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1 hour ago, airgelaal said:

I never said, that she is responsible.  I can understand choice, that she made 20 years ago. But I think, JH wished she never made it. Still, she couldn't predict future. 

But I can't understand her choice now. Because now she already knows what happen during that 20 years. No one happy now. Why she does she think, that her sacrifice now is what JH need the most?

What I want to say, that she is responsible for her own happiness. JH or her son want her to be happy. They want to see her been happy. More sacrifices she will make, more unhappy they will be. But she still that 20 years old girl, who think, that she don`t deserve to be happy.

I think JS does not want any harm to come to JH through her. JH is going through a very public investigation with the prosecution which most likely casts him in a negative light in society. Most people will probably believe JH is guilty especially because as JH observed, the fact that he tried to negotiate with the workers was completely eliminated from the case. So it makes him unsympathetic in the eyes of the public. Notice also that Ji Soo was watching the public trials on her tv. To have the video released where she “initiated” the kiss with JH surely would not help his situation especially in a place like SK and she probably realizes that. So in the only way she knows how, she chose to protect JH.

 

To me what needs to happen now is JH should step up to help and protect JS in a solid way. He doesn’t have to get directly involved but he has friends who are lawyers, I’m sure. They may know how to work the law better than her dummy ex-husband whom I understand took a while to pass the bar exam.

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19 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

So in the only way she knows how, she chose to protect JH.

 

 

I understand this. But I tried to see the whole story from JH perspective. 20 years ago he became a person, who lost his love and dream. She decided to protect him, but may be JH would prefer to go to jail then to lost her. Even without JS he could end up in jail. It's the choice he made himself when he decided to fight against injustice. I think for a man it's not easy to realize that his beloved woman decided to sacrifice herself just for him to be safe. And not once, but twice. She had another choice. Just ask JH what he wants. he had and has a right to know whats going on.

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46 minutes ago, airgelaal said:

 

I understand this. But I tried to see the whole story from JH perspective. 20 years ago he became a person, who lost his love and dream. She decided to protect him, but may be JH would prefer to go to jail then to lost her. Even without JS he could end up in jail. It's the choice he made himself when he decided to fight against injustice. I think for a man it's not easy to realize that his beloved woman decided to sacrifice herself just for him to be safe. And not once, but twice. She had another choice. Just ask JH what he wants. he had and has a right to know whats going on.

Yes, that’s probably his perspective but JS is a woman who also wants to protect the person she loves. JH will undoubtedly find out that she’s sacrificing herself for him and that’s why I think the ball is in his court now. He needs to act to prevent or rectify this situation. Hey, if they have to dig up lots of dirt on her ex husband and his mother, even better. Bullies think they have all the power when in fact there’s always somebody out there who has more power than them.
 

Sadly though, I would temper my expectations on this because this is not normally a plot that is employed in Kdrama shows. Kdrama shows tend to grind the powerless to the ground for 15 episodes and in the last episode deliver some lame victory to the powerless. :sweatingbullets: By that standard, I’m not sure how much suffering and humiliation Ji Soo needs to endure before she sees a light at the end of a tunnel.

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8 hours ago, airgelaal said:

 

I understand this. But I tried to see the whole story from JH perspective. 20 years ago he became a person, who lost his love and dream. She decided to protect him, but may be JH would prefer to go to jail then to lost her. Even without JS he could end up in jail. It's the choice he made himself when he decided to fight against injustice. I think for a man it's not easy to realize that his beloved woman decided to sacrifice herself just for him to be safe. And not once, but twice. She had another choice. Just ask JH what he wants. he had and has a right to know whats going on.

  

character wise...I am figuring she has some conflict 

she doesnt accepts him as he is now... she tells him he is in a way her enemy so they cant and are not open with each other yet ....on the other hand she feels some responsibility for him  as in both times he was targeted because of her ........

a much simpler reason though ... quiet clearly

thats how she  expresses her love 

... she protects him and he wants to take care of her 

didnt she say... love for me is not making the beloved cry 

 

.......

