[Upcoming Drama 2021] Hospital Playlist/Wise Doctor Life, 슬기로운 의사생활 - Season 2 second half 2021

[revel best 267]

I watched that ikjun confession for couple of times already, and cant get enaugh, its really sweet. Songhwa flustered face after that, lmao. She didnt realize that it was raining even after looking out to the window 

I dont really ship anyone since ep 8, but this two be making my heart flutter. 

 

Btw jeongwon sing that winter garden anthem  cant wait for junwan and seokhyeong turn to sing~ 

[FromFarAwayLand 2,074]

First exclusive conversation between JeongWon ang SongHwa and their topic is about marriage and kids. 

 

[40somethingahjumma 46,406]

A good episode overall but I think I preferred last week's. For me the parts were better than the sum total. It was as if the show went backwards from last week. This one felt somewhat more disjointed and even a bit clunky at times. Which is a weird thing to be saying I know. It really felt to me like they were trying to cram in a whole bunch of stuff now that we're nearing the season's end, bringing some things to a head earlier rather than later. I'm always up for more Hospital Playlist of course but not at the cost of pacing. 

 

Needless to say Ik-jun was my hero today. I honestly don't know how he does it. It boggles the mind. He's a single dad, leads the band, does a ton of surgeries at the drop of a hat, interact with patients, lectures, plays match-maker, plays big brother and even dishes out homespun truths where needed. Amazing. Does he even sleep?

 

I was absolutely squealing like a fangirl in his scenes with U-ju who is cuteness in a bowl cut. That eatery scene was undoubtedly one of my favourites from today. The two of them are gorgeous together and delightful. I think my ovaries did flip flops. That kid is to die for. Where did they find him? 

 

But the thing I appreciate most about him, especially in this episode, is how he supportive he is of Gyeo-ul. I love how he barracks for her and makes himself her cheerleader. I've been wondering for a long time why he's been trying to so hard to bring them together. And now we know... He wants good and happy things for her because she does it tough. She picked one of the toughest gigs in the hospital and slogged her way through her residency from the first year. She's does it all without murmuring but seems to relish the work. Our girl has guts.

Frankly I can't help feeling that what Ik-jun said in this episode about GU's work ethic was not for Jeong-won but for the audience, particularly the detractors of her character from Day 1. All the pile on from a small part of the fanbase because she doesn't fit their idea of the ideal person for JW. JW's certainly not the one with the problem with GU. He knows her and likes her. He's come a very long way from "she's not my cup of tea". That's so clear that it's leaking all over the place in spite of the conflict within.  Sometimes I feel that he's not even trying to hide it either.  I hope we can finally bury the whole notion that this has been a one-sided crush. Please.

 

I really loved how Ik-jun framed his counselling session with JW.  Yes, he could be construed as a busybody but the way he approached it... wanting the best for the two of them... that was the right tack. And it should be the case. He showed a fair bit of wisdom and drew from his own life experience. Despite what he said though, I don't think it's about God vs Gyeo-ul.

 

Whether or not Gyeo-ul is just a catalyst, I still can't see how JW can give up pediatrics without hesitation. The show practically sledgehammered that home today with scenes in the pediatric ward and Song-hwa telling him to get married and have kids. Even if the WinterGarden pair aren't the endgame, can he really give up medicine forever? That has always been the key question for me. I still have a huge problem with him thinking that the priesthood is his ultimate calling because his heart and his passion is for medicine. I don't quite agree with Ik-jun that it is a matter of heart and head being at odds with each other. It's not that simple. I know that Hollywood and Asian dramas like to make it out that it is. But the Christian idea of the whole person is about aligning the mind, body, soul and heart in harmony. JW's problem is not with his mind but his heart. Because if he thought about it a lot more, he would see that his calling is in medicine. It's not a mind vs heart thing. It's about him coming to a place of understanding about himself, of who he is. If anything, it is a heart vs heart problem that he has. The drama is at pains to show us that 1) he loves kids 2) he is da boss in pediatrics 3) he gives out medical advice at will 4) when his patients call he comes running. I don't know what branch of Catholicism he adheres to but in classical Christianity there is not separation between secular and sacred. A individual can serve God in a whole range of occupations without any kind of celibacy involved or special title.

