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1 hour ago, chickenchopflipflop83 said:

everyone is younger than joon gi except for  kim ji hoon who plays bhs i think hahahah

Yes only Kim Ji Hoon is older he was born in 1981.

Lee Joon Gi (1982)

Seo Hyun Woo(Reporter Kim) - 1983

Jang Hee Jin (Hae Soo) - 1983

Moon Chae Won is the baby (1986) and she is so smol next to everyone in the lead cast and fiesty in the drama (which I find very cute :))

 

42 minutes ago, jeonghyang said:

But don't be scared ... your savior is here for you.

 

I am waiting for when they will reveal to her if they have time that she is actually his noona too in the drama:) not her oppa.She is the older one:hwaiting2:

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I really have enjoyed the writing on this show and feel like each episode there's a nice little twist or piece of information that comes out that makes the story interesting. The writer has done a good job at building upon previously set up plot points to that the reveals make sense and are impactful. 

 

That said, I was seriously disappointed with two things that felt like the writer got a bit lazy in putting pieces together.

  • Out of nowhere, the Police Chief is a bad guy and supplying information to Daddy Baek? At least give one or two hints or a set up of this instead of shoehorning this information into the episode just to give a reason for the end scene to happen.
  • Ji Won is not stupid enough to let Do Hyun Su's CHILD go off with Do Hyun Su's SISTER by themselves. This entire show has show how smart and clever she is and she doesn't think to get them a police escort to wherever they're going?

I can get on board with Hae Su being mistaken for Ji Won and the writer going there but it was a lazy way to get there

 

I don't think Hae Sue's going to die. Eun Ha is in the other room and can dial 911. I'll bet Moo Jin shows up anyway. I think at this point everyone may life and the Baek family gets shipped off to prison. 

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1 hour ago, thingskateknows said:

I was seriously disappointed with two things that felt like the writer got a bit lazy in putting pieces together.

  • Out of nowhere, the Police Chief is a bad guy and supplying information to Daddy Baek? At least give one or two hints or a set up of this instead of shoehorning this information into the episode just to give a reason for the end scene to happen.
  • Ji Won is not stupid enough to let Do Hyun Su's CHILD go off with Do Hyun Su's SISTER by themselves. This entire show has show how smart and clever she is and she doesn't think to get them a police escort to wherever they're going?

I can get on board with Hae Su being mistaken for Ji Won and the writer going there but it was a lazy way to get there

I agree with your second point on Hae Soo and Eun Ha. Nothing more to add.You have spoken my mind.

 

The first point, I dont think it was shoehorned per se. A few pages back, from around episode 11-13 we were already suspecting there is a mole in the police.I already had a gut feeling even earlier than that(I got the suspects wrong though). But more people echoed my thoughts recently.There was some information that the Baek Family knew in episode 12-13 that they wouldnt have known but for someone leaking it to them from inside the police.

 

As for Hae Su being mistaken for Ji Won. My two cents,  I dont think it would have made a difference whether it was Ji Won or not.The guy is a looney(crazy), I even think he would have been happier if he knew from the start that she is Hae Su. Both are the people that matter the most to Hyun Soo. From the bits I understood, in addition to being crazy, he kind of has an inferiority complex to DHS and also jealous of him. It seemed like DMS favoured DHS over BHS and he was wishing he could have his approval as his apprentice. DMS was willing to protect his son and BHS didnt like it. Thats what caused BHS to snap and kill DMS. So BHS would be happy to get back at DHS by murdering or hurting his precious people (Ji Won/Hae Su/Eun Ha) or at least cause DHS to snap and fight him.Thats what gives BHS the thrill.

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1 hour ago, thingskateknows said:

I really have enjoyed the writing on this show and feel like each episode there's a nice little twist or piece of information that comes out that makes the story interesting. The writer has done a good job at building upon previously set up plot points to that the reveals make sense and are impactful. 

 

That said, I was seriously disappointed with two things that felt like the writer got a bit lazy in putting pieces together.

