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[Mainland Chinese Drama 2019] Gank Your Heart 陪你到世界之巅

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10 minutes ago, angelangie said:

 

actually you didnt miss much :) 

 

they didnt get married hahaha....

 

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the part where XK got his bike back is shown :) 

 

Nooooooo that’s what I was hoping for really. Well that’s disappointing lol. 

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1 hour ago, angelangie said:

 

actually you didnt miss much :) 

 

they didnt get married hahaha....

 

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the part where XK got his bike back is shown :) 

 

 

With them still so young, early 20s, were people really expecting them to get married?  I don't know, I don't need every drama to end that way for it to be a Happily Ever After.  It's enough to know they're in a happy, established relationship, which means that eventually when the timing is right for them, they will.  ;)  

 

Just use your imaginations to keep the story going... for example, Team Phenix makes it to another World Championships and that's when he proposes.  :P  

 

 

 

@Roundcheeksandpitterpatter, welcome to the thread!  You can refer back to this post for the link to the special episodes: 

 

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1 hour ago, themarchioness said:

With them still so young, early 20s, were people really expecting them to get married?  I don't know, I don't need every drama to end that way for it to be a Happily Ever After.  It's enough to know they're in a happy, established relationship, which means that eventually when the timing is right for them, they will.  ;)  

 

Just use your imaginations to keep the story going... for example, Team Phenix makes it to another World Championships and that's when he proposes.  :P  

 

hahaha.....well some thought they wll fast forward the year pacing....though i like the ending or the special they did....it kinda give a closure to all the teams :) 

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9 hours ago, raziela said:

Same! I really would like to see QY and XK's relationship develop. I was disappointed that once they did get together their relationship didn't get much screentime or development and, to be honest, their interactions were not that different from when they were "just friends" except XK sometimes now puts his arm around her or they held hands. Still adorable but I was kind of hoping for more after the slow burn development of their relationship :sweatingbullets:

 

I really would have loved to see more interaction between XK and QY's family in his capacity as QY's boyfriend.

 

I totally agree about wanting to know more about XK background. Very strange for a male lead to be so mysterious! Who is he? Where is he from? What happened to his family? What did he do before he became a profession gamer? When and how did he meet Miya? Aside from his romantic history with Miya we know nothing about XK before joining Legends.

 

I wanted to see how QY survived after she left her family? Because considering she has been surviving on her own for about 5 years or so she sometimes is surprisingly naive in the drama. Yi Yi seemed to have more street smarts than her a lot of the time.

 

@angelangie Welcome to the thread! Great you are enjoying  the drama so far :)

 

 

Exactly, I also never seen a male lead being so mysterious, not knowing anything about him before he became a professional gamer, aside from his relationship with Miya.

 

And about Qiu Ying, I'm not really sure if she really survived through 5 years on her own. I think if she didn't have supports from any sort of relationship guidance, she must have had supports from her friends and stuff. I agree with you that Yi Yi seems to have more street smarts than QY a lot of times.

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3 hours ago, angelangie said:

 

hahaha.....well some thought they wll fast forward the year pacing....though i like the ending or the special they did....it kinda give a closure to all the teams :) 

 

Forgive the bluntness... but why would anyone have an expectation that there would be a time jump?  There are a lot of complaints about the ending I can understand, for example: hoping for a kiss when they were on the top of the building and/or wanting at least one more scene of the OTP together beyond just the reunion on stage at the world championships, but to anticipate a time jump when there was no indication that would happen... no offense, but that says more about the viewer's expectations than it does about the drama, and I don't think the drama can be faulted for that.

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10 hours ago, angelangie said:

 

actually i have finish the whole drama :D 

Wow!  That was fast! It took me about two weeks!

7 hours ago, Roundcheeksandpitterpatter said:

Hello guys! 

 

New member here also! Net searching after watching episode 35 made me go “huh, is this it?” I have been watching it on “dramavery” alllll the way from Australia (I am obsessed with Asian dramas and binge watch them before bed every night haha) but I can see on the episode list there is an episode 36 & 37 that are not viewable yet? So does this mean there are still two more episodes to go that just haven’t aired?

