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I'm not at all surprise that they used those dirty tricks to get EunBo eliminated. The last stage at the marketplace must be one of their ruse to drag her away unnoticed. By THEY i mean the Queen Mother and its no secret that she wants SongYi to be the Queen.  I would have suspected her to have a hand in EunKi's death seeing that she was freaking out so much when she saw EunBo but why kill the king. She may not be the king's birth mother but its not like she has a prince of her own who will take the throne if LeeKyung dies.  Surprisingly YoungJi wasn't in on the tricks, she probably decided that her true love for the king would be enough to get her selected. 

 

6 hours ago, PororoQueen said:

I found Kim Song Yi's actress Lee Hwa Kyum has resemblance face with actress Yu In Young, even their voice and eyes..what do you think? *just for fun*

ahh yes i thought the same when she first appeared in the drama they could pass as sisters. Yu In Young she always plays a woman who gets rejected by the ML like in My Golden Life, Goodbye Mr Black, Empress Ki

 

 

 

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7 hours ago, LuciaM said:

4.3% Ep. 6 

 

IM SO HAPPY!! 

 

Same! So pleased for the QLAW actors and staff:lol: :blush::lol::blush::lol::blush::lol:

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From the Soompi article:

https://www.soompi.com/article/1375379wpp/queen-love-and-war-and-beautiful-love-wonderful-life-both-soar-to-highest-ratings-yet

The latest episode of “Queen: Love and War” scored an average rating of 4.3 percent nationwide and peaked at 5.2 percent in the Seoul metropolitan area, marking the first time that the drama managed to break the 4 percent barrier. Not only did the drama manage to hold onto first place in its time slot for the third consecutive week, but it also set a new personal ratings record in the process.

 

JSY just posted this awesome picture of Eun Bo and the girls through to the second round of the Selection::glasses:

 

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20 hours ago, Oksana Sutra said:

So how was 6th episode ? why this thread is so quiet l was waited any update but no one do not make any posts .

Episode Six was amazing! I was waiting for the English subs on Viki to be completed so I only managed to watch after midnight in my country so I haven't had time to post my thoughts yet.

 

Trailer for Episode Seven :

Love how everything is developing and coming together. Cannot wait!:w00t:

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In the beginning I don't know why Lee Jae Hwa accepts letting En Bo enter in the palace for the Queen's selection

bc it's a difficult and very dangerous task, she can be killed like her sister

if he likes her he shouldn't let her do that !

and I think...maybe he didn't know Gong Yi Su's daughter is his...........mysterious Lady!

and bingo ! it's exactly as I thought ....he didn't know !

Now, he knows and I'm sure he"'ll never let her do that !

he'll stop the selection no matter what bc he doesn't want Eun Bo will be in danger,

but the most, he doesn't want she'll become The King's woman !

So now, there's not only war between women but between men too  hahahaha !

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Yay, Our Beauty pageants for King Selection did compete!, and I'm sooo sooo proud to see this Lady Bang Ye Shil (the Lady who brought Soju for celebration) also passed the first round !!:D I can't imagine how sad her father would be if she indeed become the Queen (remember the scene from previous episode?) LOL

 

I love how the King now got confused with everything. He was surprised that he became a Shaman too...LOL

I can't wait to see the King's reaction knowing who WAL's lady boss is (Will he hate EunB0o?) .. knowing that his Queen is also running detective agency.

 

IMO the 2nd Prince Lee Jae Hwa is too slow *like a turtle*  in regards of romance. He's coming to the surface now that he's going to lose EunBo, I wish he won't become another Villain character of the siblings "battle for the throne".

 

 

23 hours ago, wizuwizu said:

Oh so that's who she reminded me of. I thought she looked like someone I've seen in other dramas. If I look at them side by side, they look different. But separately, yeah, there are definitely similarities (is it the lips?) 

