[OFFICIAL] Hyun Bin ❤️ Son Ye Jin (BinJin Couple)

[kookiecake]

Reading through the last few pages, whew! What a rollercoaster of emotions!  Being a shipper can consume your heart, that whatever positive pops, you'd take every grain to satisfy the dreams for our couple. Shipping may not even equal to investing in stocks or money in the bank, wherein you study every curve or motion to protect your yield and even gain more. Truth is, time and effort are what you invest in this ship to sail, main fuel to the engine, and those are hardest to get back. Trust me, this shipping experience will let you learn how to hold on to something that's so mysterious yet so exciting. We may not even agree with others opinion, but it does open our minds to many possibilities. 

 

The most beautiful feeling after such a long, tedious journey is to actually dock in its perfect destination. How? Well, we keep going. Until when? That has to be unraveled when it is time. For now, we keep the present. We nurture it, we make more friends, we support BinJin, we can keep some or even more receipts, but we don't fight others that hurt our dreams. We make them believe why we are all here. Even better to just ignore them.

 

In its entirety, HB and SYJ are a masterpiece. We are willing audiences that chose to support and love them with all our heart, as manifested by the Popularity Award. I strongly believe they let us peak into their world so we can appreciate their hardwork and a fraction of their relationship. 

 

Please shippers, we are kind to our humble paradise. Let the non-believers show their own way out. 

 

PS: 

Oh! Just incase our handsome guest happens to browse this page. 

Hi KTP! Please send our warmest hello to SYJ!  

[golding]

39 minutes ago, ElectricHearts said:

 

They referring to the one from 2018. Past is the past for a reason people! lol

 

Also we know everything HB is doing now with his endorsements and CFs are hints to the "future" and "home life" lol. Same like SYJ.

ok, the post qouted " the recent award" so i am wondering oh? ...i dont know how to say this with out offending anyone like " how many individuals cannot really understand the terms "social distancing" ,, as the awards night requires to..expecting the two doing something with deeper intimacy?  with a lot of explanations here , seems they hardly get it..

yet, Hyun Bin & Son ye Jin are the 'TURNING HEADS" that night..they are always the hot topic win or not the major awards thyre both nominated..

 

[sussieh]

10 hours ago, loveintheair said:

I told ya. Couple goals!!!

Destiny or Coincidence? Hahaha

I am liking the word « Ralph » more each time... grocery shopping at Ralph, mentioning Ralph in CLoY (checking the trending words/ hospital scene), dressed with Ralph...  
 

Ralph is becoming a distinctive name for this beautiful OTP hahaha destiny or coincidence? I will say it’s DESTINY! 

[Kelly 5]

I don't know why ...bt everywhere m reading about them being in. A special relationship earlier...but have broken up....and their cold behavior yesterday has given d hint......oh....it's paining on reading ....hope to be proved wrong

[Kelly 5]

I don't know why ...bt everywhere m reading about them being in. A special relationship earlier...but have broken up....and their cold behavior yesterday has given d hint......oh....it's paining on reading ....hope to be proved wrong

[binyeji]

39 minutes ago, kookiecake said:

Oh! Just incase our handsome guest happens to browse this page. 

Hi KTP! Please send our warmest hello to SYJ! 

 

How do you know it's KTP browsing? 

SYJ must be the one browsing and giving all the info to him, she's confessed to it.

[sussieh]

10 hours ago, Onewaytrain said:

But I THINK there might be some pre-hints about him not winning the award hence he look abit sad

@cocolada @Onewaytrain In my opinion, he wasn’t sad or disappointed because of not winning. The nominees were all really great, same with actresses. He knew it.

 

As his fan, what I felt and perceived (from his speeches and reactions while looking the children’s performance), he was serious and affected because all this Covid situation.
 

He (and also SYJ) were clearly very touched with all of our efforts. Despite all of us having to face in real life this horrible pandemic, we made them win, putting all efforts with app, despite our real life struggles during this pandemic.

