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4 hours ago, bombshellchick1 said:

There's a mole in the detective team!

 

4 hours ago, Jillia said:

That's what I've been thinking as well. Also with the money the Baek family has they could buy any cop. :o

I said it two episodes ago. But my suspects were detective Choi and captain lee woo cheol. But after episode 12, I am sorry Detective Choi for doubting you. Now I have two new suspects. The section chief and even cutie baby cop(its always the innocent-looking ones who do the craziest things) in addition to captain lee.One of them is a mole.

 

On to softer things... protect these babies 

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And Eun-ha remains the sassiest, sweetest, cutest munchkin.Telling her dad to never to cry like this again when he misses her because he is an adult. 

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Daddy loves you a lot, Eun ha.

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From episode 12 I can learn

1.Cha Ji Won and detective Choi consider DHs is kind person.HE is innocent.And Cha Ji Won will support him no matter what happen.

2.Every person can be judged bad by other people, but if we don't care about people said is doesn't matter.But in DHS case he is being exorcism by village people, jugged him as son of murderer,Because he often considered to be possessed by evil spirit by community, DHs assumed he was indeed possessed.from this we know how much more evil  the impact of wrong judgement.Poor DHS he lived in very bitter past.

3. I think BHS parents are more guilty for covering their psycho son.If we can accept that their son had act so mad and had killed so many people, they should have reported their child to police.We know this is drama.WE don't know what happen to Gong Mi Ja.She look so scare of his son after BHS killed their nurse.She called his husband because she was afraid of BHs.She know his son will do anything to keep him save.That why she defended him and said to her husband that the nurse threatened her first.she don't know what to do.BEcause she really know his son is psycho and nothing can change him.What Gong Min Ja said to her husband was more to calm her down that she will educate BHS well/not evil anymore.

 

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They fed me well with sweet OTP moments too:wub:. I stan couples that know the value of open communication. Did I say how much I love this filter. Cinematographer -nim and staff who decorated this place. Thank you.

 

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@violina

How is my day? 

- Fabulous. Higher bosses both MC, raining all day... Back from work, stuck in traffic jammed. 

Thank u for asking... lol.. :lol:

After this, want to watch episode 12 with subs. Last night, watched the RAW and skipped almost every scene without our DHS. 

Aigooo.... The Baek family is marvellous. Rich but they will never get happiness. 

 

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1 hour ago, Jillia said:

That's what I've been thinking as well. Also with the money the Baek family has they could buy any cop. :o

 

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That's so true though! Why wouldn't Do Hyun Soo spill the info to Cha Ji Won, so she can take proper actions against the Baek family and especially Baek Man Wo? Yes, in the end she found out but they could've gotten there quicker with him just telling her right away. :lol:

I have replayed yesterday ep 10 part where Do Hyun So met up with Baek Man Wo to get money at the hospital, and there is no mention whatsoever about the police getting involved with the exchange. And you're right! How can Baek Man Wo say the police were involved when he called seong chul human trafficking ring leader? Where did he get that info? If there is a mole, who is it? Which detective? If it's Detective Choi, omg Do Hyun So (thankfully he didn't mention he suspected Baek Man Wo, smart Hyun Soo) spoke with him before the big guy interrogation...hopefully not him, he seemed very concerned abt Cha Ji Won and even didn't arrest Do Hyun Soo.  Maybe they cropped that line? Or maybe the writer was rushing, now that there r 4 episodes left. 

1 hour ago, violina said:

 

I said it two episodes ago. But my suspects were detective Choi and captain lee woo cheol. But after episode 12, I am sorry Detective Choi for doubting you. Now I have two new suspects. The section chief and even cutie baby cop(its always the innocent-looking ones who do the craziest things) in addition to captain lee.One of them is a mole.

 

On to softer things... protect these babies 

 

And Eun-ha remains the sassiest, sweetest, cutest munchkin.Telling her dad to never to cry like this again when he misses her because he is an adult.

Dady oves you a lot, Eun ha

I like Detective Choi but I still suspect him. Good thing Do Hyun Soo didn't say he suspects Baek Man Wo is trying to kill him..

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1 minute ago, bombshellchick1 said:

I have replayed yesterday ep 10 part where Do Hyun So met up with Baek Man Wo to get money at the hospital, and there is no mention whatsoever about the police getting involved with the exchange. And you're right! How can Baek Man Wo say the police were involved when he called seong chul human trafficking ring leader? Where did he get that info? If there is a mole, who is it? Which detective? If it's Detective Choi, omg Do Hyun So (thankfully he didn't mention he suspected Baek Man Wo, smart Hyun Soo) spoke with him before the big guy interrogation...hopefully not him, he seemed very concerned abt Cha Ji Won and even didn't arrest Do Hyun Soo.  Maybe they cropped that line? Or maybe the writer was rushing, now that there r 4 episodes left. 

and @violina

Just imagine though... we all think it's not Detective Choi after episode 12 but suddenly he actually IS the mole.  IF there is one of course.

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On 9/9/2020 at 12:22 AM, violina said:

5) Those village/city people dont deserve RickRoll'D. Thats their payback for all the exorcisms they did on DHS, the media harrassment to Hae Soo and rumor mongering about the Do Family. They spread the serial killer story about DHS being an accomplice when there is no proof he had committed the murders. Hae Soo already compensated the victims' families even though I dont think she needed to. I dont believe in children paying for sins of their parents. They did not benefit from the serial murders like wealth instead their lives were ruined. Both siblings worked hard on their own to earn the things they have and to live the comfortable lives they are living.

