pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, farawayland said: My conclusion: prosecutor Park was the lawyer for the Assemblyman. even though his name was not mentioned, I think it’s the same Assemblyman Nam. The timing is the same, 2 years ago. Question: was WooTaeha the Assistant Chief back then? I am confused with all the titles Nice catch. I also watched that scene. Seeing how they did not mention the charges or anything, it can be lawyer Park Gwang Su. I don't think Woo was the assistant chief in Tongyeong back then and neither it was assemblyman Nam. 45 minutes ago, bedifferent said: I think this female prosecutor could be the one that replaced prosecutor Ryu. She was pressured to clear Assemblyman Nam. Before this, Investigation Bureau (prolly Choi Bit boss) took over the case from local police to investigate then Chairman of Budget Committe Nam. They found him guilty of bribery charge to get his son the bank job. Woo Tae Ha/Supreme Prosecutor Office then pressured Ryu and his replacement, the female prosecutor above, to drop the police charge. But this happened recently right. If I remember correctly Nam was being investigated for that since 1 and a half years ago and he got cleared by the prosecution and decided to press charges against the investigation bureau director. So it cannot be that female prosecutor in Tongyeong, because she was demoted before ShiMok came to SPO 6 Link to post Share on other sites
pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 hour ago, bedifferent said: Dong Jae was transferred to another car. The license plate is not his and he drives a crossover. Has to be a two person job?! That’s why they abandoned his car in a rush at that angle. BTS giving us hints.. LOL. Did they purposely did not edit it out? 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
nona88 25,038 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Let play "what if" game 1. The formal station chief ( who need anger management treatment)was suprised to hear SM and YJ asking about his phone call with SDJ, since the phone call was from the office phone records not personal phone so what if he really wasn't the one who talked with ??? Here come the female prosecutor role!!!!! 2. SDJ was about to go to meet chief woo it important meeting for him , can someone like SDJ risk being late on that meeting for going to another far area to meet someone even if it related to same work ?? What if he was there for personal matters something related to his family and he couldn't think ir care about the distance matter at that moment and what if chief woo lie about meeting him or the time they subbosed to meet and he know he was going to something for him and get worried when he didnt answer his phone??? Or what if it was staged he wasnt attacked in that area and was derived away and then switched car and leave blood simple there ??? 3. Sdj said he was the one who found the death officer case but what if he lie about it, if someone also like the female prosecutor or other in his office who suggests and start looking at that case and were angry he using their finding to gain something for himself Okay everyone suggest the most what if plot we see till now 53 minutes ago, pompyavi said: BTS giving us hints.. LOL. Did they purposely did not edit it out? Maybe yes or maybe no It maybe they film it to be one of imagination crime scene YJ and SM will have specially the one with the ex chief as criminal but or they didnt air it yet or it was cut from the final version I would liked to see that each imagining flashback wity each plot that think about but they cut few of it 7 Link to post Share on other sites
ross27 7,387 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 So many things happened in episodes 7 and 8 that I must re-watch them to look out for all the details alerted from this forum! Not a dull moment and each episode finished so quickly. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
AC95 573 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, pompyavi said: From the BTS, it is indeed Dong Jae Yeah, unfortunately they seem to have a used a body double for certain parts. Well spotted initially nevertheless. I've been a champion lurker on this thread but keep all those great theories coming. Slightly off-topic - I can't help feeling the product placement of a certain car brand is a little intrusive... 7 Link to post Share on other sites
pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Guys, why was Dong jae kidnapped on the day of Hanjo's shareholders meeting? That too after the result was in favor of LYJ. Also, he is the one who gave the information about LYB's anger issue. I was suspecting that Director Park may be working for LSJ secretly. But if that is the case, LSJ should have known before hand that it was SDJ. As of now CB and Woo are out of my suspect's list. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
nrllee 16,786 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 We only see her back (the lady prosecutor who was demoted). I thought it was odd for SM to have a flashback about that incident? They were in the council meeting and arguing about rights to request a warrant. And at that point they were talking about how police were punished before for refusing to obey prosecutor orders. Kang and his trainee? we’re talking about Ryu in Ep5 after the news broke about Nam suing the Director. And July was mentioned? @bedifferent ‘s already mentioned it in her post above. I only just read it. Spoiler 8 Link to post Share on other sites
