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[Upcoming Drama 2021] Hospital Playlist/Wise Doctor Life, 슬기로운 의사생활 - Season 2 second half 2021

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1 minute ago, Ketu R said:

Song hwa left the lonely night performance to meet up the gang following ik joon and joon wan so assuming her interest is one of those two seems logical. 


Then why was she the last to enter the shed?  After SH and Andrea?  There’s something missing in that story.  Had she just followed IJ and JWan out which is what they showed us, she should’ve been the 3rd person into the shed.  Andrea and SH left later after the 3 of them left.  What was she doing all that time in between?  There’s something missing in that narrative.

 

I have nothing to prove that they are each other’s first crushes part from the character descriptions.  Both had some “love” in their 20s.  So I am waiting for writer to reveal if my assumption is correct.

 

5 minutes ago, Ketu R said:

The canon performance she literally swooned looking at ik joon playing guitar.

 

I swooned too. IJ is lead guitar.  His personality is one where everyone falls in love with him.  He’s very easy to love.  He’s friendly, funny, gets along with everyone, positive.  I would wager he would have heaps of girls after him in med school and also into his working life.  Which is why I initially thought IJ was her first crush.  He’s the most natural choice?  But I have changed my viewpoint because someone mentioned here that this writer is big on the First Love trope.  So if IJ was her first love, then everything in the story now should be telling me they would end up together.  But thus far, they’re conversations don’t tell me that.  IJ pretty much confessed to her yeah?  At his apartment?  He told her having dinner with her was his treat.  That was his confession.  He could see a life with her together.  And so could I.  That apartment scene with UJu was just lovely.  But what was her response?  She turned her face away and changed the subject.  And IJ picked up on that and started talking about rain.  She left the table and walked away.  That’s not someone who is keen to say yes to the confession?  She didn’t mirror a response.  She didn’t even say yes I like having dinner with you too?  So I am waiting for writer to give me mirror responses if she wants the 2 of them to end up together.  Now contrast the SHwa/Andrea conversation. It’s mirrored.  She says, “Let’s get married” (I am not sure subs are right here?).  He stops in his tracks.  Then she adds, find a good woman, get married and have kids.  Now listen to his response.  He mirrors her talk and says, “you get married. You love kids too”.  That’s a mirrored response.  They have been mirrors since Ep1.  Andrea calls out GU for insensitivity towards the mother with her CPR comment.  SHwa calls out Yong for being insensitive to a patient in the same episode.  Even in this episode, Andrea is altruistic (called impressive by SHwa when she finds out about DLL).  SHwa is called out as being other-centered by the residents who tell her to “run for office” because she didn’t make any materialistic wishes.  That’s how I see it anyway.  I don’t expect people to see it the same way.  I don’t mind being wrong.  If writer proves me wrong then so be it.  It’s her work after all.  I am merely a spectator.

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1 hour ago, rafeusjanela said:

We've seen in the past 10 episodes that music does play a large role in the narrative. Does this choice of song for the introduction mean that 'starting again' is a main topic/point in our series? If that was true, it would solidify Ik Jun & Song Hwa as the endgame (yay!). 


Wow I listened to the song and it does sound similar so I think your theory is highly possible :D. Ofcourse, fingers crossed this applies to Iksong hahaha but I can also see how a new start may apply to all of them. I’ve read somewhere that the band practice venue which was untouched for a long time and was used again in ep 1 symbolizes starting again as well.

 

Building on music as instrument to narrative, I’m hoping to see even our residents performing as well as a number of them are also theater performers. Seeing how they are giving them their own chance to shine like Jaehak, Minha, and Chihong, I’m hoping this is possible in the next seasons.

 

Anyway sharing one of the OSTs released which seems like a sad song of longing for someone. This makes me nervous for our characters. Especially for Junwan and Iksun given their situation. :tears:
 

 

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Then why was she the last to enter the shed?  After SH and Andrea?  There’s something missing in that story.  Had she just followed IJ and JWan out which is what they showed us, she should’ve been the 3rd person into the shed.  Andrea and SH left later after the 3 of them left.  What was she doing all that time in between?  There’s something missing in that narrative.

 

I have nothing to prove that they are each other’s first crushes part from the character descriptions.  Both had some “love” in their 20s.  So I am waiting for writer to reveal if my assumption is correct.

