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[Drama 2020] It's Okay not to be Okay, 사이코지만 괜찮아

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Every episode has been a solid range from funny, angry, in love to sentimental while sustaining a mentally stimulating plot filled with mysteries and dialogues carefully containing hints.

 

I found it interesting that KT wants MY to recognise facial expressions from ST's board and then we proceed to see KT talking about pretending to smile because ST will observe his expressions. Somehow I wonder if KT just feels more comfortable if MY would read his facial expressions instead of constantly trying to read deeper into his thoughts (like what ST would do) because it would be easier to hide his true feelings that way. Tbh I don't think MY can't read expressions but it just feels like she has a blatant disregard of it most of the time.

 

Particularly enjoyed the dialogue of his conversation about Zombie Child between them. Although previously we only considered the book to portray their personal relationship with their parents, KT uses it to pose a question to her if she only wants him to please her desires (like an object of affection) or does she want his warmth in her life. 

 

The window scene at his home where she had remarked that they feel like Romeo and Juliet and discussed on how Romeo had not drank the poison together perhaps is a metaphor of her asking him if they are both willing to risk their lives for this love. In their current dynamics, MY definitely plays the role of Juliet in the sense of giving her all and convinced about her love enough to finish the poison. But perhaps it was her way of saying that she needed validation that KT feels the same.

 

KT is rather mysterious sometimes. He seems to know a lot more than he shows. It was surprising that he knew who MY was and never said a word about it. I do wonder when did he started knowing about it. Was it as early on as he expressed that her eyes seem familiar? Or was it when he saw her father? Did JR and MY's conversation revealed their childhood relationship? Or was it because she asked him about the girl she resembled before they went to bed? Would it also be possible that through the story of the Zombie Child that he truly sensed that MY was the girl he had known from his childhood due to him knowing something about her family and seeing similarities to her family dynamics? Now I am curious whether he was so concerned over her because he knew she was the girl he once knew.

 

Contract for ST, unfairly signed or brilliant? MY and her unconventional mind has her unique ways to solving things. So I am curious whether signing the contract with ST was merely because of wanting them to move in with her or to avoid their contact with JR? I somehow feel that she understands the dynamics between ST and KT way deeper than anyone else and she intentionally wants to empower ST. Of course, he is a worthwhile talent to work with too and it definitely kills a lot of birds with that one stone (her career, get closer to KT, helping ST, protecting both the brothers from JR hahaha).

 

Honestly I'd like to think it was brilliant. Nobody else was going to give ST the opportunity but has the power to open new doors for him. I believe she knows that KT is overburdened all his life to live for somebody else. And opening this door for ST could mean that she is also fulfilling ST's desire to be the one to take care of KT. It's an all rounded good call.

 

Btw, was the patient who slapped JR reading MY's mom's novel? When MY said her mom was physically dead but mentally alive, could it be that her ideas still live on and inspire someone else? What I mean by that is could there be a murderer on the loose (as discussed by other comments on this thread) that is living out the murderous ideas writen by MY's mom?

 

I am also very curious about MY's father who seems to "hallucinate" himself being strangled. Was it the "ghost" or was it all an imagination? Is MY's mom potentially being a bad character all just an imagination of MY's dad? Or could she have become a ghost in the hospital? Or is there a patient acting on MY's mother's behalf?

 

I think the random patient's dialogue when the hospital director was being chased by ST "funny how those who are supposed to be wearing the hospital gown isn't" might be hinting of another non-patient character who has a mental disorder among the characters we see right now. 

 

During the drinking session where KT tells JS that he has been forgetful was a rather bitter moment. It feels like when he is around MY, he could just let go and forget about his situations for a moment. He can just forget about ST for a short while, forget about his own pain and forget about his past. And yet he reminds JS to constantly remind him of them.

 

It's sad that JS expresses the same prejudices JR has been trying to establish about MY. I thought JS might be different but I guess he is just saying that out of worry for KT. Eventhough JS talks about how MY had left him with a scar and the fact that she could lash out in violence at any time, KT smiles (like a creep from JS' perspective) because he could understand her erratic behaviours and the reasoning behind them better tha anyone else. Same goes for MY. Although she gets angry at KT's shirt when thinking about him paying her for her sympathy love for him, she saw the dissonance in his actions. MY is angry at what he said but deep down understands his sincere desires towards her. 

