Popular Post nhquan94 Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 5 hours ago, bee_wannabe said: Another comment stated that Chi-hong actually asked in past tense, but on the other hand Ikjun answered in present tense. Dear Korean expert friends, is it true? Just as a supplement to @bee_wannabe, - Chi-hong question is: 채송화 교수님 이성으로 느낀 적이 있으시죠? - Ik Jun reply: 응, 있어. 당연하지 (pause) 그게 궁금해? OK let analyze the question first. 1. The structure used is ㄴ/은 적이 있다/없다. Basically this structure used to ask about one's experiences in the past: Did you or didn't you at some certain points in the past do something. 2. The word he used is 이성 = opposite sex. So the friendship is eliminated. He is asking straight forward to man-woman feelings. 3. Considering the Korean culture, people are not asking direct question, they usually used the negative question to ask about something they want to confirmed. For example if they would like to know whether or not you like a movie, they will ask: Don't you like this movie? and we will answer: Yes I do = (OK I like it) or No I Don't = (totally not). They will never ask straightly: DO you like this movie? (ahhhh, what the culture....) However, in the question, Chi-hong used direct question. Plus if he used 있으세요? then the question will equal to "You did have feelings for SHwa Prof, don't you?". However he used 있으시죠, note that 죠 used when you know the fact and just would like to re-confirmed it. So literally the question is: I know that you did love SHwa in the past, do you confirm it? Why he choose to use this direct version, I have two ways to interpret it: - He would like to make clear his intention and he want IK Jun to confirm, no avoidance this time: IK Jun will you confirm that you loved her? This is a stronger version of the negative question. OR - part of him want to hear the opposite answer from IK Jun, he wanted to hear that IK Jun will say NO for this question and this means Chi-hong will have the chance for SHwa (you know, negative of positive is negative, so when Chi-hong asked "YES" actually he expected an NO). Interesting thing is, when Soo-bin first approached this question (where IJ made no comment) she used 느껴 본 적 있다, 없다? She give the 본 (tried) leaving here the uncertain, she also end the question with both options YES or NO mean she has no clue about the answer. Chi-hong in opposite, he knew, so he decide to go direct and leave no way-back for IJ. Now for IK Jun's answer: 1. He used present tense. You can interpret in whichever way you like: - Yes, now I have feeling for SHwa. OR - Yes I did have feeling for SHwa in the past (leaving the possibility of he still love her or not un-confirmed). I tend to the second option, since this seems to be just a grammatical structure. We will never said the past tense 있었다 for this type of grammar. 2. He used SURELY. Haha so the fact that he loved her is undeniable. How come I don't love her? 3. The interesting part is his counter: WHY DO YOU CURIOUS ABOUT THIS? Literally he wanted to ask Chi-hong (You think that who you are to her to ask this kind of question, or You think that who you are to her to curious about this matter?). Considering the fact that Chi-hong is just her Junior, and SHwa already wrote the line to him but he crossed it twice, Chi-hong cannot answer his question as we saw in the story. Seems that IJ is declaring war here, declare his authority to SHwa and Chi-hong will have to consider deeply what is his relationship with SHwa now, do he have the right to fight back? Just sum up, we all know that by drinking the wine IJ already implied that he loved SHwa and SHwa seems fine with it (she smile widely to IJ when he asked her Oh did I just teach the kids to use formal language pla pla....). The atmosphere just become awkward since the time Chi-hong brought it back again (poor Chi-hong, you did not do right this time). Wow can't believe that I wrote that long is for a 30 second screen time. 7 2 3 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JungRok Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Hi, do you guys have anything on Jeong Gyeo Ul character in the website - like translation of it? I watched this! I want to check if Gyeo Ul is really a track athlete! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspace Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Thank you all for the help @KDramaFan0828 @bee_wannabe @nhquan94 I am very blessed to meet all of you!! And seriously, Netflix need help from you @nhquan94 in order to give viewers accurate and detail translation for subtitle. Because it is very significant to more understand the story. 