 

I would hasten to add that romance is a really small part of this show. When it is used, it is for the most part a vehicle to take the characters to a particular place in the storytelling. The reasons why the WinterGarden dynamic can be said to be canonical is because it serves a narrative purpose in the story. It is something that was introduced by the show itself. It is tied up with Jeong-won's personal journey as well as GU's. But more so JW's because of his decision to go to the priesthood. Obviously she's learnt a lot from working with him. She's evolving. From the first time we saw them together, he took the trouble to pull her aside and correct her. I wouldn't be surprised if that's what started her liking him because she is someone who values straightforwardness.

 

To be honest I'm not a romance enthusiast where this show is concerned. I don't really care who else ends up with whom. I'll go along with anything really. But the friendship among the five is king. I only care about the Winter Garden duo because their story actually has direct bearing on keeping JW at Yulje and keeping him from making what I believe to be the biggest mistake of his life. Plus it has all the components and build up of a classic romance... in the style of Pride and Prejudice etc.

 

I also really loved Jae-hak's arc today. I teared up when he was gifted the box of strawberries. And that thank you note undid me. I too feel that Jae-hak has come a long way under Jun-wan's tutelage since we first saw him. He has the bedside manners but he always seems to me to lack the drive. A deliberate contrast with Gyeo--ul, I would think.

 

Jun-wan is another hero of mine. Despite his shrewish facade, he is a reasonable adult. He is so good with Ik-sun that I think it's a pity that he didn't fall for someone less careerist. I felt so sorry for him when he heard about her getting the doctorate program from Chi-hong. It certainly wasn't the ideal way of getting the news. But like the reasonable man that he is, he rang her and told her directly that he knew. It seemed like he wanted to tell Ik-jun about his relationship with Ik-sun but that didn't go anywhere. I don't know how he's going to handle that situation but he's definitely in for some rough waters. 

 

Rosa and Jongsu's banter was lovely as usual. I'm really glad that they have each other to confide about things they can't talk to anyone else about. I'm really liking Kim Kap-soo here. He's so benevolent and grandfatherly here that it's hard to believe he was such a villain in Chief of Staff. 

I appreciate Rosa's insight into Jeong-won. It confirmed a number of things that I was thinking about him and about why the writer set him up so deliberately with Gyeo-ul. He's a very sensitive... overly sensitive kid. I think the priesthood thing is definitely tied to his inability to have strong emotional boundaries.

 

Really enjoyed the band practice as well. Glad to see the acoustic guitar come out to play and for YYS to have a go at the microphone. He sounded really good especially on those higher notes.

 

[Peppyz 367]

Erm, how do I start? This is my first drama of this writer ,never watched any of the reply series or the prison playbook. So I wasn't even aware that there is a ship , fan war or signs to look out for which I guess has been their signature from their previous work. I came in because the I am a fan of YYS ,Jkh and JJS and I have been impressed bybthe story so far, how simple smd relatable it is.

I didn't even know we were bf or gf hunting until I read the soompi thread...lol.

Which brought me to the fact that I couldn't help but fell in love with doctor Jang and feels that she n J.won would make a cute couple and I am glad with the dev. so far. Since everyone has been looking for hints to support their ships, I'd decided to drop a little of mine that made me think this ship is gonna sail that's if it hasn't already.

1: I believe the writer won't waste much time on giving screen time n showing reactions from both of them when they are together... Which got me thinking that maybe there is really nothing complex about their relationship but just two people who started on the wrong foot n are gradually finding their way to each other.

2; the writer has made it a point to focus on the way they both greet each other which is always formal n the greeting has always been from Dr Jang compared to the other characters.

This form of greeting has made it obvious to the change that has occurred when jeong won later greeted her and it has to come in an informal mode coupled with a smile, why will the writer do that? Is that not a way for her to say " look the hints are in front of you already, no need to look far and incase you miss it cos of non Korean speakers ,let's Ik jun also say something about it, call the viewers attention to it.