 

Hehehe, yeah...lips and eyes, and their acting when they play a Mean girl :)

 

19 hours ago, imgreatgal said:

ahh yes i thought the same when she first appeared in the drama they could pass as sisters. Yu In Young she always plays a woman who gets rejected by the ML like in My Golden Life, Goodbye Mr Black, Empress Ki

Agree :)

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There're only 2 persons who can be the culprit who killed Eun Ki and Lee Kyung :

Lee Jae Hwa and Left Minister

I don't think Kim Minister

Lee jae Hwa wants killing the King even he doesn't know Eun Bo is his Lady !

And people who hide their identity as a clown like him is very dangerous

even Back Je Yong and Hong governor are shocked when they hear he wants killing the King !

Hope Eun Bo will discover his real face 

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1 hour ago, PororoQueen said:

I can't wait to see the King's reaction knowing who WAL's lady boss is (Will he hate EunB0o?) .. knowing that his Queen is also running detective agency.

The King might not be aware of this, but if I'm not mistaken Wal & EunBo (via their work as Buyong Agency) contributed to the attack on Kyung & EunKi, something to do with helping them acquire the guns? If so, then EunBo is going to feel so so guilty when she realised she played a hand, even unknowingly, in her sister's death.

 

 And ooohh the writer surprised me a little with how fast things are moving. I did not expect Kyung to know about JaeHwa being a hidden card and another threat already. I thought he'd only reveal himself later on. Definitely makes it more interesting, with both of them having to pretend in front of one another, guessing each others' moves.

 

And Queen Dowager. What exactly is she scheming? I thought she'd be 99% on Kyung's side, but throughout ep.05 and 06 it seemed like she's playing on her own side. She wanted to find the culprit, sure, but I feel like it's more because of the threat the person/group poses to the throne and her legacy, instead of to her grandson specifically.

 

I also love how in both ep.05 and 06 we got to see EunBo standing up for herself, where she could, especially with SongYi. I am generally tired of female lead in Korean dramas being written as "Oh I'm so helpless" and "Oh please help me, Mr. Hero". It's good to see EunBo as a more balanced character, not unrealistically badass and not completely spineless either.

 

3 hours ago, diane90 said:

Now, he knows and I'm sure he"'ll never let her do that !

he'll stop the selection no matter what bc he doesn't want Eun Bo will be in danger

I somehow doubt JaeHwa would do that. Instead, he's going to try his best to mar Kyung's image in EunBo's mind, make him look like the bad guy. Like he said, he's going to put the knife in her hand so she can kill the king on his behalf. But we'll see. Maybe he's going to have a change of hearts later on.

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While it looks like KimManChan and the Queen Mother was conspiring to have EunBo eliminated from the selection it doesn't seems so when KMC appeared ignorant of the fact that his man had kidnapped EunBo at the order of SongYi.  JoHeungGyeon on the other hand looks dangerous to me although he uses the more subtle approach. And what was JHG doing with the Theory of Enlightenment book? he was seen handing the book to one of the ministers.

 

I thought EunBo could have at least thanked LeeKyung/The King for saving her life, poor guy he looked dejected walking off leaving the guard to escort her back to the guest house. Well, i can't blame her since LeeKyung was depcited in a bad light thanks to BaekJaYoung.  

 

Meanwhile they added another mystery when the gunmen was kidnapped and killed and Wal was framed for it. I can only blame the king's guard for letting him slipped from their watch.

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Even the Queen Dowager support Lee Kuyng but she can't interfere in the selection

bc it makes people, especially the Ministers think that Eun Bo is the Queen coming back from death

it's not good for Eun Bo '  :

- primo : there will be bad rumours as she's goblin, getting bad luck for the country......the same when 

Lee Kyung woke up from the death .......

-deuxio : it'll make Eun Bo in danger, she'll be executed bc her father is a traitor, he is executed not

bc he escaped the prison but bc the book he writes Theory of Enlightenment, it's a treason!