 

 

 

drama wise 

this drama has an  obsession with making parallels between past and present 

the present being the mirror of the past to come full circle ...this is the drama universe here 

everything has to happen again in some way or other 

 

 

still there is something here...if JH goes down she will go down with him ... that will ruin his son life and reputation ...I dont think its also good for his reputation either as a lawyer .. they love their scandals in korea ....so was he even really making a real threat ?

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On 5/14/2020 at 6:17 PM, enchantedyears said:

Now WMLB has double the trouble because each FL and ML have their own kid to deal with. Oh God, why do I have to like dramas where extramarital affairs and kids are involved... :sweatingbullets::lol:

 

So several dramas ( ie: Sky Castle,  Nobody Knows,  TWOM) we've seen where children are caught in between complicated adult relationships and they are the ones left to suffer. Ahh these drama writers giving us something to ponder 

 

 

On 5/14/2020 at 7:11 PM, celebrianna said:

However, I don’t know if the writer will give us a happy ending for our star crossed lovers. I can only hope now. At minimum, I want Ji Soo to have her freedom to live as she wishes while maintaining sole custody of her son. 

JS and JH shou;d be together. However, it  willl not feel like a win-win situation. JH is married and has a Joon Seo who's classmate with Young Min .. and if Joon Seo finds out that his father is seeing and in love and wants to be with JH.. then that will trigger more  Joon Seo's emotions ( it's his dad after all) and It's also the same for Young Min. ... though  I know he said once he's nevious of Joon Seon having JH as dad. But then again... this is romance drama. It's not like main story line is about family it's a romance... reunited love but with two kids involve. two kids who know each other and two kids who are at odds with each other.. lets see what writer will come up.

 

On 5/14/2020 at 9:56 PM, airgelaal said:

But I can't understand her choice now. Because now she already knows what happen during that 20 years. No one happy now. Why she does she think, that her sacrifice now is what JH need the most?

She doesn't want to subject JH for futher failure. He's being investigate, she read articles already. If she's being scrutinized, the past may surface. Plus what woulf Young Min think. Her son.. I feel sad for him the most, but.. how will she explain  to him about first love , 25 year love spanning two decades. Sorry not sure if it make sense but, the more sher's involve in JH the more he will fail.

 

23 hours ago, celebrianna said:

Sadly though, I would temper my expectations on this because this is not normally a plot that is employed in Kdrama shows. Kdrama shows tend to grind the powerless to the ground for 15 episodes and in the last episode deliver some lame victory to the powerless

Yeah. We watch  many kdramas we're used  good15 episodes but the last episode it  deflates expectation. This is not preproduced they do live shoot.. so lets see. Correct me if I'm wrong okay but yeah live shoot...so it means they write thhe script or can change.

 

This is melodrama romance. We've seen how they met how they fell in love, the sarcifice that each of them made. They seperated, but got reunited.  But their status  has now change. JS has a son. JS also has a son. The son's know each other.  It's JH who's got money and power, whereas JS works with 3 jobs ( grocery -before she was dismissed,  piano tutor, then she plays piano in the hotel).  Both have been in jail due to experiencing demoralizing siuations. Viewers expecting at the end, JH and JS will be together. 

 

However children are involve and you want to balance  that with the outcome of the romance and being together. If there no kids involve....I'll be the moon they will end up together. Well what do you guys think?

 

Lets enjoy this drama we have good solid acting from the main cast.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@jongski, yes children are involved but unless they’re seriously abused, i think children are resilient people and given time they will accept a new family situation when handled with patience and care. 

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On 5/14/2020 at 5:16 AM, Tango27 said:

I was a bullied child in all of my school duration...surely my parents are not responsible for that ! thats victim blaming... bullying happens cause bullies exist

also you seem to ignore that the life changing events in both their lives were not shown yet...the accident to her family and we dont know what happened so he changed  

 

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he himself says he felt was copying student protests on the 80s .... or his rebel image back then of river phoenix.........he has noble intentions but he was a rebel without a cause  .....

 

 

The only bully-free school that exists today is....the school of the Deaf and the Blind.

Bullying is the nature of the beast....or someone who has the power over another...i.e. in size, looks, color, wealth and physical ability. It happens to people, animals, birds, insects, sea creatures...and all living things.