3: what made me support this ship finally was the chocopie exchange; it was unnecessary but he still did it anyway and  for someone he claimed not to care for, coupled with the glances he gave her before pushing the chocopie towards her.

4: Also if jeong won doesn't care for Dr.Jang at all, he would have stopped IK jun with his persistent interrogation about his feelings for her since they are good friends and he won't have hesitated to call IK jun off. It would be lazy writing and so unnecessary if it was later shown that he didnt really care and it has only been done to mislead us. It will also look bad for IK jun character; cos that means he is blind as bat when it comes to his friend feelings and not empathetic enough in lieu if a better word. And the guy already has so much hate so I believe the writer won't want to add that to his flaws.( wish I had him as a friend ,maybe my love life would have gone better ...l

I have other thoughts but most of it has already been mentioned by others n I haven't even watched episode 10.

Hurray to whichever ship sails since I haven't been watching cos of ships whatsoever but for my own enjoyment. So it kinda funny when we are trying to proof which ship is gonna sail.....no offence to anyone please.

I love the 5friends banter and I can't wait for the day they would have to perform for the whole hospital.... New crushes are gonna be formed I am sure . Also IK jun is a tsunami and I kinda relate to his character.... The one who makes others laugh but people doesn't notice when they are sad  or have something going on with them.

Going forward ...impatiently waiting for the next episodes.

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19 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Needless to say Ik-jun was my hero today. I honestly don't know how he does it. It boggles the mind. He's a single dad, leads the band, does a ton of surgeries at the drop of a hat, interact with patients, lectures, plays match-maker, plays big brother and even dishes out homespun truths where needed. Amazing. Does he even sleep?

 

This, he is like, to good to be true. Such a rare male lead quality with all the thing he can do. Usually male lead have all the ikjun trait but with cold personality or you know, not funny. While ikjun is smart, an extrovert, can do anything, friends with everyone, single dad, leader of the group, perfect with his jobs, gag king. Seriously, whats not to like?

[sakura22 6,667]

33 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

But the thing I appreciate most about him, especially in this episode, is how he supportive he is of Gyeo-ul. I love how he barracks for her and makes himself her cheerleader. I've been wondering for a long time why he's been trying to so hard to bring them together. And now we know... He wants good and happy things for her because she does it tough. She picked one of the toughest gigs in the hospital and slogged her way through her residency from the first year. She's does it all without murmuring but seems to relish the work. Our girl has guts.

Frankly I can't help feeling that what Ik-jun said in this episode about GU's work ethic was not for Jeong-won but for the audience, particularly the detractors of her character from Day 1. All the pile on from a small part of the fanbase because she doesn't fit their idea of the ideal person for JW. JW's certainly not the one with the problem with GU. He knows her and likes her. He's come a very long way from "she's not my cup of tea". That's so clear that it's leaking all over the place in spite of the conflict within.  Sometimes I feel that he's not even trying to hide it either.  I hope we can finally bury the whole notion that this has been a one-sided crush. Please.

 

I really loved how Ik-jun framed his counselling session with JW.  Yes, he could be construed as a busybody but the way he approached it... wanting the best for the two of them... that was the right tack. And it should be the case. He showed a fair bit of wisdom and drew from his own life experience. Despite what he said though, I don't think it's about God vs Gyeo-ul.

 

I also really loved Jae-hak's arc today. I teared up when he was gifted the box of strawberries. And that thank you note undid me. I too feel that Jae-hak has come a long way under Jun-wan's tutelage since we first saw him. He has the bedside manners but he always seems to me to lack the drive. A deliberate contrast with Gyeo--ul, I would think.

 

 

@40somethingahjumma cut your post to the ones I would like to add or respond to. 

 

Anyone having a senior like Ik Jun as a mentor at work is really lucky. He doesn't only believe in her but he is also eager to groom her to her biggest potential potentially even to follow his footsteps or succeed him, he has also been providing her with opportunities through assisting him and even taking her side when needed. It trully shows a lot about Ik Jun's character when in addition to all this, he also is warm towards other residents, patients' family and get himself involved in some of the personal dilemmas and happiness too. I think this is realistic, but I know this kind is very rare nowadays. 