 

thanks so much   

Welcome to the thread!:)  The special epilogue episode @themarchioness linked in the post above gives closure for nearly all the characters.  I'm the same as you as I hadn't come to this forum I wouldn't even know there were special episodes showing the ending for everybody so I'm very grateful to the kind people on this thread :blush:

5 hours ago, themarchioness said:

With them still so young, early 20s, were people really expecting them to get married?  I don't know, I don't need every drama to end that way for it to be a Happily Ever After.  It's enough to know they're in a happy, established relationship, which means that eventually when the timing is right for them, they will.  ;)  

They are young but I've seen lots of characters in C-dramas get married in their mid-20s and younger so it wouldn't be unusual and XK was living with Miya when they were together.

At the beginning I thought XK and QY would end up married or at least living together because of how much QY wanted her own home and family but she is still Yi Yi's roommate at the end. I guess she found a "family" with Team Phoenix and she finally reconciled with her real family so having her own place was no longer as important.

 

1 hour ago, starangel001 said:

Exactly, I also never seen a male lead being so mysterious, not knowing anything about him before he became a professional gamer, aside from his relationship with Miya.

Right? XK is still a great character but it is very strange.  It seems like the only thing he did before joining Team Legends was be Miya's boyfriend!:lol: I assume there is more about XK in the web novel but the drama didn't bother to cover it.

 

1 hour ago, starangel001 said:

And about Qiu Ying, I'm not really sure if she really survived through 5 years on her own. I think if she didn't have supports from any sort of relationship guidance, she must have had supports from her friends and stuff. I agree with you that Yi Yi seems to have more street smarts than QY a lot of times.

Thank goodness for Yi Yi!  she is such a great best friend.  I loved how she would act like Qiu Ying's protective parent :lol:

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47 minutes ago, themarchioness said:

 

Forgive the bluntness... but why would anyone have an expectation that there would be a time jump?  There are a lot of complaints about the ending I can understand, for example: hoping for a kiss when they were on the top of the building and/or wanting at least one more scene of the OTP together beyond just the reunion on stage at the world championships, but to anticipate a time jump when there was no indication that would happen... no offense, but that says more about the viewer's expectations than it does about the drama, and I don't think the drama can be faulted for that.

 

“Says more about the viewers expectations?” Wow haha. The investedness in replies over a simple comment is amusing. All I was curious about was 1. What ep 36 & 37 was and 2. That I would’ve liked to have seen more. The fast forward was an example of progression so calm your farm. Did you produce it? Did your family? If so, I apologise. Differentiating opinions are not very welcome are they. Meow 

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@raziela Yeah, she's even more protective of Qiu Ying than Qiu Ying's own father hahaha Oh yeah, talking about QY's past, I actually want to know what did she do before she became a host. Okay, maybe she was just a university student, I guess. But if she cut herself off from her family, and if she had to survived herself, then she had to find a part time job for the university and stuff.

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On 9/9/2019 at 2:18 AM, starangel001 said:

I really love how protective he is towards Qiu Ying. And that first meeting with Xiang Kong also amused me as he is being protective towards his sister haha I'm also curious of how their dynamics will become, but as I can see, Xia Ling is starting to show his respect to XK as his captain, but as a brother-in-law, XK is getting there but not quite yet because he completely closed off on QY after Miya's return of an accident. However, XK is getting there, as long as he is good to QY, Xia Ling will surely cheer for them :) This makes me want to see season 2 of this drama. I want to know XK and QY's relationship developed, or how will the unexpected incident occurred (and I want to know about QY's past besides her family, and how she survived after she left her home if, IF she didn't have any supports (BF) back then, other than her best friend), how will our main leads face their problems together? How will XK's relationships with Xia Ling and QY's family developed? And will we see XK's family cause we never hear him talk about his family at all, or does he really have no family? Cause from what Miya had talked about her past with Xiang Kong was that they both were poor and couldn't even afford any food, so I wonder if he really don't have his parents...

