celebrianna Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 40 minutes ago, angelwingssf said: From the preview - looks like JH is leaving and going somewhere and saying that they will meet again. May be not a happy ending, but a look towards a happy one. But I see the new ring on JS finger. Don't know what that means. Yes, I saw that too in the preview and I’m hoping it’s misleading. Anyway, I wish Ji Soo won’t do anything with the proposal chaebol wife offered her. I believe JH will give up on the company anyway but he might be trying to do something with the labor unions first. It would be interesting if the labor union could purchase shares in the company but I don’t think they have funding and also if there are restrictions on that kind of purchases for them. However, it would have been nice if the employees can earn shares in the company thereby correcting or mitigating the continuous labor violations that the company has been engaging in for decades. I also want the chaebol family’s control over the company to lessen. Regarding the obsessive ex, I’m glad he will be subpoenaed in the old man’s case. Ji Soo explained all the connections in JH’s case and the police checked the call history and confirmed that the ex spoke to the old man two hours before the incident. Hopefully a thorough investigation of the case will reveal him on CCTV. The old man also confessed that the ex told him where to find JH. I don’t expect the ex to serve time but it would be a fitting punishment if he’s disbarred for doing such an unethical thing. Now the old man might just have to serve time in prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponderings Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just a quick drop in after watching the subs. I will definitely come back to read through comments. My favorite scene today was between JS and JH's mother. I love what JH's mother said: People think the wicked and violent are moving the world, but it's actually the kind people who are turning the world around. That's what I believe. This belief brings me another perspective on the protests in USA. Things are changing for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shazbinjin Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just watched ep 15! Sooo what are your prediction for the finale, chingus? It seemed like they still have a lot to deal with if they want to wrap up all the loose ends nicely... I for one really hope that JS doesn’t do anything stupid to stop the company takeover without consulting JH first, although it did seem like she discussed it with JH in the preview (the part where she says she wants him to change). At the moment it seems like the only realistic way to make SK leave JH though, but maybe somehow she could be convinced to go forward with the divorce after the talk with JH as shown in the preview? Also hoping that they resolve the situation with the boys well... YM and JH’s son are definitely the biggest “casualties” of the whole adult drama so I really hope they would handle this part of the story wisely and with sensitivity... oh and send YM back to school please!!!! It really aggravates me how all the adults are just somehow okay with having him dropout without finding him a better solution.. poor child. As for adult JS and JH... do you think there would be a happy ending for these two? Preview seems to be hinting at a hopeful future for them but tbh if it’s nothing conclusive I’m gonna sue writernim for putting us through emotional distress for 16 depressing, long episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneHeart Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Final episode! Happy ending please!! Can somebody pm me the link to watch ? The usual link not working . Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelwingssf Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, AnneHeart said: Final episode! Happy ending please!! Can somebody pm me the link to watch ? The usual link not working . Thanks! Did you find a link? Mine isn't working today. If yours is, can you DM me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnneHeart Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, angelwingssf said: Did you find a link? Mine isn't working today. If yours is, can you DM me. Thanks! Nope. Sigh.. Guess we have to wait until later when the raw comes out. Now I'm just relying on twitter and ig for #화양연화 clips/screencaps. Urgh~ I'm not that patient. I hope they give us satisfying ending, by that I mean kisses. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 hours ago, celebrianna said: I wish Ji Soo won’t do anything with the proposal chaebol wife offered her. I believe JH will give up on the company anyway but he might be trying to do something with the labor unions first. JS has seen the sort of childish shenanigans that SK gets up to, so I think she probably saw through this ruse. SK's plotting has gotten weaker and weaker. We saw that when she told blatant lies about JS to JH and he didn't believe her for one moment. Now she has tried the same strategy with JS--I don't think it will work with her either. I also believe that JH intends to give up the company. Remember how he said that he would have lots more time to spend with his son? And we also saw the two of them fishing in the preview. 10 hours ago, celebrianna said: Regarding the obsessive ex, I’m glad he will be subpoenaed in the old man’s case. Ji Soo explained all the connections in JH’s case and the police checked the call history and confirmed that the ex spoke to the old man two hours before the incident. That made me very happy. I also liked that it was clear that JS did not do this in a vengeful way but as a means of getting at the truth to help the old man. 9 hours ago, ponderings said: My favorite scene today was between JS and JH's mother. I love what JH's mother said: People think the wicked and violent are moving the world, but it's actually the kind people who are turning the world around. That's what I believe. I loved that, too. Just my thinking: I believe that we have to learn from the past but we need to remember that we don't live in it. It is in the present time that there is power that can be used for good. We have to take responsibility for our actions today; every kindness makes a difference. And we have to walk forward confidently to the future. 