 

Aside from his passion towards work, what he said to Jeong Won about not ending up like him, makes me wonder if that was the main reason he was coping well being in a long distance relationship with his ex wife for many years, reacting somewhat still okay with the sudden divorce and only focusing on uju and his responsibilities at work. Perhaps he has been pretending and trying hard to keep himself and people around him happy despite not being with the person he trully loves. 

 

 

I am really pleased and proud of Jae Hak, in past episodes I didn't get the impression that he chose CS because of passion and although he showed a lot of empathy to the parents it didn't strike me that he actually enjoys and loves the job. Now, I realise even if CS is not exactly his original passion, but caring and saving his patients is the reason why he is in medicine. There is less story about his frugal behaviours and personal problems recently - I take it as a positive thing. 

 

@Ketu R I guess the mind would see, hear and think what the mind wants to believe.  I guess some people just enjoy and analyse things from a different angle. I don't know. 

My approach has always been to first try and understand the character and then interpret based on what is shown/focused by the story teller.  There are times when I predicted some things inaccurately, but generally, I've been able to follow the story or end game based on the story telling.  Other than that it is just safer for me to leave other theories different to mine and one that doesn't make sense to me alone. Not everyone would see eye to eye and not everyone would want to try to see it another person's perspectives. 

 

 

 

[maggiee 309]

I'm just so happy watching this episode that I can't comment anything about it. All of the moments feel so sweet. My heart is full 

[Uaenaforever 685]

38 minutes ago, Ketu R said:

I think we all are watching a completely different drama when I read this thread. Like flowergarden just seemed so done to me this episode. Like writer telling fans it's not song hwa when andrea spoke to his mom. Andrea song hwa scene just was so friend vibe. Her smile for him and asking him to marry was just like a friend or even a sister. And this was there first ever proper scene together. Why would they be put together in such an unromantic way of they are endgame? Also ik joon giving gywool flowers pushing her towards andrea there wasnt even a hint of jealously. How would they end up toghether. ? I really dont get it. 

 

Andrea did not deny ik joon when he said you like gyewool dont you? If he really dint wouldn't he jump he immidately say no I dont. Why stay silent. Even after ik joon says you are even thinking about leaving presiethiod for her. If he had someone else on his mind wont he atleast tell ik joon he was wrong? 

 

Song hwa flew to ik joon when he called. Took care of uju like his mother and sat down to breakfast like his wife. Her face right after he said eating with you is my treat I saw tears. What are people not seeing?? It has been obvious from the start that song hwa considers ik joon more than a friend. They always have the most scenes that are of the romantic nature.

 

Am genuinely confused by this other read. With reply series I really understood fan wars there was serious developments for both camps. But here I see nothing. No offense meant to anyone. I am just expressing my shock at all these interpretations. When there is literally so little to go on. 

I couldn’t agree more. Exactly my thoughts. I always ask my hubby about his opinion because he’s always unbiased 

In reply 1994 he guessed the husband right  from the beginning 

Sometimes we’re mislead, maybe because we tend to overanalize everything? 

I don’t know, but this time I think it’s cristal clear 

[ktcjdrama 46,378]

Jang been chasing JWon around to fish for compliment? Hmm, what I remember is her leaving immediately when JWon came into the resting room and when he leaned against the wall, she shifted away a bit  (ep.10), when JWon came to ask cigarette from IJ (ep.3). The only time she waited for JWon was in front of his office when she collected enough courage to ask him buy her dinner (ep.7). The impression I get is that she’s been avoiding him especially after he made up excuses not to buy her dinner. 

 

Btw, the scene of SongHwa asking JWon to help collect her purchase reminded me so much of myself ordering my younger brothers to help me because they’re taller and stronger than me. Yup, that’s the vibes I get from that scene. 

[romancetrash 730]

7 hours ago, nrllee said:

Yes, that was beautiful.  My heart broke for IJ this episode.  Just like the heavens weeping for him.    She’s not going to return in kind.  It was obvious from their conversation.  There was no meeting of the minds.  She would’ve made a lovely mother for UJu but I guess it takes 2 to tango.  She has to accept him.  Unfortunately for IJ, it looks like she’s low key accepted Andrea.  He gave her his heart (Daddy Long Legs) and she say yes.  They talk marriage and kids in an intimate setting.  Future stuff.