8 hours ago, nhquan94 said: Just sum up, we all know that by drinking the wine IJ already implied that he loved SHwa and SHwa seems fine with it (she smile widely to IJ when he asked her Oh did I just teach the kids to use formal language pla pla....). The atmosphere just become awkward since the time Chi-hong brought it back again (poor Chi-hong, you did not do right this time). And yees, I feel that too. To be honest, I disagree with comment that Ikjun's answer that create uncomfortable expression of Song-hwa. 1) The fist confession scene of Ep 10; 2) Ikjun's friendly or maybe flirty gestures in the elevator and 3) Ikjun no comment answers + drink the soju --> Songhwa still response it in postive way (smile faces). She started feel uncomfortable when Chi-hong give confronting question to Ikjun. So maybe the cause is not Ikjun confession but because she felt Chi-hong already cross the line and it happened in front of Ikjun -- and she was afraid that it would hurt Ikjun -- and it bothered Ikjun. That's why Song-hwa continue to feel uncomfortable until karaoke scene (seeing Ikjun low mood). Aigoo, I am sorry that I am still stuck at this scene while I should move on already 12 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorary Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 cant we had yoo yeok seok and shin hyun been doing couple magazine photoshoot?? maybe because of his build and her build was like a manga (tall buffy guy with small little girl) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Texas Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 "Nothing is sadder than a missed opportunity." 20 years is a long time to spend living your life before making up your mind about what you really want. Time does not stand still, and others do not remain at your beck and call. It is understandable how and why Song-hwa may be reticent an confused by Ik-joon's admissions, and there is really no reason for her to drop to her knees and give thanks or reciprocate. Conversely, the ardent attention of Chi-hong, while overtly direct and disturbingly off-putting at times, is at least honest...and fresh and new. He brings only love, without cumbersome and obligatory baggage. How would it be to get to really know him and enjoy him, away from the madding crowd and all the watchful eyes? He can visit Sokcho! He may be just "what the doctor ordered!" Love does not always stand the test of time. People age, have experiences, develop, change and adjust values, and with any luck, they grow up. Maturity means accepting disappointing circumstances and doing everything possible to live one's best life with respect to others and laws. Nobody gets everything right, but that doesn't mean it is plausible to be unrealistic. I hope Dr. Chae gets to know the man who was brave enough and man enough to let her know he wants her now. The fellow who has been circling for 20 years can always be a friend since that's what he decided he wanted at the beginning. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramageek Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 19 hours ago, winnerrrrrrrr444 said: I was wondering, did Jeongwon get around to telling the gang about his departure to Italy? Mama Rosa and Jeongsu found out from the other executive doctor (Dr Ju?) and I think Songhwa has an inkling when he told her to take over Daddy Long Legs, but the rest of the gang don’t know right? Or did I miss something? Jun Wan and Ikjun saw his recommendation letter (for italy seminary, if I am not wrong). So they kinda know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Ameera Ali Posted May 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2020 @Lawyerh @triplem @ktcjdrama The door theory Jeong Won opening a close door lead him to long time friendship .. ~ You know how exit signs are bright and red and at times we’re blind to what’s behind? The doors are just subliminal metaphors that lead us through life. We never know, but we take a chance and open it .. Spoiler .. A mere door , can give images of admiration ~ temptation ~protecting ~ desire ~ security ~ hesitation ~ greeting ~ respect If one were to give an account of all the doors one has closed and opened, of all the doors one would like to re-open, one would have to tell the story of one's entire life. # not inspired with hit the door jack 13 13 9 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kaizen68 Posted May 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2020 I just want to share it here. I haven't published this sticker, but I can't help. Shin Hyun Bin is so lovely omg 8 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ameera Ali Posted May 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2020 Our girl protesting until he change is mind from becoming priest # take it to the next level 2 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura22 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 it seems that some people are so hung up over a 20 years "unrequited" first love(s). Some people are lucky to marry or meet their first love again, yet in reality most moved on from theirs despite staying unrequited or ending it with a heartbreak. The most important thing is not their past, but their present. Their feelings today is what's more important, the person in their mind and heart - the one they wish to be with today is more important than their past. Their past first love carry much less weight