[TotoroSY]

1 hour ago, Milwij Corner said:

Sorry for say this. But suddenly in my ig timeline I see another shipper account from SITR drama. They post pic of injin couple when the last award. It makes me sad, when I see how both handling hands,intimate and seems so happy each other on stage. It really breaks my heart why HB couldn't as warm as hae in, I try hard to be positive but can't lie to myself that I'm really sad right now. 

 

Hi, I noticed you posted the same concern about this in early May. Are you sure you are really shipping Binjin? If yes, then you need to not be easily swayed. If not, then you may want to spend time at another thread or forum.

 

 

[kookiecake]

@binyeji Oh, so she could be our middlewoman then!     Ugh! These two. How far along are we to the destination? We can only guess. 

[TotoroSY]

On 5/7/2020 at 11:34 PM, Milwij Corner said:

Hello binjin's shipper. I'm glad to hear the latest good news from binjin couple. I hope they're ended up together and announce their marriage soon. But I've just seen the press con of SITR in my instagram timeline and suddenly my feelings become jealous and uncomfortable when JHI and SYJ look intimate with hands holding each other. Does she always get along with her co-star? They had a good chemistry in SITR and looks like they're in a relationship. Can anyone convince me if they didn't have any relationship? 

 

Here's your post way back in May. Looks the same or similar as the recent one. Perhaps you should mute words in your social media account so that JHI does not appear so that you don't feel all these "doubts" again? Just some friendly advise. Don't want you to be feeling sad all the time.

 

[2Riornot2Ri]

Hi all, 

 

I was introduced to CLOY January of this year, and was instantly hooked and binged watched all available episodes and eagerly awaited every weekend when new episodes are released. This is the first Kdrama i have watched; while i initially got curious because of the unique NK storyline, and upon watching i found alot of positives in the drama (those OSTs are amazing!), what kept me interested the most is the strong chemistry and immersive acting of the BinJin couple. This made me want to know more about them after the drama ended, which led me to the Soompi CLOY thread, and eventually this BinJin shipping thread. I didn’t really care about celebrities before, and yet here i am shipping my first ever celebrity couple.

 

Decided to delurk since i found recent events on BinJin and the discussions here quite interesting, and thought to offer a male perspective (yes, i am a guy, this is my secret life and not even my wife knows that i am a closet BinJin shipper lol).

 

Firstly, on CLOY not winning what we think they deserve in BAA, i think politics is likely an important factor, given recent escalation in tensions around the same time the BAA nominees were announced and judges were making their decision. Even within SK there was negative press related to this when the drama was announced and a threat of lawsuit when it was airing. This is not to take away from the winners, even if i have not watched those dramas, i am sure they also delivered great performances since they were also nominated, but if you were the BAA judges, would you want to potentially be the cause a new round of political tensions by giving CLOY high profile awards that will surely have global media attention given the drama’s popularity? In a tight race with tough and almost equally deserving competition, a concern like this could be the deciding factor to tip the vote in favor of the other contenders. In hindsight, it makes me wonder if the writer had not openly called the countries NK and SK, and instead used fictional country names maybe this could have been avoided (in a western political drama i watched before, they had one episode where the plot was about the conflict between fictional countries they called East and West Honshu, but if you read between the lines, you can tell it is about NK/SK). Anyway, what is done is done, maybe CLOY had to be sacrificed for the greater good of peace and political stability, and nomination is the best it could have gotten under the circumstances. Regardless what happened at BAA, the validation from fans globally which none of the other nominees can match is enough proof that CLOY and its cast are winners. From a professional perspective, BinJin are clearly winners, their brilliant performance in CLOY has earned for them a global fanbase which will only help their future career prospects.