While I can understand where the implication of Flower Garden came from in this episode, I would say that the writer has to build foundation of their relationship from scratch (maybe not exactly scratch) if its true. Considering Songhwa confronted Chihong's feeling about her, why she never confronts Jungwon until now? If they truly love each other, and even single, why not give each other a chance? And they have no trauma or miss timing like IkSong in the past. Perhaps Songhwa feels hesitation toward Jungwon, but again, kinda inconsistent with her confronting Chihong.

 

If Jwon is a potential lover for Songhwa, it will be rectangular love, and I think isnt the writer style so far? But then again, the writer did say it was not the Reply series.

 

Also, Gyeoul has been heartbroken a few times now. Flower Garden becoming the endgame would end up hurting several characters (and me lol). If Songhwa also shakes Jwon's desire to be priest, he will be avoiding her and giving her cold shoulder, and basically treating her different from anyone else.

[bee_wannabe 1,194]

Right now, i'm a wintergarden shipper. And i'm so ecstatic seeing their progress in this episode. But as i said when i first came here, i was initially IJ GU shipper. I'm fine and open with any pairing as long as the drama can make me understand why this character ends up with this instead of this.

 

I can see the possibility of JW as SH first love. I can see the possibility that the "lets get married" remark can be SH's attempt to see JW reaction. But i don't see the same reaction from JW. I mean he had planned to quit medicine for priesthood since ep 1, almost a year ago, even before he moved to yulje. He had already planned to leave all his responsibilities (DLL and hospital management) to his friends, i think this is why he signed his friends to yulje knowing that his friends are all capable and reliable doctors hence opening up the possibility of one of them managing yulje in one way or another. 

 

If he loves/loved SH, then why is it that he hesitates about going to priesthood now, after he enters yulje? I mean isn't being a priest has always been his aspiration?  

 

During that 20 years of friendship they could have tried to make things work if they were really each other's first love. No one knew IJ's feelings to SH, so he's out of the equation. SHyeong was married, he's also out of the equation at one point. Even though SH dated some people, there must be times when she was single, and JW has always been single. So why not try to act on their feelings? It can be because none of them wanted to break the friendship between the 5 therefore both JW and SH chose not to follow their feelings.  

 

If that's the case then JW should have just gone along with his initial plan and become a priest. Hadnt he already given up his first love SH? So why of all time, he seemed to be questioning himself about his own decision now? Had he never questioned about it these past 20 years? Why now? At the time when GU entered into his life and bothered him? Is it all only coincidence? This is my biggest question for now.

 

This drama has always been good in the narrative, depicting real life event in a way that people can relate to. As long as they can explain or tell a narrative of why things happen the way they are, i'm willing to accept any pairings. And for now i'll just enjoy the pairing the narrative has given to me this far.

[Ketu R 486]

3 minutes ago, romancetrash said:

While I can understand where the implication of Flower Garden came from in this episode, I would say that the writer has to build foundation of their relationship from scratcg (maybe not exactly scratc) if its true. Considering Songhwa confronted Chihong's feeling about her, why she never confronts Jungwon until now? If they truly love each other, and even single, why not give each other a chance? And they have no trauma or miss timing like IkSong in the past. Perhaps Songhwa feels hesitation toward Jungwon, but again, kinda inconsistent with her confronting Chihong.

 

If Jwon is a potential lover for Songhwa, it will be rectangular love, and I think isnt the writer style so far? But then again, the writer did say it was not the Reply series.

 

Also, Gyeoul has been heartbroken a few times now. Flower Garden becoming the endgame would end up hurting several characters (and me lol). If Songhwa also shakes Jwon's desire to be priest, he will be avoiding her and giving her cold shoulder, and basically treating her different from anyone else.

Exactly if flowergarden was endgame why no confession until now?? Why would andrea even consider priesthood if song hwa was his love and she had feelings for him too?? Wouldn't they have confessed by now. Both have been single for many years. 

