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So Jamie finally realized the third child’s identity and bad Jae Woong said that good Jae Woong will not go out again because they need to rush what they’re doing. Jae Woong is just after all White Night Foundation people. He doesn’t care about anything else. Jae Woong is mad at Jung Woo for taking Jamie and leaving him alone. Jae Woong is enemy of both the foundation and Jung Woo. If that’s the case, he can still have a slim chance for a change of heart. Anyway, the urge is to kill the people who experimented and abandoned him. But I don’t think that he will survive in the end. He will definitely die. That’s the fitting end for him although it still breaks my heart. I hope Jamie will realize Jae Woong has two sides and she was not played after all. Because the good Jae Woong was the one she had always been meeting in the convenience store. Maybe she can draw the good Jae Woong and have him suppress the bad side. That’s my wishful thinking at this point.

 

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Welp!  I knew i should have dropped when the drama was still lacklustre at episode 5.  I let episode 6 and it's promise of plot progression fool me..but episode 7 is just more of the same nonsense and

@taskdramafanatic, thank you for starting the thread. Waives to @larus, @Jillia, @Helena, @Kita Techawongtham, @rocher22   Namgoong Min, Seolhyun, Lee Chung-Ah Lead Script Reading for tvN Dr

Hi All,

 

I am dropping by. I have been watching the drama for Nam Goong Min and enjoying the plot. Lately not loving it but still interested to keep plugging /chugging along to watch this drama.

 

-Sad that NGM character has a finite amount of time to live. Glad he is trying to bring down the FOUNDATION.

 

-The female cop and she likes her boss but he admitted having her close to hold her dad in check as he works for the Foundation. I concur GLAD she found out by hersel (though ML gave her breadcrumbs).

 

-The maknae of the group loving the praise he got for doing a good job. Cute! He doesn't get enough screen time but glad to see him a BIT  more this episode.

 

-The race to figure out the third person. Jamie figured it out so only a matter of time that JW does too . I agree with the man who took care of him and took him in--just saying a man who is 34 is VAGUE. 

 

I like that the ML is using the dirty money to give to bribe the female cop. She was right to wonder why he did not offer to the other guy who treasures him. He is too nice and cares for JW. Also to the drug seller---sad he is "dead" by the blue house guy's son. Dang. All over drugs. He finally had a chance for a future to go back to school and have his grandmother have her surgery. Sad sad.

 

Until next week I am liking this drama.

 

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5 hours ago, rocher22 said:

 

JW is still looking for who the third child is.

Jamie found out and I expected her to tell him right away. :confused:

She could have visited WNV earlier.

JWs safety is more important.

 

Jaime doesn't know where JW is but she could have informed her team members.

JW will probably find him in the next episode.

The preview hinted at that possibility,even if he doesn't find Jae woong,at least he will get a very important clue about his identity .

Regarding Jaime visiting WNV, she could have visited earlier but she didn't want to . But now what's motivating her to visit WNV is jae woong's betrayal.

She always knew she had an important role in WNV tragedy but she never wanted to dig more into it, Maybe she was afraid of the truth.

But after JW was caught, she was ready to face everything about WNV as she became more curious. She mainly wanted to find what JW has to do with her.

JW promised her he will reveal everything the next time they meet.

I don't know if the writer will make her remember everything before that scene or will make JW to tell the truth about that night.

But I personally want her to remember everything before that confrontation.

In other forums, they were discussing how Jaime and the police force was dumb,at not realising all the victims had same watches.

I mean I get it, they never went through victims personal belongings, because the police force is dumb. This fact was already established. The cops and the special team are not that bright.

Why Jaime never noticed it, to think about that, she was always focussing on JW or rather obsessing over the fact that JW is the culprit. She was always looking out for him, observing him, noticing his every move. 

I thought why she was so ignorant about other possibilities.

why didn't she think someone else could be the killer?

But after thinking, I think she subconsciously was always trying to get close to JW. She wanted to figure out the mystery behind him.

Even before going to son minho's house to stop JW she was shouting that not even for once she believed JW was the culprit.

Moreover JW , I feel was always trying to distract her from looking into other possibilities.