 

Back to BinJin, it was very clear to me with the grocery incident there is something going on between them. As a guy, i will not fly halfway across the world to meet just a mere acquaintance, and even a close friend there has to be a really valid reason, for example if that close friend has already migrated to that country. It makes no sense to me for Bin to go that far away, waste so much time and energy on flight and have to deal with jetlag, to meet someone who he can more easily meet up with in their own country. And they met there not even for sightseeing, but grocery shopping?! This tells me that clearly at the time, Bin has romantic intentions pursuing Jin, and she is open to his advances to agree to meet him. That it happened around the time and likely for the celebration of an important occassion (her birthday) with rumors of a lunch with Jin’s family gives added weight to it and tells me Jin has strong interest too; if you went to the trouble of going so far away to have alone time on your birthday to spend with family, why then would you entertain meeting someone who is just a normal friend, when you can do so after you return from your trip, in your own country? Their agencies also did not know how to deny at first and had to check back with BinJin on what to say when the clear as day grocery photos were released, after initially conifidently denying the rumored lunch with Jin’s family. Put the puzzle pieces together and you can tell this is more than likely a pre-planned secret romantic meetup between mutually interested parties to celebrate a special occassion.

 

Now the grocery incident happened a few years back, from then things could have progressed, or it could also have stalled. So you look at what were the developments since then, and while alot has happened and would be too much to talk about in just one post, I would like to fast forward to recent events because ultimately thats what we would want to know, is the ship still sailing at this moment? 

1. Metro interview - alot has been said of this, but the fact that Bin voluntarily brought up Jin in a question that was about this own physical appearance, and with that facial expression, tells me he clearly still has Jin in his thoughts at all times. I catch myself having that same reminiscing smile when i am reminded of special moments shared with my girlfriend (now my wife) when we were dating, so i can relate with what was going on there with Bin. Questions were obviously pre-screened, but we dont know if just by V employees or Bin himself, but either way it gives him away. If it was screened by Bin himself, then he chose to include the question, and his pre-prepared answer needlessly included Jin; if it was just screened by V employee, i pity the poor V employee who could not have known that such a seemingly innocent question could trip up the boss into remembering an event 2 years ago and answer that way, revealing to all that Jin continue to be his top of mind.
2. Pifan vs BAA comparison - this is specifically on how Bin acted towards Jin in these events. In Pifan, he didn’t know her personally yet, so his actions were just being polite, how a typical gentleman would act towards most women - while he went ahead towards the stage, but he looked back to check if she was ok, and let her give her speech first. In BAA, his actions towards Jin were extra attentive and protective, letting her walk ahead, but surveying the situation ahead and making sure to be nearby when he saw potential hazards like wires, him watching her steps, etc. This is the exact same thing i do for my girlfriend/wife, kids, parents, i.e. for those people i deeply care about, so seeing the contrast in his approach, but for the same person, is quite telling of the change in Bin’s mindset towards Jin now. And when a guy does this for a lady he likes, it is also a way of warding off competition and letting it be known that this is my girl so you other guys back off lol
3. Joint acceptance of individual popularity awards - reading the english translation of their speeches, you can tell it was coordinated such that Bin and Jin each gave bits and pieces to complete an overall message. Bin brought up CLOY, while Jin is the one who called out co-actors/actress and director of the drama. Bin expressed thanks to fans for their efforts voting for them, and Jin made sure to highlight that includes both Korean and international fans. Bin offered the information they are aware of all the effort fans did on their computers and cellphones, and Jin shared they were also monitoring the developments everyday together with the fans. Bin made sure to also express his well wishes for Everyone dealing with Covid, and they both promised to repay fans with future roles and better acting. They covered all important messages without being repetitive through their combined couple speech. Then backstage even if they didnt need to, they still interviewed together, posed close together sharing just 1 trophy, and repeatedly mention “we” in their speech. Clearly they approached this as a couple award even if it is not, because they knew fans delivered it to them as a couple award, and to me it is telling particularly for Jin that she knows about it, and is ok with it, despite being known to be protective of her reputation and avoiding dating “scandals”.
4. Color Coordinated Outfits - Jin wanted to wear gold, now Bin’s stylist has to find a color that goes well with that, and hence the navy blue tux, an interesting choice when other men were wearing black (i am sure most ladies here already know, but if you do a quick google search of the best companion colors for gold, you will find dark blue is one of the top choices). Why is this important? If i were not in good terms with someone, or i dont want to fuel further couple speculations to avoid dating “scandals”, i will surely not coordinate colors to make us look even better as a couple, knowing that we will be on stage to receive an award together.