 

Same with a one-sided marriage....he/she who has power... dominates; whether it is consciously or unconsciously. Worst if the man is a beast...who sinks deeper and deeper into insecurity, inadequacy, or deficiency of whatever.

 

As to being a rebel.... it is the biggest fraud (a hoax)... or fabricated noble intentions for the sake of equality, fairness, justice, political correctness and all that jazz. Look at ex-rebels Marx, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etal... on Communism, Marxism, Socialism and their idea of Utopia which never happened, and where they eventually became the dictator and masterbully. Nothing but a self-serving-hypocritic-oath-of-activism to say the least. Apologize to those  offended by this point of view.

 

Anyway, so far it is still about the powerful... imposing their determined will over another, who is weak.  But I am still looking forward to how love blooms in the face adversity. Just love Lee Bo Young's ability and delivery of this human experience, like in her other drama Mother.   

 

 

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3 hours ago, RWinger47 said:

 

The only bully-free school that exists today is....the school of the Deaf and the Blind.

Bullying is the nature of the beast....or someone who has the power over another...i.e. in size, looks, color, wealth and physical ability. It happens to people, animals, birds, insects, sea creatures...and all living things.

 

Same with a one-sided marriage....he/she who has power... dominates; whether it is consciously or unconsciously. Worst if the man is a beast...who sinks deeper and deeper into insecurity, inadequacy, or deficiency of whatever.

 

As to being a rebel.... it is the biggest fraud (a hoax)... or fabricated noble intentions for the sake of equality, fairness, justice, political correctness and all that jazz. Look at ex-rebels Marx, Stalin, Mao, Castro, etal... on Communism, Marxism, Socialism and their idea of Utopia which never happened, and where they eventually became the dictator and masterbully. Nothing but a self-serving-hypocritic-oath-of-activism to say the least. Apologize to those  offended by this point of view.

 

Anyway, so far it is still about the powerful... imposing their determined will over another, who is weak.  But I am still looking forward to how love blooms in the face adversity. Just love Lee Bo Young's ability and delivery of this human experience, like in her other drama Mother.   

 

 

 

bullying happens cause there are no laws to protect the powerless individuale against the bullies .its a failure of the system and the society  , you are asked to fight your own way alone in your young years and if you were bullied it must be somehow your fault   ... I was not bullied by one person it was always a whole gang   and they were not superior in any way .. they were just vindictive and poisonous and destructive  and they must have came of similar environments .... use of power that in its reality exhibition of weakness , cowardice  and insecurity ...same thing in marriage or any situation where power is taken or given .... 

 

concerning your view on activism...... on one hand its true that ideologies are usually frauds that make use of youth to acquire power and become tyrants ...... but this is one thing and protesting and revolution against injustice is another , even if the change will never be ... its the one weapon of the powerless masses .... 

 

its for JH to find if there is cause that is worth it..

 

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2 hours ago, triplem said:

@thistle what video is it ? Not allowed in my region :unsure:

 

Sorry.  Seems the video has been removed.  It was IU's Eight with scenes from WMLB.

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@triplem, I’m hoping JH will take expose and takedown his FIL. Even if he had other plans before he met JS again, somehow I believe she and her situation will remind him that the powerless needs someone to fight for them too. 

 

@thistle, sorry we missed that video. I’ve never heard a song by IU that I didn’t like. There’s a beautiful duet of hers called My First Love that was used in the weekend Tailor Shop drama for the OTP. Still love hearing that song.

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Ep. 7 Quick Recap. I'm just gonna touch on the plot very briefly off the top of my head.

 

1995

Jaehyun's imprisoned for a short time. Upon his release, he finds out from Dongjin that Jisoo is going to study abroad. JS' dad wants her to go to Frankfurt because he believes in the saying "Out of sight, out of mind" and it's also good for her classical piano studies. At the airport, JS' mom and sister send her off. JS sister accidentally blurted out it's some kind of a matchmaking in disguise since JS is going to live with her relatives (I might be wrong here). JH runs to the airport and finally meets JS who decides to leave the departure hall. She's not flying.