So why, The Queen Dowager asks Eun Bo do not tell the King that she is the late Queen, she'll pass the 

selection as Hong Governer's daughter ! She thinks that Eun Bo is the late Queen so she wants protecting her

by not interfere !

You see when Lee Kyung asks Eun Bo why she wants returning to the Guest House after being kidnapped.

She said bc of him she's in danger, bc he looks at her, conders her as the last Queen......

Even she's not the late Queen, but if people know she's her twin..she'll be in danger too bc she is the

traitor's daughter.

So I don't know in the end how the writer can solve the problem of the book ?????

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New making video Lee Kung x Eun Bo:

 

The video was kindly subbed by lighthoney1610. Posted in the spoiler bar:heart:

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Short MV for Kyung x Eun Bo episodes 5-6:blush:

 

Cute KMK and JSY interaction on her latest IG post:blush::

Translation (courtesy of lighthoney1610):

 

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Finally have time to respond to everyone;'s great posts.  Sorry i had to spoiler a lot of your great posts because my post was getting too long :sweatingbullets:

On 1/5/2020 at 8:20 AM, PororoQueen said:

Happy New Year 2020 Chingus :D

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Nice episode 5.

- Interesting now the King has some kind of super power to see the future via his dream?? but only related to his Eun Ki. Well I do hope he can use it to protect her. Silly Eunuch Hwang , he made fun of King's dream.

- It is so funny when the minister talked about "What if Kang Yi Soo come back to life too?" Haha

- The King said there's something different with the new EunKi (EunBo) - their eyes; So I re watched episode 1, and yes ....the way EunKi's eyes gazed towards the King were very lovely, meanwhile EunBo's eyes are puzzling. Our King is so smart, I'm sure he will recognize soon that lady Hong Yeon candidate is not the ex-Queen and I hope the King will fall in love once more with the mischievous EunBo sooner. 

 

I found Kim Song Yi's actress Lee Hwa Kyum has resemblance face with actress Yu In Young, even their voice and eyes..what do you think? *just for fun*

 

 

A belated Happy New Year!:D

- Yes, Kyung's forecasting dreams are only related to Eun Bo. It's lucky he manage to save her this time but I feel like he could do more by hiring a bodyguard or a servant for her or bribing one of the Court Ladies to keep an eye on her.

- Eun Bo definitely looks at the king differently but I think that's just the difference in their personalities.  Eun Ki was a very proper, gentle Joseon maiden.  Eun Bo is bolder and braver.

- The Kim ministers are amusing.  I was laughing when they were complaining about Eun Bo in Episode 6 and one of the brothers was saying his brother should have done a better job with his daughter:lol::lol::lol:

- I noticed the Lee Ha Kyum and Yoo In Young resemblance too. Surprised to read she was an idol but she's great as villainous Kim Song Yi!

 

On 1/6/2020 at 9:58 AM, diane90 said:
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In the beginning I don't know why Lee Jae Hwa accepts letting En Bo enter in the palace for the Queen's selection

bc it's a difficult and very dangerous task, she can be killed like her sister

if he likes her he shouldn't let her do that !

and I think...maybe he didn't know Gong Yi Su's daughter is his...........mysterious Lady!

and bingo ! it's exactly as I thought ....he didn't know !

Now, he knows and I'm sure he"'ll never let her do that !

he'll stop the selection no matter what bc he doesn't want Eun Bo will be in danger,

but the most, he doesn't want she'll become The King's woman !

So now, there's not only war between women but between men too  hahahaha !

 

 

Indeed. Lee Jae Hwa didn't realise who she was until now.  It serves him right that his scheming has slapped him in the face. He didn't care about taking advantage of and manipulating a young girl for his plans before but because of his greed to be king he has lost the woman he loves to the king. There's no way he can stop the selection process now!