As you can tell from above, Bin’s giveaways from recent events are much more direct (he has always been the more obvious one), while Jin’s are a bit more nuanced, more of indirect confirmation - she indirectly confirms she continues to be interested (at least) by not doing actions that confirm she is not interested. Jin herself said that she is aware and was monitoring social media posts on Tiktok voting, which means she is definitely also aware of all the BinJin shipping going on in social media. If its untrue they are in a relationship she would want to put a stop to that, so why continue to encourage that narrative of being a couple by doing couple speeches and posing as a couple for an individual award, and wearing coordinated outfits that make them even more shippable as a couple? Jin herself said that she would like to get married by 40yrs old which is just a couple years away, if she does not see a future with Bin, why continue to allow herself to be romantically linked to him, and thus discourage other potential suitors and lose time, when she could easily put a stop to it by personally issuing a denial they are dating, which she had no problem doing for other men linked to her in the past? And please, saying they laughed the rumors off, or that they were not holding hands under the table, or that they were only meeting with other friends in LA, these are just misdirection and far from being actual denials of dating. When grocery shopping happened it confirmed for me that there is at the very least mutual interest, it has been 3 years since and while Bin is still an open book, I daresay Jin can’t still be just at “interested” stage given her self declared timeline and they are likely much further along their relationship by now.

 

On BinJin being “cold” to each other in BAA, that never crossed my mind when i was watching. I saw what i expected to see, which is BinJin acting prim and proper in an event where they should act prim and proper. It would be unbecoming of them to cause a scene by openly flirting and blatantly displaying affection, in an event meant to celebrate the acting profession of all the attendees, amidst the somber backdrop of Covid and social distancing. They cannot just hijack BAA and turn it into their own engagement party, knowing what the event is about and knowing how much hype there is on them already that could overshadow everyone else if they are not careful. Their effort to deflect attention away from themselves show that they are sensible and socially aware human beings and is commendable, it is quite surprising to me that it got twisted by some into a negative narrative.

 

In fact, for me part of the fun while watching a show i could not understand a word of what they were saying, was catching those little moments when BinJin let their guard down a bit, because despite their best attempts, they also can’t help it and still give away bits of affection here and there. Bin is much better at it now than before, i guess he is learning after seeing all the videos online of how he gives it away all the time, but he still needs more practice! I mean you can literally see him consciously catching himself staring at Jin again, and instantly switch back to serious mode and look robotically straight ahead at the camera. At least now he is able to correct himself and not need Jin to nudge him back to his senses, so thats an improvement lol.

 

Whew, a long essay for my first post. In summary, with Bin you look at what he does, but with Jin you look at what she does not do. From what i saw and didn’t see on the recent events, ship is sailing steady! They will reveal what they want to reveal at the time that is right for them, which is how it should be because it is their personal lives and relationship that is at stake.

Edited June 6, 2020 by 2Riornot2Ri

[Kasie287]

Some people just simply joined to show their pathetic theories. If you don't think BJ is for real or at least wish them to be, just leave this thread. We do not have room nor time for negativity since we all busy shipping this vessel to berth 

[Wendybe]

Love that moment when HB said « we » while tilting his head toward SYJ who was smiling timidly. 
Oh my heart! 

[Seri2020]

13 hours ago, Milwij Corner said:

Thanks for your response. they were also rumored to be dating after SITR but they don't look awkward in front of the camera. they still look close and don't care about rumors. but I try not to be disappointed because it affects my mood to do my daily activities

This is what friend zone is.. 2 yrs fixing her make up beside him 

You can tell the difference from her IG posts... the reasons I’m onboard the BinJin ship 

 

[binyeji]

15 minutes ago, 2Riornot2Ri said:

 

