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I am laughing so hard.....

 

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In the Romeo and Juliet side story, Juliet (WJ) decides to marry Romeo's dad (Chief Gwi) instead of Romeo (KB) and she tells him that she is now his mother just like Darth Vader told Luke Sywalker I am your father.  This is too funny for words.

 

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2 hours ago, fluffyloaf said:

And so far seems like the normal humans (who died) doing things in the afterlife are Chief Gwi and WJ? And it is out of getting them to redeem themselves for what they had done in past life right? They are not exactly considered a permanent resident in the afterlife right? Correct me if I am wrong, I have no understanding in these matters hahahaha.

 

Normal human beings, maybe.  But they do seem to have been given quite exalted positions after death and they haven't just been given an A or B or C reincarnation, so I think that their positions must have been superior in one way or another because of the tasks they have been given in the afterlife. 

 

WJ had special skills as a Dream Catcher, and when she died her curses caused the death of the Sacred Tree and 100,000 people.  Even if she reincarnated as an insect 100,000 times it would not have been enough.  Thus, she has to use her special skills to heal 100,000 grudges.  But we also know that she has one other thing to atone for, and it is the reason she has decided to walk the path that she is on now.  We don't know what that "other thing" is but I suspect that it is the death of her unborn child.

 

Chief Gwi was previously a demon catcher but now he serves as her helper.  Why?  It looks like he has a lot to make up for as well.  This is why I believe he was the crown prince that WJ loved.  The prince was the one who went to the war that cost 100,000 lives.  In any case, Gwi knows more than he is letting on.  When he listened to WJ talking about her lost love, you could almost watch Gwi's heart breaking.

 

Kang Bae has an extremely unusual fate because his link to the spiritual world is not closed.  Why?  He must need this link for some reason.  I think that the reason is that he is there to settle matters with his parents (WJ and Gwi) because he was made but never born in the past.  My guess:  he will be the case for the 100,000th grudge solved.

 

3 hours ago, fluffyloaf said:

her power is to creep people who touch her. Maybe that's the aura of a shaman hahahahah. It makes me wonder if her protective capability could have been what she had wished for prior to her rebirth? She seems like she might be useful to take down the evil spirit from 500 years ago.

 

I think you're right about her helping to take down the evil spirit but I don't think YR was WJ's shaman mother.  Instead, is it possible that she was the crown prince's mother?  A queen is someone who cannot be touched by commoners.  And this queen was someone who owes a debt to WJ, the crown prince, and their unborn child.

 

As to the evil spirit, he's obviously the prince's body guard.  What turned him evil?  Well, it looks like he may have killed WJ's mom.  And I wonder if he might also have been in love with WJ in the past--perhaps he was jealous of the prince.  The bodyguard did spend time with WJ because he was the one who walked her home from the palace every night and he was the one who helped the couple meet on the sly.

 

2 hours ago, sadthe1st said:

i'm assuming very simply that YR is a heaven's made for KB hahaha :lol: one who instills fear (creeps) in men and another who can make people reveal truths. when one leads his life with truthfulness, there is nothing to fear... so, they compliment each other :wub:

 

I like that.  They truly do complement one another.  But YR needs to stop listening to her nosy friend who is Not giving good advice.  YR's ego is hurt because of all the rejections and now it is hard for her to imagine that KB's caring is real.

 

2 hours ago, sadthe1st said:

ep7 had this scene where she got scolded by the Jade Emperor... but was relieved that even with a hell job (literally :D) she still has Samsin (ep6... the Fertility God) as her friend.. Samsin has been in that job for wayyy longer than WJ... @thistle if Yeomradaewang is really WJ's mom, at least we could expect something being revealed possibly through Samsin :lol:

 

It looks we will learn more about this.  Samsin was in the promo for episode 9 and WJ was threatening her (with a broom, if I recall properly) to find out who "Cinnabar" reincarnated into.  Who is Cinnabar?  Maybe it could be KB?

 

I was curious if the word Cinnabar was translated properly because it is a toxic mineral.  It used to be used as a paint pigment and red dye,  and it was even carved into jewelry but it's never used any more because it is dangerous.

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I have a theory and I just wanted to post it I think the crown prince is Chief Gwi and wol joo was pregnant with his child when she killed herself. Which is why she accepted the punishment given. I think Han Kang-bae is the unborn son. Dont know if it has already been posted. I have had the feeling from 4th episode which was about ancestors and kb said he was an orphan standing between those two

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22 minutes ago, Ketu R said:

I have a theory and I just wanted to post it I think the crown prince is Chief Gwi and wol joo was pregnant with his child when she killed herself. Which is why she accepted the punishment given. I think Han Kang-bae is the unborn son. Dont know if it has already been posted. I have had the feeling from 4th episode which was about ancestors and kb said he was an orphan standing between those two

 

I agree.  This is exactly what I think as well.  :)

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4 hours ago, thistle said:

I was curious if the word Cinnabar was translated properly because it is a toxic mineral.  It used to be used as a paint pigment and red dye,  and it was even carved into jewelry but it's never used any more because it is dangerous.