 

Actually, I think we already get a glimpse of how XK and Xia Ling will juggle their dual relationships in the future given how they continued to live and work together after QY left.  He could've lashed out at XK after his sister made the decision to leave in the middle of the night.  Instead. he went along with the others and let XK and QY resolve their own issues.  It's almost as if they were able to compartmentalize their roles depending on how they were interacting in that particular moment.  Probably works out for the best and I've no doubt, they'll be forever happy teammates and extended family members.  ;)  

 

As for all your other questions, many of which are shared by @raziela, I think it's a testament to the drama that we are so curious to know more and eager to see more!  

 

Regarding XK's background, it's not so unknown as the drama implies it (and I think the novel is more explicit about it), but XK is an orphan just like Miya.  That's why their lives became so intertwined and how they grew up together.  As for how he's survived all these years, even going to university and everything, I think that's getting into the weeds of things that I'm not sure we really want to know the answer to.  It's kind of like wanting to know how QY was able to survive on her own after leaving her family.  Do we really want to know?  From what I can tell from the drama, however she's managed it,  it seems pretty unrealistic.  As an example, it does not escape my notice that somehow QY was able to purchase her apartment despite not using any money from her family and having an entrance-level job straight out of university.  There's no way that could happen in real life!  And so, IMO, it's better to not spend too much time wondering about such details and better to gloss it over and treat it as one of those drama truths, because otherwise you just want to facepalm as you think to yourself, "This is not possible..."  Kind of like how I struggle to ignore the fact that when QY left the Phenix training base, her room was still filled with her things but when XK entered it several hours later, the walls were nearly empty of all her things.  :P 

 

As for wanting to know how XK and QY's family will get along, I imagine very well.  There might be some initial hesitation given the behavior that XK has twice witnessed from Xia Ling's mother, but I imagine she would be apologetic for the things she said/did in the past and XK would know that even QY has reconciled with her.  We already know QY's dad approves of their relationship, and from the epilogue clip we know the parents like them so much that they're trying to cook a feast for them, and QY especially.  Definitely though, if I'm struck with any fanfic urges after I finish recapping this drama, I think the first 'official' meeting between XK and the parents would be an idea I'd want to tackle.

 

@raziela, as for your specific question about what XK did before he became a professional gamer, I don't think he's ever done anything else as I recall from that one conversation he had with QY (where he explains why he doesn't want to join a non-Chinese team) he mentioned being scouted while still in university after participating in an iConquer competition.  He joined the pros after graduating, but he didn't really hit the big times until Sun Ge hooked him up with Gu Fang and he joined Legends. 

 

[In the book, I remember @lynne22 telling me that Miya and XK's story was actually more depressing and pitiful in the book compared to the drama.  As in the drama, they're childhood sweethearts, but she eventually went to Korea for her career and he followed her there to to start a career in esports.  Both of them had a hard time getting their careers off the ground there (with XK having to take on extra jobs just to afford food), which is not so different from in the drama, I suppose, except that it sounds like in the book, you get to know more about their struggles.  Eventually, they separated and XK returned to China where things continued to be not easy.]

 

11 hours ago, raziela said:

Same! I really would like to see QY and XK's relationship develop. I was disappointed that once they did get together their relationship didn't get much screentime or development and, to be honest, their interactions were not that different from when they were "just friends" except XK sometimes now puts his arm around her or they held hands. Still adorable but I was kind of hoping for more after the slow burn development of their relationship :sweatingbullets:

 

I think @lynne22 once said it best when she described the time in which they "just friends" (but more or less dating based on their actions) as the time in which they acted more like a couple that was dating, and that once they were together officially, they acted more like a married couple.  I think that's why they came across as more low key after they got together.  Also, I think another reason for the "lack" if that's what you want to call it, is because the drama was never just about their relationship but also focused heavily on XK's journey to the world championships and the teams he lost, joined, and formed along the way.  We shouldn't forget that there were episodes in the middle where the OTP never even saw each other but would maybe exchange a text message.  One way to look at that data point is to think of it as confirming that the drama didn't give us enough scenes of the OTP together, but I actually think it serves to emphasize/remind that the focus of this drama and its story was more than just the romance.  

