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https://www.soompi.com/article/1436756wpp/quiz-which-start-up-character-are-you

I got Dal Mi. Though at times, I can relate to Do San's struggles - I guess I have that fighting, never-say-never, we'll get there spirit in me!! 

Which brings me to this, 

7 hours ago, ChunSungIm said:

*Stop watching this drama if you always complain about who is the main lead,why the story is not like this,make comment they dropped the drama because blah2 but stupidly they watched again and make negative comment. i find it very toxic. Some attacked the real actors (suzy n nam joo hyuk),sorry to say *especially kim seon ho fans. suzy just posted bts in her ig feed about nam joo hyuk ,nam joo  hyuk commented,ksh fans felt the comment is disrespect him lmaooooooooo. I mean the samsan tech team all comented and laugh. its them as a friends in real life not as a characters in start up.
Well this drama is not your cup of tea ,please stop. Why you hurt yourself like that.

 

the drama its about youth,friendship,love and of course about learning from mistakes.some make mistakes when youre young.

It's my first time joining a discussion forum about a drama I'm watching because it's rare that I do follow an on-going drama but Start-Up's just so good to miss out on so here I am.

I'm still navigating through the ship wars and the anticipation of waiting for new eps every week so I do get surprised with all the hate and aggressive shipping. Thus, I agree with this. I mean we can all get too carried away but let's just choose to continue to love and enjoy the drama and appreciate the actors', writer's, staff, and production's efforts to give us such a gripping drama to follow. Let's say yes to talent and efforts, and no to hate :heartxoxo: 

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People can ship and like whoever they want. I’ve had my share of SLS too and was too, irrationally emotional over it. The issue I have is the hate against NDS seems to be escalated x1000000. For examp

I think I finally understand why the writer chose Nam Do San as a main lead though everything pointed to Han Ji Pyeong to be the one. It’s the timing and missed opportunity.   People a

*Stop watching this drama if you always complain about who is the main lead,why the story is not like this,make comment they dropped the drama because blah2 but stupidly they watched again and make ne

4 hours ago, zenya22 said:

And 13 years of writing letters is a long time of intimate and personal connection.

 

I'm pretty sure they only wrote letters for 1 year until JP left Grandma's.  Why do you think they wrote the letters for 13 years?

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#justiceforinjae this is more than just a lonely character like the director put it. they seem to isolate both the character and the actress himself. This show really did her dirty. I won't be able to forgive them for what they did to Kang Han Na.

 

Anyone else noticed that there aren't even any pics including her on the actor's Instagram pages? Even on her own Instagram, she's always alone in the pics. I really wonder what happened there. Why did they do this to her when she clearly was cast as a main lead?
 

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11 hours ago, peachfuzz said:

The preview for Ep 12 was also NOT promising. Are they really going to blame HJP for not warning/stopping them? They need to take responsibility for their own mistakes and shortcomings, not place the blame on HJP. If anything, they should have asked HJP to help them review the contract before agreeing to sign it. I know HJP took the day off and was kind of available, but considering the incredibly important nature of the contract/decision, they absolutely should have tried to contact HJP before making a final decision. They’re still newbies.. I don’t know if they got way ahead of themselves or what. Was there even a rush to get everything finalized? HJP was back the next day! Samsan Tech, step it up! 

I agree on that, and even if they can’t get hold of him that day, they can always go to Director Yoon, who is ultimately the founder of Sandbox & probably can give them a wiser guidance.
 

Probably there’s blessings behind things that happened the way it was. Even if its hard, perhaps all Samsan Tech members should take this as a learning process so that they will be extremely careful & more serious on what & whom they sign with. Also I think its a good opportunity for Dosan to spread his wings wider for a while. Given to him, under normal circumstances, there’s no way he will leaves Samsan Tech or Dalmi for his own career advancement. But being con like this, he has no choice but to abide the contract, for at least 3 years, working outside of his comfort zone. I dunno what Alex’s plan for the rest of Samsan Tech members, whether  they’re going to be spread out into different departments within the company, or they will remain in Korea & start up a branch there or they’re all to be laid off, since they one Alex wanted is only Dosan. Either way, they can still get back working together after 3 years as they plan if they want to. Although their portion isn’t as much as Dosan, they still have enough from that 3 billion to invest in a new company if they want to. Also again, Dosan as we know, despite his gentle & nerdy exterior, he can be bold & stubborn as a mule too. We had flashbacks where when he felt he cheated once, even if he qualified to skip high school & straight to college, he would made them sent him back to middle school to be with his peers, by pretending to not do well.   It could be the same with him in 2sto. If he feels he was cheated by them to make him stay there by himself, he probably make things difficult for them & eventually have to terminate his contract. 

1 hour ago, D27Gjk68 said:

 

I'm pretty sure they only wrote letters for 1 year until JP left Grandma's.  Why do you think they wrote the letters for 13 years?