 

I really like @cenching comment on the dad who attempted to kill his own daughter and end up found dead with a stab in the neck. If KT's mom was also found that way and if they were both done by the same person, it could only mean that it is KT, MY or ST? In this case, I would find it interesting if it turns out to be KT. Since JS did say he smiled like Chucky eh, maybe it is a hint at innocent turned possessed-ish? Hahaha. But I would definitely hate it if the show went on to talk about how we should not stigmatise mental disorders and then goes around to make an autistic adult a murderer. If MY was the one, it would feel way too predictable as well.

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Hello everyone, what do you think is the implication behinds the blood going backward in the end of ep 5? Anyone minds to share what you think it means?

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many that i love from this ep.. Enjoying all the comments. So many thing to say but i dont know how:D

im very curious about MY mom's history bcs im confused from the first ep with MY statement & now we have scenes abt the ghost (but also not really sure + highlighted patient that potentially know MY) in ep 5 that reveals little. Lets see whats happen next..

 

after all the heavy parts, this extra so on point

just like the meme we would take when we watch them in motel scene lol such a mood:lol:

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just like we are not patient abt how their tension make us sooo in crazy:lol:

 

add: @LanA about the blood backwards, in mine it just like KT finally decides to face his past with MY as little kid, bcs he was hurting bcs that history + the thinks about he disappoint himself by running away from her, hurts her & neglect her, so its like he undo the scars that she made on him instead, then facing the fact that he liked her, how about now? Is it still same? Or it is unfinished business? He like want to make sure about it. I think like this way bcs that scene happen just before he entered back the castle & sitting all alone.. We'll find out..

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@LanA do you mean when KT was remembering while he was drinking? For me, I think it symbolizes to KT, it wasn’t painful and he didn’t feel the bleeding because being with MY made him forget his current more painful reality of having to live only for ST and not himself. This is just my theory...

 

@bairama I feel the Director was trolling us fans that were shipping KT + MY due to their crazy chemistry with this hotel owner shots lol

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31 minutes ago, LanA said:

Hello everyone, what do you think is the implication behinds the blood going backward in the end of ep 5? Anyone minds to share what you think it means?

Let me interpret the meaning :lol: But please don't take this as the valid fact yes. And I'm sorry in advance in case the explanation is going too be over-analyzing. Hahaha

 

So the backward blood flowing represent how he reminiscent their first confrontation interaction. He seems to forget that he got the scar while trying to stop MY from stabbing the patient. That scar somewhat like his alarm to make him remember the reality he has now. Since JS mentioned that scar he got because MY is not as normal as the the other girl. In other words, they're not matched each other.  

 

While imho ST is continuously attracted to to MY. He can't stop his growing feelings so he need some excuse to forget her. And that scar could be the excuse that she doesn't fit with him. 

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17 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

 

As you can see, KT can be the mother and the zombie kid in the end, just like MY is the zombie kid.   

 

I can clearly see KT as the mother with ST as Zombie Kid. KT loves, protects, sacrificed everything for ST and think he knows ST best. But apparently he was wrong proven by the conversations between them about moving back to their hometown.

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23 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@vangsweetie637 You are right that ST might have feelings for MY and it could also explain why KT is determined to do anything so that ST doesn't meet MY.

From my point of view, KT is the one clinging onto ST and not the other way around. He has spent his whole childhood and even his entire life dedicated to his brother. Imagine the brother starts to live his life on his own. Then the brother's life has no meaning, he has lost his purpose. I sense that he resents his brother because he can't show his true feelings (his pain, his frustration and anger) but at the time, he is afraid of losing his brother. He would become an empty can ...

@40somethingahjumma I loved your posts, especially the one where you mentioned the responsibility of the parents. Diagnosis or not, the moment it is outspoken, it can change the perspective of the parents and actually contribute to worsen the conditions of the child. My problem with the diagnosis is that it stigmatizes the patient and takes away his identity. The doctors might speak for the best interest of their patients but the problem is how people around them react. And it shows that even the nurses at the hospital are not immune to categorize the patients. The colleague from Juri couldn't even imagine that the father wanted to kill the daughter. She diminished the intention behind his action due to the surgery. Only the psychiatrist could understand that no matter what there was no excuse for this behavior.

 

What annoyed me the most in this episode is KT's friend who kept insulting MY... she is a lunatic, crazy aso. Fact is that he wasn't present at the scene and has no idea what really happened.

 

And now, let's talk about the fairy tales. Like @40somethingahjumma mentioned, on the one side fairy tales reflect the society and its mentality, hence the image of the wolf in fairy tales has drastically changed.

