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[Upcoming Drama 2021] Hospital Playlist/Wise Doctor Life, 슬기로운 의사생활 - Season 2 second half 2021

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If they had dated in secret, IJ would have somehow confess already. Unless your date means those kind of one to one meet up together.

 

Honestly I will say that they are yet a couple but IJ intended to confess to her on her bday. If not why go through the trouble of getting the gift for her and to pick to her in a one to one meetup. Furthermore, if they dated and broken up after that, wouldn't future meetup be awkward even if they only meet up in group of five instead of one to one.

 

In the drama, after IJ divorced, SHwa does not avoid any alone time with him and her interaction with IJ is totally different from her interaction with the rest

 

with JWan is foodie buddies, with JWon is friend who could open up to one another, with Seokhyeong is someone who could counsel him and give him advise.

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, queue said:

 

This is also my question but for me its main purpose is for the smooth flow of the story. The scene of Gyeoul and IkJun dialogue which ended in a question was placed at the first scene of episode 12. It allowed my mind to take off from the last scene of  episode 11 and a re-setting or re-establishment of this "conflict" in this episode. This needs to be set up because this "conflict" will be resolved in THIS episode*. It should be left "hanging" because of the huge waiting time. In fact, it actually signals the start of our waiting time. So the first scene adds up to that continuity and build-up. Without the connection of the first scene and the "confession scene", the latter will or might feel disconnected because it will need to take off from ep 11 - which is way too far. This connection also signals that this "conflict" has ended. You cannot put that flashback scene anywhere but there or the "confession scene" may be muted a little bit.**

 

Just my analysis. I tend to go on the scriptwriting and film editing part. I really wish that there are interviews of the director and writer on their thought process of writing and editing.

 

Notes:

* A"very simple" question which has little value to the story will not be put at the start only to be answered next season. It would be a waste of a scene since we already know that Gyeoul likes Jeongwon and no one is really asking why. Haha. There were a lot of "hanging" or "open" conflicts established in this episode but those questions needs more than one episode to be resolved. This scene is different.

** Imagine if you put that "love-at-first-sight" scene immediately after Gyeoul-IkJun scene, that scene can stand alone and you can remove it from the whole episode and the episode will still hold - and the "confession scene", as I said,  kinda bit disconnected from all the other scenes.

This is really insightful. I wouldn't know about Film editing and scriptwriting, so thanks for sharing this. What you said about continuity makes sense. I agree that the confession scene will end up hanging as a standalone scene with no connection with the rest of the events that happened in the ep. 

 

33 minutes ago, Dramageek said:

@kokodus 

It also serve as a poetic contrast to Ikjun case. Jang Winter, she decided to act on her first love, to confess. In the end, she found out that the feeling were mutual. Ikjun a long time ago choose not to confess his first love to Song Hwa, till this day he didn't know if their feeling were mutual or not. He was given second chances, and he used it, but coz it's been too long, 20 years worth, his answer will not come as easy... That's why winter-garden sailed this season, but Iksong ship must wait for another season.

 

Wow this is amazing. Thanks for pointing out the parallel between Jang's confession and IkJun's. 

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Dear ShinLee, it took you long enough to cast Jo Jong Seok. To think that Jung Woo, get Reply1994 right away after You're the Best Lee Soon Shin. But I know why it took so long. U really want Jo Jong Suk play guitar in your drama, ever since you saw him in Youth Over Flower Iceland. Kudos for you both, You did it. Hospital Playlist, the band and Ikjun character was genius!

 

 

In my opinion, this Ikjun character was written in Jo Jong Suk in mind. It was also not a coincidence that the PD choose the female lead, the target of Ikjun love, from his recommendation. So if it's not too much to ask, can Jung Woo be a cameo in second season pretty please?

 

 

This is why I assume that Yo Yong Seok in HP won't be involved in another messy love triangle. If Lee didn't create his own loveline she will be reopening chilbong trauma all over again. Seeing how much Winter-Garden clip trending in naver, I think Writer Lee made the right decission. As for Jung Kyung Ho, his character was the link between wise series, from best friend to potential bro in law.