Yes, once he left for college he stopped contacting Grandma & stop writing to Dalmi. They were only writing to each other, from the time Injae & mom left Dalmi with  dad until the day Dalmi’s dad died. Jipyeong didn’t even know Dalmi’s dad died that day, on the day he yelled at Grandma because he thought Grandma gave his money to Dalmi’s dad. And he never come and visit since then. 
 

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2 hours ago, D27Gjk68 said:

I'm pretty sure they only wrote letters for 1 year until JP left Grandma's.  Why do you think they wrote the letters for 13 years?

Did they not just meet at the place where they posted letters lately as in the 10th episode? Even if it was 1 year of letter writing, something connected there especially for DM to not forget the letter writer and after all is said and done, it is DM's call.

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Man the scene when samsan tech dismissed make me cry and hella good scene,they showing that they are young people with emotion,kudos to actors. Angry Dosan is just like young hot blooded kid. Well jipyeong telling the truth even it harsh.

 

 

what an eps

 

See when dalmi angry and talk ,she avoid dosan eyes ,while dosan facing dalmi and see her all the time,she is lying and hurt so much.

bae suzy and nam joo hyuk acting are on another level. Good job. 
 

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Officialy Team Ji Pyeong after this episode, Do San needs to grow up , like a lot. Anyway, the future sure looks promising for Injae Company, I love Injae”s development. If Dal Mi is hired , then the company can surely go forward , because the one thing Injae lacks is she cannot connect to people easily and it will be hard for a company to survive if it cannot connect to people and it solely focuses on corporate greed , top accuracy rates or simply being number one.It needs public support in the long run and it needs a loyal consumer base.Dal mi can fill that but only if they work out their differences.Or will it pose a challenge, now that the Injae team is literally too perfect to be true , filled with driven , competitive people who are there for profit , not for the team? 
Anyway,it’s not certain if Injae hired her, if she didn’t it will about the sisters competition and proving themselves all over again, which would not be refreshing.Anyway, does anyone think Alex is a villain?

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Well, this needed to be done. They were kids who needed to grow. I’m officially fed up with a love triangle but I’m staying for the grandma, sisters’ relationship, and Dal Mi’s success. It’s a good thing she went to In Jae, both sisters have a lot to learn from each other!

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Dalmi and halmoni scene talking about cosmos flower was the saddest scene for me. It’s so sad.. im freaking sad for dalmi, she thought everything is going so well and suddenly she lost everything, but she learn a great lesson this time.

Dalmi ya... you are such a strong girl.. pogihajima!! 
 

The most unexpected and touching scene for me was when dalmi actually record her call with do san and listen to it.. i know that some couple do talk on phone/skype for the whole night n just sleep.. but this is first time i see someone actually recording it. Bcoz im lack of experience, i actually impressed xD

 

i love the scene when jipyung and dosan got into fight.. i believe they need to talk with their fist first before talking heart to heart. Glad that do san telling jipyung about halmoni, coz jipyung really deserved to know about it.

 

And.. i love how halmoni talking to youngsil like she was talking to another grandchild of her.. its a sad scene but cute as well.. 

 

And im happy that saha can sleep well with chulsan’s counting video. 
 

This week episodes were amazing.. i want saturday to come fast, but i don’t want this series to end. 

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1 hour ago, Madrama said:

Why do they blame Ji Pyeong when they were the ones who read and signed the contract? It makes no sense. He even tried to stop them from signing it. 

Ita.  another area samsan guys need to learn is taking accountability.  It takes maturity to be able to admit fault and make amends.  This is one of the good traits of a leader.  The thing with dosan is everything he does revolves around dalmi not logic and reason. Not a big fan of YS and still blaming JP for his brother's suicide.  Of the 3, it is CS who listens to logic whilst DS and YS are highly strung and emotional which make them a liability more than an asset to the company, even if they have the technical skills.  SMH with YS still stuck with JP's criticism of SamSan.  Please get over it YS, otherwise it will be a burden and hinder your growth as a professional.   I'm guessing the 3 SamSan guys working in Silicon Valley will give them a different perspective however if they can't handle JP how will they be able to handle constructive feedback from people they will work with.  

 

Another thing I'd like to bring up is in one of DS's convo with Alex regarding their offer, he mentioned DS will be getting the equivalent of approx $300k per year which i think is quite high compensation for an entry level programmer (And perhaps this is the Silicon Valley rate but i highly doubt this is the case.  in Washington, DC where I am

from, this would be director level salary). While DS has the technical skills and good with programming Noongil success was attributed to DM's vision and JP's guidance.  It's not a one man's job.  I think 300k compensation for coding is not reality.  Just wanted to point this out.  

 

Winners from today's episode -

 

DalMi for making sense on what to to next inspite of what happened to their company and getting fired in the process.  She's still human and cried over losing her job and DS but she didn't dwell on it but picked up where she left off and moved forward even if it meant applying for a job at InJae's company. 

 

InJae for coming clean to the CEO.  Behind that stern exterior is still DM's big sister.  She is just a no nonsense person and sees things in black and white.   No grey areas.  I hope to see healing in the next episodes and become the big sister she was to DalMi.  