 

On 1/6/2020 at 11:14 AM, PororoQueen said:
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Yay, Our Beauty pageants for King Selection did compete!, and I'm sooo sooo proud to see this Lady Bang Ye Shil (the Lady who brought Soju for celebration) also passed the first round !!:D I can't imagine how sad her father would be if she indeed become the Queen (remember the scene from previous episode?) LOL

 

I love how the King now got confused with everything. He was surprised that he became a Shaman too...LOL

I can't wait to see the King's reaction knowing who WAL's lady boss is (Will he hate EunB0o?) .. knowing that his Queen is also running detective agency.

 

IMO the 2nd Prince Lee Jae Hwa is too slow *like a turtle*  in regards of romance. He's coming to the surface now that he's going to lose EunBo, I wish he won't become another Villain character of the siblings "battle for the throne".

 

 

- I like Ye Shil a lot!  She's so fun and kind!  And Dan Young (the poor candidate) is so sweet:D

- I can't imagine how the king is going to react to Wal's business partner and yet another mystery about his late Queen who claims she isn't his late Queen. I think it's interesting Kyung is questioning Wal about the woman at Buyong Agency.  Seems like he is intrigued by Eun Bo even when he can't see her;)

- I'm glad Lee Jae Hwa is going to realise next episode how he messed up with his scheming and Eun Bo is NEVER going to be his.  I hate how he is acting like he claimed her when Eun Bo definitely isn't interested in him like that.  He's too possessive and obsessive.

 

On 1/6/2020 at 11:17 AM, diane90 said:
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And people who hide their identity as a clown like him is very dangerous

even Back Je Yong and Hong governor are shocked when they hear he wants killing the King !

Hope Eun Bo will discover his real face 

 

 

I can't wait to find out her reaction to their true characters and that they are plotting to take over the throne. Eun Bo definitely didn't sign up for that!  I do wonder what revenge she plans to take against the King.  She wants justice for her family but she wasn't considering murder.

 

On 1/6/2020 at 1:19 PM, wizuwizu said:
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The King might not be aware of this, but if I'm not mistaken Wal & EunBo (via their work as Buyong Agency) contributed to the attack on Kyung & EunKi, something to do with helping them acquire the guns? If so, then EunBo is going to feel so so guilty when she realised she played a hand, even unknowingly, in her sister's death.

 

 And ooohh the writer surprised me a little with how fast things are moving. I did not expect Kyung to know about JaeHwa being a hidden card and another threat already. I thought he'd only reveal himself later on. Definitely makes it more interesting, with both of them having to pretend in front of one another, guessing each others' moves.

 

And Queen Dowager. What exactly is she scheming? I thought she'd be 99% on Kyung's side, but throughout ep.05 and 06 it seemed like she's playing on her own side. She wanted to find the culprit, sure, but I feel like it's more because of the threat the person/group poses to the throne and her legacy, instead of to her grandson specifically.

 

I also love how in both ep.05 and 06 we got to see EunBo standing up for herself, where she could, especially with SongYi. I am generally tired of female lead in Korean dramas being written as "Oh I'm so helpless" and "Oh please help me, Mr. Hero". It's good to see EunBo as a more balanced character, not unrealistically badass and not completely spineless either.

 

I somehow doubt JaeHwa would do that. Instead, he's going to try his best to mar Kyung's image in EunBo's mind, make him look like the bad guy. Like he said, he's going to put the knife in her hand so she can kill the king on his behalf. But we'll see. Maybe he's going to have a change of hearts later on.

 

 

- I agree it's a fast development about Lee Jae Hwa. I've seen some people say the drama is moving slowly but I think there has been a lot of development for just 6 episodes. I'm so glad the King now knows to be wary of Jae Hwa.  Meanwhile, Lee Jae Hwa has to keep playing the fool in front of him.  It will be interesting to see them interacting each other especially as the king is pretty perceptive and with LJH hiding his increasing animosity towards the King.

