nona88 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, bedifferent said: @nona88 Kang transferred SM out to protect him. He knows the next time SM uncovers another corruption, the upper may not let him go that easy. A little of it is also of how and what he will be forced to do when SM gets into trouble again. He, Kang, would have to weigh risking his own career to save SM Yeh he tell him that when he was trying to meet prosecutor Ryu this time he cant protect him and he should stop this time would be no comeback 49 minutes ago, pompyavi said: I think that's what the show wants to highlight that no crime is trivial. Woo Tae Ha being a prosecutor arranged a meeting with female escorts to fulfill his ambition of becoming a politician. On top of that, instead of reporting his death, he tried to conceal that. CB, though i can understand her but she still chose to help him cover up in exchange for a higher position. The people who are supposed to protect the law and indict criminals do things like this, what hope do we have as a common people? On the top layer as Woo said, it was neither a homicide nor a very big corruption but that will lead to fall of the system. What about PGS? If Woo wouldn't have arranged that meeting, may be PGS wouldn't have to die, I am assuming he died after drinking a little bit of alcohol. Everyone knew that his body can't take alcohol. Let's say this case would have remained buried, in future both Woo and CB would turn a blind eye to each other's mistake. To keep their cover up hidden, Woo even endangered Dong jae's life, a police officer could have been wrongly indicted, two families would have been destroyed. Both CB and Woo wanted Dong jae to be gone for good just because they didn't want their secret to be out. As LCJ said in his letter to Shimok, the malaise in the system is killing people. If nothing is done, the system itself would fall. From what I understand from reading social news that this story really happened in Korea few years ago The case where cops and prosecutors was gathering and doing what woo and other did in that vacation house with woman and dirty deals And someone really die someday in that gathering and they cover it It was a very huge scandal in Korea and it was the start of uncovering the so many cases and involved people from political, police and prosecutors sides And what woo said prove that the writer did hint to that case since woo said it was planned to be a chain of gathering to use people to his career and that people being drunk and with women stop them from being acting high and might later It not simple even if somebody didnt die even if they still didn't make deal; the fact that gathering there drinking and doing that shameless and illegal gathering is only the start of a chain of dirty in all the powerful organizations So we dont even need to ask about why woo boss helping him , simply that meeting wasnt the first so you can understand that woo boss was also one of that chain 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonIvy Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I so love Stranger.... Exceptional Writer and Director.. Never expected the season 2 to end this way... Who would have thought that WTH and CB would collude.... Too good a series to end with just 2 seasons.. I am all for season 3...How about you guys??? Can't wait for tonight's episode.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Okay seems like nobody said it till now. I would like to applaud Kim young Jae the actor who portrays Kim Sa Hyun for his marvelous acting during the confrontation scene with WTH. His eyes said it all that he was frustrated, angry and disgusted with his senior. The way he said that Woo should thank Shimok instead of that someone was just WOW. I think the part where Woo Tae ha was still denying it was his plan was the most calm I’ve ever seen him in the entire series. Nothing to say about our duo, Choi Mu sung and Jeon Hye jin, they were awesome as always. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedifferent Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, ilovenico said: But even as I enjoy season 2, I felt that we were being led down the rabbit’s hole for a plot that turned out to be trivial with no grand conspiracy as it was for Season 1. Let’s hope the last episode tonight will make me eat my words! The brilliant thing about this season is what you have said... maybe there is no real baddie or a big conspiracy by Hanjo. What tragic is the trivialness of it all. People get dragged into situations, some by choice, others through relationships while some took opportunities that can't be overlooked. By perpetuating the cover ups, these mistakes reverberate into big things that killed and destroyed more lives. For me, the writer uses this drama as a warning for us that small crimes and favors unchecked have the potential to compound into big corruptions. When we talk about reforms, this is why the committee overseeing the prosecutors and police is so important. It must be able to recognize and stamp out the embers before they become big fires. 