than their current thoughts and feelings. In the end, it's good to remind ourselves that their individual present is their own choice. Our own bias and who we think "suits" them "better" are ours and not theirs. Their ending is their decision. To those pointing out how Gyeo Ul was introduced in Episode 1, has a good reasonable screen time and appears in every episode's preview - thank you. I would love to see more of Gyeo Ul and her growth. I hope the crying scene is not of Gyeo Ul confessing or asking (begging) him to stay. I would like Gyeo Ul to remains to respect herself and keep a high standards about her feelings. There is another surgery scenes with winter garden - so I am also guessing the possibility that this surgery, running and even crying scene may be related to this new patient (or present patient) and for them to save the patient. That Gyeo Ul is confiding in him the same way Jeong Won has been confiding in his priest brother. 11 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanallright Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Although it is quite impossible for JMD to get realtime all kill since her position on FLO haven't been moving and IU will take back iChart no.1 soon. JMD is getting the attention from the general public with her OST maintaining top position despite not having all kill 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helena Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Lists of Most Buzz Worthy Dramas & Actors [3rd Week of May, 2020] Good Data Corporation has shared its weekly rankings of the most popular dramas and cast members who have generated the most buzz over the past week! The company analyzed news articles, blog posts and online communities, videos, and social media from May 18 to May 24 for dramas that are currently airing or are set to air, and they revealed the results on May 25. The top 10 dramas that generated the most buzz for the 3rd week of May 1. SBS “The King: Eternal Monarch“ - 25.26% (+1) 2. tvN “Hospital Playlist” - 19.29% (+1) 3. MBC “Kkondae Intern” - 10.85% (NEW) 4. JTBC “Mystic Pop Up Bar” - 7.5% (NEW) 5. KBS2 “Once Again” - 6.8% - (+1) 6. tvN “Oh My Baby“ - 4.5% (-1) 7. SBS “Good Casting“ - 3.39% (+1) 8. tvN “When My Love Blooms” - 3.28% (-1) 9. KBS2 “Born Again“ - 2.9% (0) 10. OCN “Team Bulldog” - 2.57% (NEW) The top 10 drama actors that generated the most buzz for the 3rd week of May 1. SBS “The King: Eternal Monarch“ - Kim Go-eun (+7) 2. SBS “The King: Eternal Monarch“ - Lee Min-ho (+2) 3. tvN “Hospital Playlist” - Jeon Mi-do (+6) 4. tvN “Hospital Playlist” - Jo Jung-suk (+2) 5. MBC “Kkondae Intern” - Park Hae-jin (NEW) 6. MBC “Kkondae Intern” - Kim Eung-soo (NEW) 7. JTBC “Mystic Pop Up Bar” - Hwang Jung-eum (NEW) 8. KBS2 “Once Again” - Lee Cho-Hee (+40) 9. tvN “Oh My Baby” - Jang Na-ra (-2) 10. JTBC “Mystic Pop Up Bar” - Yook Sung-jae (NEW) Source: https://instagram.com/gooddata_official 17 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkokoa Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 guys, just curious who is your fav couple/pairings in this drama? mine is Iksong, I just feel like JJS and JMD have an amazing chemistry with each other, every time they are on screen together, there is something that make my heart flutter lol like there is some kinda tension. I almost ship them in real life but I know I can't. at first I don't know anything about this drama, one day I just feel bored and want to watch a light drama. tbh I feel weird that Songhwa is a professor bc she looks so young, most likely why chihong mistake her for an intern too. and also in the early ep, I definitely kind of ship Junwan and Songhwa bc of their closeness, actually i didn't expect Ikjun would be her love line at all, so I was really surprised at ep 6 like my reaction was totally like "WTF just happened?" LOL it has been a while since I ship a couple in a drama bc most of the time, it feels forced and the actors/characters don't have any chemistry at all, but Iksong is something else, I thank god there is season 2, or else I going to have the worst withdrawal ever 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wook's Fan Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, JungRok said: Hi, do you guys have anything on Jeong Gyeo Ul character in the website - like translation of it? I watched this! I want to check if Gyeo Ul is really a track athlete! Probably ya, since the posture she made before chasing the abusive Dad. And running with naked feet too. I hope all such moments we all (Winter Garden shippers) are imagining turn real. And can be shown as flashbacks (but I think that is too much to ask for the last episode....) Edited May 26, 2020 by Jillia Please do not quote videos! Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokodus Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 hours ago, sakura22 said: . That Gyeo Ul is confiding in him the same way Jeong Won has been confiding in his priest brother. Sorry to cut your post. Jeong won is the worst person to confide about these things though when he himself can't keep his emotions in check when a patient dies. I can totally imagine him telling to Gyeo ul "Yeah this is hard. C'mon let's go to Italy together and surrender ourselves to God" Hahahahahahahaha. Btw am I the only one who thinks Jeong won's first love is Gyeo ul? I know there is a statement in his character description about love in his 20s, but it could literally mean anything. In the drama they have constantly kept telling us that he has never been with a woman before. And I could believe it, a guy like him who is so devoted to god and helping others, he doesn't put his needs first. Hmmm anyways I could be wrong, but I don't want to overanalyze the character description and just enjoy the drama for what it is. 5 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wook's Fan Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, superspace said: Thank you all for the help @KDramaFan0828 @bee_wannabe @nhquan94 I am very blessed to meet all of you!! And seriously, Netflix need help from you @nhquan94 in order to give viewers accurate and detail translation for subtitle. Because it is very significant to more understand the story. And yees, I feel that too. To be honest, I disagree with comment that Ikjun's answer that create uncomfortable expression of Song-hwa. 1) The fist confession scene of Ep 10; 2) Ikjun's friendly or maybe flirty gestures in the elevator and 3) Ikjun no comment answers + drink the soju --> Songhwa still response it in postive way (smile faces). She started feel uncomfortable when Chi-hong give confronting question to Ikjun. So maybe the cause is not Ikjun confession but because she felt Chi-hong already cross the line and it happened in front of Ikjun -- and she was afraid that it would hurt Ikjun -- and it bothered Ikjun. That's why Song-hwa continue to feel uncomfortable until karaoke scene (seeing Ikjun low mood). Aigoo, I am sorry that I am still stuck at this scene while I should move on already Moreover, Now that she know that IJ knew that SeokH proposed her on that day, she might have got the hint that why he didn't come to meet her. In lieu of that, I would like to ponder on one more point... The most heart felt gesture from IJ till last episode, was his coming to the hospital (after his long night with surgeries at hospital) ,when SongHwa suspected that she had cancer. He even didn't go to his ex-GF, who invited her to her TV show set (though it first seemed like he is going there, but ended up at the hospital) . And when asked by SongHwa why he came, he clearly said, because he was worried, claiming for the first time that he has special feelings for her. Even Jun wan asked to accompany her, but once she declined he didn't go, nor did anyone except IJ, which is self-explanatorily denies all other ships. Edited May 26, 2020 by Jillia Please do not quote pics! Thanks! 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superspace Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Some evidence (maybe) about the theory of Ikjun knew all along about Junwan-Iksun: 1) He always asked Chi-hong about Iksun in front of Junwan -- maybe to tease him or to see what was his reaction (or this is just coincidence?) 2) As he could hear and recognize Gyeoul voice when she called Jeongwon, he also hear that when Iksun called Junwan. She clearly said she will come to Ikjun house and miss Uju. 3) Like Gyeoul flower bouquet mission, He used the same tactic to test Junwan --> He repeated loudly what Iksun said on the phone especially on Snow crab part. And luckily Junwan took the bait! LOL 4) He save Iksun as "Former Micky, currently Iksun" to again tease Junwan or maybe as a bullet to attack him one day if he need it (Iksun will be mad cuz Junwan had mixed her with Ikjun's dog. LOL) 5) He gave them quality time with excuse of studying for his conference. But of course Ikjun didn't want to waste that opportunity -- again to tease Junwan. He came back twice to see cute and panic reaction from Junwan. 9 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDramaFan0828 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, kokodus said: Btw am I the only one who thinks Jeong won's first love is Gyeo ul? I know there is a statement in his character description about love in his 20s, but it could literally mean anything. I think so too. The character profile just said that he had a love in his 20s and he got honor in his 30s, but being a priest was still his dream. No indication that this was a person HAHA As a whole, to me, the sentence implies possible paths he could’ve taken with respect to his profession. Maybe his 20s love was photography and his 30s honor was being a doctor??? IDK lol but yeah no clear indication that the “love” was romantic As compared to Songhwa’s profile which clearly talks about dating in the same paragraph of her first love, the paragraph for Jeongwon was talking about aspirations. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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