In the older stories, wolves were scary creatures and associated to evil and danger. Now, it is different because wolf is species in danger. In the French story "Le plus féroce des loups" (Fierest wolf) written by Sylvie Poillevé, the wolf is actually the hero of this story, while the human beings are the bad ones. The hunter, the butcher and the ogre want to kill sweet and weak animals and the wolf protects them by eating the hunter, the butcher and the ogre. This story reminds us that we are no different from the wolf in reality as we are also eating animals. Furthermore, we shouldn't judge people based on their reputation. It contrasts so much to the elder stories like Red riding hood and the wolf. That's why MY used the idea of a zombie, a rather modern idea.

 

On the other side, a fairy tale helps the children to learn through these stories. It helps them to find and construct their identity and their own thoughts that's why it is important for children to have access to fairy tales. I believe that KT had never had the time to read these stories and learn lessons for himself. Here, Bettelheim wrote a book about fairy tales in term of Freudian psychoanalysis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uses_of_Enchantment

 

The problem with this kind of story is each person can interpret it so differently. Let's take the example with the little Mermaid:

- one might perceive the power of love. She is willing to die because of her love for the prince and they consider it as something amazing

- MY said that she shouldn't have tried to steal the fiance

- However, we could also say that the prince could never love the mermaid because she was different. Let's not forget that she was mute. She might have been beautiful but she couldn't speak. Here, the prince doesn't appear as prince charming at all, rather superficial and shallow. He couldn't fall in love with her because she was impaired. 

- The fact that she dies at the end and the prince doesn't notice it could be perceived as something negative too. All her sacrifices have been pointless. No one shouldn't sacrifice himself/herself because of love. People shouldn't give up their own identity. Let's not forget that she was a mermaid in the beginning. 

 

And now, I would like to talk about the zombie kid:

- One might admire the mother because she is willing to die for her son. She must have loved her son very much.

- one might criticize the mother because she only made sure that her son would have enough to eat. So she prioritizes too much his physical well-being

- another might notice that the mother never talked to her son her whole life. The only communication she had with him was just before her death. Here, this could be seen as a warning: parents should talk to their children in order to know what children really need. The boy was longing for love. Communication is the key word.

- another could come to the conclusion that the mother already had a prejudice about her son and made sure that no one would meet him. She feared for her reputation: how could she have given birth to such a child? She wasn't even willing to leave the village, when it was necessary. Image was more important than life. (here an allusion to the politician's son). He represents the shame of the family. He needs to be kept hidden.

- Another could perceive the unrealism of the mother's sacrifice. No parent would be willing to sacrifice himself/herself for the child

- Another reader could come to the conclusion that her sacrifice is totally pointless because after her death, her son will die.

- One might see the mother's possessive and obsessive behavior. She wanted to keep her son by her side hence she never allowed him to live on his own and discover the world. Or she feared that the child might get hurt by the comments from others and wanted to protect him, however the love for her son led to his death because as soon as the mother dies, the son will die... Here you could see some parallels with ST and KT is the mother... he is forgetting to live his own life.

 

As you can see, KT can be the mother and the zombie kid in the end, just like MY is the zombie kid.   

I am sorry to be a lil bit rude and out of topic but

 

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19 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@vangsweetie637 You are right that ST might have feelings for MY and it could also explain why KT is determined to do anything so that ST doesn't meet MY.

From my point of view, KT is the one clinging onto ST and not the other way around. He has spent his whole childhood and even his entire life dedicated to his brother. Imagine the brother starts to live his life on his own. Then the brother's life has no meaning, he has lost his purpose. I sense that he resents his brother because he can't show his true feelings (his pain, his frustration and anger) but at the time, he is afraid of losing his brother. He would become an empty can ...

@40somethingahjumma I loved your posts, especially the one where you mentioned the responsibility of the parents. Diagnosis or not, the moment it is outspoken, it can change the perspective of the parents and actually contribute to worsen the conditions of the child. My problem with the diagnosis is that it stigmatizes the patient and takes away his identity. The doctors might speak for the best interest of their patients but the problem is how people around them react. And it shows that even the nurses at the hospital are not immune to categorize the patients. The colleague from Juri couldn't even imagine that the father wanted to kill the daughter. She diminished the intention behind his action due to the surgery. Only the psychiatrist could understand that no matter what there was no excuse for this behavior.

 

What annoyed me the most in this episode is KT's friend who kept insulting MY... she is a lunatic, crazy aso. Fact is that he wasn't present at the scene and has no idea what really happened.

 

And now, let's talk about the fairy tales. Like @40somethingahjumma mentioned, on the one side fairy tales reflect the society and its mentality, hence the image of the wolf in fairy tales has drastically changed.