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@DramageekIt’s very insightful to hear your thought about why the flashback of first meeting JGW was included. I always thought she started to be interested in him after the trouble about how she treated the guardian in EP.2, given that no other professors ever did that to her. But you are right that it would have been an immature reaction.  
 

Now with the flashback, we know she had a crush on him from the very first day.. then he reprimanded her and she continue to do the best job that she can do as a doctor. And she improved. She didn’t whine about AJW’s treatment of her to any of the other GS dads.  Her character is very admirable. You go girl!!!  Maybe we will see Chairwoman Ahn in the future instead!! Wait!! Do you change family’s name when you married? :) 

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What if in 2nd Season, Our Jang Winter outgrew her affection to him and became bored in her relationship with Dr Garden? 

 

Ik Jun said Gyeo Ul had this fantasy in Dr Garden. He is reminding her about his character. I bet next season is about Dr Garden conflicted feelings in tending patients and tending to girlfriend.

 

I heard many doctors relationship doesnt work well with people outside of hospital because doctor who cares too much abt patient didnt have time for his loved ones.

 

I can feel that writer makes us feel happy with the development of Winter Garden.. and then make them have a rocky start in the relationship. Yhis foreboding sense.. is it the Abuser Dad, is it relationship struggle or is it overempathize Garden will make it hard for Winter? 

 

What I meant is like

Imagine that

``` Gyeo Ul and JeongWon makes plan for a dinner date. They emptied out their schedule for the weekend. They have postponed the date several times already and never had the time to spend together outside hospital but instead PICU or OR. But then JeongWon had ER call and have to abandon Gyeo Ul from their date. And eventually this habit repeated again and again over time. Gyeo Ul felt not appreciated. She understood JWon love for his patients but soon struggle to find her place inside JWon heart. She will be like "Am I not important to you as well". It will be a real pain for Gyeo-ul ```

 

I said this, in my experience "a 1st timer in dating experience will have a hard time with her/his date if the opposite date could not make it work for both of them "

 

Knowing the writer-pd, they might go on the route of first time dating crisis added with mid-life dating crisis. Plus, with the character of JWon who is overthinking like that..  I never dare to. 

 

I can sense a foreboding danger to their relationship.

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1 hour ago, JungRok said:

What if in 2nd Season, Our Jang Winter outgrew her affection to him and became bored in her relationship with Dr Garden? 

 

Ik Jun said Gyeo Ul had this fantasy in Dr Garden. He is reminding her about his character. I bet next season is about Dr Garden conflicted feelings in tending patients and tending to girlfriend.

 

I heard many doctors relationship doesnt work well with people outside of hospital because doctor who cares too much abt patient didnt have time for his loved ones.

 

I can feel that writer makes us feel happy with the development of Winter Garden.. and then make them have a rocky start in the relationship. Yhis foreboding sense.. is it the Abuser Dad, is it relationship struggle or is it overempathize Garden will make it hard for Winter? 

 

What I meant is like

Imagine that

``` Gyeo Ul and JeongWon makes plan for a dinner date. They emptied out their schedule for the weekend. They have postponed the date several times already and never had the time to spend together outside hospital but instead PICU or OR. But then JeongWon had ER call and have to abandon Gyeo Ul from their date. And eventually this habit repeated again and again over time. Gyeo Ul felt not appreciated. She understood JWon love for his patients but soon struggle to find her place inside JWon heart. She will be like "Am I not important to you as well". It will be a real pain for Gyeo-ul ```

 

I said this, in my experience "a 1st timer in dating experience will have a hard time with her/his date if the opposite date could not make it work for both of them "

 

Knowing the writer-pd, they might go on the route of first time dating crisis added with mid-life dating crisis. Plus, with the character of JWon who is overthinking like that..  I never dare to. 

 

I can sense a foreboding danger to their relationship.

This will not happen. Hahaha. First of all Jang Gyeo ul is the one who is going to be very busy with her fourth year of residency. And she doesn't look like the type who would whine because they didnt go on many dates like other couples. She will be happy as long as he is with her. 

