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27 minutes ago, bedifferent said:

You have a point here.  Kim Han Young could be the time traveler from the future, whether he is a legal or illegal immigrant is unclear.  He must have come back for a greater purpose other than to repeat his life again.  He's already an old man in 2020 so it doesn't make sense why he chose to return to this timeline and not earlier.  However, he is around in 2020 as a board member/investor? at the time that Quantum and Time takes off as an IPO.  He's the one to watch!

 

Many new comments poped on packmule blog (bitcshoverdrama), hard to track all and copy-paste.

I do it for this :

We have : Control bureau have several teams. Here team °7.

I suppose other teams work in others times than 2020. Why not ? So we could have : rich man is young in the future. He come back at 1970, then he's old in 2020. But maybe timetravel work only for 2020 ?

 

I spoted that, episode 2 :

40:00, after the result of the DNA test, the psychiatrist and the manager look at each other strangely.
Their expression says "Damn, he's finding out the truth".

Did I watched wrong ?

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JTBC Drama Sisyphus: The Myth Network: JTBC Genre: Action, Mystery, Sci-Fi Episodes: 16 Airdate: February 17th, 2021 - Airtime: Wed & Thu @ 21:00 KST Write

Whoa...we’re 2 eps in and we’re already solving it all.   Go us!  

@nrllee @bedifferent @Sleepy Owl   http://m.slist.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=228384   Found this while browsing twitter. Read it with Google translate. At the last the producti

59 minutes ago, KY L said:

I agree some aspects of the drama that we expected to be rooted in reality come off as unrealistic. I understand the criticism. The editing is a bit off at times and degrades the show as cliche or cartoonish. The plane scene is a ploy to add some excitement and show off Tae Sul's genius. It's weird, but very entertaining. So I don't mind it. The DNA from ash scene is more questionable.

 

Many flaws/unrealistic stuff pointed out a bit everywhere on internet wasn't. A work of debunking was done here. About plane scene, DNA, drone, etc. I suppose some people don't like the drama, and it's legitimate, it's a bit much about action-blockbuster kind of content, and not looking like moderate drama. It's more the way things are shown than things themselves. As an example, the plane scene is more an intelligent one, with a single threat and a path to solve it, using thinking, many logical steps, and stuff looking real. Very good construction and chronology, no detail miss, and some investigation about real content. If you watch James Bond "The Living Daylights", here you get an amazing plane scene too. Of different kind. No much thinking, more unrealistic, but also far more nervous. The scene accumulate 3 different big threats one after the other, then all both. It's crazy, with a climax with a fight in the open air. About a SF drama, I still prefer the "thinking" solution chosen here with solid bases and "make it as spectacular as we can", than the "pure spectacular" one.

 

Nitpicking : sometimes, people need to comfort their opinion and looking for additional reasons, when it's not necessary. And they spot wrong ones, want to get flaws when there isn't. As to say "it's not me not liking the drama", but "it's the drama is bad". Ok, people can do that, but may regret it after that when they understand they are wrong. I know it because I already did this. And it's a bit sad, if they wasted and spoiled a essential drama for themselves because this. If you don't like something... be sure why. ;-)

 

I would rather mention the scene episode 2 : house trap explosion. Hero doing things at the speed of light. This is too much for some people, for good reason. But I accept that because I use to watch a lot of action movie of all kind. Like the James Bond movie I cited. Tropes and explosion are nice, easy to watch. And what to do about the script ? You can't let things happens without the hero trying something ! Image the scene, the hero go out of the house. "Ok, you got me, kill me now.". And what could do the hero trapped in a house, without weapons or ability to use it, with high IQ, otherly than a tech trap ? Let's remove that... People will be unhappy too. :sweatingbullets:

Now, we can propose something else, that I think could be nice : bodyguard rush into the house with the car ! Brooooom, it's spectacular, lot of things destroyed. He save the hero, then, car chase, then hero and bodyguard lose the chase, hero is captured. It's a two blade solution. The bodyguard do all the job. So... This hero is so useless ? Damn-it! People unhappy again. Everywhere on the internet : "the hero is an useless lame and weak character !!" or "Oh, this hero is supposed to be high IQ, and he don't even try something in the house, with all the tech device into it ?". AH AH. :lol:

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14 hours ago, bedifferent said:

@taeunfightinggood to see you, post your thoughts when you get a chance LOL

 

@bedifferent I watched both episodes back-to-back. Overall, I thought it was pretty good, but I’m somewhat confused with what’s going on and my mind is filled with many questions. LOL. I’ve only read a handful of comments so far. I definitely need to back-read.

 

Does it seem that Tae Sul’s brother is actually alive or at least still present through time travel?

