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[Drama 2019-2020] Selection: The War Between Women, 간택 - 여인들의 전쟁

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12 hours ago, kdramafan1 said:

I like the twist in the story to the twin prophecy was misinterpreted as ominous.  The prophecy was fulfilled when KB, a twin brought the King who was supposedly dead back to life.  The reason behind the prophecy was that KB and the King were destined to be together  and the King's promise under the stars to help KB.  

Yes, I like how it all came full circle in episode 15 and the prophecy was re-interpreted in a positive way.  So sad to think of all the children who died because of it.

 

Great news the drama ended on a ratings high with 6.3% for 16% and is now the highest rated TVChosun drama ever. Very impressive for a small cable channel like TVC. Well done to the cast and staff for their hard work:lol:

“Queen: Love And War” Finale Breaks TV Chosun Ratings Record; “Tell Me What You Saw” Soars To All-Time High

Feb 10, 2020
by E. Cha
 

TV Chosun’s “Queen: Love and War” has ended with a bang!

On February 10, the series finale of the historical drama drew its highest viewership ratings yet, overtaking the hit 2018 drama “Grand Prince” to set a new record for the highest ratings ever achieved by any TV Chosun drama.

According to Nielsen Korea, the final episode of “Queen: Love and War” scored an average nationwide rating of 6.3 percent, breaking the previous record of 5.6 percent set by “Grand Prince.”

https://www.soompi.com/article/1382225wpp/queen-love-and-war-finale-breaks-tv-chosun-ratings-record-tell-me-what-you-saw-soars-to-all-time-high

 

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Just finished the finale and I feel very hollow. I was very glad that there was a happy ending, but I felt like they could've done so much more.

 

1) They showed Kim Man Chan and Young Ji, but nothing for Song Yi or Kyung's mom? After how snotty Song Yi has been the entire show I was really looking forward to seeing her live as a peasant, I imagine she wouldn't be handling it well. Same for his mom, not sure if she would've been forced to live as a peasant but seeing her in exile would've been really satisfying.

 

2) They made such a big deal about Kyung having the dreams and he gets over it by taking medicine for over a year? Felt like they should've done something more with that. I honestly thought Eun Bo would've had to kiss him or give him some of her energy or do a spell herself since she was a shaman for a time. Just something meaningful that connect her to Kyung's salvation.

 

3) Again, glad the pair was reunited and ultimately was a happy ending, but I feel so cheated about getting to see Eun Bo be given her proper place as queen. I thought Grandma was going to find Eun Bo herself and would've surprised Kyung at the selection and have Eun Bo there instead. They had a whole scene where Grandma tells him he needs a queen and that Eun Bo needs to stay away so how are we supposed to feel okay with the end without knowing she oks Eun Bo's return? Also wanted to see her reaction to the little prince. And I really, really, really wanted to finally see Eun Bo in the queen's hanbok. They had all this promo material of her in it, so how come we never get to see her in it? I was waiting for that the whole show

 

Overall I still really enjoyed the show and the OTP is one of the cutest couples in any kdrama I've ever seen. But the disappointments from the last 15 minutes of the show left me wanting more and it's sad knowing there's no episode next week that could deliver on my wishes.

 

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@Katrina Abdul Talib

 

"Where is this place if I may ask?"

 

The location will be mostly likely the Korean Peninsular Cape in Yeongwol County, Gangwon-do

 

For those who like to know, the King had sent his mother to Onyang Haenggung (residential palace or Royal Villa)  Onyang, Asan is famous for its hot spring which means that the King had sent his mother to her "retirement". It is about 90 km from Seoul

 

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I am so happy I watched this drama.

I loved the ending, it was beautiful.......but I honestly feel that this drama should have been at least 20 episodes. The ending where they alluded that their journey to acceptance would be longer...I am picturing battles in the palace. Given this drama is about the "Gantaek" and the "War between the women", THIS should be in the drama in my honest opinion. I am hoping for a second epilogue or season 2 but..

yeah..

 

But all the same , kudos to the cast and crew for building the chemistry between the characters and making us fall in love with them.

 

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11 hours ago, theedqueen said:
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Just finished the finale and I feel very hollow. I was very glad that there was a happy ending, but I felt like they could've done so much more.

 

1) They showed Kim Man Chan and Young Ji, but nothing for Song Yi or Kyung's mom? After how snotty Song Yi has been the entire show I was really looking forward to seeing her live as a peasant, I imagine she wouldn't be handling it well. Same for his mom, not sure if she would've been forced to live as a peasant but seeing her in exile would've been really satisfying.

 

2) They made such a big deal about Kyung having the dreams and he gets over it by taking medicine for over a year? Felt like they should've done something more with that. I honestly thought Eun Bo would've had to kiss him or give him some of her energy or do a spell herself since she was a shaman for a time. Just something meaningful that connect her to Kyung's salvation.