- I believe the Grand Royal Dowager loves her grandson, of course, but the preservation of the throne is of utmost importance too. I think she was indulgent towards Kyung's desires for the first selection which is why she picked Eun Ki.  However, I believe for this selection and with the culprits still at large she is thinking more  tactically and considering who would be the best candidate not just for Kyung - but for the throne overall.  Especially as Kyung has now given the Queen's family the right to battle.  The Grand Royal Dowager also doesn't seem to be a fan of the Queen Dowager and how small-minded and petty she is or how she favours her Kim clan. She definitely doesn't want Kyung to end up with a silly Queen like his mother.

- Yes about Eun Bo's character! I love how intelligent and capable Eun Bo is.  She is clearly intelligent, brave and thanks to her upbringing she has more common sense and street smarts than most heroines.  At the same time she isn't some unrealistically powerful, super ninja who can overpower men three times her size.  It's a good balance you don't see often enough in female leads.

- I agree LJH will try to mar the King's image in Eun Bo's mind.  I do think the Wal wrongful capture and torture might turn her against him for now.  But I don't see LJH's plan working in the long run when Eun Bo is spending time with the king and seeing his real personality.  You can already see in these past two episodes how she keeps thinking about the tender moments she has seen and how much he appears to love her sister. Definitely not lining up with the cruel, callous person she had built up to be in her mind. 

 

On 1/6/2020 at 3:24 PM, imgreatgal said:
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While it looks like KimManChan and the Queen Mother was conspiring to have EunBo eliminated from the selection it doesn't seems so when KMC appeared ignorant of the fact that his man had kidnapped EunBo at the order of SongYi.  JoHeungGyeon on the other hand looks dangerous to me although he uses the more subtle approach. And what was JHG doing with the Theory of Enlightenment book? he was seen handing the book to one of the ministers.

 

I thought EunBo could have at least thanked LeeKyung/The King for saving her life, poor guy he looked dejected walking off leaving the guard to escort her back to the guest house. Well, i can't blame her since LeeKyung was depcited in a bad light thanks to BaekJaYoung.  

 

Meanwhile they added another mystery when the gunmen was kidnapped and killed and Wal was framed for it. I can only blame the king's guard for letting him slipped from their watch.

 

 

- Jo Heung Gyeon gave the Theory of Enlightenment to one of the Kim ministers to plant in Eun Ki's quarters. The Kim clan framed Eun Ki and her father and paid the Court Lady to lie and say Kang Yi Soo was teaching Eun Ki about the book.  But now we saw in this episode that Jo Heung Gyeon was involved too as he provided the book.

- Poor Lee Kyung:tears: He's so hopeful every time they meet and every time Eun Bo breaks his heart even more LOL!:sweatingbullets: I get why she was angry at him because his continued special attention towards her IS making the selection process even harder for her.  However, I agree she could have been a bit nicer to him for personally saving her from being kidnapped and assaulted, maybe even raped with how the kidnapper was trying to untie her top.

- Who is that mysterious gunman? and what are those spine tattoos about?

 

On 1/6/2020 at 5:06 PM, diane90 said:
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Even the Queen Dowager support Lee Kuyng but she can't interfere in the selection

bc it makes people, especially the Ministers think that Eun Bo is the Queen coming back from death

it's not good for Eun Bo '  :

- primo : there will be bad rumours as she's goblin, getting bad luck for the country......the same when 

Lee Kyung woke up from the death .......

-deuxio : it'll make Eun Bo in danger, she'll be executed bc her father is a traitor, he is executed not

bc he escaped the prison but bc the book he writes Theory of Enlightenment, it's a treason!

So why, The Queen Dowager asks Eun Bo do not tell the King that she is the late Queen, she'll pass the 

selection as Hong Governer's daughter ! She thinks that Eun Bo is the late Queen so she wants protecting her

by not interfere !

You see when Lee Kyung asks Eun Bo why she wants returning to the Guest House after being kidnapped.

She said bc of him she's in danger, bc he looks at her, conders her as the last Queen......

Even she's not the late Queen, but if people know she's her twin..she'll be in danger too bc she is the

traitor's daughter.