 

JS and JH take a train to Gangchon, an area in the countryside where JH knows a sunbae who rents out an accommodation. On the train, JS says she's going to marry JH. Upon their arrival, they take a walk and JS writes "Jaehyun♥Jisoo for a million years. 1995.5.12" on the wall. At night, they sit outside to see the stars and Jaehyun admits he feels sorry for her because he loves her. They end up sleeping together.

 

 

2020

Sehun gets excited when Jisoo says she's going to come back to him. There's a talk about reuniting. Sehun goes on a house-viewing with Youngmin and YM sends JS a video of the house saying that it's the house they're going to live in. JS obviously is not fully on-board with this and gets distracted a lot because she keeps thinking of JH. JS goes to see Youngwoo and he finally confesses his feelings for her. YW is also hurt that JS decides to get back together with Sehun. Dongjin meets JS for a cup of coffee and he says he wants to help with her custody issues. She rejects the offer because there's no need for it. In the process of forgetting JH, JS donates the bike and guitar from JH.

 

Seokyung remembers the time when she fell for Jaehyun back in 2000. At the time, both are Hyung Sung Group employees. They go on a site visit and JH wants to take the subway when SK insists they take the car. They end up taking the subway where SK loses one of her shoes. Jaehyun goes back to find her shoe and gets his face dirty. SK sees him like a knight in shining armor. During company dinner, JH & SK get drunk and outside they admit they've lost something: JH lost a person whereas SK lost her mother.

 

In the present, JH finds out about the kissing video and who leaked it (SK). He makes a call to JS saying he wants to meet her but she can't because she's far away. JH finds out where she is when he hears a train announcement that says Gangchon on the background. JS takes one last walk in Gangchon and goes back to the same wall she wrote on back then. The writing is still there. While waiting for the train back to Seoul, JH shows up on the train platform and JS says her final goodbye to him (like in the preview). She hops on the train, leaving JH alone in Gangchon. JH goes to the wall again, this time he adds something underneath, "Hwayang Yeonhwa* for a million years". JH meets SH, he tells him to upload the video and he doesn't care if it'll affect his investigation.

 

*Hwayang Yeonhwa refers to both the drama title and Chinese characters "花樣年華" which literally means flower-like life/glorious years. Google it up to see the interpretations.

 

 

That's all I can remember haha sorry if I missed anything!

 

 

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Amidst his risky position as a whistleblower, Jaehyun stands up against Sehun for the sake of Jisoo. Motivated by the way Jaehyun and Jisoo would do things for each other's sake, Seokyung and Sehun put Jaehyun and Jisoo in an even more difficult situation. Just like what Jaehyun does for her, Jisoo herself tries to be Jaehyun's Asillie (t/n: I think they meant Achilles? Lol nope according to Korean comments it's for "asylee"). Meanwhile, in 1995, Jaehyun sneaks into a cathedral while trying to escape. In a moment of desperation during a long chase, someone's warm hand leads Jaehyun.

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@enchantedyears @triplem many thanks for the recap. I’m glad to hear Young Min is not on board with his mother marrying his “no good” father. I still stand by my point that somebody needs to save Ji Soo from herself. She’s so accustomed to choosing a dark path. She’s probably convinced that as long as she alone suffers it does not matter because those she love will be safe/happy. However, this is not the case in reality for those she love. Neither Young Min nor JH plus her friends want to see her choose this path again.

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I saw the scene where Jae Hyun went to visit the ex who was sitting all smug and his body language was like that of a king sitting on his throne. I suppose he thought that Jae Hyun would tremble before him. I love when the smug expression dissipated after he heard Jae Hyun’s last words before the episode ended. I’m sure he won’t be going away any time soon but I hope at least he lost this round good and proper.

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@triplem thank you for recapping, too! :heart:

 

@celebrianna you're welcome :) It's clear that YM looks hesitant when he's house-viewing with SH. Even he talks to his grandma very obediently as if he's scared of her. I'm not into all of this...

 

@jongski I kinda wish WMLB would end like On the Way to the Airport where the kid accepts the separation and thinks no matter where their parents are, they believe the parents will still work as hard to provide for them, they'll still love them and live happily. If the writer ends it like TWOTM... I have no words lol it's too much and too bleak

 

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Ahh cute!! Turns out LBY and LTS worked together back in 2011!

 

 

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