses alone at night, right before her daily call with Seo-jin?! At least go in with updated intel!)

The first time, Kim Jin-ho would have killed her if it weren’t for Seo-jin’s timely warning to Gun-wook, who had Ae-ri’s phone. Although Seo-jin’s assistant LEE TAEK-KYU (Cho Dong-in) certainly has sufficient murder eyes too, and he’s clearly marked Ae-ri on his Villain To-Do List now.

 

more https://www.dramabeans.com/2020/11/kairos-episodes-3-4-open-thread/

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First post here. And lemme first share how much I love this drama. Loved the pacing and attention to details they have given to set apart the time lines(like the rain in ep3) and let's talk about about the twists..woah.. they kept me on the edge of my seat. 

 

Btw it's obvious that the secretary is jealous of seo-jin' s success. Maybe the motive stems from there?  He does look like he is tired of being a subordinate to seo-jin who is more capable and successful than him. And saying that he  orchestrated the kidnap by using kim jin ho, manipulated the construction project and stole everything from seo-jin due to jealousy would be absurd. There must be a stronger motive. One that binds all the villains in this drama. 

 

Some observations - 

 

1. The baby sitter still looks sketchy as hell to me. Her cheerfully watching tv just days after the child she cared for is missing just doesn't sit well. C'mon this is the same lady who claimed that Da Bin liked her more than her mother. 

 

2. The wifey and the secretary shared strange looks at the hospital. Wouldn't be surprised if she played all along and came out alive. 

 

3. When  Ae-ri  last saw Da Bin she was waving at someone. I guess the kid was with someone she knew and probably wandered into the store. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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