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[Drama 2020] Romantic Doctor, Teacher Kim (Season 2), 낭만닥터 김사부 시즌2

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Hi everyone.. :D

After watching the first 3 eps im now hooked! Im happy they decided to make season 2. Lots of things can be learned in this series. Scenarios are close to reality too. 

 

As for the storyline, i find both characters strong and competitive. It looks like both studied medicine for their parents and none wanted this profession for themselves :( but i can see theyre both striving. I hope both will help each other to face their fears.

 

I was touched that AHY became concern of LSK's issues inside the OR and is looking after her now. 

 

 

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Hi chingus, one quick question. Do I have to watch the first season or this can be watched as a stand-alone????? 

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22 minutes ago, lu09 said:

Hi chingus, one quick question. Do I have to watch the first season or this can be watched as a stand-alone????? 

I think that plot-wise you can watch it from the start as a stand-alone. You can infer from some conversations between the characters that Dr Kim and Dr No have some bad history between them that caused Dr No to resign and now he is back to wreak havoc in Doldam Hospital again.

I think this would be similar to me watching "Jaws 2" before "Jaws" - I guessed (rightly) that there was a shark in "Jaws" causing trouble and now is back . There was no need to know more to enjoy the movie :D.

But I strongly recommend to watch the first part too, even as a sort of "prequel" - lots of fun and strong emotions. 

 

I wonder though if there will be any kisses in Dr Kim 2 ^_^

 

 

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That sumo Mr Goo not around anymore?

 

The A&E resident looks cute the first two episodes but after ep.4, I wonder what's her role. You really couldn't tell she is an A&E doctor if we skip the first two episodes.....She is just walking up and down the corridor most of the time.

 

Every doctor has a reason to be in Doldam. I wonder what's the story of that orthopaedic surgeon.

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I have a feeling that something bad/ tragic will happen to Yoon Areum. She's just too cheerful...

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@corey Thanks:). I started the first episode and I like it so far. 

 

Ohh, I was wondering why the new chairman was bad news. Guess there is bad blood between them. I think I'm gonna watch the first season after I'm done with this. 

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39 minutes ago, lu09 said:

Ohh, I was wondering why the new chairman was bad news. Guess there is bad blood between them.

 

Bucketfuls of bad blood :)

 

39 minutes ago, lu09 said:

 I think I'm gonna watch the first season after I'm done with this. 

 

Yes, yes, do watch it! I was a little apprehensive starting season 2 becuase I liked season 1 so much - there was a great chemistry between the leading couple, second lead was hot and medical aspects were really entertaining, so I was afraid the new one would not live up to my expectations and the young doctors would not be so interesting - but I am pleasantly surprised.

The season started with a bang, so there was not a dull moment, the leading couple has a great potential with some depth and history - in short - what is not to like :)

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My post is gonna contains some spoilers, so mind it as you read! 

Spoiler

 

I'm a fan of the first season. I also enjoy the chemistry and romance dynamic between the two young doctors in the first season. 

 

When they casts Lee Syung-kyung for the female doctor role, I initially had my doubt because Seo Huyn Jin in the first season was excellent. I didn't quite like Lee Syung-kyung character - Dr Cha so far, she couldnt stand blood and gore, and she took medication for her job, fainted and making excuses - I really couldn't stand her. 

Then episode 3 comes and reveals that in fact she went through med school with all that blood and tears to not disappointed her mother - this is also when Dr Seo Woo Jin's impression of Dr Cha changed, and eventually he starts notice her more and may even harbour a crush on her. 

 

Having gone through med school myself, I despited these people like Dr Cha back when I was still a med student.

People starts med school for various reasons but the two main ones are either they actually interest in the subject or they was under the pressure of their family. I have way too many of my asians friends who studied med school under pressure of family (it's almost like running in the wanting- their-son/daughter-to-do-well-in-life-and-respected-in-society kind of gene). They suffered, they repeated their years of study, and I thought these people better not becoming doctors since their intention in the beginning is all wrong. 