 

The message on the wall of Tae Sul’s house was a bit strange. Why did it need to be covered by the artwork? Nothing else seemed out of place to Tae Sul due to the break-in, except he noticed that the artwork (which he had intentionally hung upside down) was hung right-side up. I can’t decide if the person who wrote the message does not want Tae Sul to look for brother or actually wants him to look for him.

 

Who was doing the investigation at the shed? What is the significance of the following newspaper clippings found there?

  • What Model Plane Did He Ride?
  • Fund Manager, Kim Dong Hyeon
  • Deputy President, Yoo Eun Ji
  • Han Tae Sul Discharged from Hospital

On the Quantum & Time Conference 2020 brochure, why was the print “Han Tae Sul, Quantum & Time CEO” marked with a red “X”? Seo Hae mentioned that if Tae Sul opened the suitcase, “they” will kill him so she needs to go to Busan. Is it related?

 

Also, at the shed, Tae Sul had a hallucination of Tae San and he said, “What took you so long?” What did he mean by that? Was it just a metaphor that Tae Sul is finally asking questions and searching for answers?

 

It sounded like Pres. Park (Sung Dong Il) and Tae San were trying to make some kind of deal. He was supposed to give the key to the safe to Park, but in exchange for what? Tae Sul’s life? I can’t wait to know what is in the safe and why Park wants it so bad. It seems it has to do with the ability to time travel. Does it to allow it, but also could stop it?

 

I liked the scene of Tae Sul and Seo Hae walking across from each other on the opposite sides of the train platforms. It left me curious about how the nature of their relationship will be gradually revealed, especially after the seeing their wedding photo. So far, I feel that we really got to know Tae Sul so I am looking forward to more of Seo Hae’s backstory and the connection between Tae Sul and her mother.

 

@nrllee Hi! We have time travelers. Re-do. Loop. I’m getting some 365: Repeat the Year feels all over again!

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@nrllee @bedifferent @Sleepy Owl

 

http://m.slist.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=228384

 

Found this while browsing twitter. Read it with Google translate. At the last the production crew said that "it will be much easier to interpret if the reasoning is based on the fact that Seo Hae and Tae Sul are in the continuous cycle of sisyphus ". 

That means one of my assumption was correct that the loop is already going on. We don't know what's the starting point of the loop. That is something to look forward in the upcoming episodes. 

Also in ep 1, I guess we saw Tae sul got a letter from a kid in elementary? school stating that she wants to marry him. I guess that she is Seo Hae. If it is then there are two Seo Hae's: one from future and the present one. I am curious how sisyphus will handle the concept..

 

I also think that the person who broke into Tae sul's penthouse is he himself. I mean his future self. On that basis if I have to make another assumption then the future Tae Sul want the events to happen the same way as it always had happened in earlier cycles so that the present Tae sul can become the way the future Tae Sul is..

 

 

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7 minutes ago, taeunfighting said:

The message on the wall of Tae Sul’s house was a bit strange. Why did it need to be covered by the artwork? Nothing else seemed out of place to Tae Sul due to the break-in, except he noticed that the artwork (which he had intentionally hung upside down) was hung right-side up. I can’t decide if the person who wrote the message does not want Tae Sul to look for brother or actually wants him to look for him.

 

@nrllee Hi! We have time travelers. Re-do. Loop. I’m getting some 365: Repeat the Year feels all over again!

 

Only Tae Sul could notice the artwork and the pressurized paintcan.

SO, it mean one thing.

......

..... TADAAAAAA......

 

Spoiler

Tae Sul writed the message !!!!

:dizzy:

Plot twist!

 

365 was great. ;)

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1 hour ago, pompyavi said:

That means one of my assumption was correct that the loop is already going on. We don't know what's the starting point of the loop. That is something to look forward in the upcoming episodes. 

 

 

I had alreaady assumed that there is a loop happening already, and the fact that Seo Hae wanted to stop Tae Sul from opening the bag was mainly because she wanted to break the cycle here. 

 

1 hour ago, pompyavi said:

I also think that the person who broke into Tae sul's penthouse is he himself. I mean his future self. On that basis if I have to make another assumption then the future Tae Sul want the events to happen the same way as it always had happened in earlier cycles so that the present Tae sul can become the way the future Tae Sul is..

 

 

It is more than possible that Tae Sul is the guy who broke in, but he wants it all to happen or does he want to stop it all given the warning he gave? The fact that it was done behind the painting and hung upside down also seems to be so that only Tae Sul would be the one to notice the change in it. 

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2 minutes ago, Sleepy Owl said:

It is more than possible that Tae Sul is the guy who broke in, but he wants it all to happen or does he want to stop it all given the warning he gave? The fact that it was done behind the painting and hung upside down also seems to be so that only Tae Sul would be the one to notice the change in it.