 

 

I swooned too. IJ is lead guitar.  His personality is one where everyone falls in love with him.  He’s very easy to love.  He’s friendly, funny, gets along with everyone, positive.  I would wager he would have heaps of girls after him in med school and also into his working life.  Which is why I initially thought IJ was her first crush.  He’s the most natural choice?  But I have changed my viewpoint because someone mentioned here that this writer is big on the First Love trope.  So if IJ was her first love, then everything in the story now should be telling me they would end up together.  But thus far, they’re conversations don’t tell me that.  IJ pretty much confessed to her yeah?  At his apartment?  He told her having dinner with her was his treat.  That was his confession.  He could see a life with her together.  And so could I.  That apartment scene with UJu was just lovely.  But what was her response?  She turned her face away and changed the subject.  And IJ picked up on that and started talking about rain.  She left the table and walked away.  That’s not someone who is keen to say yes to the confession?  She didn’t mirror a response.  She didn’t even say yes I like having dinner with you too?  So I am waiting for writer to give me mirror responses if she wants the 2 of them to end up together.  Now contrast the SHwa/Andrea conversation. It’s mirrored.  She says, “Let’s get married” (I am not sure subs are right here?).  He stops in his tracks.  Then she adds, find a good woman, get married and have kids.  Now listen to his response.  He mirrors her talk and says, “you get married. You love kids too”.  That’s a mirrored response.  They have been mirrors since Ep1.  Andrea calls out GU for insensitivity towards the mother with her CPR comment.  SHwa calls out Yong for being insensitive to a patient in the same episode.  Even in this episode, Andrea is altruistic (called impressive by SHwa when she finds out about DLL).  SHwa is called out as being other-centered by the residents who tell her to “run for office” because she didn’t make any materialistic wishes.  That’s how I see it anyway.  I don’t expect people to see it the same way.  I don’t mind being wrong.  If writer proves me wrong then so be it.  It’s her work after all.  I am merely a spectator.

She turned away flustered. He literally rendered her speechless. She dint even notice the rain. She dint brush him off, she just said eat in a sort of broken voice cause she was so happy. Maybe that is my shipper hearts projection. She has out right rejected two proposals so far. Never being the one to shy away from direct rejection she could have just told him to cut it out. But instead she turned but never noticed the rain and when he said it was raining ran to the window opened it and smiled. If you had just turned down a friend you consider dear would you smile at the rain which clearly has some significance for both of them.

 

Again I have to bring in reply 94 here trash oppa s reaction to go ara s proposal was silence too. Not coz he dint like her but coz he had ti think made a lot of people angry that he dragged his feet out. But a sudden confession from a friend who you may like back would not be to jump up in joy and kiss them right. It would be shock. She went on working alongside him after that if she had turned him down at least in her mind would she not be more awkward around him..

 

About mirroring I just think they are both great doctors who may have similar personalities but nowhere it is shown they are each others crushes. She just told him to marry and be happy maybe subs wrong but that dint seem to be a big deal to her. Especially considering how flustered she looked around ik joons confession. I love both of them but they seem too mellow for each other. Not to mention the fact that they have never shown any inkling of romance. Nor is it shown they are meant to be. Not even longing gazes after 10 episodes?? One scene where she asks him to help her and she walks in front and he walks behind her carrying her package like a sibling would do. Iksong hwa almost always walk together like a couple, they sit together or opposite each other during dinners. Evenin a mundane scene they have their own moments..  Why would they have so many romantic scenes together just to break ik joons heart?

 

But again maybe am reading it all wrong and you are al right but to me a flower garden pairing right now would just be a shock for the sake of twist. Not to mention lazy writing to have never shown their scenes before. 

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2 hours ago, standingtallyy said:

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**Jeong Won won’t be able to go to Italy, COVID -19 pandemic is looming :D

 

Btw it cross my mind that writer Lee need to rewrite script of season 2 because of Covid19. Espescially the fact that SK handling it so well compared to other country. I wonder what will happen to Iksun - UK storyline. My nephew who study in UK was forced to go home just before london lockdown.

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I'm so understand the frustration that JWan had. I mean, that's a big deal. The news. Why iksun tell him nothing :expressionless: poor him....he is her namchin yet her bff know 1st. Wae-yo?

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@nenmem16 Please see spoiler below for further details haha.

 

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Sorry, I don't exactly remember, but I'm pretty sure this was happened early on. Junghwan was reading a lewd novel and then tried to hide it when Dukseon came in. Dukseon caught him in the act and tried to snatch it away from him. Hehe.

 

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4 hours ago, KDramaFan0828 said:


Seeing this tweet made me think that JWon is “sick” or constantly having headaches because he is confused with what he wants and is having trouble really following his heart (wherever it may be). What he said to Songhwa might be his subconscious talking to himself.