 

I have been thinking of what other potential problems may arise in their relationship. We have 2 more seasons, I don't think it will be all rainbows and unicorns from here....It has to be some sort of external conflict. I can't see them falling apart because of silly fights given how much they have gone through to be with each other. She is one of the main reason he gave up on his lifelong dream. So I'm sure that he will treasure her so much and goes out of his way to make 

things easier for her. Plus they have a huge age difference, which means they won't have any ego clashes. 

 

Some were discussing about how he might become Yulje's chairman one day. When he take on a bigger responsibilty, maybe that will cause some sort of conflict between them. Idk. I cant think of anything that will cause friction between them. LOL. I can only picture them as being lovey dovey with each other all the time. LOL. 

 

@cdew Wonderful. I was expecting him to say something during the confession scene....even just calling out her name out loud ...Gyeo ul-ah. Hahahaha. But it makes sense now. He is a man of action. Now that I think about it, if he had said something, it would have ruined the atmosphere. That scene was perfect as it is. 

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6 hours ago, kokodus said:

totally get Gyeo ul. My only question is why did they add that when we were intently waiting for Jeong won's pov. It could have been shown then and there when Ikjun asked her first. Why hide it like it's some big secret and reveal it at

So what was it really?? JeongWon POV flashback or Gyeo Ul POV flash back.. or both of them?? 

 

13 minutes ago, kokodus said:

Some were discussing about how he might become Yulje's chairman one day. When he take on a bigger responsibilty, maybe that will cause some sort of conflict between them. Idk. I cant think of anything that will cause a friction between them. LOL. I can only picture them as being lovey dovey with each other all the time. LOL. 

No, I was overthinking. With Chilbong, Junghwan and the past Jehyuk.. i dont know man. I gonna hate the writer if they clashed. 

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10 minutes ago, JungRok said:

So what was it really?? JeongWon POV flashback or Gyeo Ul POV flash back.. or both of them?? 

It's Gyeo Ul's pov. It's the flashback to when Ikjun asked her from when she started liking JW. 

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1 hour ago, JungRok said:

What if in 2nd Season, Our Jang Winter outgrew her affection to him and became bored in her relationship with Dr Garden? 

 

Ik Jun said Gyeo Ul had this fantasy in Dr Garden. He is reminding her about his character. I bet next season is about Dr Garden conflicted feelings in tending patients and tending to girlfriend.

 

I heard many doctors relationship doesnt work well with people outside of hospital because doctor who cares too much abt patient didnt have time for his loved ones.

 

I can feel that writer makes us feel happy with the development of Winter Garden.. and then make them have a rocky start in the relationship. Yhis foreboding sense.. is it the Abuser Dad, is it relationship struggle or is it overempathize Garden will make it hard for Winter? 

 