1 hour ago, pompyavi said: Shimok is very well written as it involves risk, him being not able to process emotions. I have seen in other dramas where the emotional less ML/FL ends up crying and i would be clueless as to how they can cry. But here she has taken care not to over do things. ShiMok is one of my favorite Kdrama characters, top 3. When I started watching S1, I thought he would be written to be more like Sherlock (of B Cumberbatch). I thought he would be responding only to his own callings. I am really really glad season 2's ShiMok learned to immerse himself a little more into the world that he thought he couldn't be a part of. It's so that he can be a better prosecutor but in the process, the writer did not compromise the righteous qualities that makes SM him. And she kept him expressionless most of times. It's not an easy task so I give credit to CSW for one heck of a job portraying SM. A lot of SM's facial expressions are subtle yet so on point. Case in point of how brilliant the writer is. Woo Tae Ha's password qjqwpeksqkddnxogk using the Hangul keyboard means Head of Legislation Woo Tae Ha. Ohhh how he aspires LOL. See you again in Season 3 Source 9 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 “Forest Of Secrets 2” Cast Shares Closing Messages Ahead Of Finale TV/Film Oct 4, 2020 by U. Kim Season two of “Forest of Secrets” (also known as “Stranger”) only has one final episode to go, and the cast members have shared a few words to say farewell to viewers. For the new season, Cho Seung Woo returned as the lonely prosecutor Hwang Si Mok. As a character who does not feel much emotion, Hwang Si Mok was a difficult role to bring to life, but with his skills, Cho Seung Woo was able to add a rich personality to the character. The actor said, “I’m going to think about it a lot, and I’ll miss it. It was an enjoyable experience working with great staff and cast members, and I feel proud because I think we’ve done well. Thank you so much for supporting and watching ‘Forest of Secrets 2’ until now.” Bae Doona poured her heart into her role as Han Yeo Jin once more. She said, “Every time I wrap up a project, I feel sad. It was the same when we wrapped up filming ‘Forest of Secrets’ three years ago and I thought I was sending Han Yeo Jin away forever. I was so grateful to be able to live as Han Yeo Jin once more thanks to the fans of ‘Forest of Secrets’ who asked for a second season, thanks to Cho Seung Woo, who opened up the possibility by bringing up season five on stage at the Baeksang Arts Awards, and thanks to tvN and the production staff who carried out season two as a team. Every single day I spent as Han Yeo Jin was a joyful day.” more https://www.soompi.com/article/1429409wpp/forest-of-secrets-2-cast-shares-closing-messages-ahead-of-finale 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Spoiler Looks like our geomsanim will be transferred to Wonju probably.. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, pompyavi said: Looks like our geomsanim will be transferred to Wonju probably.. That Why forest of secrets fans are the best High smart writing drama just get the best detectives fans for the good eyes catch fans I wish I can translation what was written on board but I cant see the written words clearly I guess we will have the Time jump in the final episode I was thinking from the start we going to get in half way P.s. send YJ there too she already in the bad sides of the bosses here Edit: I am curious about another thing : in ep 2 : SM talk about maybe finding answer this time ( when he was with kang) are we going to see him talk about it again, finding his answer or hearing the question itself from him ? ( we guessed but with SM we not sure till he talk ) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 hours ago, ilovenico said: But WTH’s ‘crime’ (if we can call it that), it seems so trivial- hiding the death of an ex colleague doesn’t seem so grave? There was no murder involved or was there? Rem the comment that ChoiBit made about the dashcam being turned off? Why was it turn off? And how did PARK really die-was it really a heart attack? So was he murdered by someone else after all? It doesn`t seem to be a great case? No, Park Kwang so was not murdered. It was really a heart attack. But Woo Tae Ha did not suposed to be there in the first place. The dashcam was truned off because it was a secret meeting. A prosecutor was recruted by a huge corporation. Even Park Hwang So was not suposed to work with Hanjo just like Oh Jun Sun now. It was bad if everyone would have found that. . Because Park Hwang So died at that vacation house, the police had to investigate what he is doing there, and with whom. No way Woo Tae ha wanted that to be discovered. When the chief of police told Choi Bit to go there, like a coward he passed the responsability on her subordonate. She knew that moving a body and stage as a heart attack on the road was illegal but she did it. She received a promotion because of that. I totally understand the dissapointment of Yeo Jin because Choi bit is really a capable woman in the police. She should not be involved in the corruption of others and wait to raise the ledder on her own merits. When Woo Tae Ha gave an untimatum to Yeo Jin and Shi Mok to saved someone they care about it was the poison apple. It could be an easier solution for everyone but in fact it is the first step in accepting corruption, accepting the flaws of a system. What should they do in the future? Investigate some crimes and ignore others? That it is not real justice. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I come here hours after watching the drama and BOOM, everything has already been discussed. Loved reading everyone's points here. @bedifferent everyone here can open up a detective agency together I guess as you said. Anyway, so WTH seems to be the ultimate baddie here. We had suspected him to be behind fake witness initially, but then the fake witness' connection to KSH made it look like he was behind him. But wow, I totally loved how KSH confronted WTH and ranted about how it could end in murder if SDJ had died. We all have people like WTH around, don't we? Who sugarcoat their acts as something to protect the organization, as he said he wanted to use it as opportunity to win the investigative rights. But also could be because he really didn't want SDJ to come out alive, because chances are he had uncovered things he was not supposed to while investigating PGS's death. Kudos to the actor who played KSH here, acted really well in that scene. Things are not so in favor for WTH right now, he will charged for both PGS's case and also in bringing fake witness and thus trying to change the course of investigation. Got to say the fake witness one was really a reckless move by him, especially since he chose an ex-convict for it. Seems like his plans are good, but he is not really good in implementing them. Good point @pompyavi, pointing out that the Director of Intelligence Bureau being charged and investigated for leaking info, was actually because WTH was getting back at him for sort of betraying them. To me now it makes much sense why Choi Bit looked a bit uneasy with him. She knows that getting on his bad side will make her lose her position too, since well WTH is a guy who pays back and plays dirty. My question here is, did PGS really die by accident? Being his junior, of course he must have known about his condition and that he does not drink. Did he do it with everyone around, in order to make it look like a death by accident due to his poor health condition? We got to see, as someone pointed out, even his superior seems to know about PHS's case. But well, looking at the preview and seeing him allowing SM to investigate, seems like he already cut the tail and abandoned WTH. Talking about Choi Bit, YJ was right to tell her that she would have achieved all she has now, but after some time. YJ really seemed to be disappointed and sad in knowing about her involvement. She really was someone she looked up to, so the shock must be very much for her to handle. Seems like SM is meeting her as many pointed out. We saw Choi Bit beating WTH in gathering the reporters, so chances are she'll take the fall but ensure to take WTH down with herself. I overall liked her character, she was much more smart and perceptive that WTH. WTH seemed more like a short-sighted person. Would do things for current profit would not see how it would benefit in the long run or not. But Choi Bit, she as I had said before too, always has something up her sleeve, and seems to predict things much better and her moves are usually benefitting her in the long run. Now that a top Prosecutor who is a chief in Supreme Prosecutor's office and Chief of Intelligence Bureau are involved in sort of a high profile murder of PGS or at least in abandoning his body and also WTH being in presenting the fake witness while Choi Bit in burying the drug case, I wonder who will get the investigative rights or will anyone really get it? I think the fight will continue. Thanks to @pompyavi with your post showing SM getting transferred to Wonju. I guess YJ will most probably return to being a field detective and return to her old team. As for KSH knowing about the watch in the photo, I think it could be WTH who told him about it saying that his sources told him. The way this dude was disappointed with WTH and ranted about WTH not caring about SDJ's life and changing the course of investigation with it, I don't really think he is behind anything here. And well Jang Gun's bruise on the face, we'll have to see how he got it. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sleepy Owl said: And well Jang Gun's bruise on the face, we'll have to see how he got it. Perhaps there was a scene involving him and the police and it was cut in the edit room. I don`t think he is connnected with the ongoing cases but we`ll see. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Owl Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, larus said: Perhaps there was a scene involving him and the police and it was cut in the edit room. I don`t think he is connnected with the ongoing cases but we`ll see. Yeah, chances are we all were overthinking over it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherriesblue Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Ok, does anyone here think that when Lee Changjun committed suicide in S1, was to expose the corruption of Hanjo? He couldnt do it yet because of his father in law, so he sacrificed himself. And yet noe, his wife is running the company partly, but it seems to be thr same old story. I guess you can say it is good, because the story is realistic. It is true Hanjo Engineering has irregularities, but mIss Chairwoman is not flawless either, as she said, they are not cheating, they are just being economical. They always talk in riddles. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrllee Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Did WTH confess to being the person who dropped the green lighter? He seemed oblivious to the real culprit? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Not really ready to say goodbye to this drama. Please, KdramaGod! More shows with this kind of writing. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, larus said: Not really ready to say goodbye to this drama. Please, KdramaGod! More shows with this kind of writing. I am praying to KdramaGods that Seungwoo wins baeksang again and we get this speech. cr: forchoswfans 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 We all want this series to continue. Cho Seung Woo is thinking just like us. Season 5 will be a great idea. First step is season 3. I will miss this duo as well. I loved their relationship in this season. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzareth Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I hope the subs for the final episode will come out as quickly as it did yesterday. I initially thought there might be a pace problem towards the end, but it has been great so far. I mean, SDJ was in captivity for about a week? No more than 2 weeks logically. So, the weird observation of SDJ's wife is mere red herring? LYJ is fast becoming a favourite character too. I hope she will still appear in S3 if we come to that. We haven't dig up enough about her this season. I think deep down she was really affected by her husband's death and secrets. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedifferent Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 My heart is full of joy Spoiler cheer for the unwavering friendship thankful for the memories All the prosecutors in ShiMok's life~~ grateful for the human kindness given toward second chances All well that ends well. Truly an excellent second season. True friends will find each other Spoiler Credit: Netflix The End. Till Season 3. 6 1 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummi Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, dzareth said: I hope the subs for the final episode will come out as quickly as it did yesterday. I initially thought there might be a pace problem towards the end, but it has been great so far. I mean, SDJ was in captivity for about a week? No more than 2 weeks logically. So, the weird observation of SDJ's wife is mere red herring? LYJ is fast becoming a favourite character too. I hope she will still appear in S3 if we come to that. We haven't dig up enough about her this season. I think deep down she was really affected by her husband's death and secrets. I am still waiting on E16 to come out on my local Netflix. E14 came out really quickly last weekend. I would really love to see WTH's downfall. The way he behaved when cornered was just disgraceful. He scrambled to save himself in any way possible, even if it meant dragging other people into the mud. CB i believed has some redeeming features. She was dragged in, yes by her own ambition and by her own choice. But she owned up to it in front of YJ when confronted. I loved seeing how SM silently worried about YJ. You could tell it from the way he was silently observing her, from the interrogation scene with ex intelligence bureau director and the face off with WTH. Not so much for himself, coz i believe he would have no qualms pressing forward even if he were to be penalised. But he gently reminded YJ that WTH meant what he said and she could definitely get convicted by the end of this all. BDN was gold in this ep! I could feel her disappointment with CB. Someone you could tell she really looked up too. Someone she respected enough to change herself to meet CB's expectations. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Is there someone like me still trying to progress the feeling of the last episode I dont know what to say and how to comment on the ending I will watch it again with sub and I hope I am getting better after that The confuse feeling of the ending is bigger than what I was ready for 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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