 

But now since I have graduated and started the training progress as doctor, my views have changed quite a lot. It doesn't matter about your beginning, med school is just a kindergarten. The real deal starts when you are in your residency because this is what will shape the kind of doctor you become.  As I watched the young doctors in this show being drained with work physically and mentally and sometimes got criticised in a mocking/unrespectful way in those big, famous fancy hospital, it's all too familiar. I love that Kim Sabu embodied the human factor in medicine that sometimes we would forget. How senior doctors should care of patient and their own junior doctors like human. Being respected and get praise when doing the good job, all motivate us along the way. 

I love watching Seo Woo Jin's talents getting recognized because he is good and is the real deal. But since I know about Dr Cha suffering now, I hope that her time with Kim Sabu will make her enjoy the work she does and be better at it. Her beginning to med school was different, and I did judge her for that, but that doesnt mean she won't become a good doctor - I am staying in this show to witness this character development. The role of the teacher is so important in these cases. There was one conversation between Kim Sabu and the ministry's doctor talk about how they care about their juniors doctor and want to support them so they can be the best doctor as they can be. This is what residency and medical education should be about. 

 

There are so many more minor characters in this show that also add in the stories in a nice mix of way. And Romantic dr Kim season 2 continues to deliver these characters developments. I am happy to hear the show doing well in terms of viewers. It's unusual that a medical drama would be high rating since they can be quite picky for general viewers because of their medical terms and operation scenes. 

 

 

 

 

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Episode 2 21:34  and the 21: 35 minutes. And 21:36.

 

@stroppyse or can anyone hear any numbers please? I literally can't hear or understand to make sense. Well I have 2 conflicting subs. What is he asking the nurse to do? I am happy even if it's written not translated as I can't hear the numbers. There were a few references for warmed saline in that episode. And  there are a lot of English terms used in this drama. But I cannot hear 10 litres of bag valve reservoir bag. Not to mention bag valve is a face mask? Not something else? Because bag valve reservoir bag is an ambo BVM for bagging a person not breathing. Did I hear a " reserve or reservoir mask?" I hear more of " reserve."

 

Han Suk Gyu has good and excellent diction. I can understand him perfectly. Ahn HS lisp is going to kill me for this drama. He is reminding me of Kwon Sang Woo in Medical top team. His lisp still makes me shudder trying to understand him speaking medical terms behind a mask.

 

 

Sorry guys. I was watching episode 2 and 3 in one hit last night. Ended up sleeping at 2am. I had forgotten how tense Dr Kim was. Then it made me go back to episode 17 and 20 for season one. Lol. Just to watch YYS doing fast suturing. Sigh he was so smooth. I just want to get ep 2 out of the way so I can move onto episode 3 and 4.

 

Just fyi a Fellow is board certified right? Which means she would have had to pass the actual operation skills or certain basic cardio- thoracic surgery skills.How can she be fainting? Unless Korean doctors don't require residents to do cardiac bypass etc. CS in SK includes lung surgery or transplantations as well. Pretty seriously complicated surgeries.

 

That's like basic skills. It's not as if it's a heart transplant. I know of- didn't follow to ask what happened- but coincidentally a Korean GS senior resident who can't operate basic skills such as colectomy etc. He was in danger of failing. I mean whether he goes back to South Korea or not as a senior trainee. However looking at the Korean university hospitals requirements for Fellows the writer is not making sense.

 

I think the writer's research assistants need to work better. Because there was an order for Pethidine as well. It's not widely or commonly used these days. 

 

Sorry.... did I say I like this drama? I like Master Kim. I am still withholding my opinion of the female lead. I feel slightly insulted they wrote her as a female 2nd year Fellow and made her so incompetent. No female would have been or have been able to get to a Fellow level with that level of surgicial skils. Or lack of. Its an insult or should be an insult to female doctors in SK. Oh another drama where the surgeon is written is a female who can't do her job. 

 

You can't write her as frozen in the OR. That's cardio thoracic surgery not cardiology. It would make more sense she freezes only on certain surgeries. Then show flashbacks of some traumas. Put something like- trauma  cardiac surgery-, and she doesn't have the confidence or speed. But am ok with scheduled cardiac surgery where she is on control. Because oh let's say her relative died in a car crash from a leaking aortic tear or something.