 

3) Again, glad the pair was reunited and ultimately was a happy ending, but I feel so cheated about getting to see Eun Bo be given her proper place as queen. I thought Grandma was going to find Eun Bo herself and would've surprised Kyung at the selection and have Eun Bo there instead. They had a whole scene where Grandma tells him he needs a queen and that Eun Bo needs to stay away so how are we supposed to feel okay with the end without knowing she oks Eun Bo's return? Also wanted to see her reaction to the little prince. And I really, really, really wanted to finally see Eun Bo in the queen's hanbok. They had all this promo material of her in it, so how come we never get to see her in it? I was waiting for that the whole show

 

Overall I still really enjoyed the show and the OTP is one of the cutest couples in any kdrama I've ever seen. But the disappointments from the last 15 minutes of the show left me wanting more and it's sad knowing there's no episode next week that could deliver on my wishes.

 

I agree 100% percent with what you're saying. I enjoyed the entire story but i felt cheated too at the end...i would love to have seen Kyung's grandmother accept his son. THAT would have been special...

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Love this drama.  But felt that they should add another 1 or 2 episodes to the ending, which is too abrupt.  There are missing gaps like How EnBo found her way to her mother, how she survive, and also giving birth to the little prince, what happen to Queen Mother and Consort Kim.  Also did En Bo finally brought back to the Palace as Queen, and Queen Dowager reaction when she found out about her grandson.   It wud be perfect ending instead of keep the audience to form their own conclusion. However overall I love this drama 100%, and the fantastic casts.  The chemistry with the 2 leads is just so lovely.  :grin:

 

 

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Finally had a chance to watch the subbed ending and agree with everyone else it was a very sweet, happy ending but it felt too rushed and there were many questions left unanswered ( I also didn't like how they made EB a complete damsel in distress in ep 16. What happened to her street smarts?<_<). Considering the title, the poster and the focus on becoming the Queen throughout the drama I can't help but feel cheated we never see Eun Bo have a proper Queen marriage ceremony or become Queen after she and Kyung have gone through so much to be together.  By the way JSY did a Q&A on her Instagram Story and fan said they were disappointed not to see her as Queen in the drama and it seems like she was a bit surprised about that too:lol:)

 

As others said I wanted to see so much more: their little family back in the Palace and Kyung and Eun Bo fighting to establish Eun Bo as Queen; Kyung and Eun Bo working together as King and Queen to create a better world as the drama hinted in the first half; what about the shaman saying Eun Bo has to stay away from Kyung, will his dreams return?; the Grand Royal Dowager meeting her gorgeous adorable baby great-grandson; more about Wal's background and if he ever found out his real name; Kyung being a doting daddy and husband, what happened to Kim Song Yi?; Wal, Hanmo and Eunuch Hwang interacting and making a fuss about the new very adorable baby Prince; Eun Bo's turmoil and bit of her struuggles after leaving the King.

 

According to one of the fans I follow there was a post on DC Gall that said the director actually wanted 18 episodes but the writer wanted to stick with 16 episodes.  I think the director was right and the writer made the wrong decision.  The writer is a rookie and you can definitely see the limitations in her writing in terms of pacing in these later episodes where she struggled to wrap up things properly and didn't' give enough focus to the leads.

 

I have thought for weeks that I think the drama would have been better off dropping the rebellion/Lee Je Hwa plotline. Do Sang Woo's acting was very good but the character was not developed adequately and the writer obviously struggled with this plot as the rebels were useless and all their plans mainly seemed to revolve around taking advantage of a teenage girl so they never seemed to like a real threat!  The antagonists could have been concentrated on the Kim clan and Jo clan and concentrated on more of the palace drama and infighting between the women. That would have created plenty of entertaining drama and conflict.  I also didn't really like the reliance of the plot on the dreams. I wanted to see Kyung use his smarts at the end! I get that the writer thought it necessary to create (yet another:rolleyes:) final conflict so Eun Bo stayed away from Kyung but then the shaman's words weren't really resolved so it seemed unnecessary.  I think the writer would have benefited from working with a more experienced co-writer, this drama should have had 2 -4 more episodes to better facilitate character/plot development, a bigger budget (because it was clear the budget was rather limited).  Lee Kyung and Eun Bo's chemistry was electric and beautiful and carried a lot of the show.  I will miss this couple and I would have liked to see more of their romance throughout the drama rather than a little too much focus on the supporting characters. 

 

Having said all that, I enjoyed this drama so much, it took over my weekends since December and I enjoyed it immensely. I was very impressed by the whole cast both the veterans and the younger actors. Thank you to the staff and the cast for all their hard work in the freezing cold weather.

 

@gerrytan8063Hello! Always great to see your wealth of knowledge in period dramas:)

 

I am still waiting for JSY and KMK's interviews.

