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@Dev11O Blessed angel for your quick recaps. You are a saint for someone stuck at work and dying to know what is going on. :hooray2:

 

ep 13 preview 

 

 

 

clips for today 

 

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ep 11 clips in spoiler 

 

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Ep 9-10 scenes 

 

 

 

 

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Welp!  I knew i should have dropped when the drama was still lacklustre at episode 5.  I let episode 6 and it's promise of plot progression fool me..but episode 7 is just more of the same nonsense and

@taskdramafanatic, thank you for starting the thread. Waives to @larus, @Jillia, @Helena, @Kita Techawongtham, @rocher22   Namgoong Min, Seolhyun, Lee Chung-Ah Lead Script Reading for tvN Dr

Just finished the ep and yeah it had less filler than the previous eps.

They should have let Jamie atleast throw a punch. It has been a long while since they let Jamie do anything worthwhile. They basically use her as a prop and plot device. 

LOL atleast one mystery is solved, the super specs. That is cool. 

And so the monster was all three of them. Makes sense. 

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I tried but I give up. This show could have been good if it weren't for the unnecessary filler & Batgirl. Seriously this could have been a tight show by just eliminating her character. 

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13 hours ago, Dev11O said:

One thing that surprised me was that hye won was shocked when she saw her father and her information together in that. I mean why, why is she so surprised it's not at all a surprising thing. Well it just proves again she is not that bright.it 

@Dev11O  I was surprised too, ... duh?  Once she found out her father was part of WNV it was pretty obvious he didnt hire her by coincidence.

 

I have been watching along with this show and really mostly like it.  The acting really is very good.  Namkoong Min is very attractive, but he also has charisma and the ability to draw you in to the complex character he is portraying.

 

I do like Kong Hye-won although I see several people in this thread do not like her.  I think he brings her on the team because of her father, but I also think he has fallen for her and she is her weakness even more than Jaime.  I think at one point we hear his thoughts about her being unexpected. 

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1 hour ago, maddymappo said:

I think he brings her on the team because of her father, but I also think he has fallen for her and she is her weakness even more than Jaime.  I think at one point we hear his thoughts about her being unexpected. 

This is true. Though Captain doesn't show it much he certainly likes her more than he intended to.

I think people on the thread are not fond of her because of the romance aspect. I expected this drama to properly develop the wnv story line and flesh out the characters of the three children. They could have delved deep into the mystery and the abilities of the three children. However, that time was taken away and given to the romance story line. Even if Hyewon was a secondary character who had deep respect and crush on her captain, this would have worked. We didn't need to spend too much time and attention on her inner monologues or her dialogues with Do Jung woo. They put Moon Jae Woong and Jamie's character development on back burner. Jaewoong's was probably to keep the mystery but they literally have Jamie as a prop. So for me the romance was a distraction from the plot. Which is why I am not fond of her and in the beginning eps she was too rude and brash. Adding on to that the drama as a whole has other faults too. 

 

 

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14 hours ago, Dev11O said:

They probably won't explain it like we want to ...

1) At this point they are telling Jaime is just human. She doesn't have any super powers but she has an high IQ. 

Or else we will get to see her powers later in the episodes as she now finally remembers everything.

2) I couldn't figure that out but I think Maybe it was because he was just more close to Jaime. 

Or he couldn't get it because of Jae woong's DID. They really can't seem to connect with eachother due to this.

3) They explained this earlier in the episodes, WNV was started as an orphanage but just not you regular orphanage. Rather than just creating a normal orphanage, a village was created and families were asked to take care of children, so they wouldn't feel as orphans.

This was done with govt funding.

You can just check that episode, I think ep 3.

4) she is certainly using the formula that JW gave which stops aging and provides immortality. Anyway she is a test subject herself. Everything about her creeps me out.

5) I personally think,since she has OCD and is a germaphobe, she mainly carries wet wipes, sanitizer and all in that bag. That's it . people with germaphobia usually carries these stuffs with them.

 

Now I am thinking what if WNV was just you regular orphanage then JW and Jaime would have been your regular kdrama childhood soulmates.

According to the preview it seems like JW still wants Jaime to go back to US , as we know she won't.