 

The politics are fine. Standard for Dr Kim. And Dr Kim is marvelous as usual.

 

And the writer must be so distracted by the success of season 1 they didn't even bother to include patients in the department ie extras. And just focusing on the hospital staff and politics. If you want to write write properly. The environment is not well fleshed out. And a 4th year resident floating with her head in the cloud? Whos in 4th year EM? Who the heck works 4 years in ER and be so clueless? 

 

Bye.... passing by just for the couple of lines @stroppyse the actor playing Master Kim ad libs. He does not go according to the script. So having the Korean script is not always helpful. Thank you so much. Hopefully once I get used to listening properly an their pronunciations I will be more alert.

 

Between this and Wonderful Life, would you believe the one drama I am actually spending time researching on is War of the prosecutors? I mean I like Crash Landing the best but the drama shooting site in Tongyeong for the prosecutors is making me research the city. Kim S2 is like a " have to watch " and cannot skip. But I am skipping the politics. Yawn yawn yawn. Especially with the Foundation chairman.

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1 hour ago, ck1Oz said:

Episode 2 21:34  and the 21: 35 minutes. And 21:36.

 

@stroppyse or can anyone hear any numbers please? I literally can't hear or understand to make sense. Well I have 2 conflicting subs. What is he asking the nurse to do? I am happy even if it's written not translated as I can't hear the numbers. There were a few references for warmed saline in that episode. And  there are a lot of English terms used in this drama. But I cannot hear 10 litres of bag valve reservoir bag. Not to mention bag valve is a face mask? Not something else? Because bag valve reservoir bag is an ambo BVM for baggin a person not breathing.

 

Watching the Viki version, and their translation seems fine for those, if I'm watching the correct scene. Dialogue goes as thus:

 

Start 21:28

SWJ: How are his vitals?

Paramedic: On the scene, his blood pressure was 100/80, but on the way, it dropped to 80/40.

CEJ: What about his saturation?

Paramedic: It was 88%, so we put him on O2 on the way in.

SWJ: Get a warm saline line and a reserve mask with 10 liters.

End 21:36

 

Viki then put an explanation in for that last order. Quote "(The warm line is to prevent shock. The reservoir bag-mask ensures the patient will only breathe pure oxygen.)

 

This explanation is correct actually. They would have given him saline to try to increase his blood volume and thus increase blood pressure. They would have warmed the saline up to prevent further shock from a cool liquid entering the blood stream. And, given his oxygen saturation level which the paramedic would probably have measured with a pulse oximeter, they would have wanted to give him pure oxygen via mask to try to get his blood oxygenation levels up.

 

So, the only things that I think Viki missed is that, the paramedic says the patient's saturation was at 88% (rather than the 91% in the subtitles), and also the oxygen mask with 10 liters is actually an order for the oxygen mask at 10 liters per minute which is a high flow rate.

 

Hope this is helpful. Or if I've got the wrong scene, then let me know. I'm not sure if Kim Sa Bu 2 is 2 half hour plus episodes or a single 1plus hour.

 

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@stroppyse. Got it thanks. I was watching it this morning after midnight. It was subbed differently. I was on the other site just now. It's been changed I was PMing the chief editor. But wanted to verify what I heard. Thank you very much.

 

Would change to 88%. I just watched ep 4's operation scene a minute ago. That was nicely done and written. 

 

Now I am off to the market after episode 4. And no more Kdrama just yet.

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I agree with the observations and comments regarding the role of Dr. Cha. For 3 episodes she's done nothing but ran out of the operating room, vomit, or faint. Why cast her as a cardio-thoracic surgeon then when she's not fit to be one. She could be a pediatrician.

 

That scene of her lamenting the drawn marks on her face. The ink's removed while she's rubbing it with her fingers. Why go to the length of running around, covering her face and stealing a surgical mask, when she could have gone to the washroom and wash off the ink with soap and water. She could have used wet tissues to wipe the ink off or even wet a cotton ball with some alcohol. Such a waste of video footage. Is she the comic relief?