 

Ik joon at least was married for sometime. And iksong are shown to have history. Where is even a small hint of backstory for flowergarden? Andrea has more scenes with ik joon and of course gyewool than anyone else. Today was the only flowergarden scene. Even at 3 seasons shouldn't there be atleast an indication of romance between the two?

[rachel-moore 50]

I think we are forgetting about the most important couple, are Seok min and Sun bin actually dating or not ?

[nrllee 16,483]

26 minutes ago, romancetrash said:

But then again, the writer did say it was not the Reply series.

Was that a troll though?  There’s no reason for her to keep throwing this possibility at us?  There’s very few of us FlowerGardeners.  We’re on a little boat.  We will take what crumbs she throws at us.  IkSong and WinterGarden are Titanics.  So I agree that if she were to sink both ships it would take guts.  One gigantic iceberg in the form of FlowerGarden.  ChiHong is going to be turned down too from the looks of it?  I don’t see her moving towards a relationship with him either.  Andrea is definitely thawing out to Jang but I am waiting to see if he calls her GyeoUl-ah like IJ does.  Thus far it’s been very formal other than the AnYeong.  If anything he’s starting to treat her like he does Dr Bae which is a big improvement.   IJ has had multiple failings when it comes to picking pairings and judging relationships (like the liver transplant dad last week) - he still thinks ChiHong and IS are a thing.  I wouldn’t trust him to be a barometer of relationships.  So yes I agree it would be a massive outcry if she sinks what she built (but if you really look hard, it’s been unrequited love from the start?) so you could say she didn’t really lead the audience up the garden path.  Just as WinterGarden has been obvious to you from the start, I would say for FlowerGardeners we think the same - it’s there hidden right from the start.  Just different ways of viewing a plot line.  And that’s the beauty of her work.  It’s has multiple angles of viewing.  It really is up to her which way she wants to move.  I am happy she’s given us couple scenes this episode.  It’s been lean pickings for the past 9 episodes.  Whichever way she moves it’s a win for her.  If she feeds WinterGarden, there will be a collective sigh of relief for both Titanics.  But if she opts to feed FlowerGardeners, the outcry will be huge.  Probably big enough for the talk and chatter to continue till S2 and possibly S3.  People remember bad experiences more than they do good experiences.  It’s all in her hands.  Win win for her either way. 

[Ameera Ali 93,357]

@Lawyerh , @triplem , @kokodus @ktcjdrama @40somethingahjumma @im0202 oppa saying hi make me squeal so hard because I just rewatched oppa other scene &  I just notice
- oppa never say his first or great anybody 

- oppa never make it personal special with add name to his hi 
- he even never say hi first to other dr who he had share food with . 


~ what the hi mean ( I see you now ) 

~ him the other woman ( not interested) 

 

 

[loveiskim 3,042]

14 minutes ago, rachel-moore said:

I think we are forgetting about the most important couple, are Seok min and Sun bin actually dating or not ?

not (yet) 

[starwater0 1,052]

I'm gonna need some scenes of Songhwa and Uju when he's actually awake !!! We're missing so many cute moments of uju interacting with Songhwa and his other uncles

[Glide 701]

When IJ and JW smoke, my thought was like .. Has IJ returned 10000 won /  cigarettes and lighter to JW yet?   

 

 

[roli 1,238]

OMG...how are going to wait one week for another episode...my mind is going crazy...this is my only drama I am currently watching....no other one....and to think there is only 2 more episodes left....

I am also wishing for the couples to happend...but at the same time this story is so real...so could or could not happend...my favorite is the winter couple...but everything is still in the open...IJ...is my favorite...he really is carismatic, hard working but the most important he observes, look everything, pays atention to detail that is why he knows so much about his friends, the residents, hospital and etc..yes he can be naive with his sister and ex-wife...but he cares for everyone...he really is magic.....

[Ketu R 486]

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My attempt at an iksong fanfiction. If anyone is interested. Not very good, but I just had to get it out of my system. English is not my native language so please excuse mistakes.