rita96 724 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 17 hours ago, bedifferent said: @larus thanks for the video about clue and possible suspects. The Tongyeong kid is a newbie driver so understandable is a bad driver. The angle of the car is weird. If it was him driving, why take the key if you don't intend to go back to the car to retrieve it? Keeping the key would incriminate him? ShiMok saw this drawing by Yeo Jin at the computer desk while waiting for captain to copy the call log. He knows Yeo Jin stopped by the station. Hard to read his expression LOL. What do you think is going through his mind at this moment? He stared at it for a while. He reminded her about her doodles on the rooftop nights ago. He must be pleased that she draws again. I also wondered if he thinks someone is watching and driving the investigations, Choi Bit incl When he looked at the doodle he was reminded of how SDJ's trainee was relieved to know about the kidnapping case being in Yongsan police station's jurisdiction and not Dongducheon's since he was investigating the latter. So I think what went through SM's head when looking at the doodle was what if the car was deliberately parked by the culprit in that area to ensure the case goes to Yongsan? Cause if the case went to Dongducheon wrong/corrupted people could be "watching and driving" the investigations like you mentioned. This could also explain why the car was parked haphazardly- because it wasn't parked by SDJ (who SM pointed out cared a great deal about it) but the culprit who left it in hurry. The blood could be planted to make sure there is no question of who the victim is and raise tension maybe. 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites
pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, nrllee said: Kang and his trainee? we’re talking about Ryu in Ep5 after the news broke about Nam suing the Director. And July was mentioned? I seriously need to list down all the events with date and time. 5 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
abyssal 229 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 17 hours ago, bedifferent said: Hard to read his expression LOL. What do you think is going through his mind at this moment? He stared at it for a while. He reminded her about her doodles on the rooftop nights ago. He must be pleased that she draws again. I think he's thinking also about the Chief's statement that he had to make copies because he was showing the original earlier when they were in the room. Because Yeojin got her copy/pictures semi-secretly. The doodle could have been from before, but I think Si Mok is thinking 'Oh! A present.' 9 minutes ago, nrllee said: And July was mentioned? The thing with our show here is that all the teeny details become the most important! There's probably some kind of relevance, someone's promotion, some political event happening around that time? I also think that CP Kang's face radiates 'this will become very troublesome' mood. Can't believe it's only Tuesday shshsh I'm waiting for the next reveals! 7 Link to post Share on other sites
nrllee 16,786 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, rita96 said: When he looked at the doodle he was reminded of how SDJ's trainee was relieved to know about the kidnapping case being in Yongsan police station's jurisdiction and not Dongducheon's since he was investigating the latter. So I think what went through SM's head when looking at the doodle was what if the car was deliberately parked by the culprit in that area to ensure the case goes to Yongsan? Cause if the case went to Dongducheon wrong/corrupted people could be "watching and driving" the investigations like you mentioned. This could also explain why the car was parked haphazardly- because it wasn't parked by SDJ (who SM pointed out cared a great deal about it) but the culprit who left it in hurry. The blood could be planted to make sure there is no question of who the victim is and raise tension maybe. I like this theory. But if it’s the trainee JMH who is the culprit, who’s her accomplice? She can’t possibly be strong enough to lift DJ into the boot of a car. And she doesn’t seem strong enough to knock him out with a brick either? Or maybe she’s innocent (like ES was). . And we should be looking for someone with violent tendencies eg the bully student, the uncle Chief with anger issues. Whoever it was didn’t have to beat SDJ so badly after finding him trying to escape? But he did? He/She had anger issues. EDIT - also, who do people think the culprit is addressing in this comment (that he/she opted not to post)? DJ? Or his wife? The video of the wife was playing then. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