  • Out of nowhere, the Police Chief is a bad guy and supplying information to Daddy Baek? At least give one or two hints or a set up of this instead of shoehorning this information into the episode just to give a reason for the end scene to happen.
  • Ji Won is not stupid enough to let Do Hyun Su's CHILD go off with Do Hyun Su's SISTER by themselves. This entire show has show how smart and clever she is and she doesn't think to get them a police escort to wherever they're going?

I can get on board with Hae Su being mistaken for Ji Won and the writer going there but it was a lazy way to get there

 

I don't think Hae Sue's going to die. Eun Ha is in the other room and can dial 911. I'll bet Moo Jin shows up anyway. I think at this point everyone may life and the Baek family gets shipped off to prison. 

I agree with you about the end, including that Hae Soo will survive, but I think you are a little hard on the writer. The police chief isn't actually a bad guy. He is just a bureaucrat who is doing a favor for a guy with connections who he doesn't suspect of any ulterior motive. Baek Man Woo said he was worried about Cha Ji Won, and the police chief is assuring him that she is okay. If he had been supplying BMW with information all along, I would agree that the writer shouldn't spring another bad guy on us at this point.

 

As for Ji Won, she thinks that the secret of her being free is safe and that the accomplice is busy going after Jung Mi Sook and getting caught in Hyun Soo's trap. She is so worried about Hyun Soo she can't really think about anything else. What bothered me more was that BHS didn't seem to expect a cop to put up any defense, especially after he had broken the lock and trashed the place, but I'm willing to cut the show some slack for the sake of the suspense.

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I do think that episode 15, like what was shown in the preview, is going to be the climax between BHS and DHS and then episode 16 will be where they wrap things up, in a way. I'm not entirely sure how they might do that. I'm assuming they'll have BHS, whether he's alive or dead, somehow pay for his crimes and the entire Baek family for helping cover him up, and then maybe DHS will be able to clear his name.

 

But after watching the episode again, it was confidential information that CJW was safe yet the police chief told BMW, since he believed he was genuinely concerned about her safety, so then someone would be suspicious if the rumor goes around that CJW was killed, unless BHS is planning on framing DHS for that murder, too, which is why he took the police badge. But even then, the police would know that it's a lie because CJW is with them. Also, I'm assuming that BHS doesn't actually know what CJW looks like, unless he saw her picture in the house somewhere if he broke in earlier. However, I'm assuming the police probably ransacked the house looking for evidence, that's why the place was a mess, and that BHS just broke off the lock so he could come in when he thought CJW was back. So when he looked at the police badge, it was broken, so he wouldn't have been able to fully see the picture anyway. Other than that, I guess their hair is sort of the same length.

 

Also, like I think I said before, BHS pretty much made another mistake, even if it were actually CJW there, someone would be looking for her. Maybe he thought that since DHS was on the run that he wouldn't come back for her or that DHS knew that if he did, he would only get arrested for murder and not be able to do anything. No matter who it was that he attempted to murder, though, someone would be looking for them and I guess he thought Eun Ha probably couldn't do much and also, Eun Ha hadn't done anything. To him, who liked to plan things, CJW is the thing he can't control in the game so his only way to continue playing the game he wants, he had to get rid of her. Another theory I saw said that it was perhaps a method to just scare CJW since BHS didn't attempt to take her fingernails. In the video it was also said that in the text preview for episode 15 talks about KMJ heading to the house.

 

This is a translation of the text preview that's on Naver:

 

Kim Moo Jin, who talked on the phone with Hae Soo, excitedly heads to Hyun Soo's house. However, inside of the dark house, he becomes white at the sight of Hae Soo lying on the ground. Meanwhile, Hyun Soo, who doesn't know this fact, heads to the designated meeting place to catch the accomplice where the fateful meeting between Do Hyun Soo and Baek Hee Sung takes place!

 

Also, I'm glad that CJW and DHS got to air out a little bit of their grievances, mostly their trust issues with each other that are still there. Hopefully after all this is over they'll be able to have a somewhat peaceful life.