I think this was to keep her safe and he did keep her safe to a point.

But now the foundation knows her identity and they are planning to use Jaime as JW weakness.

It's a fact that JW'S weakness is Jaime. From his childhood to this point he always cared about Jaime.

I wonder what he will now, since both foundation and Jae woong is coming for her.

He is the only one capable of stopping both of them.

Otherwise, Jaime's suppressed powers have to come out, so she can fight on her own.

 

 

 

 

 

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So watched ep 11, I could only watch half of it rest I couldn't but from what I watched 

Hye won saved DW from the thugs,but the thug from the WNV injected DW with sedatives, so hye won brought him to the female forensic doctor and while they were waiting for JW to regain consciousness the female forensic doctor betrayed JW by informing his location. But instead of the cops ,the thugs came. 

Hye won threw acid on the thugs and escaped with JW.

After a while they parted, she asked him whether she can come with him and he said something I don't know what.

They sought of had a romantic interaction I think, I don't know.

Jaime went to the WNV and found the reporter also there.

She wanted to go to WNV which is on an island but due to rain both of them couldn't.

She suddenly had a flashback, in that little Jaime wanted to go back and save her other friends in the village but little JW seems to stop her. She called JW a monster( this is the flashback what we saw earlier from jae woong's perspective as he felt they abandoned him)

Little JW looked crushed when Jaime called him that.

The thug was asked to dispose something and when he opened the lid of the barrel I think he found the bodies of children.

He was disgusted and terrified, it seems like the thug never knew they were continuing the experiments.

Hye won confronted her father but I think he finally showed his real face . It's not clear what kind of conversation they had.

The female scientist is still alive, she has not aged a bit.

Seems like now she is experimenting on herself, I mean how can she not age.

Jae woong is crazy, his next target is blue house guy's child.

Son minho is going to use Jaime as JW weakness.

The next episode seems to be more crazy as jae woong is in the WNV confronting Jaime and the reporter.

Maybe this will help to release Jaime's suppressed powers.

 

 

I think all should see the next episode because according to TVN website the preview description says 

Jaime , JW and jae woong all meet at WNV town after all these years and jae woong who is angry at them for abandoning him attacks them.

 

So maybe tomorrow we will get the truth behind the incident that happened in WNV .

Jaime will probably regain her memories .

 

 

 

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So watched ep 11, I could only watch half of it rest I couldn't but from what I watched 

Hye won saved DW from the thugs,but the thug from the WNV injected DW with sedatives, so hye won brought him to the female forensic doctor and while they were waiting for JW to regain consciousness the female forensic doctor betrayed JW by informing his location. But instead of the cops ,the thugs came. 

Hye won threw acid on the thugs and escaped with JW.

After a while they parted, she asked him whether she can come with him and he said something I don't know what.

They sought of had a romantic interaction I think, I don't know.

Jaime went to the WNV and found the reporter also there.

She wanted to go to WNV which is on an island but due to rain both of them couldn't.

She suddenly had a flashback, in that little Jaime wanted to go back and save her other friends in the village but little JW seems to stop her. She called JW a monster( this is the flashback what we saw earlier from jae woong's perspective as he felt they abandoned him)

Little JW looked crushed when Jaime called him that.

The thug was asked to dispose something and when he opened the lid of the barrel I think he found the bodies of children.

He was disgusted and terrified, it seems like the thug never knew they were continuing the experiments.

Hye won confronted her father but I think he finally showed his real face . It's not clear what kind of conversation they had.

The female scientist is still alive, she has not aged a bit.

Seems like now she is experimenting on herself, I mean how can she not age.

Jae woong is crazy, his next target is blue house guy's child.

Son minho is going to use Jaime as JW weakness.

The next episode seems to be more crazy as jae woong is in the WNV confronting Jaime and the reporter.

Maybe this will help to release Jaime's suppressed powers.

 

 

I think all should see the next episode because according to TVN website the preview description says 

Jaime , JW and jae woong all meet at WNV town after all these years and jae woong who is angry at them for abandoning him attacks them.