In the older stories, wolves were scary creatures and associated to evil and danger. Now, it is different because wolf is species in danger. In the French story "Le plus féroce des loups" (Fierest wolf) written by Sylvie Poillevé, the wolf is actually the hero of this story, while the human beings are the bad ones. The hunter, the butcher and the ogre want to kill sweet and weak animals and the wolf protects them by eating the hunter, the butcher and the ogre. This story reminds us that we are no different from the wolf in reality as we are also eating animals. Furthermore, we shouldn't judge people based on their reputation. It contrasts so much to the elder stories like Red riding hood and the wolf. That's why MY used the idea of a zombie, a rather modern idea.

 

On the other side, a fairy tale helps the children to learn through these stories. It helps them to find and construct their identity and their own thoughts that's why it is important for children to have access to fairy tales. I believe that KT had never had the time to read these stories and learn lessons for himself. Here, Bettelheim wrote a book about fairy tales in term of Freudian psychoanalysis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Uses_of_Enchantment

 

The problem with this kind of story is each person can interpret it so differently. Let's take the example with the little Mermaid:

- one might perceive the power of love. She is willing to die because of her love for the prince and they consider it as something amazing

- MY said that she shouldn't have tried to steal the fiance

- However, we could also say that the prince could never love the mermaid because she was different. Let's not forget that she was mute. She might have been beautiful but she couldn't speak. Here, the prince doesn't appear as prince charming at all, rather superficial and shallow. He couldn't fall in love with her because she was impaired. 

- The fact that she dies at the end and the prince doesn't notice it could be perceived as something negative too. All her sacrifices have been pointless. No one shouldn't sacrifice himself/herself because of love. People shouldn't give up their own identity. Let's not forget that she was a mermaid in the beginning. 

 

And now, I would like to talk about the zombie kid:

- One might admire the mother because she is willing to die for her son. She must have loved her son very much.

- one might criticize the mother because she only made sure that her son would have enough to eat. So she prioritizes too much his physical well-being

- another might notice that the mother never talked to her son her whole life. The only communication she had with him was just before her death. Here, this could be seen as a warning: parents should talk to their children in order to know what children really need. The boy was longing for love. Communication is the key word.

- another could come to the conclusion that the mother already had a prejudice about her son and made sure that no one would meet him. She feared for her reputation: how could she have given birth to such a child? She wasn't even willing to leave the village, when it was necessary. Image was more important than life. (here an allusion to the politician's son). He represents the shame of the family. He needs to be kept hidden.

- Another could perceive the unrealism of the mother's sacrifice. No parent would be willing to sacrifice himself/herself for the child

- Another reader could come to the conclusion that her sacrifice is totally pointless because after her death, her son will die.

- One might see the mother's possessive and obsessive behavior. She wanted to keep her son by her side hence she never allowed him to live on his own and discover the world. Or she feared that the child might get hurt by the comments from others and wanted to protect him, however the love for her son led to his death because as soon as the mother dies, the son will die... Here you could see some parallels with ST and KT is the mother... he is forgetting to live his own life.

 

As you can see, KT can be the mother and the zombie kid in the end, just like MY is the zombie kid.   

First post here, HELLO!!As always yours comments are insightful and the last one, in my opinion, is exactly what MY has lived with her mother! She was the zombie kid as KT so all she wanted to get from her parents was a natural and parental love. But she's now an adult so i guess KT's love will help her to recover from her sad past. KT is hiding his true feelings from her because he's afraid. He loves his brother but when he said to him "You are my everything" i think he was not sincere. He's scared to live his own life even if ST will leave his side. Hope to see both MY and KT overcome all the problems and openly love each other. Love is all they need to receive and express!:heart1:

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2 minutes ago, Samuel Yohanes said:

I am sorry to be a lil bit rude and out of topic but

 

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Your font is a bit painful to read imo especially if it is a long text.

 

 

 

Then why quote the text? You could have tagged me. But thanks for the recommendation.

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3 hours ago, mademoisellesia said:

If you find out about the interior of the house do let me know. I don't believe I have seen it. I think Moon Young's room is likely to be a set, but the lobby may be real...looks real anyway. TKEM's set (study room) is a bit easier to determine as specially built to suit LG, but this one is hard to tell.

 

@mademoisellesia  Have a look at THIS LINK.  Scroll down till the end...

 

 

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@YongZura⁷ Oh, thank you!

Kudos to the architect and carpenters. Really did great in giving us the visual experiences (and making it a halloween house).