 

5 hours ago, deandraluv said:

Quick question: Is it true that TVN gave us only one episode (ep 14) this week? So ep 15 and 16 will air next week? 

 

I'm pretty sure we're getting both episodes this week. This is the TV schedule on Naver.

 

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about the whispering in the cupboard.. who would have thought they're gonna give us the ASMR that we actually asked for?

 

anyway i dont think they're gonna wrap up the suspense part of the story decently, they just dont have enough airtime left to do that. So, I'm gonna ignore the various plot holes and concentrate on how the writer resolves Do Hyun Soo and Cha Ji won's love story. at least that part has been consistently good so far. 

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7 hours ago, deandraluv said:

Quick question: Is it true that TVN gave us only one episode (ep 14) this week? So ep 15 and 16 will air next week?

We will get episode 15 today and episode 16 on September 23rd. :D

 

So happy to see the ratings reach their all-time high so far. Well-deserved!

:wow1:

 

Stills for episode 15. :D

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1 hour ago, kdrama said:

do you all think hyunsu will kill haesung ahhhh they keep me in suspense

I don't think he will (he needs to think about JW and Eunha) and I don't want him to because if he did kill, then we will never get a happy ending ...  forever hopeful:winkx:

 

( I am just about to watch the  latest episode...)

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@Jillia

 I guess BHS provoke DHS and tell him that he killed Cha Ji won like he think.in that sceneDHS really angry to BHS like the scene he almost kill Yom Sang Cheul.

I believe the writer keep big secret about DHS past because he can't remember all his memories below 10 years old. The scene he seemed to be lost on a the jungle was still a mystery. And maybe we will get the answer in episode 15.

I can't believe Doo Hae Su get hurt.I wish she survive.I wanna see they together like CJW said that she will invite Do Hae Su and I guess she will introduce her to Eunha as her aunt,She save Eunha life like DHS save her life by claim the foreman village murder was his doing.

Baek Man Wo is like a wolf.He use all the way , bribe the head police.That why serial murder case close in past.

Do Min soek is evil too but I guess the real serial murder is Baek Her Sung.He is really psycho and have no mercy.Do Min Soek still have a heart not. include do Hyun Su to killed Jung Mi Soek in 2002.

and now Jung Mi Soek try to save Do Hyun Su life by call Cha Ji Won.But DHS workshop is far away, how the police will arrive soon?

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5 hours ago, kdrama said:

do you all think hyunsu will kill haesung ahhhh they keep me in suspense

He better kill Baek Hee Seong!! After stabbing his supposed wife, which turned out to be Hae Soo (his sister), scaring his daughter who's already traumatized by the whole event, Baek Hee Seong is destroying his family and his life. Plus, Baek Hee Seong killed DHS parents too!! Also putting all his crimes to put the blame on DHS Grrr...I hate him so much!! If he doesn't kill him, I'll personally poison him in jail!! :evilelmo:

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After rewatching some of the episodes, one thing that I thought was kinda cute was their text messages that DHS scrolled through during episode 9 when he was worrying about what CJW said about divorcing.

 

The one, about an air fryer:

 

DHS: Should we buy this?

CJW: We don't have a rice cooker at home?

DHS: It's not a rice cooker, it's an air fryer

CJW: What do we need that for?

DHS: To grill samgyeopsal

CJW: Why didn't you buy it yet! Give me my samgyeopsal quickly!

DHS: Haha

 

And my personal favorite, her asking how much he likes her

 

CJW: Honey, how much do you like me?

DHS: I don't

CJW: Do you want to die? 

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Wife being practice even in tensed situation B) I liked that Jiwon was angry at him for putting knife on her neck. We often see in dramas that female leads easily forgives male leads for their questionable behaviour just because he had a reason. I understand DHS's reason but I also liked that she didn't let it go immediately and actually yelled at him. 

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I honestly don't want DHS to kill BHS firstly he will be jailed for that and secondly I want slow punishment for him for all the sufferings he put Hyun Soo and Haesoo through.

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