 

On 9/9/2019 at 2:18 AM, starangel001 said:

So I see the counterparts between Miya and Xiang Kong/Qiu Ying and Xiang Kong relationships there. If first love is not easily to forget, I'm sure last love is harder to forget and is stronger of hold; what I'm trying to say is that even though the first love between Miya and Xiang Kong are not easy to forget, but I think it would be even harder for Xiang Kong to forget Qiu Ying as his last love (IF she is his last love, but I'm sure she is) and their relationship will hold stronger, and even be deeper than his relationship with Miya back then.

 

There are definitely parallels between Miya and QY, so I can see why Miya was so convinced that XK was only with QY because she reminded him of her, just as how QY was able to be so easily convinced that XK was only with her because she reminded him of her.  But there are differences between the two woman as well, and those differences made all the difference with XK.  A big factor was he'd already given up Miya the minute he broke up with her and never looked back; he accepted then that they belonged to two different worlds.  He and QY, on the other hand, they belong to literally the same world since they're both involved in epsorts.  How handy for them!  ;)  Also, he has no reason to give QY up, so I agree.  Theirs is the relationship that is destined to go the distance!  :wub:

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1 hour ago, Roundcheeksandpitterpatter said:

 

“Says more about the viewers expectations?” Wow haha. The investedness in replies over a simple comment is amusing. All I was curious about was 1. What ep 36 & 37 was and 2. That I would’ve liked to have seen more. The fast forward was an example of progression so calm your farm. Did you produce it? Did your family? If so, I apologise. Differentiating opinions are not very welcome are they. Meow 

 

Um.  Well, first of all, I would say my reply was not directed at you.  Otherwise I would've either tagged your name or quoted one of your earlier posts to reply directly to.  Rather, I was replying to @angelangie's observation that there were "people" who had expected a time jump/fast forward.  And by "people," I assumed she was referring to people elsewhere on the Internet who had expressed disappointment over the lack of a time jump -- because I'm pretty familiar with all the posts in this thread and can assure you that prior to her post, no one here had complained about the lack of a time jump/fast forward or even mentioned the words "time jump" or "fast forward."  Even you didn't mention time jump, you had just expressed disappointment over the lack of a marriage, and marriage and time jump are two different things.  So I'm not sure why you felt personally attacked, but if you did, I apologize.  

 

1 hour ago, raziela said:

They are young but I've seen lots of characters in C-dramas get married in their mid-20s and younger so it wouldn't be unusual and XK was living with Miya when they were together.

At the beginning I thought XK and QY would end up married or at least living together because of how much QY wanted her own home and family but she is still Yi Yi's roommate at the end. I guess she found a "family" with Team Phoenix and she finally reconciled with her real family so having her own place was no longer as important.

 

Fair point, but I guess the way I see XK and QY, and knowing their characters and personalities, I would imagine them wanting to be more established before reaching that next step.  When she's more solid in her career.  When Phenix is a little less new (certainly winning the world championships helps with that, but now they've got to prove staying power).  That's when I imagine their stars will align for marriage.  

 

And hahaha, I've mentioned previously that there is one idea that keeps coming back to me as a fanfic idea and you've managed to stumble upon it.  It's related to QY's living situation at the end (because I had also imagined she would return to the Phenix training base once they reconciled, but the epilogues suggest otherwise).  Now I think I really will have to write it.  :P  

 

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21 hours ago, raziela said:

I would agree and I don't think I would have minded so much if we saw more of the business side like negotiating sponsors, liaising with officials, etc where saw her use her abilities but the drama made it seem like after the initial excitement of setting-up of the team QY's role was a glorified housekeeper. I couldn't see the driven and motivated QY settling for just that.