 

So maybe tomorrow we will get the truth behind the incident that happened in WNV .

Jaime will probably regain her memories .

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the recap. Sadly this drama has very little following and audience seems to dwindle more every episode. Forums, even twitter andd IG are silent. I am also finding myself skipping some scenes esp. Hye Won's. Just want to thank everyone who's still hanging on despite the drama's lapses.

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So watched ep 11, I could only watch half of it rest I couldn't but from what I watched 

Hye won saved DW from the thugs,but the thug from the WNV injected DW with sedatives, so hye won brought him to the female forensic doctor and while they were waiting for JW to regain consciousness the female forensic doctor betrayed JW by informing his location. But instead of the cops ,the thugs came. 

Hye won threw acid on the thugs and escaped with JW.

After a while they parted, she asked him whether she can come with him and he said something I don't know what.

They sought of had a romantic interaction I think, I don't know.

Jaime went to the WNV and found the reporter also there.

She wanted to go to WNV which is on an island but due to rain both of them couldn't.

She suddenly had a flashback, in that little Jaime wanted to go back and save her other friends in the village but little JW seems to stop her. She called JW a monster( this is the flashback what we saw earlier from jae woong's perspective as he felt they abandoned him)

Little JW looked crushed when Jaime called him that.

The thug was asked to dispose something and when he opened the lid of the barrel I think he found the bodies of children.

He was disgusted and terrified, it seems like the thug never knew they were continuing the experiments.

Hye won confronted her father but I think he finally showed his real face . It's not clear what kind of conversation they had.

The female scientist is still alive, she has not aged a bit.

Seems like now she is experimenting on herself, I mean how can she not age.

Jae woong is crazy, his next target is blue house guy's child.

Son minho is going to use Jaime as JW weakness.

The next episode seems to be more crazy as jae woong is in the WNV confronting Jaime and the reporter.

Maybe this will help to release Jaime's suppressed powers.

 

 

I think all should see the next episode because according to TVN website the preview description says 

Jaime , JW and jae woong all meet at WNV town after all these years and jae woong who is angry at them for abandoning him attacks them.

 

So maybe tomorrow we will get the truth behind the incident that happened in WNV .

Jaime will probably regain her memories .

 

 

 

Finally!!!! Can't wait for tomorrow's episode!! Thanks for always giving us a recap of the episode so quickly after it airs and the preview description too:)

 

13 minutes ago, x_x___chi said:

 

Thanks for the recap. Sadly this drama has very little following and audience seems to dwindle more every episode. Forums, even twitter andd IG are silent. I am also finding myself skipping some scenes esp. Hye Won's. Just want to thank everyone who's still hanging on despite the drama's lapses.

Thanks for being here with us too! I am sure some of us are still lurking around:)

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I didn't watch the last ep, only read what you guys wrote here.

Police force are usually dumb when it is not an investigation based series but if they are dumb in a police thriller then that is only because the writing is DUMB. 

They almost have Jamie as a prop now. Stalling her and not letting her do anything of importance and on the top of that making her do dumb things is getting on my nerves, wallah. 

 

 

Edit: I like the journalist reporting from the harbor (?) and Jungwoo seeing Jamie on that frame. Now I really want to watch next ep. Makes me eager for the confrontation. Our Ramen eating Jae woong hasn't returned yet so I think he will only appear while trying to stop the evil jaewoong from killing either Jamie or Jung woo. I hope next ep will be packed but I am afraid they only have enough material for 2- 2 and a 1/2 eps now. This is only the 11th and so I am expecting them to delay things for the 15th and 16th ep. 

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You guys are right, after every episode the viewers are only decreasing.

The drama had a lot of potential, if the writer had really spend a little more time on developing the characters and avoiding the loopholes. Then we would have had a solid script and a good drama.

In today's episode Hye won quit her job after knowing her father's involvement in the foundation.

At this rate, one major character's death is unavoidable.

The possible candidates are JW( he is already dying, he has the majority in this scenario)

Jaime ( her death is unlikely as JW is ready protect her,even it means death for him)

Jae woong,chances are more,even though his other personality is doing this, still his path is wrong. Maybe at the end he will sacrifice himself, I guess that will be his redemption.