 

 

 

So, he is not doing what he likes?

He doesn't like saving puppies?

 

lol.. nah!.. or is headache because he can't deal with the fact that he is cheating on god and harbouring a secret crush (on my SH :P ) .. on whoever!

 

5 hours ago, nrllee said:


Yes.  That’s one beautiful relationship. To find each other again in the latter part of their lives.  I like how Ju even conspired with Rosa and gave her ideas on how to deal with Andrea :lol:.  Their relationship reflects Andrea and SHwa. Mature and supportive.  They can rely on each other.  MiDo mentions in her interview that Andrea is someone she can rely on.  She repeated that line during the conversation at the restaurant when talking to the residents about dating colleagues.  Slip of the tongue maybe?? :lol:
 

Capt Ahn is being set up for SeonBin I think.  Both responded to the intern in similar fashion.  Yong made him feel worse. 

Who is SeonBin??

 

He is druggie's boyfriend. Don't mess with that. "Ouri" druggie should be out of prison this time :)

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Wow... Seems like this forum start to getting heat. Relax guys... And please do no too harsh with Gyeowool. So far the drama has shown beautifully Gyeowool's growth as a doctor, and there are 2 episode + 2 seasons left, I am sure the writer have enough room to show new side of Gyeowool other than her loveline in next ep/next season. It's Lee Writer's style to show her character's arc by peeling off the layer of her characters one by one. And she have the ability to write the grounded development of her characters which made viewers feel relatable with her characters. So I will believe with Lee's work :)

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1 hour ago, Ketu R said:

But again maybe am reading it all wrong and you are al right but to me a flower garden pairing right now would just be a shock for the sake of twist. Not to mention lazy writing to have never shown their scenes before. 


That’s your opinion.  Free world.  Would it change if she did an epilogue and add scenes to the missing narrative?  Like she’s done in the past?  That’s her style yeah?  Or at least that’s what I think it is?  Didn’t she do that with the Reply series?  To splice scenes?  We see it in the Previews here?  They splice it so it gives you a false impression?  When has it ever been as it seemed?  Personally I think her writing is brilliant.  Which is why so many keep coming back to watch despite being disillusioned after her previous works.  It’s her choice.  We’re just spectators.  She can choose to do what she wants.  Whether to shock or to troll or to give the audience exactly what they expect.  Her prerogative.  Her canvas.  Some have mentioned they would not come back for S2 or watch her dramas again.  That’s a pity but again, free world.  You can walk away and watch other dramas.  Plenty of other writers who will write what suits your fancy.  I am coming back to watch her work even if I get it all wrong.  I love this writer-PD duo.  Whether I am right or wrong has no bearing whatsoever on how I view their work.  
 

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Who is SeonBin??


did I get her name wrong?  The female NS resident.  The one at lunch with a SHwa and Capt Ahn.  I love how the lawyer for SH’s mom has a gf who is a “prison guard”. :lol:.  I feel like the Cilantro and JWan was an ode to something?  Was it in PP?  
 

Disclaimer - just because I am seeing what I am seeing (FlowerGarden) should have no bearing whatsoever on IkSong or WinterGarden?  Think of me as eccentric or incoherent?  Don’t mind my rambling.  It’s just a minority opinion?  Why let it bother you?  You’re confident in your own opinions yeah?  So continue talking about IkSong and WinterGarden.  We’ll see what writer nim has in store for us this season and the next 2.  I don’t mind reading your opinions.  They are valid ones too?  Given your perspectives?  

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Based on kakao tv, the top 3 most viewed segment of last night ep were:

 

1st: Ikjun train announcement

2nd: Min-ha confession

3rd: Ikjun subtle confession

 

Mido and Parasol OST drama ver

 

 

 

 

So I assume these r their role:

JMD - leader/bass

JJS - vocal/guitar

JKH - lead guitar

YYS - drum

KDM - keyboard

 

:lol::lol:

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I don't think Andrea wanting to be priest is running away from something. Rosa herself said that he want to be priest since childhood. It's just that his brothers and sisters beat him first. I think it is only natural that parent want their child to get married and give them grandchildrens. They are from wealthy family with medical foundation, there is a need for an heir (even though for now the situation was resolved). So Rosa, having lost her other four children to God, naturally want Andrea to choose different path. Actually now is Mom vs God. Even if Andrea has feeling for GU or SH, it will not be main factor preventing him to pursue priesthood.