That warning made him more determined to find out what happened to his brother. If whatever I guessed is correct then it is definitely future Tae Sul is setting up the path for his past self. 

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@wenchanteurAhhha, the teams work in different years... is this why CB guy said

What's important isn't "where" they are coming from.

It's WHEN (what year) the immigrants downloaded into?? :lol:

 

You're right, the old man could have been downloaded a while back before we see him in 2020.

 

3 hours ago, taeunfighting said:

Does it seem that Tae Sul’s brother is actually alive or at least still present through time travel?

 

Who was doing the investigation at the shed? What is the significance of the following newspaper clippings found there?

  • What Model Plane Did He Ride?
  • Fund Manager, Kim Dong Hyeon
  • Deputy President, Yoo Eun Ji
  • Han Tae Sul Discharged from Hospital

On the Quantum & Time Conference 2020 brochure, why was the print “Han Tae Sul, Quantum & Time CEO” marked with a red “X”? Seo Hae mentioned that if Tae Sul opened the suitcase, “they” will kill him so she needs to go to Busan. Is it related?

 

Also, at the shed, Tae Sul had a hallucination of Tae San and he said, “What took you so long?” What did he mean by that? Was it just a metaphor that Tae Sul is finally asking questions and searching for answers?

 

It sounded like Pres. Park (Sung Dong Il) and Tae San were trying to make some kind of deal. He was supposed to give the key to the safe to Park, but in exchange for what? Tae Sul’s life? I can’t wait to know what is in the safe and why Park wants it so bad. It seems it has to do with the ability to time travel. Does it to allow it, but also could stop it?

Yay,you caught up.  Yeah, we have redo, redux, rewind... all kinds of time bending events here in this drama.  We need all the participation and brain cells we can get so lurkers please unlurk and post your theories! LOL

 

Your questions are my questions LOL

 

From the preview, Tsan is alive in 2020 and he is still traveling in time. Two people know the code to the shed, it was unlocked.  I think it could either be future TS or TSan who collected the clippings and marked them.  The content of the safe... it has to be valuable in the future for the smuggling business and Park.  Is it to recharge the cells and the time travelers?  Since it was in the shed, could be something in the past that are now valuable in the future?  TSan came back to the shed to take it with him to the future.

 

HS opened her diary on the day of her journal entry and followed the instructions she wrote to herself - call TS to not open the suitcase.  Since she didn't get to talk to him, she needs to meet him in person. How did she know to go to Busan?  She has done this before (from the journal) since she is in a time loop.  

 

 

3 hours ago, pompyavi said:

Also in ep 1, I guess we saw Tae sul got a letter from a kid in elementary? school stating that she wants to marry him. I guess that she is Seo Hae. If it is then there are two Seo Hae's: one from future and the present one. I am curious how sisyphus will handle the concept..

 

I also think that the person who broke into Tae sul's penthouse is he himself. I mean his future self. On that basis if I have to make another assumption then the future Tae Sul want the events to happen the same way as it always had happened in earlier cycles so that the present Tae sul can become the way the future Tae Sul is..

 

@nrllee @Sleepy OwlYes yes. Future TS left the msg for himself using the paint spray and the painting, in a way that only he would be able to decode.  TS wants the events to stay the same up to a critical moment which he will then change to save HS' fate and also his brother.  He's guiding himself to that point.  HS will need to protect him until then.

 

Here are the letters and diary entry, same handwriting?  the pink diary seems like one of a young girl, like HS in the locket pics.  Note that the diary entry 8.13.20 is 2 days earlier than the Busan conference 8.15.20.  but matches the present time in the drama.  There's maybe too much of a gap in age no?  TS is 38 yo in 2020 (1982er).

 

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16 minutes ago, bedifferent said:

@nrllee @Sleepy OwlYes yes. Future TS left the msg for himself using the paint spray and the painting, in a way that only he would be able to decode.  TS wants the events to stay the same up to a critical moment which he will then change to save HS' fate and also his brother.  He's guiding himself to that point.  HS will need to protect him until then.

 

 

Now that is interesting. It means, both Tae Sul and Seo Hae want to stop the Sisyphean cycle. Seo Hae wants the events to stop completely by stopping the "somewhat" start point of all those events. Future Tae Sul feels like the events should pan out to some point and then change them at critical point, and this makes a lot more sense to me now. 

 

But this also confirms we have doppelgängers, and I wonder, will we see them meeting at one point or not. 

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@Sleepy Owlyeah, my guess is TS and HS want to stop the future but at different points in the timeline.  Maybe this is why they keep looping around because each changes the event in his/her timeline based on his/her goal.  Their goals are different with the previous attempts.  HS is weary, she has been repeating the same cycle over and over again.   She's out of juice, she fizzled out.  TS must be the same.