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Bit of nagging, they cast two great actresses (Joori's mother and the head nurse), it seems like they are a bit too under utilized at the moment. I hope they have more screen time with the main casts. The dynamics would be awesome I imagine.

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Started this only because of Kim Soo Hyun but it's so easy to fall in love with this drama. The storyline, directing, acting, mood everything is just amazing. It's refreshing to see a Female Lead who is selfish and is willing to manipulate people (making mentally challenged Sang Tae sign contract papers) to get what they want. I am tired of watching female Leads who are unrealistically candy and bit of a pushover. 

 

I wonder what's the reason behind KT pretending not to remember MY. If it's because of his guilt of running away from her then he would've been more nice to her. But it seems like he was affected only by their recent interactions. 

 

I feel bad for KT. His whole world resolves around his Hyung. I wish he would understand that he can take care of his Hyung while also living his own life. But can't blame him his mother always told him that she gave birth to him so that he take care of his brother so maybe he considers it his duty.

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I like this drama and I haven't felt that excited about a Kdrama for ages! Hopefully this one doesn't disappoint.

 

The only 2 things that I don't really like about this drama are:

- Kim Soo Hyun's stiffness (very few facial expressions)

- MK's girliness/seductiveness that is cute but sometimes make her look childish.

 

Hmm... I guess now I understand why... Kang Tae is used to control his facial expressions because of his brother... and as a loner he's not used to express his emotions, he might also have been feeling unhappy for years.

As for MK's straightforwardness and stubbornness, she probably still acts like she did as a child (minus the sexual attraction lol), because she's never been close to people. She hasn't learned to compromise and tone down her temper. Her mother indirectly taught her to be authoritarian, it seems.

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May I ask what time does the new episode comes on Netflix later? it airs at 9pm-10pm Korean time. so i will get to see at 10pm KST ? 

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@bebebisous33 Re: Jae-su's comment about MY.

It's all too easy to default to a kind of convenient judgmentalism. When people are hard to understand and act in ways that don't immediately make sense, they are immediately deemed "crazy". It's the all-encompassing label that we plaster on anyone from suicide bombers to a stranger who starts talking to us on the street about random stuff. It's often just a blanket description of someone else who does things that we wouldn't dream of doing ourselves. Calling someone "crazy" these days has a certain banality attached to it. It's almost meaningless at times because the degree of seriousness the word represents is wildly variable.

 

I suspect that one of the lessons of this story is that it's all too easy to jump to conclusions about someone when you don't know their story or when you know part of their story and think you know all of it. The reality is that we don't know everything about anyone. Sometimes we know enough to be dangerous. In truth, Mun-yeong is an enigma to most people particularly because she flouts conventionality. No one gets her. Why would anyone... in an honour and shame culture especially... do what she does? The convenient answer would be: "She's crazy". In so saying, there's no need to probe further or explore possibilities. The trouble too is that no one was allowed to get close to MY and she was coached into acting against her own interests which through time has added to the mythology. Gang-tae who has a few pieces of the childhood puzzle thinks he gets her and then realises he doesn't. (That's the purpose of the flashbacks to show us that his knowledge of her actions has always been incomplete) Even when he's read Zombie Kid he still hasn't plumbed the depths that is MY because he doesn't know the whole story but fragments of it. Same with Ju-ri. Jae-su knows even less because he is further removed from the action but like everyone else, he thinks he's entitled to an opinion of her because a) he's a loyal friend b) she's an infamous celebrity. To be fair, Jae-su is a simple guy and I don't even think he completely understands Gang-tae either. The talk about "forgetting" seemed to go right over his head. 

 

A lot of this comes from the fact that in general people are more adept at talking than listening. We hear words but not their meaning in their context.

 

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It bears repeating that the act of violence which resulted in the scarring of Gang-tae's hand was not an assault on him. He was preventing her from attacking someone else. While she may have taken liberties with his personal space, she's never done violence to him. If anything, she's been quite protective of him. For a so-called "crazy" person MY has always been intentional and targeted about who she inflicts violence on.  She doesn't attack randomly. Of course it doesn't justify the attacks but it does show that she's not as "crazy" as people perceive her to be. She has discernment and more self-control than you'd expect. Although it doesn't prevent her from being territorial about GT in the hair-pulling incident with Ju-ri. Heh. ;)

 

I think GT realises that MY isn't going to go away that easily or that he can just wish her away. She is someone that is determined to be a part of his life. And there must be a reason why after all these years they met each other again.

 

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