Back to BinJin, it was very clear to me with the grocery incident there is something going on between them. As a guy, i will not fly halfway across the world to meet just a mere acquaintance, and even a close friend there has to be a really valid reason, for example if that close friend has already migrated to that country. It makes no sense to me for Bin to go that far away, waste so much time and energy on flight and have to deal with jetlag, to meet someone who he can more easily meet up with in their own country. And they met there not even for sightseeing, but grocery shopping?! This tells me that clearly at the time, Bin has romantic intentions pursuing Jin, and she is open to his advances to agree to meet him. That it happened around the time and likely for the celebration of an important occassion (her birthday) with rumors of a lunch with Jin’s family gives added weight to it and tells me Jin has strong interest too; if you went to the trouble of going so far away to have alone time on your birthday to spend with family, why then would you entertain meeting someone who is just a normal friend, when you can do so after you return from your trip, in your own country? Their agencies also did not know how to deny at first and had to check back with BinJin on what to say when the clear as day grocery photos were released, after initially conifidently denying the rumored lunch with Jin’s family. Put the puzzle pieces together and you can tell this is more than likely a pre-planned secret romantic meetup between mutually interested parties to celebrate a special occassion.

 

Now the grocery incident happened a few years back, from then things could have progressed, or it could also have stalled. So you look at what were the developments since then, and while alot has happened and would be too much to talk about in just one post, I would like to fast forward to recent events because ultimately thats what we would want to know, is the ship still sailing at this moment? 

1. Metro interview - alot has been said of this, but the fact that Bin voluntarily brought up Jin in a question that was about this own physical appearance, and with that facial expression, tells me he clearly still has Jin in his thoughts at all times. I catch myself having that same reminiscing smile when i am reminded of special moments shared with my girlfriend (now my wife) when we were dating, so i can relate with what was going on there with Bin. Questions were obviously pre-screened, but we dont know if just by V employees or Bin himself, but either way it gives him away. If it was screened by Bin himself, then he chose to include the question, and his pre-prepared answer needlessly included Jin; if it was just screened by V employee, i pity the poor V employee who could not have known that such a seemingly innocent question could trip up the boss into remembering an event 2 years ago and answer that way, revealing to all that Jin continue to be his top of mind.
2. Pifan vs BAA comparison - this is specifically on how Bin acted towards Jin in these events. In Pifan, he didn’t know her personally yet, so his actions were just being polite, how a typical gentleman would act towards most women - while he went ahead towards the stage, but he looked back to check if she was ok, and let her give her speech first. In BAA, his actions towards Jin were extra attentive and protective, letting her walk ahead, but surveying the situation ahead and making sure to be nearby when he saw potential hazards like wires, him watching her steps, etc. This is the exact same thing i do for my girlfriend/wife, kids, parents, i.e. for those people i deeply care about, so seeing the contrast in his approach, but for the same person, is quite telling of the change in Bin’s mindset towards Jin now. And when a guy does this for a lady he likes, it is also a way of warding off competition and letting it be known that this is my girl so you other guys back off lol
3. Joint acceptance of individual popularity awards - reading the english translation of their speeches, you can tell it was coordinated such that Bin and Jin each gave bits and pieces to complete an overall message. Bin brought up CLOY, while Jin is the one who called out co-actors/actress and director of the drama. Bin expressed thanks to fans for their efforts voting for them, and Jin made sure to highlight that includes both Korean and international fans. Bin offered the information they are aware of all the effort fans did on their computers and cellphones, and Jin shared they were also monitoring the developments everyday together with the fans. Bin made sure to also express his well wishes for Everyone dealing with Covid, and they both promised to repay fans with future roles and better acting. They covered all important messages without being repetitive through their combined couple speech. Then backstage even if they didnt need to, they still interviewed together, posed close together sharing just 1 trophy, and repeatedly mention “we” in their speech. Clearly they approached this as a couple award even if it is not, because they knew fans delivered it to them as a couple award, and to me it is telling particularly for Jin that she knows about it, and is ok with it, despite being known to be protective of her reputation and avoiding dating “scandals”.
4. Color Coordinated Outfits - Jin wanted to wear gold, now Bin’s stylist has to find a color that goes well with that, and hence the navy blue tux, an interesting choice when other men were wearing black (i am sure most ladies here already know, but if you do a quick google search of the best companion colors for gold, you will find dark blue is one of the top choices). Why is this important? If i were not in good terms with someone, or i dont want to fuel further couple speculations to avoid dating “scandals”, i will surely not coordinate colors to make us look even better as a couple, knowing that we will be on stage to receive an award together.