Queen: Love and War was number 6 on the the most buzzworthy dramas over the past week which is excellent for a TV Chosun drama!buzzworthy-1.png

https://www.soompi.com/article/1382637wpp/crash-landing-on-you-scores-top-spots-on-lists-of-most-buzzworthy-dramas-and-actors

 

Good bye posts from the some of the actors:

Jin Se Yeon

Kim Min Kyu

 

Ahn Se Ha

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Lee Hwa Kyeom (Kim Song Yi)

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Do Sang Woo

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 Kim Bum jin (Han Mo)

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Lee Si Eon

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Glad that we got a happy ending plus a bonus ( baby Dam). However, like most of the kdrama, this show is no exception w/ the rushed ending. A bit disappointed that the promo poster was misleading. Can we get a special episode since Eunbo was not crowned Queen? It looks like WriterNim wants us to draw our own conclusions but I rather have it in action :blush:
 

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Seems everyone agrees that the story should have additional episodes, maybe 1 or 2 episodes to have a proper ending.   Provided the writer and director do a U turn to fill in all the missing gaps:expressionless:

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@emmaleigh @Kimac Agreed!  I wanted to see this unfold onscreen.  Not have to use my imagination.

 

Happy Birthday Jin Se Yeon!!!!!!

(she's my Queen even if the drama is going to make us imagine it rather than show us onscreen:P)

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Not sure why TVC are releasing this so late but a new making video was posted on Friday. The video is super cute and KMK is definitely hot daddy material.  He is so adorable with baby Lee Dam :love: The captions for the baby's thoughts are so funny too:lol:

Thank you very much to lighthoney1610 IG for the translation:heart:

 

Original video on Tv Chosun YouTube channel

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Final three making videos were released over the last week.  Lighthoney1610 has kindly subbed all of them on her IG and Youtube.  Watching the last two videos makes me emotional.  I will miss this drama:bawling:  i hope we can see JSY and KMK work together again! Thanks to everyone who worked on the drama and everyone who contributed to this thread:)

 

 

 

Original videos from the TV Chosun Youtube account in the spoiler bar:

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Queen: Love And War / Selection: The War Between Women OST (English Subbed) (Complete) | OST Playlist

 

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I started almost at the end of episode 5, by chance I ended up coming across a clip on Facebook and oooph instantly HOOKED! After watching 3 episodes I’ve decided I neeeed to go back and watch 1 to the beginning of 5! 

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https://ahjummamshies.wordpress.com/2020/02/16/queen-love-and-war-series-review/

Queen: Love and War | Series Review

 

It’s always a thrill to see new actors I support to finally land their debut lead role. And so, I went and watched Queen: Love and War without anything but my placard of support for Kim Min-kyu. And boy, I was surprised.

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A Familiar Plot

If you’ve watched other Korean period dramas involving a young king, then you’ll definitely be familiar with their selection process. The story of this series revolved around the Joseon tradition. The series also contained a revenge plot and extreme greedy politicking with some prophetic dreams added up for spice.

It was a simple love story between Kang Eun-bo (Jin Se-yun) and King Lee Kyung (Kim Min-kyu) but filled with multifarious hurdles.

The Royal Family and Its Complicated Kingdom

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Kim Min-kyu plays Lee Kyung a handsome and idealist Joseon king who genuinely wanted to reign for his people. But just like every good-hearted leader in the sageuk world, he was surrounded by power-hungry people – ministers and even his mom! [SPOILER ALERT] He died in the first episode. As someone, who didn’t watch any teasers nor read any news about this series, I was shocked watching that premiere episode. But it was indeed a set-up for Min-kyu’s character. The assassination attempt was what led him to have some prophetic dreams. These dreams helped him solved the murder case of Eun-bo’s twin sister and other problems in his kingdom.

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On 6/6/2020 at 12:31 PM, raziela said:

Thanks for posting!  It's an underrated drama.  Good to see it's an overall positive review:smiley:

 

 

I enjoyed that drama too. Became a fan of Jin se-yeon while watching it :D

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On 6/8/2020 at 4:05 AM, kmsl said:

 

I enjoyed that drama too. Became a fan of Jin se-yeon while watching it :D

:lol::blush::grin: Yay! Glad to hear it!

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After the mess that is Born Again, think i'm gonna watch this again while waiting for PBIO.

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51 minutes ago, RanP said:

After the mess that is Born Again, think i'm gonna watch this again while waiting for PBIO.

:lol::lol::lol:HaHa!  I just said in that other drama thread I'm going to pretend QLAW is JSY's last drama before she goes back to university instead of BA!

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47 minutes ago, raziela said:

:lol::lol::lol:HaHa!  I just said in that other drama thread I'm going to pretend QLAW is JSY's last drama before she goes back to university instead of BA!

 

oh i didn't know she does back to university after this? guess a good break is good after this.

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