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Probably. Because they are not using the female surgeon role well.

 

I am going. And taking back what I said about good writing. Even with dra- ma- tic medical scenes it doesn't mean absolute stupidity. Which idiot will miss a full examination and NOT exclude a flail chest or tension pneumothorax.  The writer needs better research assistants.

 

Anyway am done for this morning and will check the episode tonight. Why do I do this to myself? I could be watching War of prosecutors instead.

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So I'm done with all the episodes and so far I like it. I don't care about the medical terms or the procedures being done anymore because I throw logic out of the window lol:sweatingbullets::lol:. At least they are hand sanitizing and following protocols:rolleyes:. But back to the drama, EJ really needs to meet a therapist for her anxiety issue because eating those pills is never gonna solve the problem. I can relate to her in terms of not being able to handle an open wound, surgeries in general or having anxiety issues. And the real reason why I never became a nurse; forget about being a doctor lol:sweatingbullets: :lol:. However, this is wrong. She shouldn't have picked surgery when she found out during her residency that it was an issue. Or at least worked on it unless it's something that happened in the OR that is causing this problem. Teacher Kim won't allow her to go to OR that's for sure considering the fact that he knows what's going on. But other than this, she is good at her job and has a long way ahead of her. 

 

Poor SW, his entire family commits suicide and the only survivor. He is being chased by loan sharks because of his tuition money. He is whistleblower who everyone hates which I still don't understand what's wrong with what he did. If a doctor is doing something he is not supposed to do, then it's better if he is reported because a patient could die. And second of all, what's wrong with serving alcohol if you are a doctor? If no one is hiring him, then what's wrong with putting food on his table by working? These doctors really need to be put in their places and should appreciate what they have now. I'm glad Teacher Kim brought him in and acknowledges his skills. And I enjoy his little relationship with EJ because they are not afraid to point out what's what. 

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There will definitely be a different perspective watching a drama as a professional in that field itself and watching as a layperson.  I can relate to both and appreciate the different perspective.  I also believe that I'll learn lots of things from watching and reading the posts here.

 

My expectation from this drama is simple.   I'm looking forward to how Master Kim and the rest of staff at the hospital help to develop the new young doctors to become really good doctors at the hospital. So far I like it. 

 

p.s 

Plus the stories of other characters of course :)

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“Dr. Romantic 2” Records New High Point In Viewership Ratings

“Dr. Romantic 2” Records New High Point In Viewership Ratings

https://www.soompi.com/article/1377107wpp/dr-romantic-2-records-new-high-point-in-viewership-ratings

 

@Kasmic true I read that too on twitter they promise to duet when the rating surpass 10%... I guess we'll wait patiently for their gift 

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I am helping with subs for this drama specifically the medical subs so unfortunately have to pay attention to what is said. 

 

I am used to the really good Korean medical professionals I've encountered. Their notes are very, very thorough way more than usual. And I have Fellow friends who worked there as well. That is why dramas are dramas. And I pull my hair out each time I get sucked into a medical drama to check.

 

For war of the prosecutors.... I was busy googling seafood dishes. And oysters. In Tongyeong.

 

I happen to think Dr Kim season 1 was a particularly good drama to watch. And I like Master Kim a lot as a character. At this point am neither yay not nay for this drama. I am currently following 4 and I learn new words with each. So it's good enough.

 

I laugh at the hand wash comment. The other doctor still swiped his blood soaked gloved hand on his eye. And another had blood spurt onto his eye as well. I am so used to it I don't even point in out anymore or that's such a usual scene

 

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I'm curious to the reason why she's so anxious in the OR that she resorts to pills, yet she's okay in the ER. It's not the blood because she sees that in the ER as well. Is it holding the knife to cut open a body for surgery? She told Master Kim that she's okay with blood & cuts in the ER as long as she's not in the OR. Is it too late for her to perhaps switch to an ER doctor?

 

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