As you can tell from above, Bin’s giveaways from recent events are much more direct (he has always been the more obvious one), while Jin’s are a bit more nuanced, more of indirect confirmation - she indirectly confirms she continues to be interested (at least) by not doing actions that confirm she is not interested. Jin herself said that she is aware and was monitoring social media posts on Tiktok voting, which means she is definitely also aware of all the BinJin shipping going on in social media. If its untrue they are in a relationship she would want to put a stop to that, so why continue to encourage that narrative of being a couple by doing couple speeches and posing as a couple for an individual award, and wearing coordinated outfits that make them even more shippable as a couple? Jin herself said that she would like to get married by 40yrs old which is just a couple years away, if she does not see a future with Bin, why continue to allow herself to be romantically linked to him, and thus discourage other potential suitors and lose time, when she could easily put a stop to it by personally issuing a denial they are dating, which she had no problem doing for other men linked to her in the past? And please, saying they laughed the rumors off, or that they were not holding hands under the table, or that they were only meeting with other friends in LA, these are just misdirection and far from being actual denials of dating. When grocery shopping happened it confirmed for me that there is at the very least mutual interest, it has been 3 years since and while Bin is still an open book, I daresay Jin can’t still be just at “interested” stage given her self declared timeline and they are likely much further along their relationship by now.

 

 

 

@2Riornot2Ri 

 

Awesome post, sir. Really enjoyed reading your analysis and you said it right and clear. Hope it gives a good perspective to all the naysayers. 

 

Welcome to ship. Look forward to reading more of your posts. 

 

[mai_panda1022]

i just want to say hello to everyone, I'm one of the silent reader.

 

thank you for the updates

 

be healthy and be safe 

Edited June 6, 2020 by mai_panda1022

[binyeji]

11 minutes ago, Seri2020 said:

friend zone is.. 2 yrs fixing her make up beside him 

 

 

True. I noticed this too. She chats with him like I would with my best male friend. She clearly considers him like a younger brother. 

[BinJin2020]

I find this so funny. To me it looks like he’s trying SOOOOOOOO hard not to look at her. Didn’t succeed all that much either based on vids. 
 

HB: I’m not going to look at her. I’m not going to look. NOT going to. HB, you can do this. Be cool.
Whoops, almost did, where else should I look? 
Whoops, almost did again, I really should turn my head this way...

No wonder he looked tired and stressed. All that inner turmoil. Self control must be hard beside SYJ? 

 

 

 

[TotoroSY]

27 minutes ago, 2Riornot2Ri said:

• Joint acceptance of individual popularity awards - reading the english translation of their speeches, you can tell it was coordinated such that Bin and Jin each gave bits and pieces to complete an overall message. Bin brought up CLOY, while Jin is the one who called out co-actors/actress and director of the drama. Bin expressed thanks to fans for their efforts voting for them, and Jin made sure to highlight that includes both Korean and international fans. Bin offered the information they are aware of all the effort fans did on their computers and cellphones, and Jin shared they were also monitoring the developments everyday together with the fans. Bin made sure to also express his well wishes for Everyone dealing with Covid, and they both promised to repay fans with future roles and better acting. They covered all important messages without being repetitive through their combined couple speech. Then backstage even if they didnt need to, they still interviewed together, posed close together sharing just 1 trophy, and repeatedly mention “we” in their speech. Clearly they approached this as a couple award even if it is not, because they knew fans delivered it to them as a couple award, and to me it is telling particularly for Jin that she knows about it, and is ok with it, despite being known to be protective of her reputation and avoiding dating “scandals”.
• Color Coordinated Outfits

 

Enjoyed reading your analysis of Binjin. Very sound and very rational! Esp love how you described the speeches, that both their speeches on stage and back stage, are like 2 puzzles fitted into one. They most likely have planned and coordinated it. Esp since they have declared in the speech that they know about how fans voted for them, which means they knew about the high possibility of the award. There were no repeats of important points, just a smooth flow of speech from HB to YJ (on stage) and then from YJ to HB (backstage). Perfect coordination!!