rita96 724 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, nrllee said: I like this theory. But if it’s the trainee JMH who is the culprit, who’s her accomplice? She can’t possibly be strong enough to lift DJ into the boot of a car. And she doesn’t seem strong enough to knock him out with a brick either? Or maybe she’s innocent (like ES was). . And we should be looking for someone with violent tendencies eg the bully student, the uncle Chief with anger issues. Whoever it was didn’t have to beat SDJ so badly after finding him trying to escape? But he did? He/She had anger issues. Thank you. No I am not saying that JMH is the culprit, I mean she could be but all I am saying is that maybe the culprit thought the same way. That is to say that the culprit is someone who has been wronged by police at Dongducheon in some way and has trust issues with that station. God I do hope her fate does't turn out like ES's though if she is innocent. And agree about the anger issue- it seems that SDJ has personally wronged the culprit given the violence. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
farawayland 629 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 5 hours ago, pompyavi said: Nice catch. I also watched that scene. Seeing how they did not mention the charges or anything, it can be lawyer Park Gwang Su. I don't think Woo was the assistant chief in Tongyeong back then and neither it was assemblyman Nam. But this happened recently right. If I remember correctly Nam was being investigated for that since 1 and a half years ago and he got cleared by the prosecution and decided to press charges against the investigation bureau director. So it cannot be that female prosecutor in Tongyeong, because she was demoted before ShiMok came to SPO She was working on the Assemblyman’s case 2 years ago and it was in Seoul. She was demoted/moved to Tongyeong after that. She talked to a Seoul’radio station about the pressure from higher up. That’s why the timing is matched. It came to my mind as they don’t give details like this for no reasons, not with Stranger Based on the message left by the kidnapper, it must be someone who is very angry about the system. Anyway, nothing concrete, just theory.. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, farawayland said: She was working on the Assemblyman’s case 2 years ago and it was in Seoul. She was demoted/moved to Tongyeong after that. She talked to a Seoul’radio station about the pressure from higher up. Thanks for that. I wasn't aware of that. Yet, Nam Jae Ik was cleared after Shimok came to Supreme Prosecutors Office. But yeah she may have been working in SPO, since investigating an assemblyman is not a small thing. Also she might be having a grudge towards Woo, may be involved. Edit: Nam Jae Ik's case was being investigated by Gyeonggi Nambu police station and it was transferred to Ryu who was in Seongnam branch. And Ryu's replacement is the one who cleared him of all charges. So that female prosecutor might be investigating some other assemblyman or may be assemblyman Nam but in that case the charges would be different. The radio broadcasting date was 2019-01-13. 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gummi 366 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, farawayland said: She was working on the Assemblyman’s case 2 years ago and it was in Seoul. She was demoted/moved to Tongyeong after that. She talked to a Seoul’radio station about the pressure from higher up. That’s why the timing is matched. It came to my mind as they don’t give details like this for no reasons, not with Stranger Based on the message left by the kidnapper, it must be someone who is very angry about the system. Anyway, nothing concrete, just theory.. Gosh you guys are ah-mah-zing! Had a field day reading all the theories! I wonder who is so angry at the system and wants to reveal everything. Similar to S1 where this person created a high profile incident by kidnapping Gayoung to reveal the underlying corruption. So who kidnapped SDJ, knowing that kidnapping a prosecutor is likely to become super high profile. And while investigating and retracing his lst steps, in hope ppl may find out the stuff he was investigating perhaps? I also wondef why SDJ started reinvestigating the tongyeong drowning. There is no link about the drowning incident with the greater corruption matters that I can see. Other than Prosecutor Ryu, and Choi Bit who spoke with the vicitims' families. I wonder why there was that need to check what CB mentioned to the families. Could prosecutor ryu have been asked to quickly close the case coz it was linked to something bigger. Something about the young couple who cut the restriction lines? Were they really just at the wrong place at the wrong time? Did CB have to personally visit the victims familes just for the purpose of sullying the prosecution's name? So many questions! 9 Link to post Share on other sites
larus 100,757 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Forest of Secrets 2: Episode 7 by quirkycase Our snooping prosecutor takes center stage this hour as both the police and prosecution rush to locate him. Time is of the essence, but the frustrating lack of evidence makes it hard to know where to look. Thankfully, our favorite investigative duo come together, pooling their knowledge and brainpower to find their (kind of) friend. If anyone can save him, it’s these two. Let’s just hope it’s not too late. EPISODE 7 Shi-mok meets Chief Prosecutor Kang who chides him for dredging up the past (i.e. looking into Assemblyman Nam), but Shi-mok is firm in his conviction. When Chief Prosecutor Kang says it’ll hurt “your Chief Woo,” Shi-mok baldly states Tae-ha isn’t “his” anything. Chief Prosecutor Kang warns him he’s in over his head; the prosecution has not only let cases like this slide, but they’ve sided with the people in power against their own prosecutors. He says Shi-mok shouldn’t come running to him if things go bad, to which Shi-mok replies he already knows that. more https://www.dramabeans.com/2020/09/forest-of-secrets-2-episode-7/ 5 5 Link to post Share on other sites
