nona88 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 5 hours ago, rocher22 said: You're right, I watched the scene again and that woman could be Gureum If that really going to be truth I am starting to fear ending It only 12 episodes drama so I should not start writing crazy plot in my head, but looking at the long preview zi o at some point will be catch by them maybe then another's child will be made using his DNA or maybe the baby going to be his real child No Matter what I hope we at least has Gr and zi o surviving together by the end okay this week ep 5 and with the new still's and the timeline of this short drama maybe this week GR going to know the true about her parents what they did, and how they were ended It time for both of them to know who their really enemy and start help each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiera Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I hope her police sunbaes are not traitors. Also that NFS turned out to have ethics at least towards Geureum. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backstreetboysfan Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I hope her police sunbaes are not traitors as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seiran029 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 On 2/14/2021 at 1:17 PM, nona88 said: There something I have to ask about, today I rewatched ep 1 since I liked the drama I thought I should watched the start again with more attention but I had this thought will watching the first scene Did they trick us ? The baby's in the first scene is he really zi o ? Why I am asking since while watching this scene I noticed the shoes of the woman that was running carrying him is similar to GR shoes then I notice not the shoe's but body figure and way of movement !!!!. I had my suspicions in the 1st ep, but tried to brush it off hoping it doesn't turn to something like Alice Watching today's episode, just finished the first few minutes and was remembered of your point again Spoiler GR's conversation with NFS prof., in particular when he said something getting about JO married and having baby which we don't know if it will be human or monster.. is this a foreshadowing?!! We already Saw that JO is having a special urge to protect GR. GR herself seems to have a soft spot for him, not romantically but something like she would cling on as the last thread of her life long obsession of finding her parents fate. I wont be surprised if at some point GR gets pregnant I know there is no place for romance here, but something more like a bonding of two desperate lonely souls resulting in one night stand, and leaving a trace of JO behind, possibly the child in 1st ep like your theory. Whatever I just hope they don't mess it up with too much complication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Seiran029 said: GR's conversation with NFS prof., in particular when he said something getting about JO married and having baby which we don't know if it will be human or monster.. is this a foreshadowing?!! We already Saw that JO is having a special urge to protect GR. GR herself seems to have a soft spot for him, not romantically but something like she would cling on as the last thread of her life long obsession of finding her parents fate. I wont be surprised if at some point GR gets pregnant I know there is no place for romance here, but something more like a bonding of two desperate lonely souls resulting in one night stand, and leaving a trace of JO behind, possibly the child in 1st ep like your theory. Whatever I just hope they don't mess it up with too much complication. Yes the conversation in ep 5 prove more double about the baby in ep1 I thought first they will make another child like zi o but the conversation between that crazy woman from weird church and other man deny that , as I wrote before to make the Luca gene they need a human DNA only human has that special DNA that can adopt and be mixed with others DNA that why they made zi o and was trying to make other like him after he run away But the conversation in ep 5 say they not planning to make like him after they only needed one human with mixed DNA that had the dominant Luca DNA in his body they dont need like him, they need cloned , dolls that they going to make from his DNA that has no thought or feeling or human part zi o for sure was made from a really human baby and human DNA but the others that they planning to make is only their own monsters but what they know they cant win over the DNA that God made that will be in them too The conversation with the death prof and Gr ( sorry for thinking he a bad guy last week ) their conversation was interesting too I agree with Gr that zi o can has a humanity but I cant say I dont a gree with the prof side, zo cant control himself yet and he will be any animal that will go out in dangers time I am afraid a time were he lose his control and GR has literally stop him before kill innocent ( but I am in hopeful side let give him like kn ep 5 someone he care about and trust him and see how much progress he made only in ep 5 in his change way and using his mind not just instinct to save her) P.s. talking about the baby If he not zi o then there a bigger possibility he is son somehow ( ah no Alice plot I didn't watch it full but I know how it go ) and about the romance they have their's own version of it , I found it funny they talking about killing and want to be human and both find a space to ask of they ever loved before in middle of that kind of conversations zi o totally drawing to her even if has no ability to tell what the name of his feeling but ep 5 prove that she equal, no maybe more important then his own safety and that go against his surviving instincts that drive him till now( so she becomes belong to him to have the surviving instincts work on her too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 So zi o will be arrested from this new video The next plan from the preview take out zi o DNA , copy in secret all the database and take samples from the all subjects in research ( okay the others baby's ) Then kill everyone , i mean everyone the babys , the research team maybe even the one who made zi o, and kill zi o- for sure has to die All they need the results of the experience not the experience itself or the people who make that happen They talk about making miracle all time when they are just mad people who destroy even miracles as much as they need Side note: at least the mad doctor