 

We did hear about QY meeting with real estate agents when they were trying to find a place to set up base and know she was an active participant in trying to recruit members, but processing paperwork to register for the iConquer competition was probably getting into the weeds of things and not worth portraying in the drama.  :P  I also doubt they had sponsors at this juncture (which again raises a lot of questions about where they got the funds to completely renovate the space - they added a whole kitchen! - and outfit it with furniture and equipment, but that's why I also said in my earlier post that sometimes it's best not to think about the realities and practicalities of things in dramas, and just gloss over details like this.... ;)), but I'm sure that after their world championship win there will be people knocking down their doors.  That's another reason why, if we imagine beyond the drama's ending, I think Shu Wen should join the team officially and if she doesn't want to handle corporate matters (since she didn't at VNG), she can be the coach and then maybe Gu Fang can join?  Because really, what has Gu Fang been doing ever since he retired other than traveling and taking a break???  Haha.

 

21 hours ago, raziela said:

Yes to all of this!  He was almost martyr-like.  He would calmly accept criticism and only retaliated if the people he cared about were affected like when Team Dragon (I think?) started badmouthing QY.  In the games he was the puppetmaster and tactician but the praise and glory went to the more showy players.  In another typical drama he would have had a breakthrough and become the star MVP player but that wasn't XY's modus operandi and he was fine with it as long as the team performed well.

 

YES!!!!  Exactly!!!  It is all the more impressive, IMO, that he was able to sacrifice himself while allowing others to shine without a care in the world.  That is so hard to do as it is human to want a little bit of recognition, even if it's just an acknowledgment that he's there behind the scenes.  But XK never cared about that and only cared about what was better for the greater good.  That is so hard to do!  Also, I like your observations about how he is not a typical drama hero.  It makes GYH that much more special in that way, I think, don't you?

 

21 hours ago, raziela said:

I'm actually surprised [Li Gan and Shu Wen] lasted as long as they did working together with their different mindsets and even lasted one day after the cringe worthy proposal stunt.  Who in their right mind proposes to a co-worker you are not even dating and has shown zero romantic interest in you? :blink: 

 

Ugh.  My goodness.  Your mention of that stupid proposal just makes me want to *headdesk* all over again.  Can. Not. Deal.  I think I already ranted about it when I posted my recap for that episode, so I won't repeat myself now, but gahhhhhh.  I just get so annoyed (probably irrationally so) whenever I'm reminded of that scene so I can't let it go by without more head bangs.  <_<

 

21 hours ago, raziela said:

That's what I was expecting would happen after she resigned from VNG: Shu Wen would become the coach for Team Phoenix and be able to coach successfully in the more flexible environment with players she liked and trusted....but that didn't happen and she was looking after Sun Ge's business and then becoming manager after QY.  I guess we will just have to headcanon that she became their coach too because it's a shame if her abilities were wasted.

 

I suppose someone needed to watch after The King while Sun Ge focused on the game, and Shu Wen was a logical choice by that point.  I've actually wondered, who takes over for Shu Wen when she becomes the team's manager?  Just as I've wondered how long do we think Sun Ge will remain with the team now that the world championships are over?  I actually always imagined this would be a one shot deal for him, returning to him the opportunity he once lost all those years ago, and that given his age and the fact that he already has The King to run, once this season was over, he'd return to his former life.  But he seemed just as happy as everyone else when XK announced a month long vacation from training, which suggests he's still part of the team, unless he was just happy for everyone else.  :P  Also, once Sun Ge leaves (and realistically speaking, I think that is not far off in the future, if not immediate) who do we think will fill his space?  I have a lot of questions about the drama and its beyond, as you can tell, and think about it a lot... :lol:

 

21 hours ago, raziela said:

:lol: Go ahead! You're among friends here ha ha!  I wish we could keep a kiss count too but there's not much to count when there was a grand total of 1 kiss -_- (I won't count the kiss XY forces on her before all the leaking tactics drama).