If I'm not mistaken, Cinnabar is also something that is used in chinese medicine. Although not 100% reliable source, when I look up the chinese term on Wikipedia, it says about 10% of chinese herbology contain small amounts of Cinnabar (if too much, it becomes extremely dangerous because of it's toxicity). Now something that was interesting while I was reading that page was that they mentioned that in ancient times, Cinnabar was considered to be able to ward off evil spirits and often used to make spiritual/shaman-esque items for this purpose. I think a lot of traditional Korean practices have some Chinese roots/influence to them, so it might not be far-fetched to assume it holds a similar representation for Koreans?

That said, what if the Cinnabar reincarnation that Wolju seems to be searching for in Ep9 is actually Yeo-Rin? That lines up with her "power" that makes people feel the creeps when they touch her (alludes to the toxic properties of the mineral). Her seemingly having an effect on Death in Ep4 can allude to "warding off evil spirits" (although I wouldn't really say Death is evil, but he basically represents the Underworld in a sense so it could be argued.). What do y'all think? 

 

edit : Also, wouldn't it be perfect timing to explore this possibility of Yeo-Rin being able to chase away spirits/ghosts in episode 9, since we saw in episode 8 that Kang-Bae is now able to see them and is terrified of them. 

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Just finished episode 8 and I didn't see that plot twist. I thought Cheif Yeom was just after the evil spirit because it was just part of his job. That explained his reaction when he saw his profile and why he knew the spirit would be around/following the Ssangab trio.

 

The moon gesture is confusing me as heck. How did Kang-bae knew that as well? Did Guibanjang told him? They're really going to do this guessing game huh. I thought we pretty much have a solid theory and we just have to wait for Weol-ju to find out.

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5 hours ago, Ketu R said:

I have a theory and I just wanted to post it I think the crown prince is Chief Gwi and wol joo was pregnant with his child when she killed herself. Which is why she accepted the punishment given. I think Han Kang-bae is the unborn son. Dont know if it has already been posted. I have had the feeling from 4th episode which was about ancestors and kb said he was an orphan standing between those two

I do believe that  

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18 hours ago, thistle said:

Currently watching episode 8.....or trying to

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my cats Frank and Dolly are hiding in the house because the electric company is clearing tree branches in my yard.....watching the episode at my dining table while Dolly is persistently climbing over the keyboard and Frank keeps trying to drink my mug of tea--he loves tea; it can't be good for him, and I want it myself darn it

Anyway, after being interrupted for the millionth time while watching, I decided to stop to share that YR is comparing KB to a fennec fox!  :wub:  Awwww!

I went, OMJiiiiiiiiiiiiii, Sungjae does look like one!

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they keep confusing us about who is the prince... but im pretty sure Gwi is, the way he adores Romeo's pure and true love towards Juliet. however, it seems that WJ has gone through enough to not believe in those things anymore, as she says Juliet is smart and realistic by choosing Romeo's father LOL

im looking forward seeing these two facing each other and solve all the misunderstandings

 

also Yeom bujang nim being Won hyung's father is so surpriseddd. but i dont think he's evil after all, he wants to project the trio from his son

"i will help you" from him towards his son is not actually he wants to help his son revenge the prince but he wants to set his son free from evil :(

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Is it possible that KB and YR are the reincarnations of the prince and WJ? The Goddess might let them (in present era) help themselves to finish their tasks in the past. Perhaps the last three souls they must lead to find inner peace are themselves and the prince’s friend who became evil spirit. 
 

The prince might be reborn once as Gwi, a former afterlife detective but because he has to correct his mistakes he did when he was the prince, The Goddess then sent him to help WJ To get repentance together
 

Just think........:)

 

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46 minutes ago, gongcha said:

they keep confusing us about who is the prince... but im pretty sure Gwi is, the way he adores Romeo's pure and true love towards Juliet. however, it seems that WJ has gone through enough to not believe in those things anymore, as she says Juliet is smart and realistic by choosing Romeo's father LOL

 

I felt like this was a give away!

 

Btw, both guibanjang and the crown prince used their left hand to do the gesture while Kang-bae used his right hand 

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4 hours ago, kmsl said:

 

I felt like this was a give away!

 

Btw, both guibanjang and the crown prince used their left hand to do the gesture while Kang-bae used his right hand 

I can't see how Kang Bae could be crown Prince especially when they have established this sort of mother-son dynamic there. They even poked fun at that during the romeo Juliet manhwa. I just can't...we will have to wait I guess. My hope is on Gwi. I think they are both sort of not over each other. Woel Joo said it out loud that she alternates between hating him, loving him and just wants to be free of that. So, I want a heart to heart between both of them before the end. 