Hye won, I wouldn't have added her but maybe the writer will make her death as punishment for her father.

The thug from WNV seems to have joined hands with JW. I don't know if he is going to betray him. I hope not..

I think after ep 12, the drama will pick up pace once more.

If Jaime remembers everything, there is a good chance she will join forces with JW.

The blue house guy has arranged the military for protection for his house.

From what I know, if in a drama, they show the SWAT team or military , a major death is on it's way. 

This drama seems like a combination of voice 3, kill it, the memorist.

At least the execution could have been better.

Let's wait for ep 12 .....

 

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I think viewers probably expected a different kind of drama. When I read the summary before it came out, it gave me the impression that the detectives were going to be working on a mystery of serial killings that led back to a mass killing event from the past in a small village. What I didn’t expect is that the past incident would involve the two cops working on the case. That creates an entirely different show than what I expected. I also didn’t expect super-human stuff and human experimentation. I guess I was kind of expecting something similar to Tunnel or Signal.

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7 hours ago, celebrianna said:

I think viewers probably expected a different kind of drama. 

 

I can't really speak for others but I had an inkling from Day 1 what this show was about. I had a feeling about the crazy sci-fi angle and the potential Dark Angel, Pretender angle that was only hinted at then. I had no problems and still have none about the crazy sci-fi stuff. In fact, I'm only hanging on because of the Loganesque plot and the delight of seeing NGM with a mo sucking on lollipops.

 

For me it was clear even from the earliest episodes that there was something not quite right with the script and the pacing of the drama. But of course I had hoped that things would improve and there's the NGM factor. I wish the show was outright terrible then it would be easier to give it the flick. But it has these occasional moments of decent television and it leaves me shaking my head wondering why they can't do it much more consistently. Let's also not go into how I feel about the fillers. I want more of the crazy sci-fi and the evil Foundation but the show insists on giving me more of Hye-won giving Jung-woo long, blank stares. Here the romance plays badly as well for all kinds of reasons that I won't go into here. More importantly it's unnecessary.

 

In recent episodes, Jamie's role in the drama has been relegated to extended cameos. Why? She's supposed to be one of the three that managed to escape the clutches of Mad Village. What's the purpose Gong Hye-won? Aside from the fact that she's Mad Professor Gong's daughter. She's a totally unnecessary character except as an eye-witness.  This points to a serious weakness in character development.

 

To be frank, I don't think the problem is that we're expecting a different drama. I think what most of us are expecting is a better drama with better storytelling, better development for the women and better use of existing characters. Coherence is weak. The dialogue clunky. In other words, I want a more disciplined tighter script that doesn't resort to rehashing already known facts to fill up air time.

 

I'm disappointed because this show has most of the elements to be a decent intriguing sci-fi crime drama.

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@40somethingahjumma, I honestly prefer detective stories or mysteries when the detectives themselves are not part of the case. I was expecting a detective story and style like Signal or Tunnel where the detectives worked on discovering the truth about serial murders in the past that are now also occurring in the present. When I found out about the sci-fi part with superhuman strength and powers, I was caught off guard. I never watched The Pretender but I did watch Dark Angel but at least I knew what to expect when I began watching that show. 

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So watched ep 12, this episode had more story progress than fillers..

So, the forewarning was released, everyone saw Jaime in the background when the reporter was reporting. When I say everyone, I mean everyone.

Son minho, JW, jae woong . They all are after Jaime.

Hye won is depressed because of her dad. 

The scientist lady I think was always obsessed with JW, I don't know why. But I think she really creeps JW out.

Jaime and reporter went to WNV and Jaime seems be uncomfortable and she was remembering things bit by bit.

JW used the special team help to save blue house guy's child .

I honestly don't know why? But they saved him.

Son minho was going to use that child as bait to capture JW. But he plan was ruined.

The blue house guy eats these weird pills , is it the one to slow the process of aging, I don't know. But that pill is weird.

Anyway towards the end, hye won and the team saved the crazy evil child but both detective jang and the other specs guy had to return to police station to avoid suspicion.