Hae Soo coming through with that truth serum gave me life:evilelmo:. I love it when movie characters speak my mind.

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Why should I feel guilty? After what he did to Hyun-Soo? He took Hyun-Soo to exorcism rituals almost every day. He told people that Hyun-Soo was possessed with our dad’s ghost. He gathered all the angry villagers and made them take out their rage on Hyun-Soo. He was only eighteen back then! In the end, Hyun-Soo really started to believe that he was possessed.

 

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29 minutes ago, Jillia said:

@Sleepy Owl @ainipang

I understand your sentiments. :D

 

For me, weirdly, I went in without any expectations. I was just very happy to have Lee Jun Ki and Moon Chae Won in another drama again. :D Then I found out and was intrigued. I think I would've expected Lee Jun Ki a killer if it were OCN and the drama would go to darker places than it already does on tvN.

 

I have to admit I was hoping for a more ambiguous Do Hyun Soo in this drama. I wanted him to be harder to root for. I think I would be okay if in the end he isn't a killer (before we knew he isn't) as long as the drama doesn't make him too good and too misunderstood. I think the - so far - did a good job to resolve the issue but of course that leaves viewers who expected more or something different unsatisfied.

 

I also think it's a bit sad for Cha Ji Won because the teasers hinted to conflicts and even the first episodes were very much clear on that Cha Ji Won is on one hand a detective who only finds suspects with evidence (but also doesn't shy away from using violence) and on the other hand a wife and mother who would "eat the poison" her husband gives her. I would've loved to see more conflict on her part but since Do Hyun Soo is pretty much absolved this conflict is non-existent.

 

Also, I'm a bit sad that - and I'm sure of it - the hint to Ji Won's "two face" and her past with her father won't play a big if any role anymore. And that's such a waste.

 

I still find myself very entertained and the drama is definitely one of the TOP this year. So that's something. :D

Yeah I would be satisfied a little bit if Hyun Su had actually killed the village foreman. I really thought he did because the village foreman was forcing himself on Hae Soo, could have made sense to some extent. But showing him so much innocent is fine, but I did not really expect it. 

 

But yes, if this had been OCN drama, believe me it would be very DARK. The moment I read it I started wondering and it really would be very dark. Murders would be much brutal. 

 

As for Cha Ji Won's past, we really don't think we'll be getting it. There was a time I thought she was also faking it like Hyun Su, I thought about it when she went full crazy mode on the girl who murdered the lady. I am more disappointed that her past is not shown or had influence on the story than Hyun Su being shown so innocent and misunderstood. It would be really interesting to see her search for the truth a bit more aggressively. I mean look at the poster and the teasers they showed, I really thought they would have a showdown. She being a competent detective would give it all in searching the truth and ruthless while being so. I am not saying what they showed was wrong, it was also quite natural the way she acted, but the teaser and posters had promised us more.

 

Ji Won;s past, her relationship with her father, she being a two faced person, all was teased and then left out I guess. I really think that the writers had a change of mind midway through and decided to focus the story more on the present and Hyun Soo than on Ji Won.

 

So far this drama has been good, except for that big plot hole/WTH moment, I really hope they'll finish it properly and not make us question things.

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Pat me, I pat you couple....aigoo these two:heart2beat:

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I like how she enveloped her hand in his first.But then he switched it and enveloped his hand above hers and then pulled her into a hug.Knowing she is not ok and Ji won needs to be comforted.

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As much as I was a bit disappointed with the real Hee Sung standing and him killing the maid - we all knew she was done for from the start right? - I really like what the writer is doing with the establishment of Hyun Su as a misunderstood guy. I totally understand your sentiment @Sleepy Owl that it would have been a very interesting take to have us try and figure out if he is a killer or not through the run of the show. But I do like that through the course of episodes 1-12, it's been the breakdown of assumptions about who Hyun Su is and the breaking/rebuilding of trust with him and Ji Won. It's a really nice character study and, honestly, refreshing to watch a show where the lead couple is so ride or die for each other.

 

I particularly like that Hyun Su has really learned most of what he knows about warmth, love and commitment from Ji Won. Yes, his sister was there for him, but in an environment filled with stress and trauma. He's spent 14 years healing with Ji Won and learning how to love someone. I really like that the show has spent time giving us the reasons we should be rooting for them as a couple.

 

I love that Detective Choi realized that Hyun Su wasn't the bad guy everyone was making him out to be. I want to know who the one witness was that said Hyun Su couldn't kill someone. I wonder if that will come into play later?

 

I don't know if Ji Won's past will come up at this point? I think that might just have been a character trait they gave her - not necessarily something that will be significant later on.

 

So now we move into the last four episodes and we know that Hyun Su will be framed but I think Ji Won, Detective Choi and Moo Jin will get the truth revealed (with Moo Jin maybe being killed) in the end. 

 

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As for the mole, I really thought Baek Man Woo had already figured out how Hyun Soo would act, asking all that money from him. He did tell him that with that money he can find the Accomplice of the murders. So Baek Man Woo would have already joined the dots and understood asking that much money would mean him meeting only one person. But if there really is a mole in Police, it could be the Junior detective.

 

Detective Choi I think either I or someone else had mentioned long ago is the typical type of Police detective who loves to play dirty. So chances of him being corrupt is 50-50. So for now I'll leave it to that only. Those type of Police officers are either really easy going or extremely righteous. This guy could be anyone of them. 

 

But for now, I'll say I don't think any mole in Police force is there. 

 

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