nona88 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 To be honest YJ and SM really not fit for this kind of position on reform teams What the chief of prosecutors said was true in these teams you need people who fight for the right and power of their team no matter what And that not YJ or SM character, the decision that will be out of this fight will affect both sides for the long time ahead it will affect everyone in police and prosecutors sides no matter if it the bad or the good guys in the system So having two people who only care about true even if it small or big and dont care about the bigger picture is mistake Dont get me wrong, I am totally with what YJ and SM value but we all know how this system work it not just the wrong one will pay the price but everyone Still I will sure be with SM and YJ side but I am just saying it not easy decision more then season 1 it more the grey area that you can understand everyone view of things 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 28 minutes ago, nona88 said: To be honest YJ and SM really not fit for this kind of position on reform teams What the chief of prosecutors said was true in these teams you need people who fight for the right and power of their team no matter what I agree with what you said but we did not see them at work in that committee yet. From what I saw, Yeo Jin believes in what police side has proposed. She is with her team. Shi Mok was more suited like the observer but it is not his fault that he was chosen. But he knows the law very well and he will bring arguments to present the cause. But I believe they will start investigate the case more than meet in the committee. The prosecutor will try to use the file Dong Jae brought to undermine the police side. We know that Choi Bit was involved and we don`t know how far the coruption have spread in this case. I don`t want Choi Bit to be proven corrupt. It will be a huge blow to Yeo Jin who admires her. Just like in season 1 Lee Chang Joon was a model for Shi Mok and other prosecutors. When Shin Jae Yong, Choi Bit`s boss came to talk to her said that he doesn`t know why the prosecutors are targeting the head of police, he felt that it is something personal in that and I feel like Choi Bit knows more than she is letting to know. If Choi Bit and the police won`t be cleared of the suspisious, the negotiation will be compromised. I am sure that the case will become more complicated and not only the police will be involved. We`ll see. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, larus said: When Shin Jae Yong, Choi Bit`s boss came to talk to her said that he doesn`t know why the prosecutors are targeting the head of police, he felt that it is something personal in that and I feel like Choi Bit knows more than she is letting to know. Both Choi Bit and Woo are fishy and hiding things. From what I understood, Woo Tae Ha didn't take the file where Choi Bit manipulated the prosecutor's death. He took the other two files. Also Choi Bit said to HYJ that everything is connected when she came running seeing the TV news about the Intelligence director being arrested. Is she aiming to replace the director ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, pompyavi said: From what I understood, Woo Tae Ha didn't take the file where Choi Bit manipulated the prosecutor's death. He took the other two files. All three files have Choi Bit as a target. I think he took the police suicide because he wanted to investigate a case where the police officers were involved. I won`t be surprised if the that prosecutor`s case is connected with this also. Unfortunetly we`ll see many death and cover ups until we know the truth. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, larus said: All three files have Choi Bit as a target. I think he took the police suicide because he wanted to investigate a case where the police officers were involved. I won`t be surprised if the that prosecutor`s case is connected with this also. Unfortunetly we`ll see many death and cover ups until we know the truth. Wasn't he targeting the Intelligence director and asked SDJ to leave Choi Bit out and go after the bigger names? Yep I believe the prosecutor's case will eventually come up. Otherwise they would not show SDJ keeping it in a drawer 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, pompyavi said: Wasn't he targeting the Intelligence director and asked SDJ to leave Choi Bit out and go after the bigger names? Yes, Woo Tae Ha wanted the bigger name but Dong-Jae is what he got. But I wonder if Woo Tae Ha really wanted to leave Choi Bit out with the pretense that he wants her boss or it is something with these two? I suspect everthing. I laughed when the prosecutors wanted to recrut members for the team and Shi Mok knew what everyone has been doing. He is like a library. 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, larus said: I laughed when the prosecutors wanted to recrut members for the team and Shi Mok knew what everyone has been doing. He is like a library. Lol Shi Mok is more polite now compared to season 1. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, pompyavi said: Lol Shi Mok is more polite now compared to season 1. I wonder when he will start to annoy his boss. He will do what he things is right not what his boss tells him. When the chief from Tongyeong was angry that he did not come to the farewell party, we heard how he scolded Shi Mok asking "You don`t feel bad people for people were waited for you" (something like that) I answered for him : Nope. I imagined his calm/ straight face while the chief was angry. The new chief was puzzled why he chose to have a room in the dormitory with the investigators. It is the beginning. **** 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, larus said: I wonder when he will start to annoy his boss. He will do what he things is right not what his boss tells him He has already started that but in non aggressive mode. I am curious though what's the motive of taking him into team? Why Choi Bit wanted him to be an adviser? And why WTH took him as a member, knowing how is he? Does he think he can use him or manipulate him? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taeunfighting Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 hours ago, bedifferent said: Whoa, you are the first person that hope Yeon Jae will change for the better. I didn't get the same feelings after seeing how she overruled her advisors to hire tax specialists despite knowing it compromises business ethics. She will keep Hanjo operations the same to save her father's legacy. She knows that she is only interim deputy chairman while Chairman Lee is in jail. I may be the first and only one – ha. I work in the area of tax and did a brief rotation in S. Korea so the meeting of Lee Yeon Jae and her advisors caught my attention. Based on that conversation, I too did not get the impression that she was all business ethical, but think it is still early and things can potentially evolve. Since change was something that Lee Chang Joon mentioned in the opening narrative, I hope change for the better can happen even for the most unlikely characters in the story as well. With Yeon Jae, she seemed frustrated with her half-brother and his tactics. If she succeeds in securing the majority company shares, it is possible she can be chairwoman and steer the direction of the Hanjo according to her own beliefs. I do not want Lee Yoon Beom to come back and in the end, I want her to choose her husband’s final legacy over her father’s. I still remember from season 1 finale, she told her late husband that she was sorry and wished he had just told her everything. Would be nice if those words can translate into something meaningful from Hanjo’s perspective. Anyway, I am getting off tangent from what’s been presented so far so I will stop here. 1 hour ago, larus said: I don`t want Choi Bit to be proven corrupt. It will be a huge blow to Yeo Jin who admires her. Just like in season 1 Lee Chang Joon was a model for Shi Mok and other prosecutors. I feel the same as you about Choi Bit - I do not want her to be corrupt. Yeo Jin does seem to admire her and I got the sense that she admires Yeo Jin back. She is tough in front of Yeo Jin, but I noticed that she usually gives a slight smile when Yeo Jin leaves. We shall see how her character plays out. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 55 minutes ago, taeunfighting said: I feel the same as you about Choi Bit - I do not want her to be corrupt. Yeo Jin does seem to admire her and I got the sense that she admires Yeo Jin back. She is tough in front of Yeo Jin, but I noticed that she usually gives a slight smile when Yeo Jin leaves. We shall see how her character plays out. Yes, I am curious about her too. She is tough. I like how she did not give up and she actually made possible another meeting between police and prosecutors. Perhaps Yeo jin was right (it was better to promote positive articles about police and not attack the prosecutors) but she knows politics. I am afraid that the first season scenario will happen again. I still remember how I liked Lee Chang-Joon and Yoon Se Won and we know how everything ended. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, larus said: I agree with what you said but we did not see them at work in that committee yet. From what I saw, Yeo Jin believes in what police side has proposed. She is with her team. Shi Mok was more suited like the observer but it is not his fault that he was chosen. But he knows the law very well and he will bring arguments to present the cause. But I believe they will start investigate the case more than meet in the committee. The prosecutor will try to use the file Dong Jae brought to undermine the police side. We know that Choi Bit was involved and we don`t know how far the coruption have spread in this case. Yes I am with you that Yj believes of what she doing there and believe that the police should have power to make change she too has to struggle as police officer under the prosecutor authority and dirty work She dont agree on using dirty methods to that as we saw from ep1 that what will make it hard that the facts that she know should be out will be the reason to destroyed what she believed should happen 3 hours ago, larus said: I don`t want Choi Bit to be proven corrupt. It will be a huge blow to Yeo Jin who admires her. Just like in season 1 Lee Chang Joon was a model for Shi Mok and other prosecutors. When Shin Jae Yong, Choi Bit`s boss came to talk to her said that he doesn`t know why the prosecutors are targeting the head of police, he felt that it is something personal in that and I feel like Choi Bit knows more than she is letting to know. If Choi Bit and the police won`t be cleared of the suspisious, the negotiation will be compromised. I am sure that the case will become more complicated and not only the police will be involved. We`ll see. Totally agree I notice her reacting was off that why I said I feel she the most dangerous one here till now I think she the one who hide more I think it going to be a case where police involved in killing dirty police officer and prosecutors I I dont know if they just doing it to hide the true or for crazy believe that they cleaning the system But like you I want to be wrong YJ will take a really hard one if that the true and even if just like SM she sure can overcome that but it still hurt 3 hours ago, pompyavi said: Both Choi Bit and