who made zi o look like he care about him at least as his creative but that why I think they going to kill that doctor first, he has other goals of why he make zi o then what they have Cant wait for today episode I hope zi o can find his lost memory or understand what happening at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdramagrandma Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 EP 5 is just full with heart-wrenching moment. How can this made me feels for the characters than most of the romance drama nowadays?? They are two people who barely know each other, with Gu Reum needs Ji O to find the truth about her parents and Ji O is a loner who is always on the run for reason he doesn't know. The dynamic changes between them in this scene, from Gu Reum being overly cautious and keep clutching onto her gun, Ji O walking over to close the distance between them leading to Ji O venting on his feelings and leaning onto Gu Reum and she finally lets her guard down by relaxing her hand. WHO WOULD NOT BE BAWLING BY THAT?! And then this happen I am just Ji O usually just runs away but I guess he met someone he truly wants to protect and now he is willing to fight back. They are on the same page now that I really hope will ease their loneliness just a little bit. Besides them, I couldn't help but worry about Yi Son and Yoo Na now. Their background as a former army really groom them as someone who would do anything to finish their given mission. Constantly being hit and insult at every moment they failed their mission really messed them up. People might argue that they are grown adult who should know better but even grown adult still can be brainwashed. I still have high hope for Yi Son and Yoo Na and I really want them to be saved. I need them to stay alive and make amends to all things they did and properly learn and accept that everything they have done is wrong. Tbh, I am getting tired with evil characters/villains need to die to redeem what they have done. That is so wrong on so many levels and being dead doesn't mean you are not accountable to what already happened. You're literally forcing people who were hurt to forget everything and move on without getting their own closure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Between the first photo on the left and the second and third one's the prove of twisted love ( when people love is about owning something not person ) okay that just a feeling I have when I saw this still's Source the article talk about zi o rage knowing the true about why he was created They going to see the real thing they created , the monster they wanted not the human he want to be I hope the doctor who made him have a really and normal affecting to him I dont think he know they planning to kill him after taken what they need But he still human or he was going to kill them all easily as he had many chances to kill whose chase him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 First , i officially I hate the doctor who made zi o , just today i post a hopeful post about hoping he has some affection and some love for zi o or at least some humanity in him, but no he a twisted monster more then what he trying to created 3 hours ago, nona88 said: Between the first photo on the left and the second and third one's the prove of twisted love ( when people love is about owning something not person ) okay that just a feeling I have when I saw this still's It was a playful note about the still's but not any more twisted love is not even close to what I saw today, i understand why people till now remember Frankenstein monster when Frankenstein is the name of the one who made it even as story it prove that mad monsters are the human being Sorry mant things break my heart in this ep but as much as seeing the way that crazy person treat and use zi o emotional before anything also ( I can imagine he did that to him as child too, he literally want to control him to be his world again so he was trying to make him burn him memory again so he can make him believe anything he say ) Spoiler He saved him in the end but that not out of love I understand enough korean to know he saved him cause he the proof of how the doctor is superior , so yes he dont love him he love himself his creative and his pride as doctor there no way he let them kill what he made , a proof how much he a super scientist ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 Kim Rae Won Strikes Back At Those Who Wronged Him In “L.U.C.A.: The Beginning” Drama Preview Feb 16, 2021 by L. Kim Kim Rae Won will start fighting back in the upcoming episode of “L.U.C.A.: The Beginning”! “L.U.C.A.: The Beginning” is a sci-fi action thriller starring Kim Rae Won as Ji Oh, a man who is being chased for his special abilities, and Lee Da Hee as Gu Reum, a violent crimes detective who is the only one who remembers him. Kim Sung Oh plays Lee Son, who is the chief among Ji Oh’s pursuers and used to be part of the special forces. Spoilers Previously, Ji Oh rescued Gu Reum who had been kidnapped by Lee Son and started a counterattack against the his pursuers. He declared, “I’m not running away anymore,” and he arrived in front of Human Tech that holds his secret backstory. The newly released stills depict an alarming moment between Ji Oh and the people of Human Tech. Ji Oh finally comes across Ryu Joong Kwon (Ahn Nae Sang), the head of the research center. Ryu Joong Kwon is the key to recovering his memory, and he embraces Ji Oh with kindness and warmth. However, he changes 180 degrees after putting Ji Oh on the experimental table, unraveling an uncontrollable madness behind his professional facade. Ji Oh becomes hooked to machines, and smoke creeps out of his mouth. Judging from his distorted expression, he is experiencing devastating pain. Then the tables turn when Ji Oh wakes up. He steps off the experiment table and advances towards the Human Tech employees without any hesitation. His eyes are filled with rage, and it seems like he will undergo a crucial change. Lee Son, Yoo Na (Jung Da Eun), Hwang Jung Ah (Jin Kyung), and Kim Cheol Soo (Park Hyuk Kwon) look alarmed about what will happen next. Ji Oh explodes every time he encounters a crisis, and expectations are high for how he will use his powers against Human Tech. more https://www.soompi.com/article/1454630wpp/kim-rae-won-strikes-back-at-those-who-wronged-him-in-l-u-c-a-the-beginning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiera Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 The title of the drama has 'beginning' in it. I noticed only now. That means they probably want to make another season if everything goes as planned. How is the rating? So we may only know about the baby in the last ep. I really thought it was Lee Da-hee btw, her dressing shoes and all, but the sound and the build were different could be a trick to confuse us. BTW, what happened in Alice? I don't mind getting spoiled since I won't ever be watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickfactor Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Just noticed that the boy who plays young Ji-Oh is the same actor who played the young Namgung Min in Awaken. (which is also a tvN show that aired the same time slot right before L.U.C.A.) So this boy's niche is to play the poor kid who is a victim of experiments by a mad scientist. (In any case, it's really heartbreaking to see those scenes of him as a kid, screaming in terror. Good actor, but very hard to watch.