 

If being a priest was Andrea wish since childhood, I can see why he still a virgin till now, never act on his feeling for women (if there were any). So I do not think if Andrea will revert his decission only for woman sake. Something will happen to his mom in the future that will made him revert his life trajectory, like how Seok Hyung did. The woman of his choice will be related to his mom case. Jo Jong So health also don't look so good, maybe in the future he can no longer run the foundation, so Andrea must step up to the job. We'll see...

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Hello co-viewers. I want to join the topic after watching yesterday but I love the episode too much that I don't want to ruin it by creating a post-reasoning. I just want to enjoy it the way it was presented.

 

But because this is the first time i tuned-in to a weekly episodes of a Kdrama, and Thursday can't come too soon. I'm sharing my own observations.

 

I think the general feel is that everyone is happy about the episodes and we welcome those happiness. The love and good feelings.

 

Most of us are smitten with the pairings of Ik-Jun/SongHwa; Gyeu-wool/Jeung-won and most of us are happy about these pairings and who wouldn't be? If it's in real life, If someone is happy, we should also be happy. It doesn't always happen but yeah as a rule, we should refrain from forecasting rain on someone else parade.

 

But this is a drama, it's a product of one person or persons creativity. He/She can change/re-write the story which can be open to other factors and influence.

 

For me the episode is about TIME

 

TIME - Car scene with Ro-sa and Jung-soo. Jung soo said "Time is Key, If you can't find a solution now, If you avoid the problem as long as possible, things could change in time." Is this in reference to IkJun's feeling for SongHwa, how he waited 20 years and only now slowly revealing his feelings... But 20 years is a long time to express your feelings. Why did he waited that long. is it because he's not sure about her feelings? I guess, Ik-Jun, the definition of a Perfect Man were scared to be rejected. that's why he doesn't go after a girl, they come to him. And why he's scared about being rejected by SongHwa, perhaps because he knows who SongHwa really likes and it's not him?

 

When SongHwa stood up to open the window, excitement on her face looking at the rain. Ik-Jun was left seating down, was he sad? Melancholy perhaps?  Yes, he revealed his feelings, but it's more of a closure than wanting to go further. Him battling his feelings for her for 20 years, finally found the courage to reveal. was he the Lion toy facing his fears with a brave heart?

 

again Jung-soo's time is Key approach, the problem will not go away. it will still be there but time will lessen the impact to one's feelings/reactions. Like if you're scared of a spider when you were young. as you grow older and learn to understand, you will be less scared, but it doesn't change the fact that the subject is still a spider and you're still scared of it but only a little :)

 

In other words, I don't buy IkJun-SongHwa's pairing ;) The scene in the restaurant when SW and CH egging Seok-Bin and Seon-Bin to reveal that they are dating and when they finally agree, the reaction was: CH 'as if anyone would buy that; SW: 'Who would believe that.' So, is the writer trying to say something different from the obvious? is she playing on us? 

 

Next on: The Winter-Garden...i'm happy for Winter, her time is coming... but I think the Garden will be covered with snow by then. I can see Winter is slowly shifting her feelings... I would be too if someone is always there to support me, cheering me up, giving me food, buying me coffee, even if that person has to go out of his way to find the nearest convenient store on a rainy day... giving me a bunch of red flowers and chocolate candies, even for the wrong reason this is being done to me, I would gladly accept this attention and transfer my feelings immediately. Who needs a big wide smile and simple Hello. When I can have the whole romantic feels from another person. ;) Perhaps it's the reason why she declined when IkJun said about having a coke with Jeung-won? Different reaction from previous episodes when IkJun said that JW staying at his house and she eagerly asks for an invitations... this time, she declined an opportunity to be with JW. A change of heart? and has anyone notice the way she used informal speech with IkJun. He may be helping her as a bridge to her lovelife but He's still her senior. Not unless, Netflix is removing the honorifics translation ;)

 

 

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14 minutes ago, DonnaMae said:

Different reaction from previous episodes when IkJun said that JW staying at his house and she eagerly asks for an invitations... this time, she declined an opportunity to be with JW. A change of heart? and has anyone notice the way she used informal speech with IkJun. He may be helping her as a bridge to her lovelife but He's still her senior. Not unless, Netflix is removing the honorifics translation

She indeed has changed her mind because JWon lied to her about the reason he couldn’t buy her dinner. She has decided to let go of this crush although she still likes him. 

 

As for informal speech, I thought so too from earlier episode, but someone here had confirmed that she still uses formal speech with IkJun. 