Yeah... the kiss count wouldn't be terribly exciting as the drama kept things pretty chaste in that regard.  But for the arm around the shoulders, the current count is 7... *ducks & runs*  LOL

 

21 hours ago, raziela said:

I would watch it so you have a guaranteed audience of at least one...so it probably still wouldn't last long :lol:

 

LOL.  Thanks, friend.  ;) 

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4 hours ago, themarchioness said:

 

Forgive the bluntness... but why would anyone have an expectation that there would be a time jump?  There are a lot of complaints about the ending I can understand, for example: hoping for a kiss when they were on the top of the building and/or wanting at least one more scene of the OTP together beyond just the reunion on stage at the world championships, but to anticipate a time jump when there was no indication that would happen... no offense, but that says more about the viewer's expectations than it does about the drama, and I don't think the drama can be faulted for that.

 

i have no idea lols.....just some viewers does expected more....however to me i like the pacing just fine.....like u said they are young :) i mean ppl nowadays dont get married till they are 30s? lols ahahaha....

 

the closure for me is good enough....and in here u does get the gist on how the pro league work :) a lil different from TKA, however the lines is the same :) and i love it just the same :) 

 

here u get to see how a pro gamer had to start over and in this part XK is not the invisible player or the legend however he is one of the acknowledge top player that is good in the strategy.....that is his main attractions.....in GYA it does not only involve in killing players however also conquering the tower / crystal :) it is very alike to the game i use to play where we went to war to conquer the tower :D 

 

sorry i got carried away when i talk about gaming :D my bad....

 

about the relationship in between them all honestly i love how they tie it up.....when we see the ending and how everything was finalize it was a lil lacking honestly....however after seeing the special im good with it :D at least they give us a special edition tying all the loose end....that for me.... :) 

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6 hours ago, starangel001 said:

@raziela Yeah, she's even more protective of Qiu Ying than Qiu Ying's own father hahaha Oh yeah, talking about QY's past, I actually want to know what did she do before she became a host. Okay, maybe she was just a university student, I guess. But if she cut herself off from her family, and if she had to survived herself, then she had to find a part time job for the university and stuff.

It probably actually haven't been that long since she graduated. Assuming she moved out when she was 18 after she graduated from high school, she would only be 23. 23 also make sense for XK since 25 would be considered old in the esport world (assuming the same age for the otp ofc). She was a reasonably popular streamer in the beginning of the drama, and just transferred to the iConquerer section, so she could have started as a university student, which isn't that unusual as part time job these days.

 

I did find the fact she paid down payment for a pretty spacious apartment in what looks like Shanghai? kind of hilariously impossible. Even if it's in Hangzhou or something, it's pretty outrageous, but she could have had a insurance money/trust fund left by mum (I've seen this before in novels...). Being a streamer could get her lot of money but they all have companies behind them to promote and strategise to make big bucks, and she doesn't. 

 

Anyways, she's younger in the book, still in university and no apartment to her name, she just rent a place, because streaming in dorms is inconvenient. Being a streamer is actually the highest paying part time job she could find, which I find fairly believable. She mostly use it to pay for rent and university (which depending how well she did in university entrance exam, could be pretty cheap, first tier universities are all public universities I think, they are all subsidised. e.g. Fudan University, cursory search seems to say 5~6k rmb/year. Generally private universities might be 10~20k?).

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19 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Definitely though, if I'm struck with any fanfic urges after I finish recapping this drama, I think the first 'official' meeting between XK and the parents would be an idea I'd want to tackle.

Please do! I would love to read it.

 

19 hours ago, themarchioness said:

@raziela, as for your specific question about what XK did before he became a professional gamer, I don't think he's ever done anything else as I recall from that one conversation he had with QY (where he explains why he doesn't want to join a non-Chinese team) he mentioned being scouted while still in university after participating in an iConquer competition.  He joined the pros after graduating, but he didn't really hit the big times until Sun Ge hooked him up with Gu Fang and he joined Legends. 

