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11 hours ago, lebeaucouple said:

After reading so many expert comments, I am glad and thankful I learnt things from some of you by sharing here.

From this drama, it triggered me this thought, the keyword here is "Balance", a person needs to understand what role and responsibility he plays whether in the working environment or any situation he is in. A person who can strike balance between those, he will be a winner. Not easy.  Simple yet profound. When I was younger, I did not understand much of the profoundness of this keyword "balance", but I learnt it through life experience.

In all aspects of our lives balance is key. Doing one thing too much or keep repeating the same thing can cause upset, like the old saying goes, everything in moderation is the secret ! Everyday is a learning day !

“Balance is not better time management, but better boundary management. Balance means making choices and enjoying those choices”  - credit to ~ Betsy Jacobson. Cheers !

Yes balance is the key.  You brought up a valid point.  Whilst some are offended by JP's being upfront and brutal (as I mentioned, I've seen worse) he should at least commend the team for their accomplishments.   However he is not as tech savvy as Alex who understands technology on a deep level and would not be aware of the key technical milestones SamSan had achieved until demo day.  He sees the bigger picture - like seeing the forest instead of trees that small accomplishments go unnoticed. Typically, though not needed, you would have someone like DalMi report the team's progress so that JP is in the know but JP's job to focus on the business/financial aspect which at the end of the day would be the key and main interest for investors and people like JP. 

 

And yes, I understand that this is kdrama and to some extent JP has to be portrayed as a type-A personality mentor.  I personally don't take offense with his actions but at the same time the drama also portrayed the SamSan team to be on the extreme end of aspiring, talented but volatile entrepreneurs who did not do their homework to meet expectations of JP.  

 

@KabiOn another note, I understand how some fans get so carried away with kdramas. I have also fangirled before and lived vicariously through the FL (it was serious fangirling even traveling to see oppa). I blindly sided with my oppa right or wrong but came to a point where I feel that my emotions supersede logic.  It had to stop. Nothing against fangirling. I've been there done that but at this point logic and reason tops. I do still enjoy kdramas, spazz, ship characters but it ends when the drama ends.  But touché I would always say to each his own but I would still say my piece.  If you have been offended my apologies.    Let's enjoy the drama but do understand presenting one's objective perspective is not bashing and in this way it alleviates any future discord in this group.   Let's move on.  

 

@Nymeria289 yes the dynamics of the Seo family is interesting.  It's one of the different flavors of a modern family.  You can see that halmoni is by nature a good person.  I'm not sure if she has forgiven DM omma but she showed compassion the same way she did for JP.  It would be interesting to see how she can be of value to halmoni and DM.  Hahaha.  She's trying but not enough.  Let's give her credit for effort.  I'm guessing this may pave the way for healing and reconciliation between DM and IJ. 

 

BTW,  I recommend watching Shark Tank.  You'll see different aspiring entrepreneur stories.  

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11 hours ago, cmoirae2 said:

And yes, I understand that this is kdrama and to some extent JP has to be portrayed as a type-A personality mentor.  I personally don't take offense with his actions but at the same time the drama also portrayed the SamSan team to be on the extreme end of aspiring, talented but volatile entrepreneurs who did not do their homework to meet expectations of JP.  

It's interesting that you brought up type A-personality. Then DM will be type B.

 

Let's put aside the drama, many companies including my ex Corporate Company in my home country are using DISC personality test for recruitment purpose. The personality test need to be done prior to the interview or on that actual day itself sent out by HR dept. I was told by my army friend that even the Military Defence dept also using the similar test for promotion to find out whether the applicant's traits is suitable for leadership.

 

God is fair, we come from different types of personality and it is important to  have the combination of type A,B,C,D-personality in the sociality or in a company as each type has it own strengths and weaknesses. Eg. We can't have all Type A in the same company, or put all type B in one place, and so on. It has to be mixed, in order to work effectively in a team work. And the keyword, "Balance" comes into play....Likewise, if you understand the Yin-Yang (陰陽) in Chinese Astrology. We can't have too much of "Yin" or "Yang", whether in our health, or in life. Everything must be in moderate or balance. This is the key secret to stay in a happy and healthy live.

 

If we give example for DS, viewers commented for his impulsive act, so he needs to balance between his talented brain and action, moving forward. Same for JP, he needs to balance his expertise and choice of words. 