3 hours ago, shazbinjin said: Also hoping that they resolve the situation with the boys well... YM and JH’s son are definitely the biggest “casualties” of the whole adult drama so I really hope they would handle this part of the story wisely and with sensitivity This is surely an important point, and I think the drama should have addressed this earlier. In fact, I believe that perhaps it was meant to be addressed when we saw JH's son express a glimmer of understanding for YM. But I think we may have lost some scenes along the way when there began to be a huge swell of fan interest for the younger JS and JH--some of the scenes that we have had with them have seemed like filler, and I have suspected that this took some time away from present-day action. Because of the sons, I wonder if JS and JH will have to wait to be together. And I have wondered before if it might be possible that JH would have to do jail time. I hope not. 3 hours ago, shazbinjin said: As for adult JS and JH... do you think there would be a happy ending for these two? Yes. But.....when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelwingssf Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 here are some clips which were uploaded. The kiss scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Yohanes Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Its finally the end guys !! See you on next drama Hopefully you guys watch the next tvn drama on this slot too ( its okay not to be okay ) see you on the thread there too if you guys watching it too. What a journey indeed. Need sub for the full opinion but i believe it is happy ending right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Looks like the raw version has been posted. I'm gonna go see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celebrianna Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just finished watching the raw episode on Viki and it looks like JH and JS showed mercy to her obsessive ex. I’m just guessing but the way he looked ashamed and contrite during his conversation with the detective seem to suggest that something happened that exonerated him when we all know he knows he’s guilty of aiding and abetting a crime. I didn’t really see Youngmin after his talk with his father (did you guys?) so I’m wondering who he is living with. Maybe the conversations will enlighten us but as I only know a little Korean I have to wait for subs. I did see Jun Seo with his mother though. It looks like they were traveling together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtysvn37 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I have to wait until tomorrow to watch it with subs. Please tell me we have a happy ending huhu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Thirtysvn37 said: I have to wait until tomorrow to watch it with subs. Please tell me we have a happy ending huhu Happy ending. JH and JS together again at the house with the persimmon tree. And also a meeting of all four leads. ...........So I watched most of the raw (admittedly I skipped through because I just wanted to know the basics), and it seemed good that they addressed the issues of the two fathers and their sons. It was good to see JS's ex appearing contrite and embarrassed. It was also good to see that JH seems to have some new enterprise and has left the company--not sure what happened with the big meeting, though. One small item: A couple of times in this drama, there has been evocative music playing very, very, very quietly in the background (I'm wondering if it was that quiet so that they could avoid paying copyright fees ). In this episode while JS is confronting her ex at the cafe, you can just barely hear Sara McLachlan's Angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelwingssf Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Will have to wait for the subs. You guys were right. Everyone showed some kind of remorse and JH quit HYsung group and I think they appointed a director/ chairman. YM is waiting for his father who comes late to pick him up and apologizes to him. Later YM asks why he got divorced and his father says that he was not confident to be loved or someone would really love him. Shows how difficult his life must have been with his hateful / disciplinarian mother. JH and JS get together and looks like JH's son went abroad with his mother. IT was nice to JH leading a group of new (probably) entreprenuers in a group meeting. Looked like a library. The only person who did not end up being nice was the chariman. He was brushing his teeth and a feather falls on him and he throws it away and then it lands on JS who is sitting outside. Did she come with JH to see the chairman? Anyway, just rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shazbinjin Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Thanks everyone for the updates! Relieved to hear it has a happy ending (or at least, as happy as possible in those circumstances?). Looking forward to watching it with subs tomorrow. Really enjoyed lurking here and reading all your discussions too! <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistle Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, angelwingssf said: IT was nice to JH leading a group of new (probably) entreprenuers in a group meeting. Looked like a library. It reminded me of all the books that he had kept in those two huge rooms of books that he had when he was married to SK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelwingssf Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, thistle said: It reminded me of all the books that he had kept in those two huge rooms of books that he had when he was married to SK. Looks like it were the same books. Wonder if they are living in the same house. I know the door to JS house had something like music school or something. Also, JS is going to college? Finishing up since someone in one the previous episodes mentioned that she did not have a degree - was unable to finish since life turned upside down in an instant on her birthday when her mother and sister died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haha1999 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, angelwingssf said: Looks like it were the same books. Wonder if they are living in the same house. I know the door to JS house had something like music school or something. Also, JS is going to college? Finishing up since someone in one the previous episodes mentioned that she did not have a degree - was unable to finish since life turned upside down in an instant on her birthday when her mother and sister died. Nice catch on that, finally she is doing something for herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp23 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I enjoyed reading everyone's comments and thanks to those that provided GIFs. I enjoyed this drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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