JW adoptive father came to help them, so hye won took the evil child to his place. The place where he makes drugs.

While they were waiting for the evil child to wake up, hye won started digging around, I don't know why. She found JW's specs and guess what the specs is a computer, it's just not your regular specs. The Specs had all information about the foundation members. JW picked the team not just randomly it seems. Everyone is connected in this. 

One thing that surprised me was that hye won was shocked when she saw her father and her information together in that. I mean why, why is she so surprised it's not at all a surprising thing. Well it just proves again she is not that bright.

Anyway towards the end, son minho send some guys to WNV to take Jaime. The computer guy who stabbed JW at the police station was the leader of the group but he and the other guys got knocked down by jae woong.

Jae woong asked her why they left him but he knows she doesn't remember anything.

He took the pills which he used for the murders and popped it into her mouth and viola....

There, she remembers everything. She started remembering everything. 

So what happened in WNV was that JW put some kind of drug in the food prepared for the people.

All three of them did it together, to escape that place. The people started killing everyone around.

JW was the kid the bad hyung was hugging around . JW is really the monster who did it.

As Jae woong goes to kill Jaime, JW comes to save her.

And the fight starts between Jae woong and JW.

The reporter got knocked out so he won't be able to see the fight. So sad for him. It would have been interesting for him.

So according to the preview, Jaime found the monster she was looking for . They seems to have a proper reunion now.

I hope it better be proper, because i am sure JW won't make it alive. So I hope the writer makes it worth it.

And JW didn't abandon jae woong, he clearly said he will be back but little Jae woong seems to not remember that part .. Anyway this is it. 

The mystery of WNV and Jaime's memories everything is out.

Now what's left is how they will wrap this series.

Someone's death is around, but whose?

 

 

 

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If the show does not explain everything clearly from beginning to end I'll be really speechless because that is what we deserve after episodes of fillers.

 

Some things I need explanations for:

1. What exactly are the powers of the 3 kids

2. Why jungwoo can't "predict" jaewoong's face at the start

3. What exactly was WNV for? How did the kids end up in that village in the first place?

4. How female scientist not age?

5. What is in jamie's bag? Seeing her use a sling one instead of her normal bagpack just makes me even more curious what's inside. But i have little hopes of them revealing this...

 

From the looks of the preview, seems like they are gonna really wrap up WNV and our trio quickly and zoom right back to the war against the foundation which is less than spectacular and interesting to me:")

 

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2 hours ago, Soar Wi said:

Some things I need explanations for:

1. What exactly are the powers of the 3 kids

2. Why jungwoo can't "predict" jaewoong's face at the start

3. What exactly was WNV for? How did the kids end up in that village in the first place?

4. How female scientist not age?

5. What is in jamie's bag? Seeing her use a sling one instead of her normal bagpack just makes me even more curious what's inside. But i have little hopes of them revealing this...

 

They probably won't explain it like we want to ...

1) At this point they are telling Jaime is just human. She doesn't have any super powers but she has an high IQ. 

Or else we will get to see her powers later in the episodes as she now finally remembers everything.

2) I couldn't figure that out but I think Maybe it was because he was just more close to Jaime. 

Or he couldn't get it because of Jae woong's DID. They really can't seem to connect with eachother due to this.

3) They explained this earlier in the episodes, WNV was started as an orphanage but just not you regular orphanage. Rather than just creating a normal orphanage, a village was created and families were asked to take care of children, so they wouldn't feel as orphans.

This was done with govt funding.

You can just check that episode, I think ep 3.

4) she is certainly using the formula that JW gave which stops aging and provides immortality. Anyway she is a test subject herself. Everything about her creeps me out.

5) I personally think,since she has OCD and is a germaphobe, she mainly carries wet wipes, sanitizer and all in that bag. That's it . people with germaphobia usually carries these stuffs with them.

 

Now I am thinking what if WNV was just you regular orphanage then JW and Jaime would have been your regular kdrama childhood soulmates.

According to the preview it seems like JW still wants Jaime to go back to US , as we know she won't.

Now it's her turn to make decisions, whether to join forces with JW or not.

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