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Just watched the latest episode, I am kind of confused with the ending of episode 8. Is she crying because she is afraid of her own feelings towards Chief Gwi, leaving Kang Bae all alone or frustrated about the past 500 years and being so close yet somewhat far from the 100,000 mark? Hahaha can someone bring me up to speed? I feel dense today hahahaha

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i have a feeling that KB might be the 100,000th person that WJ would need to help resolve his grievances.. and since KB knows how the dream realm work, he will reject and avoid her.

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5 hours ago, sadthe1st said:

i have a feeling that KB might be the 100,000th person that WJ would need to help resolve his grievances.. and since KB knows how the dream realm work, he will reject and avoid her.

 

 

We are still thinking the same way.  I came up with a similar theory yesterday.  :D

 

 

On 6/11/2020 at 12:53 PM, thistle said:

.....Kang Bae has an extremely unusual fate because his link to the spiritual world is not closed.  Why?  He must need this link for some reason.  I think that the reason is that he is there to settle matters with his parents (WJ and Gwi) because he was made but never born in the past.  My guess:  he will be the case for the 100,000th grudge solved.....

 

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Can they stretch this drama to 16 episodes? I am still stuck in the house.:relaxed:.  They could put KB on a hologram like Obi-wan Kenobi.

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Lots of interesting things happening in today's episode.  I'm no good at recapping, so I'll just offer some of the high points.  

 

Spoilers ahead!

 

  • It appears that the evil spirit has taken over the Grim Reaper's body so that he can get closer to Chief Gui and WJ, and he has been trying to make trouble between them and KB.
  • The prince had his bodyguard beheaded, and that's why he has become an evil spirit intending to destroy Chief Gui (whom I still believe to be the prince) and WJ.
  • The door to the spirit world that WJ needs to use to help KB is closed because she welded it shut years ago to help heal a mother's grudge by stopping her child from becoming an important priest (he would have saved many people but WJ didn't know this) so now there are consequences..  Now WJ can't keep her promise to KB and is desperate to find a way to help him. 
  • WJ appeals to Samsin for help but there is only so much help she can give.  She tells WJ that KB is completely yin so in order to close KB's connection to the spirit world, he needs a true love's kiss from a person who is completely yang.  That person is the one who has reincarnated from Cinnabar.  But she cannot tell WJ who that person is.
  • It looks like YR must be the reincarnation of the sacred stone Cinnabar which repels people but also has the power to heal (I'm guessing that the latter will be important later).
  • WJ signs a contract to give up her chance of re-incarnation so that she can help KB.  She will go the hell of extinction in order to find out who Cinnabar is.
  • WJ has been healing the 100,00 grudges to save the soul of her unborn child who would have been doomed to live 100,000 dreadful lives because WJ had hung herself from the Sacred Tree.  The reason that WJ is so drawn to helping children is because she never got to see her own child.
  • At the end of the episode we saw a new arrival who appears to be the reincarnation of the queen who hired WJ to heal the prince's dreams and who destroyed WJ's life afterward.
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14 minutes ago, thistle said:

 

Lots of interesting things happening in today's episode.  I'm no good at recapping, so I'll just offer some of the high points.  

 

Spoilers ahead!

 

  • It appears that the evil spirit has taken over the Grim Reaper's body so that he can get closer to Chief Gui and WJ, and he has been trying to make trouble between them and KB.
  • The prince had his bodyguard beheaded, and that's why he has become an evil spirit intending to destroy Chief Gui (whom I still believe to be the prince) and WJ.
  • The door to the spirit world that WJ needs to use to help KB is closed because she welded it shut years ago to help heal a mother's grudge by stopping her child from becoming an important priest (he would have saved many people but WJ didn't know this) so now there are consequences..  Now WJ can't keep her promise to KB and is desperate to find a way to help him. 
  • WJ appeals to Samsin for help but there is only so much help she can give.  She tells WJ that KB is completely yin so in order to close KB's connection to the spirit world, he needs a true love's kiss from a person who is completely yang.  That person is the one who has reincarnated from Cinnabar.  But she cannot tell WJ who that person is.
  • It looks like YR must be the reincarnation of the sacred stone Cinnabar which repels people but also has the power to heal (I'm guessing that the latter will be important later).
  • WJ signs a contract to give up her chance of re-incarnation so that she can help KB.  She will go the hell of extinction in order to find out who Cinnabar is.
  • WJ has been healing the 100,00 grudges to save the soul of her unborn child who would have been doomed to live 100,000 dreadful lives because WJ had hung herself from the Sacred Tree.  The reason that WJ is so drawn to helping children is because she never got to see her own child.
  • At the end of the episode we saw a new arrival who appears to be the reincarnation of the queen who hired WJ to heal the prince's dreams and who destroyed WJ's life afterward.

 

Whoa sounds like a lot is happening and things are amping up! I really like how YR is made for KB hahahaha!

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