 

In 2020, when they meet in 2020, it will be the first time they have to work together.  This is pivotal cuz the change will start happening in E3.  @pompyavi POV would bring the possibility of doppelgangers.

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8 hours ago, bedifferent said:

yeah, my guess is TS and HS want to stop the future but at different points in the timeline.  Maybe this is why they keep looping around because each changes the event in his/her timeline based on his/her goal.  Their goals are different with the previous attempts.  HS is weary, she has been repeating the same cycle over and over again.   She's out of juice, she fizzled out.  TS must be the same.

I believe both of them does not know where the origin or the starting point is. Or if the starting point is supposed to be in their world???

 

This reminds me of the plot of another series where a scientist in the origin world made a time machine to go back to a point where his son is alive but the machine ended up splitting the world into two realities where certain events keeps on looping. In one reality the FL wants the loop to go on and in the other reality ML wants to destroy the knot that connects the two world/realities. Both of them guide their younger/past self to keep things happening the same way to achieve their goal. FL's goal was to keep the loop going forever whereas the ML wanted things to happen the same way and at one point he would find a way to destroy the knot. But since the origin lied outside of both the world the ML could never destroy the knot unless another time traveler realized that both the worlds grew out of something else. The traveler then used Schrödinger cat's experiment of dual realities to make her self choose a different path and go to the original world to stop everything.

 

@nrllee The plot above is from a critically praised scifi series where people were left scratching their heads after every episode. All though they repeatedly gave out several hints but none of us could catch those. After the final season we were like oh they hinted all these throughout the show..

 

Edit: the dialogue "the question is not from where but when" they have copied it from the series for which the plot i have mentioned. Just replaced "how" with "where".

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“Sisyphus: The Myth” Raises Questions With A Mysterious Photo Of Cho Seung Woo And Park Shin Hye

 

JTBC’s new Wednesday-Thursday drama “Sisyphus: The Myth” has been intriguing viewers with its fascinating worldbuilding.

 

“Sisyphus: The Myth” is a fantasy-mystery drama starring Cho Seung Woo as Han Tae Sool, a genius engineer who embarks on a perilous journey to bring light to hidden beings that are secretly residing in our world. Park Shin Hye stars as his savior Kang Seo Hae, who comes from a future that has fallen into ruin due to a war.

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Han Tae Sool’s world was thrown into chaos after an airplane accident forced him to confront unbelievable truths. He had thought the plane crash was caused by a bird strike, but the true cause turned out to be a suitcase that fell out of the sky and his dead brother, Han Tae San (Heo Joon Suk). Unable to believe his eyes, Han Tae Sool chased down the evidence of his brother, but kept running into further mysteries.

 

The start of these was a film camera that his brother carried around with him. After developing the film, it was revealed that it contained photos of a future Han Tae Sool. One of the photos showed him at a Busan conference called “Quantum and Time,” scheduled to take place two days from now. But the later photos continued to get stranger, including one that was a wedding photo with a woman he had never met.

 

At first, viewers speculated that the wedding photo hinted at a future relationship between Han Tae Sool and Kang Seo Hae. However, another element of confusion was added when the wedding began to appear in Kang Seo Hae’s dreams. Instead of being a happy event, an unknown being caused Seo Hae’s wedding dress to be stained red with blood. This being leveled a gun at Seo Hae and demanded Han Tae Sool choose between “the woman or the world.”

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The production staff stated, “There are a lot of mysterious clues sprinkled around in ‘Sisyphus: The Myth.’ If viewers keep in mind that Tae Sool and Seo Hae are trapped inside the myth of Sisyphus, who is destined to repeat his fate without end, then it will be easier to analyze what happens next. Please look forward to what direction Tae Sool and Seo Hae’s relationship will go after the discovery of the wedding photo.”

 

“Sisyphus: The Myth” airs on Wednesdays and Thursdays at 9 p.m. KST.

 

https://www.soompi.com/article/1455510wpp/sisyphus-the-myth-raises-questions-with-a-mysterious-photo-of-cho-seung-woo-and-park-shin-hye

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8 hours ago, pompyavi said:

I believe both of them does not know where the origin or the starting point is. Or if the starting point is supposed to be in their world???

 

 

Well, I think they have just set a critical point for it. For Seo Hae, if he had not opened the bag, maybe the events that would trigger would be lot different in way that they would not meet, as her dad wants it and so she would not die in the future as she has the memory flash. 

 

Future Tae Sul instead might want him to finally be with Seo Hae and marry her peaceful, since he loves her. So he might want the events leading them to meet and also meet his brother happen and then make change at a point where things would change and they would remain together. 

 

So there definitely is no starting point, it never exists. Its them who decide what they want their starting point to be and make it the point where they trigger changes.

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