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 After 4 weeks of being treated as lab animal , after 4 weeks of being in pain that even he cant handle to the point his heart stop many times After 4 weeks thinking even if that person is my father he a monster even remember mr Kim words about not having the right to treat animals like this and remember Kim himself who he forget All that was not even a drop of the pain he felt when he enter that room and see all the baby's subject that was before him and realized that he was one of them , born as lab experience The pain of realizing that he not even a human from the start , that even the crazy father and unbelieve story is more mercy from the fact, that pain on his face and his scream was a new level of a broken soul That why I said I will never forgive that doctor not just for what he did to him all his life but for the emotional use he did to him, he destroyed and played with his emotional in way worse then what he did to his body Just kill them all really after this episode they not even human , the woman was planning to kill everyone anyway if it not for zi o running and now I think she going to that and make zi o the crazy murder who did it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backstreetboysfan Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 OMG poor Ji Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thong Thin Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Beginning Ep 5, where Lee Son inject Zi Oh neck several times inside the car, I find that scene very fake. How can he just poke the needle without focusing on the exact location of the neck where there are several veins could be fatal if wrong injected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA C Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Although I like watching the actions part but this episode was quite torturing to watch how they grill Kim in the voltage experiment. So saddened by the repeated torture they put him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdramagrandma Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, akiera said: what happened in Alice? Tbh, I don't remember much because I was determined to forget about that drama. I can't even force myself to watch the very last episode. So what I am about to say about it, my feelings might skew my memory about it. Spoiler It started interesting. With time-travel concept, they tried to make it explainable through science theories. The female main character is a Professor in Physics. I have to say my first impression was good and I was holding on to it as I watched it further. The male lead is a police officer. Then it become a convoluted mess, even went bordering incest-y (the male lead is the son of the female lead from the future who came back to the past and raised him, and the male lead and female lead from the present met practically closer in age and you will get them playing house where he is imagining that is his mom who died and the female lead is attracted to him, sort of, but in the end convincing themselves that their past/future version is not themselves, they are different person, where in the real world doesn't make any sense because DNA test will say otherwise), no more theories talked about. I guess the writer just run out of ideas. And the final villain (that I know since I skipped final episode) actually is the male lead himself who travel back in time from years further. You will get to see how Joo Won might look like when he is older and much wrinkle-ier. Honestly, I don't know how it ended but I did check out the thread and the general feeling I got was it is bad. Kim Hee Sun and Joo Won are great actor/actress but I have to say, the plot ruined the drama and no amount of good acting can saves it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Such beautiful scenes between Ji O and Gureum in ep.5.. bts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftCoastOppa Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 So 6 episodes in and they've managed to keep the cat-and-mouse game going - I like it - I'm really hoping that Zi-O's parentage is just a psyche job to keep him off balance as some eluded to. As bad a past as our boy has endured, it would just be the end to discover Dad really is an evil mad scientist, and Mom is a whacked religious zealot - Nice to see Bad Guy ML is still kicking. After todays episode I think our Bad Guy/Girl leads know who their employers really are. So lets start the redemption arc - throw in some Bad Guy/Girl romance - Help Zi-O get away - and hopefully in the end, neither one has to die - So Captain Choi ... still not sure about him. 8 hours ago, kdramagrandma said: 16 hours ago, akiera said: what happened in Alice? Tbh, I don't remember much because I was determined to forget about that drama. I can't even force myself to watch the very last episode. So what I am about to say about it, my feelings might skew my memory about it. Please don't talk about Alice ... ( watching the last episode makes you do this .... I watched the last episode ) Its easier to say ... " if they ever write a book on how to destroy a great drama in the last 2 episodes, ALICE will have an entire chapter to itself " ( I still miss Do-Yeon ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocher22 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1: 27... Poor Ji O 1: 52.. He looked boyishly innocent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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