Woo are fishy and hiding things. From what I understood, Woo Tae Ha didn't take the file where Choi Bit manipulated the prosecutor's death. He took the other two files. Also Choi Bit said to HYJ that everything is connected when she came running seeing the TV news about the Intelligence director being arrested. Is she aiming to replace the director ? You right and even when he ask him if he know the death prosecutor at first he act like he didnt even when his face show he did know him We know that they all dirty at one point If choi has being doing dirty work in police then at some point she did that for prosecutor too I know they fight now but that dont mean they didn't work together in past and willingly will work again together in future if they needed It just they fight and hurt each other to some line after that line they all togethers in this dirty powerful game Edit : @larus dear let me borrow your gif That my favorite dude when they sneak off the work behinds their boss back to play together the proplem that this two playing always ended with a nuclear bomb that affect the country thanks for this gif my favorite running kids Edited August 17, 2020 by nona88 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 I was starring at this actor. I recognized him but I could not remember from where. Then I found out. He is Jung Sung Il and I saw him this year in Woman of 9.9 Billion. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 My friend's leave the serious things aside I have two important questions here 1. Why we didn't see YJ drawing again? It was her way to Express her thoughts and feelings 2 .and most important are we going to see the smiling drawing that she give to SM again ??? We know he kept it from season 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larus Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, nona88 said: .and most important are we going to see the smiling drawing that she give to SM again ??? We know he kept it from season 1 If not, she will give him another drawing. We`ll see Shi Mok eating again? In two occasions they interupted him and we did not see him eat. But we see him doing house chore (shaking a blanket). 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pompyavi Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, nona88 said: 1. Why we didn't see YJ drawing again? It was her way to Express her thoughts and feelings 2 .and most important are we going to see the smiling drawing that she give to SM again ??? We know he kept it from season 1 Adding to the list: 3. Where's the photo frame that Shi Mok had in namhae office? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nona88 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 @larus poor him , the wish that they leave him to finish his meal is international now from season 1 to season 2 I like the writer keep up his little details And for the smile what about making YJ make him give us another one before the drawing itself 43 minutes ago, pompyavi said: Adding to the list: 3. Where's the photo frame that Shi Mok had in namhae office? Yeh that one too the family picture to think about it now there something is missing too Where the promise that YJ give to SM in the end of season 1 That he can come to stay at her house if he come to Seoul and he have no place to sleep in ! Hello the man in homeless now mr writer Sorry a crazy fan of season 1 is written now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawayland Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 4 hours ago, pompyavi said: Adding to the list: 3. Where's the photo frame that Shi Mok had in namhae office? I am satisfied if they give us these regardless the plot think Yeojin was not randomly picked to join the Intelligent team 2 years ago and now Shimok to be an advisor both by Choi bit. It easy to find out the friendship between these two. She or (they?) think Shimok or Yeojin would influence each other and therefore sway things to their way? since investigation rights has been a long standing issue. The plan was to get Yeojin or Shimok involve was in motion may be 2 years ago? Whatever Choi bit’s intention, i think she does like Yeo jin and there is mutual respect between these two. It would make it much harder for Yeojin which create interesting conflict to the story. Shimok is however always suspicious of Lee Changjoon. He does not trust him despite the initial admiration at the beginning when Shimok was a young prosecutor. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penelop3 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 hours ago, larus said: I was starring at this actor. I recognized him but I could not remember from where. Then I found out. He is Jung Sung Il and I saw him this year in Woman of 9.9 Billion. Why do I feel that he has a romantic feeling towards Lee Yoon Jae? 9 hours ago, larus said: The new chief was puzzled why he chose to have a room in the dormitory with the investigators. It is the beginning. **** I was hoping that during the first meeting HSM-HYJ, this topic came out and HYJ would offer to rent out her room to HSM! 8 hours ago, taeunfighting said: I may be the first and only one – ha. I work in the area of tax and did a brief rotation in S. Korea so the meeting of Lee Yeon Jae and her advisors caught my attention. Based on that conversation, I too did not get the impression that she was all business ethical, but think it is still early and things can potentially evolve. Yes, from the get-go, LYJ doesn't seem to be going on the straight line. Isn't it contradictory with what LCJ's (husband-glorified hero) wish? But yes, too soon to tell for now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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