 

JiPyeong for reflecting on himself and his actions in the past (though I really think he was doing his job) and being considerate of DalMi as he gives his feedback.  But TBH I like how he thinks and operates and that is reality at least in corporate America.  

 

SaHa - softening up and seeing CS differently.  She seems to be aloof but has a soft heart.  She is like a menthos candy - hard on the outside but cool and soft on the inside.   The CS counting sheep version using Pi is the best!!!

 

ChungSan - for making that pi counting sheep video

 

Halmoni - for consoling her good boy even if good boy was being uncharacteristically emotional.  She knows him to well and that hug was reassurance that he is still the good boy from 15 years ago. 

 

Im not going to dwell on who the losers from this episode but I'm hopeful to see growth in the next episodes.   Bottom line, emotions can get you in trouble.  It would be wise to get the facts straight and use these to make informed decisions. 

 

Can't decide if DM omma is a winner or a loser but I give her A for effort.  She's trying however she still needs hand holding from halmoni to do her job so what's the point of hiring her.  

 

Downside ... I'll have to wait for another week to see the next episode.  The trailer was alluding to SamSan guys coming back ... and in business class this time hahaha ... relationship between DM and JP and DS reclaiming his position ...  all exciting ... looking forward to it!

 

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I wanted to beat RickRoll'D Young San and push him down that railing today....I really did. That boy needs to get off that moral high horse. I can't stand him at all. Ji Pyeong was right, hash words are needed at times. He is the biggest looser and whiny idiot that doesn't deserve what he got in my opinion. Do San, my god he is beyond immature. What was the point of that fight, to me it shows how he really is not who Dal Mi needs. Dal Mi needs solid emotional support, strong career advice. Ji Pyeong can still guide her but Do San has so much growing up to do before Dal Mi can rely on him. My God! As for, In Jae...in her short cameo appearance she once again showed her excellent skills as a business woman...not getting distracted, calmly handling the situation, coming clean to her mentor ...she did things right in 5 minutes she got today. Dal Mi could be helpful to her but we'll see next episode if she does get hired though. I am also glad Ji Pyeong honestly told Yong San the truth, that idiot needs to stop blaming Ji Pyeong for the death. I am glad he held his ground. I would sue for libel too but I will take it. 

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Anyway did Dalmi and the lawyer got their share from the 3 billion? I mean at least enough for Dalmi to start over? I really don’t like her sister but Dalmi working with her sister also good idea. And i think Dosan went abroad also good, it give restart for their relationship

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Hey y’all. Is this drama flopping in Korea ? It makes me so sad cuz this is such an amazing drama about young entrepreneur

 

the writer seems to really like suzy they’ve worked together on so many dramas already 

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#justiceforinjae this is more than just a lonely character like the director put it. they seem to isolate both the character and the actress himself. This show really did her dirty. I won't be able to forgive them for what they did to Kang Han Na.

 

Anyone else noticed that there aren't even any pics including her on the actor's Instagram pages? Even on her own Instagram, she's always alone in the pics. I really wonder what happened there. Why did they do this to her when she clearly was cast as a main lead?
 


yes I noticed but there doesn’t seem to be any bad blood between the actors since Hanna tagged suzy in her latest post and if u see bts njh and Hanna were laughing with each other. Maybe Hanna just doesn’t click with this group ig? Cuz everyone else seems to get along just fine with each other and post pictures except for her.

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5 hours ago, Dundee said:

Anyway did Dalmi and the lawyer got their share from the 3 billion? I mean at least enough for Dalmi to start over? I really don’t like her sister but Dalmi working with her sister also good idea. And i think Dosan went abroad also good, it give restart for their relationship

They should as stockholders.  The videographer/blogger cousin of DS got his share.  I'd entertain the idea of DM working with IJ.  This would be a good opportunity to mend old wounds however it would be interesting to see their dynamics given they view things differently - IJ more business driven while DM more into what would serve a need albeit unprofitable.  DM may change and be influenced by IJ.  In the last episode DM was slowly getting into increasing their customer base so looks like she will be able to balance serving a need and also become a profitable business.  

 

DoSan needs to grow-up.  Him working in the US will make him see how things differently.  Business is business no sugar coating and he will likely get more JiPyeongs keeping him straight and honest.  

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6 hours ago, Sanblox said:

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#justiceforinjae this is more than just a lonely character like the director put it. they seem to isolate both the character and the actress himself. This show really did her dirty. I won't be able to forgive them for what they did to Kang Han Na.

 

Anyone else noticed that there aren't even any pics including her on the actor's Instagram pages? Even on her own Instagram, she's always alone in the pics. I really wonder what happened there. Why did they do this to her when she clearly was cast as a main lead?
 

Nam Joo Hyuk has worked with Kang Hanna before, there's no bad blood but I guess they just aren't friends beyond professional goodwill. As for the rest, Kang Hanna's screen time combined up to episode 11 hardly is 2 hours (maybe less) and she barely has any scenes with the rest of the cast. You won't get close when you don't interact with those people. I doubt there's bad blood....its just plain unfortunate how the writer director side lined her and reduced her role to daily cameo appearance.

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