 

In the meantime, please enjoy this OST 

 

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I want Andrea to become a priest. It's his lifelong dream. We mere laypeople think differently, see things in a worldly lens. But the greatest romance for him is to offer his life to God. He has already fallen in love, and his career as a doctor is a testament to that. But you know what would stall him from fulfilling his dream in December? It's not his mom, it's not our Winter baby. It's Covid-19. :joy:

 

 

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10 minutes ago, DonnaMae said:

When SongHwa stood up to open the window, excitement on her face looking at the rain. Ik-Jun was left seating down, was he sad? Melancholy perhaps?  Yes, he revealed his feelings, but it's more of a closure than wanting to go further. Him battling his feelings for her for 20 years, finally found the courage to reveal. was he the Lion toy facing his fears with a brave heart?

 

Next on: The Winter-Garden...i'm happy for Winter, her time is coming... but I think the Garden will be covered with snow by then. I can see Winter is slowly shifting her feelings... I would be too if someone is always there to support me, cheering me up, giving me food, buying me coffee, even if that person has to go out of his way to find the nearest convenient store on a rainy day... giving me a bunch of red flowers and chocolate candies, even for the wrong reason this is being done to me, I would gladly accept this attention and transfer my feelings immediately. Who needs a big wide smile and simple Hello. When I can have the whole romantic feels from another person. ;) Perhaps it's the reason why she declined when IkJun said about having a coke with Jeung-won? Different reaction from previous episodes when IkJun said that JW staying at his house and she eagerly asks for an invitations... this time, she declined an opportunity to be with JW. A change of heart? and has anyone notice the way she used informal speech with IkJun. He may be helping her as a bridge to her lovelife but He's still her senior. Not unless, Netflix is removing the honorifics translation ;)

 

 

Seok Hyung went to him when he was broken hearted after being rejected by Song Hwa. Ik Jun was meant to meet Song Hwa that night but he had cancelled because of Seok Hyung. My guess is that he decided to take a step back out of respect for Seok Hyung, and eventually it became easier to just keep his feelings in so not to ruin the friendship between the 3 of them. During the time when he met his wife, Song Hwa has been dating too (just without marriage in mind) so it is likely that its the classic reason of missing the timing. He may think it was a good idea to just accept that they are friends then and get on with their lives, until of course now - after a failed marriage, years wiser about making the right decisions and learning more about following his heart. 

I could be wrong, but I do think and hope this will be revealed in the next few remaining episodes or in season 2, when he and song hwa would have a heart to heart or flashbacks again during one of the band's song. 

 

Since Jeong Won lied and didn't meet her, Gyeo Ul has been keeping her distance and keeping things only professional. She is trying hard to do so and it strikes to me that she is not the type of girl that would still relentlessly go after the guy even after an indirect no. So it is quite self explanatory why she kept declining anything Ik Jun tried to set up with Jeong Won, the same way she resorted to silence when Ik Jun asked her if she still likes him. I understand that you would accept if you are presented with the same scenario because that is  how you would do it, but Gyeo Ul is Gyeo Ul . Instead of putting her in your shoes, it would be better to try to put yourself in her character's shoes - maybe it would make sense the why she did what she did and the decision she made. 

When she asked Ik Jun to invite her over, that was before she had made the move to ask him for a date. Prior to getting rejected, she was also okay with Ik Jun being obvious about her feelings towards Jeong Won. All that changed after because she has a lot of respect for herself and of the other person. 

 

If I understand Korean culture correctly, dropping honorifics is only possible when the senior first mentioned that it is okay. Or rarely wehn the junior would ask if it is okay to drop honorifics, it doesn't happen naturallly. In this case, considering how friendly Ik Jun is to the residents and how he favours Gyeo Ul also considering how much he has been her cheerleader, the drop honorifics would have already happened. Most importantly it shows their bond is comfortable and trustful. There are also real life couples either married or dating for a long time have not dropped honorifics. 

 

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19 hours ago, Ketu R said:

I think flowergarden is almost a impossible ship now. Andrea said it's not song hwa almost too emphatically. It seemed to be a direct indication to the fans. Just my opinion. 

 

 

We still have hope chingu...I think I'm the one who shipping Flower Garden...but if Flower Garden not end game...yeah I accept it but I still love Flower Garden

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38 minutes ago, DonnaMae said:

 and has anyone notice the way she used informal speech with IkJun. He may be helping her as a bridge to her lovelife but He's still her senior. Not unless, Netflix is removing the honorifics translation ;)

 

 

 

Sorry to cur your post. From what i hear she still uses formal speech to IJ. She even uses formal speech with her bff Min Ha. I think it's part of her character, being polite in speech (speaking in jondaemal) to everyone.

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