 

Their coordinated outfit from the same designer Ralph Lauren, was such a great candy thrown at fans! One that we discovered later, after the sleuth fans have done a thorough investigation.   Plus both their stylists posted on Insta account not just their solo pictures but their couple Baeksang picture in that coordinated outfit. More candies!!! I am quite stuffed right now with Sugar Rush!

 

19 minutes ago, Seri2020 said:

This is what friend zone is.. 2 yrs fixing her make up beside him 

You can tell the difference from her IG posts.. the reasons I got on board the BinJin ship 

 

 

 Perfect reply!! Love it!!

 

 

 

[Walk Kindly]

For my respect to your BINJIN name..

 

The fact that based on your perspective 

 

19 hours ago, BinJin_Netherlands said:

With facts I mean the most recent facts

 

"I watched the whole show today and I really feel like something is a bit ''off'' (I've seen all of their previous video's/interviews etc). I feel their behaviour was quite unusual, especially Hyun Bin seemed very aloof.. For example, when SYJ was a bit confused which way to get up the stage, his face expression was annoyed/upset to me  Overall very awkward. When you compare this behaviour with how he smiled when Seo Dan got the prize, you can clearly see the difference (this also means that he wasn't upset or something during the whole award show, he was only cold like this to SYJ)." 

 

I hope you're don't missed this one after judging by your own perspective

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

The News that actually comes out

(Note: You should make a fact and news as two different things based on what you means so everyone could understand what your intention. Generalize like what your write could make other shipper misunderstood)

 

19 hours ago, BinJin_Netherlands said:

news about them during the award show.

 

 

 

I hope you could get the insight. What is perspective based on unknowladge and what is a perspective based on reseach. So, you're conclution perspective could be accepted by a lot of people and not based of self expectation. 

 

 

19 hours ago, BinJin_Netherlands said:

My interpretation of news might differ from yours, and that's okay because this thread is to *discuss* it. You can't dismiss someone because they want to share their point of view.

 

your interpretation

"And I don't think that keeping the distance because of COVID has anything to do with it, because in the TikTok video they also stood closely next to each other (and also when shooting the group photos for the the official Baeksang Instagram page) , so I think SYJ could easily grab Hyun Bin by his arm when walking up the stage.  

 

I don't even think ''close friends'' act so cold as Hyun Bin did today. What do you guys think ?  I'm afraid it didn't work out between them or that Hyun Bin is in love with someone else  "

 

I understand your expectation and urgency of rushing their relationship as your state of mind, but even a gen has its differences. So, they are. Like other shipper has said, public figure dating and PDA in South Korea could be a scandal and maybe bad for their image. Unlike in Netherland even in Southeast Asia. Its complete different. If they keep their relations this private, their act on the Awards show is so understandable. We even should be so thankful they still throw that candies.

 

19 hours ago, BinJin_Netherlands said:

Also, that your opinions are ''only positive'' can also be wishful thinking, that's why it can be helpful to not see it as a competition between sailing/drowning, but share each other's points of view so that we can create the most realistic (and hopefully a positive!) outcome of their mysterious dating situation 

 

This is the one things i want you understand more. We're all here keep the only positive vibe with a reason. Behind all the rule of the forum itself who make us should not allow the trollers, the drowners and a fan war like talk about other artist or the ex of our OTP. Like i was suggest you before for take a route reading from page 1 you will see this forum has expreriencing what BTS said as "blood, sweat and tears". I hope you mind it. After that, Welcome to BINJIN Shipper forums  (if you really as your username).