Now it's her turn to make decisions, whether to join forces with JW or not.

Thank you so much for answering some of my questions! 

 

Though i got to say, jamie seems useless at this point as this character is solely used for showing the audience the past and theres lots of ways to do that rather than wasting a whole character on it. 

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Soompi Awards: Best dramas of 2020

 

Here is your chance to vote for the prime time k-dramas you enjoyed the most last year.

Which dramas will win our prestigious award? Please vote! :kiss_wink:

 

 

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About Jaime - didn't that operation remove whatever powers she had?  I do not think they ever explained that operation on her. :Please: 

Perhaps this has been discussed on this thread already. If anyone can  explain this I would appreciate your insight.

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Because explaining anything more about Jaime or Giving her more Storyline would take away screen time from Seol Hyun and her blank stares...the Horror!  

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5 hours ago, maddymappo said:

About Jaime - didn't that operation remove whatever powers she had?  I do not think they ever explained that operation on her.

Perhaps this has been discussed on this thread already. If anyone can explain this I would appreciate your insight.

The surgery was done and they never mentioned what kind of surgery but they did say cyberknife was used. It is used to remove tumor or abnormal growth in brain.

It's not shown whether she had any powers before surgery, only thing that was shown was that she has OCD which is a side effect of the experiments and a higher IQ. She also have trauma and memory loss, apart from that nothing about her powers is mentioned. 

Even now also they are trying to implement she is just human and JW and jae woong are the only ones who have powers.

I don't know if they will show whatever powers she has in the coming episodes. Even in the previews nothing is shown about her powers.

The writer unnecessarily tried to put in a romantic relationship for the male lead. There was not need for this.

A simple emotional connection between the main leads would have been enough.

 

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Frankly speaking romance was always completely unnecessary in this drama.

Subjectively, if the so-called loveline had better chemistry, I wouldn't mind it but it's not a deal breaker. 

 

Objectively even if you took out the suggestions or hints of romance, it doesn't in any way affect the plot. The storytelling can still continue as is without it. The romance itself doesn't drive anything. Jung-woo was always going to do what he's doing. He's not the one killing people. And Hye-won was probably always going to do what she's doing because she believes that some things are right and wrong. The present outcome could also be achieved even if they had a mentor-collegial relationship. 

 

My main issue with the drama is not the romance or even Seol Hyun... although a stronger actress in the role would have helped sell the romance. It's always been the script. The ideas are good and that's what people are responding to. But the presentation and the execution of the storyline doesn't reach the heights that it could. Why? I think it's because the show doesn't take care of the fundamentals -- the character development, the building of relationships and the way the mystery/mysteries unfold. All the elements aren't integrated well.

 

Just look at Uncanny Counter or Sweet Home which are doing similar sorts of things, and feel the difference. They make you care about the people and what happens to them. With Awaken, it feels like the drama is just going through the motions of being a crime thriller and the drama is moving around the chess pieces. On the other hand, Uncanny Counter doesn't do anything particularly original, it follows the superhero template to a T but you learn to love the family dynamics and each individual Counter has his/her own arc. Everyone's relatable. I was shedding tears in Sweet Home, a monster show for the same reason. 

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Soompi Awards: Best and Worst of the Rest (Dramas 2020)

 

Chingus, welcome to our final poll of 2020. :kiss_wink:  You can vote for:

 

1) The best C-drama of 2020

2) The most disappointing K-drama or K-drama ending of 2020

3) The best abs in a K-drama in 2020

 

 

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@Dev11O  I do see your point.  They do seem to drop the ball when it comes to Jaime. It's as if they did have a plan for a bigger role for her, .. her background with the FBI and that strange operation, what was it for, how was it planned etc?  She then runs into the road alone, which is so dangerous.  Why would they let her do that? On and on and on.  And,they brought in the very pretty pop star and spent time showing her relationship with her family (somewhat) and her crush.  I do not think that was an complete fail because it shows how a monster who can casually use little human children as guinea pigs, can also love his own daughter.  But who knows. Perhaps her bat girl abilities were given to her by Dad.   Perhaps she will be the one to die as Dad's karma comes to get him.