So I don't know in the end how the writer can solve the problem of the book ?????

 

 

Good points.  I am curious how the writer is going to solve the many odds stacked against Eun Bo. I also wonder when we will learn more about the prophecy about twin girls which is the reason the twins had to hide their existence. Maybe when Eun Bo is reunited with her mother?

 

I think to a certain extent the Grand Royal Dowager is also testing Eun Bo to see if she is capable of surviving with so much against her. You need to be strong and smart to survive in the Palace and to support her husband, the king. You can see Kyung's grandmother was impressed when Eun Bo won the people's vote and that she managed to work out a deal with Kim Song Yi to save herself from elimination.

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4 hours ago, raziela said:

Jo Heung Gyeon gave the Theory of Enlightenment to one of the Kim ministers to plant in Eun Ki's quarters. The Kim clan framed Eun Ki and her father and paid the Court Lady to lie and say Kang Yi Soo was teaching Eun Ki about the book.  But now we saw in this episode that Jo Heung Gyeon was involved too as he provided the book.

JoHeungGyeon is a snake, we can't tell for sure what he is schemeing in the background. JHG planted the seed of doubt in BaekJaYong's mind when he told BaekJaYong the king is a hypocrite in pretending to save KangYiSoo but KYS was hanged in the end. What BaekJaYong didn't know was that KYS scarifies himself to save the king 's position. So maybe he was planning to plant the 'book' in EunBo's quarters

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The prince better not to go full psycho like the prince in Nokdu. 

 

I am glad EB is not written as a female lead who turns her other cheek after a slap. Her moment with Song Yi shows she does not play around. EB is a smart person. She will know if her father suppose bff is playing with her. 

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On 1/8/2020 at 7:41 AM, imgreatgal said:

JoHeungGyeon is a snake, we can't tell for sure what he is schemeing in the background. JHG planted the seed of doubt in BaekJaYong's mind when he told BaekJaYong the king is a hypocrite in pretending to save KangYiSoo but KYS was hanged in the end. What BaekJaYong didn't know was that KYS scarifies himself to save the king 's position. So maybe he was planning to plant the 'book' in EunBo's quarters

Snake is right.   He is very sly and cannot be trusted.  I think my main worry is Eun Bo doesn't trust the Kim clan but she doesn't seem to be quite as aware how dangerous JHG can be as he is much more lowkey and smart about covering his tracks.

 

13 hours ago, Agasshi said:

The prince better not to go full psycho like the prince in Nokdu. 

 

I am glad EB is not written as a female lead who turns her other cheek after a slap. Her moment with Song Yi shows she does not play around. EB is a smart person. She will know if her father suppose bff is playing with her. 

Funny you say that as I just finished watching Nokdu.  Kang Tae-oh was so good as Prince Neungyang

I also love that Eun Bo isn't one of those annoying goody goody heroines who lets people use her for target practice and makes it clear she i not to be trifled with.  So satisfying!

 

New stills for episode Seven 

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https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/609/0000230828

From the look on Eun Bo's face I think she lied to Kyung and pretended to be Eun Ki:tears:

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Hello. I'm new here, but I carefully read everything you wrote~

I need to say that I just love sageuks like this one. Even with some repetetive elements it's fresh bcs how actors and actresses act it out so I'm pretty much hooked xD.

Yes, I really like KMK voice also xD. It's really nice detail and these dimples xD.

SY is very very good. I'm glad she found her niche in kdrama land. Actually I really didn't like her like only 4 years ago but now I really like her in sageuks. I watched all her 3 last ones and she really improved as actress.

Thank you for your thoughts I missed out some points like that fox minister provided the book and some more.

I'm so hooked that I downloaded 1080 files from korean torrents and subs from Viki and made timing adjustments to rewatch it later once more xD.

I think Jae Hwa won't sacrifice their plans for love. And it become turning point for him.

Also I really want some happiness for our King he was happy only 3 min of 1st ep xD. It's so unfair T_T

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