 

BALANCE - it's not like simple term "balance sheet" per say, it took me sometime to understand the essence and the deep profound of this meaning (not just on the surface of this word) everything in our life, in our society, in a country must be balance. Sorry for bringing you to the topic of philosophy. Hope not too boring for you and the rest....:lol::D

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21 hours ago, aisling said:


I find this quite baffling as well. But you know... it’s a k-drama after all, so logic doesn’t always applies :glasses:

 

The most unbelievable thing for me apart from the grandma and Dal Mi forgiving the mother so easily is that CEO Won Doo Jung even married their mother in the first place. You know their mother was a divorced penniless woman with a teenage daughter in tow. How the heck did she manage to meet or even marry someone like CEO Won? He’s not exactly like a Prince Charming who married her for love (since he cheats on her and probably even beats her). He’s the type to date models, so why on Earth did he marry a poor divorced mother? 

Mom married chaebol are really an ilogical strech in the plot. Like how did the two even met? But after finding out that the rise of startup and gig economy was part of hell chosun, how youth milenials fight against chaebol corporate culture, I get that.

 

Dad's beaten: symbol of toxic SK corporate culture. Dad was a corporate dog. Mom's comment that if a dog runnaway, it'll became stray dog. The irony was when she married chaebol, she and Inje were treat as a chaebol dog.

 

This whole drama is full of tropes: but all trope are given twist.

Candy girl in love with handsome chaebol and reform his bad personality, the twist: candy divorcee with kids met chaebol divorcee with so-so face and failed to reform his personality.

 

About grandma. Her social status a low income widow made her not dare to approach chaebol family. She's afraid that Injae will be ashamed to be associated with a corndog stall ahjumma. Everytime Dalmi talk about Injae there's longing in her eyes.

 

There's unspoken rules about chaebol family. Even Go Hyun Jung cannot met her own sons after divorcing Samsung heir. So like mom, Injae must come to approach Grandma first. 

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On 11/25/2020 at 9:53 PM, aisling said:


I find this quite baffling as well. But you know... it’s a k-drama after all, so logic doesn’t always applies :glasses:

 

The most unbelievable thing for me apart from the grandma and Dal Mi forgiving the mother so easily is that CEO Won Doo Jung even married their mother in the first place. You know their mother was a divorced penniless woman with a teenage daughter in tow. How the heck did she manage to meet or even marry someone like CEO Won? He’s not exactly like a Prince Charming who married her for love (since he cheats on her and probably even beats her). He’s the type to date models, so why on Earth did he marry a poor divorced mother? 

I think Grandma did say she hasn’t really forgive mom yet for leaving her son, but since she’s at the age where she’s seen seen & experience enough, she’s more mellow. She also realised that mom hasn’t lives all that well despite marrying a rich man.

 

However I truly think the real reason she put up with mom is because of Dalmi. No matter what she is the mother of her grandchildren. And with her age & condition, Dalmi will needs her mother’s support more than ever. So I really believe the real reason she takes back mom os to mend the mother daughter relationship.

 

As how she met the stepdad, well he is a widower/divorcee with a son too. Although he is rich, not many woman wanted to mothered a stepson. Although Mom is a divorcee with a daughter, she still pretty. Also the daughter she brings along is very smart, so he can trained her & made her do the business in place of his own son. 

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On 11/25/2020 at 5:18 AM, Nymeria289 said:

Aside from the two guys, lets just focus away....am I the only one who finds the way the whole Seo family dynamic is unraveling to be mind boggling. The mother is back with her mother-in-law and even interacts with Dal Mi but In Jae is MIA as far as form of human interaction is concerned. Does that make sense?

 

I think PHR just hate the character she wrote

 

She planned for 4 leads but until now I am not sure how In-Jae became one of the leads when she is just like a secondary characters.

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38 minutes ago, ryanallright said:

I think PHR just hate the character she wrote

 

She planned for 4 leads but until now I am not sure how In-Jae became one of the leads when she is just like a secondary characters.

I think even Chulsan, Yongsan and Saha get more screen time. Such a waste of Kang Hanna's talent. 

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2 hours ago, ryanallright said:

Precisely

A few episodes left, if PHR still cannot justify why In-Jae is one of the 4 leads when she seem more like a secondary character.

 

I will pour out all of my opinion on twitter soon 

 

Would agree.  I noticed that early on.  I feel product placements have more screentime LMAO ... twoplace, Lancôme, Columbia, etc.  still haven't seen subway though ... wait for it ... perhaps next episodes.  

 

I hope we get more of khn with the last 4 episodes.  

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