But it would have made more sense to keep her more in the background as a secondary story.. and interest and not pushed her out in front of Jaime as the secondary idea.   Yet, some how I am still enjoying this series.  In the last episode they didn't refer to the poem.  We still don't know why they all memorized that poem. 

On 1/7/2021 at 1:08 AM, Dev11O said:

The surgery was done and they never mentioned what kind of surgery but they did say cyberknife was used. It is used to remove tumor or abnormal growth in brain.

It's not shown whether she had any powers before surgery, only thing that was shown was that she has OCD which is a side effect of the experiments and a higher IQ. She also have trauma and memory loss, apart from that nothing about her powers is mentioned. 

Even now also they are trying to implement she is just human and JW and jae woong are the only ones who have powers.

I don't know if they will show whatever powers she has in the coming episodes. Even in the previews nothing is shown about her powers.

The writer unnecessarily tried to put in a romantic relationship for the male lead. There was not need for this.

A simple emotional connection between the main leads would have been enough.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Samuel Yohanes said:

Someone said that jung woo and jamie is a real sibling... 

 

Thoughts guys?

Well, the scene where Jamie is about to fall, Jae Woong asked Jung Woo “Are you going to let your sister die?” 
 

This episode f** me up into bits. I’ll wait for the subs to make sure I understood it correctly.

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They are siblings. It's true. The writer ruined everything. 

Now I wonder whether this is how the story was supposed to go. 

Did the writer change it according to the actors ?

If the writer really changed the story for the actors, maybe that's why the story became a mess. 

Maybe this was not how the story was supposed to go.

I really didn't want JW and Jaime to be siblings, but it's true.

I have no other option but to accept it.

And now after watching the live stream it's seems hye won is getting more time than Jaime.

Jaime is more like a Cameo in each episode.

Isn't Jaime supposed to help JW, since she is from WNV. But now it's all hye won and JW show.

And in the last scene of today's episode the villians got hye won and was ready to hold her hostage.

Now the writer is saying that hye won is JW weakness.

That certainly doesn't make much sense. Jaime is now JW's sibling and logically he is supposed to save and protect her . What does the writer want from this story?

Anyway the next episode seems really intense. Now I am damn sure JW won't survive this.

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2 minutes ago, Dev11O said:

They are siblings. It's true. The writer ruined everything. 

Now I wonder whether this is how the story was supposed to go. 

Did the writer change it according to the actors ?

If the writer really changed the story for the actors, maybe that's why the story became a mess. 

Maybe this was not how the story was supposed to go.

I really didn't want JW and Jaime to be siblings, but it's true.

I have no other option but to accept it.

And now after watching the live stream it's seems hye won is getting more time than Jaime.

Jaime is more like a Cameo in each episode.

Isn't Jaime supposed to help JW, since she is from WNV. But now it's all hye won and JW show.

And in the last scene of today's episode the villians got hye won and was ready to hold her hostage.

Now the writer is saying that hye won is JW weakness.

That certainly doesn't make much sense. Jaime is now JW's sibling and logically he is supposed to save and protect her . What does the writer want from this story?


Was really excited for this episode since ep 12 ended but this one really disappointed me a lot. How the hell did the writer came up with a poor character development of Jamie? Good for Han Ye Seul for dropping this drama! I have nothing more to say coz I’m so annoyed. Btw, do you know what Jae Woong was doing after the altercation? He was almost teary eyed speaking to his hyung about Jamie and Jung Woo. 

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29 minutes ago, x_x___chi said:


Was really excited for this episode since ep 12 ended but this one really disappointed me a lot. How the hell did the writer came up with a poor character development of Jamie? Good for Han Ye Seul for dropping this drama! I have nothing more to say coz I’m so annoyed. Btw, do you know what Jae Woong was doing after the altercation? He was almost teary eyed speaking to his hyung about Jamie and Jung Woo. 

I don't know what they were talking about. I don't have that much knowledge in understanding korean. I can only understand few things. It seems the misunderstanding is still not cleared ..

Maybe jae woong will help JW to finish this. That seems like a logical conclusion for jae woong.

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