pompyavi 9,063 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Could it be him who accidentally killed Song Ki Hyeon? He is short in height 4 Link to post Share on other sites
nona88 25,038 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I have to admit ost 3 is growing on me specially the lyrics but it perfect song from every side and a good choice to be the them of both SM & YJ Okay back to the drama I rewatched this week episodes again today and I know I wrote about it before but again I keep getting the vibe of season 1 that everything is staged something not right on the whole SDJ kidnapping and where and when his car and blood where found !!!! It again the same feeling someone trying to make sure that YJ and SM will work on this case Okay I may be wrong as said before maybe what happened to SDJ will be not related to all this cases but is the door opening to investigate them all Hoping to see more SM and YJ thinking and solving the mystery together that the best part watching them and start to think with them with every logical plot 8 Link to post Share on other sites
taeunfighting 3,787 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Hi everyone, awesome discussions! I watched the latest episode twice and I still don't know what to think... So many details making so many people suspicious. (@AC95 @bedifferent @nrllee Feels almost like TLW's LJH again with the 365 head-spins. ) Not saying that they are likely suspects (at least not yet), but I agree that both Jung Min Ha and Kim Sa Hyun's behaviors are strange. JMH seems especially interested in the Segok case and pushing for it to be properly re-investigated. With KSH, when Shi Mok asked him if he thought WTH would dig dirt on CB, the gist of his response was that "we are preparing" for the debate. Spoiler It made me wonder if KSH may have been the person who tipped off the old cases tied to CB to Dong Jae to dig up again. (At that time, not knowing that CB had a connection to WTH, but he is suspicious now.) He seems to have an interest to take down CB for the sake of investigation rights or there could be more to it than that. Also, based on his conversation with WTH, he seems to know that Dong Jae was snooping around to find dirt on CB. Spoiler Either way, both JMH and KSH are definitely two people we need to keep our eyes out on. - - - - - - - - On 9/6/2020 at 9:36 AM, bedifferent said: Did CB/WTH have an affair? When Dong Jae brought Park Gwang Su's case to WTH, WTH asked Dong Jae if he was suspecting an affair between him and CB. Was WTH maybe referring to himself and not PGS here? Spoiler - - - - - - - - On 9/7/2020 at 2:22 AM, larus said: They don`t let Shi Mok eat in this show. When he wanted to get a bite of his sandwich, of course, his phone rang. And, it was Yeo Jin who called him. I was KSH when Shi Mok did not get at least a bite out of that decent-looking sandwich. By the way he was handling it, it seemed like he almost forgot how to eat one. Spoiler By the end, we better see him and Yeo Jin have a nice meal together. 6 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites
nrllee 16,786 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, taeunfighting said: It made me wonder if KSH may have been the person who tipped off the old cases tied to CB to Dong Jae to dig up again. He seems to have an interest to take down CB for the sake of investigation rights or there could be more to it than that. Also, based on his conversation with WTH, he seems to know that Dong Jae was snooping around to find dirt on CB. He was also chummy with Lee ChangeJoon. They have history. Remember how he talked to SM and started reminiscing about the good old days? And saying that he was shocked that he committed suicide? Did he sound like he was fishing to you? He always sounds like he’s trying to gauge where your allegiance lies when he strikes up “casual” conversation. Like you mentioned when he talked about CB to WTH. When he talked about LCJ with SM. He even told SM to ask WTH to get him off the case investigating DJ’s disappearance if it was “too hard”. As if he’s trying to gauge if SM empathized with LCJ. Also KSH seems to be wanting to move up the ranks? This is WTH talking to SM at the National Assembly. KSH knows how to cozy up with the Assembly folk. And he gets a phone call from DJ during this conversation with SM. But he opts to hang up on DJ. I feel bad for DJ. He’s trying his utmost to climb up the ranks and he just gets pipped each time by SM (who couldn’t care less and would happily trade places with him). It must be frustrating to have someone so blasé about it and yet beating you consistently regardless. Spoiler DJ hears about the Tongyeong case (Too many pics so in a doc) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MUXo80fpd3vy1lExmXanJoGffm-9-VyeZML-b6dmDno/ 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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