What I meant is like

Imagine that

``` Gyeo Ul and JeongWon makes plan for a dinner date. They emptied out their schedule for the weekend. They have postponed the date several times already and never had the time to spend together outside hospital but instead PICU or OR. But then JeongWon had ER call and have to abandon Gyeo Ul from their date. And eventually this habit repeated again and again over time. Gyeo Ul felt not appreciated. She understood JWon love for his patients but soon struggle to find her place inside JWon heart. She will be like "Am I not important to you as well". It will be a real pain for Gyeo-ul ```

 

I said this, in my experience "a 1st timer in dating experience will have a hard time with her/his date if the opposite date could not make it work for both of them "

 

Knowing the writer-pd, they might go on the route of first time dating crisis added with mid-life dating crisis. Plus, with the character of JWon who is overthinking like that..  I never dare to. 

 

I can sense a foreboding danger to their relationship.

 

Since they are both doctors, I don't think we need worry much about that 

Both of them know their daily life as doctors are busy as it is

Plus, they often work together..so they can spend time and can have small date during their breaks

I think it will be sweet memories for them to look back once they get married

 

I am more worried with their characters' difference

they are so different, a bit extreme..1 is so overly sensitive, and the other more into rational thinking

They will be great partners in life if they can balance each other

BUT..if they can't, they will fight a lot

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2 hours ago, kokodus said:

@cdew Wonderful. I was expecting him to say something during the confession scene....even just calling out her name out loud ...Gyeo ul-ah. Hahahaha. But it makes sense now. He is a man of action. Now that I think about it, if he had said something, it would have ruined the atmosphere. That scene was perfect as it is. 

 

Yes! The scene was perfect as it is. 

As how men and women are so different in that regard; women bond over talks, men bond over shared activities. 

Jeongwon was replying with actions. 

 

I really like how the writer does not make unrealistic movie character, but they really make these characters so realistic in that regard. I mean, there are drama characters that make women fall head over heels. but in reality, a lot of love story are not always like that. In reality, somehow there are things left unsaid.

 

There are slow burn romance and there are people who can't always confess ASAP, because in reality.... life as a doctor is a very busy life indeed.

 

I can't wait to see the next season, it would be fun seeing them dating in secret/Jeongwon being all aegyo. 

 

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2 hours ago, enchantedyears said:
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You guys post some really good insights that I enjoy lurking on the thread so much :wub:

 

I am GLAD Ikjun finally confessed before Songhwa could shoot him down like what happened to Chihong. I have a feeling Ikjun's confession is something Songhwa wants to hear coming straight out of Ikjun's mouth after two almost-confession attempts. Perhaps she didn't expect Ikjun would do it on the day he left for Spain, but she knew it would come eventually. Unlike what Chihong did, Ikjun's confession came in at the perfect time, perfect place, and it was perfectly phrased. I'm sure someone here has said the things I'm about to say but here we go...

  • Perfect time. The confession didn't come out of nowhere. Songhwa is a person who always draws a certain line in any form of relationship she has with people around her. She clearly said she only wants to be friends with Seokhyung and have a mentor-mentee relationship with Chihong (that he frustratingly crossed a few times). After Ikjun's divorce, a certain amount of comfort was rebuilt between Ikjun and Songhwa, hints were also dropped, enough for the relationship line to get blurry, slowly but surely and subconsciously. In my opinion, it's not completely Ikjun's feelings/confession that made Songhwa speechless, it's the thought, "We have always been friends. For 20 years. Now what?" plus her own inability to firmly say she only wants to be friends with Ikjun.
    Ikjun, too, would not have confessed if he didn't know the detailed development of Gyeoul's feelings towards Jeongwon, Minha's confession to Seokhyung, and Seokmin's obvious crush on Seonbin. Their boldness and Songhwa's decision to move to Sokcho must've encouraged Ikjun to take the now or never approach.
  • Perfect place. After the two of them can spend time comfortably without other people's presence, Ikjun confessed at a very personal place: Songhwa's house (that we previously never see IIRC?) and away from places they frequent. Despite being out of his comfort zone, this signifies how Ikjun wants the confession to be taken and his feelings to be acknowledged: personally and seriously. Having that in mind, he also wants Songhwa to take her time in Sokcho if she needs to.
  • Perfect phrase. The way Ikjun framed his confession as someone asking for an advice is such a pro move that I can applaud him for. If Ikjun confessed so directly by saying something like "Songhwa, I've liked you for awhile." Songhwa would not have the obligation to treat it like an advice. You know when you feel it's easier to give others advice than to yourself? If Songhwa is going to answer it like an advice, she too, would have to follow what she says. It's definitely a dilemma for Songhwa, but Ikjun intentionally wants Songhwa's thoughts to be involved.

 

Considering Rosa-Jongsoo parallel and Songhwa's previous advice, here's what I think Songhwa's early S2 response would be:

  • Rosa-Jongsoo parallel ep. 10. "If you can't find a solution no matter how hard you rack your brain, avoid the problem for now. If you avoid the problem for as long as possible, things could change with time. Oftentime that's what happens. So for now, give him whatever excuse you can think of and just avoid him." ---> this will be overturned later because Songhwa and Ikjun don't want to be another Rosa-Jongsoo.
  • Seokhyung and Songhwa ep. 11
    Seokhyung: Songhwa, I don't know how I'm feeling. I don't know if I'm sad or relieved. I don't know how I'm supposed to feel. They are my feelings, but I can't put a finger on it. And I don't know what kind of a face I should put on.
    Songhwa: Then just don't do anything.

Prove me wrong, writer-nim!!! :lol:

 

 

Extra thought: I find it really cute that outside the hospital, only Ikjun and Songhwa seem to be related to Yoonbok and Hongdo. Mane and Mone are YB and HD's cousins whereas Songhwa goes to the same church as them (they also study medicine because of Songhwa!)

 

 

 

I love your insight about Ikjun confession. Both Gangwondo boys are expert in doing fluttering confession. U right that his confession was highly inspired by his residents buddies lovelife. The problem with Ikjun is that Song Hwa is a woman who don't want to be pursued, at least for now, coz she has other priorities. I agree that she use Jongsoo avoidance tactic (moving to Sokcho, out of sight out of mind). That's why Ikjun go extra miles to craft perfect confession, so even if he is out sight, he is not out of mind. Paraphasing his confession as if he was a client of Song Salon, looking for advice, was very clever move.

 

She will stay still for awhile, do nothing. Something need to happen to shake this avoid-do nothing status quo. I don't know what it will be, I'll trust Lee to suprise me. But I am dying to know Song Hwa three older brothers, if they appear in Season 2, I think they may be play some part in this matter.

 

Don't be a lurker no more @enchantedyears. I love ur writing. I want to know ur opinion about other pairing.

 

 

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On 5/28/2020 at 11:20 PM, ryanallright said:

If this happened, Iwould rather have a new guy from Sokcho woo her successfully in Season 2

 

Just saying 

@ryanallright

if they go that way ( I doubt it) can they please bring Lee Kyu-Hyung?

is the actor who played Loony in PP

He is a musical performer also like most of the cast in HP and he can play excellent all kind of genres.

I want so much to see him playing with JJS for a pretty long time and HP with multiple seasons gives me hope that maybe I will see it happen .

 

On another note I am still living under the spell of the last 13 minutes of the episode 12. And because that feeling is so good I do not pay attention in some  comments that try to downgrade these 13 min because basically the receiver of the kiss is not the person they wanted or see.

 

 

 

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On 5/29/2020 at 4:27 AM, romancetrash said:

edit: So I'm really curious about the pediatric surgeon in South Korea, and I found an abstract about it from a 2015 journal. They wrote, "Total number of PICU beds in Korea was 113. The ratio of the number of PICU beds to the number of children was 1:77,460 in Korea and this ratio is lower than that of other developed countries." The conclusion is,

 

"There is a considerable shortage of PICU beds compared to those in developed countries. In addition, the proportion of PICUs with PCC (Pediatric Critical Care) specialists is much lower than those in the US and European countries.

 

 

 I hope Jang Gyeo-ul will do her fellowship in Yulje under Ahn Jeong Won. 

 

2 years of diploma

5 years of med school

1 year of intern (rotation every department)

4 years of residency (PGY-1 Choose 1st dept withinn 6 months, if not liking it, chnage in tri semester)

PGY-2 and PGY-3 Residency

PGY-4 Chief, More responsibility and last 3 or 6 months is final hurdle for Board Exam

 

1 or 2 year of fellowship

 

Add 2 more years to go for associate professor (doing pHD)

 

8 hours ago, kiklaminHo said:

On another note I am still living under the spell of the last 13 minutes of the episode 12. And because that feeling is so good I do not pay attention in some  comments that try to downgrade these 13 min because basically the receiver of the kiss is not the person they wanted or see.

Who  hating that last 13 minutes. It was blessful event for our WinterGarden

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26 minutes ago, JungRok said:

Who  hating that last 13 minutes. It was blessful event for our WinterGarden

someone who happen other outcomes...hahaha its just like me when i watch reply 1988 i was so hoping jung pal and deuk sun...i hatebthe writer, but then i told my self, it is their baby...if i dont like it, simple as dont watch..its their hard work who am i to criticise just because it dont go the way i want...because of the after half years laters, i decide to watch the series again, and i saw why deuk sun choose taek and like how na jung always had eyes on trash oppa, in daek sun mind is all taek...

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and as someone mention in twitter it was right, the song after geul wol confessions and when jeong won start to hold her head with those puppy eyes..the bgm it same as reply 1988 during bora confessions that she miss sung wo..

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it will be great if the writer show how jeong won as husband first as his character always parallel with jung hwan character...and ik jun will tease him so much when he make annoucement to get married, cause his stubbornness before this who dont believe in dating etc

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