 

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[In the book, I remember @lynne22 telling me that Miya and XK's story was actually more depressing and pitiful in the book compared to the drama.  As in the drama, they're childhood sweethearts, but she eventually went to Korea for her career and he followed her there to to start a career in esports.  Both of them had a hard time getting their careers off the ground there (with XK having to take on extra jobs just to afford food), which is not so different from in the drama, I suppose, except that it sounds like in the book, you get to know more about their struggles.  Eventually, they separated and XK returned to China where things continued to be not easy.]

 

Thanks for some background.  I do wish the drama had gone into more detail so we could better understand how XY became the person and player he is today but as I said XY was still a very compelling character regardless.

 

19 hours ago, themarchioness said:

I think @lynne22 once said it best when she described the time in which they "just friends" (but more or less dating based on their actions) as the time in which they acted more like a couple that was dating, and that once they were together officially, they acted more like a married couple.  I think that's why they came across as more low key after they got together.  Also, I think another reason for the "lack" if that's what you want to call it, is because the drama was never just about their relationship but also focused heavily on XK's journey to the world championships and the teams he lost, joined, and formed along the way.  We shouldn't forget that there were episodes in the middle where the OTP never even saw each other but would maybe exchange a text message.  One way to look at that data point is to think of it as confirming that the drama didn't give us enough scenes of the OTP together, but I actually think it serves to emphasize/remind that the focus of this drama and its story was more than just the romance.  

I do understand your point but I think they could have covered the plot and showed their romantic relationship a little more. Obviously it didn't help that they threw a Miya shaped scanner in the works so the OTP were broken up for the last four episodes. We only really got 5 episodes of them dating and there was so much other plot to cram in during those scenes.

 

19 hours ago, themarchioness said:

And hahaha, I've mentioned previously that there is one idea that keeps coming back to me as a fanfic idea and you've managed to stumble upon it.  It's related to QY's living situation at the end (because I had also imagined she would return to the Phenix training base once they reconciled, but the epilogues suggest otherwise).  Now I think I really will have to write it. 

I'm ready and waiting to read! :lol:

 

18 hours ago, themarchioness said:

That's another reason why, if we imagine beyond the drama's ending, I think Shu Wen should join the team officially and if she doesn't want to handle corporate matters (since she didn't at VNG), she can be the coach and then maybe Gu Fang can join?  Because really, what has Gu Fang been doing ever since he retired other than traveling and taking a break???  Haha.

LMAO!  So true!  It really seemed like he was just on holiday for three quarters of the drama!:lol:

 

18 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Also, I like your observations about how he is not a typical drama hero.  It makes GYH that much more special in that way, I think, don't you?

Definitely agree.  A refreshing change from the overbearing presidents and arrogant and aloof leads.

 

19 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Fair point, but I guess the way I see XK and QY, and knowing their characters and personalities, I would imagine them wanting to be more established before reaching that next step.  When she's more solid in her career.  When Phenix is a little less new (certainly winning the world championships helps with that, but now they've got to prove staying power).  That's when I imagine their stars will align for marriage.  

 

And hahaha, I've mentioned previously that there is one idea that keeps coming back to me as a fanfic idea and you've managed to stumble upon it.  It's related to QY's living situation at the end (because I had also imagined she would return to the Phenix training base once they reconciled, but the epilogues suggest otherwise).  Now I think I really will have to write it.  :P  

Definitely not marriage yet but living together as a couple would be feasible.

Yes, please do write it. I would love to read your fanfic as I really need more of this couple.  No pressure, of course:sweatingbullets:

 

18 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Ugh.  My goodness.  Your mention of that stupid proposal just makes me want to *headdesk* all over again.  Can. Not. Deal.  I think I already ranted about it when I posted my recap for that episode, so I won't repeat myself now, but gahhhhhh.  I just get so annoyed (probably irrationally so) whenever I'm reminded of that scene so I can't let it go by without more head bangs.  <_<

 

I was soooo confused because there was zero indication they were dating.  However, I know some C-dramas can be very unrealistically chaste with couples showing very little affection so I thought maybe that was the case.  What a relief when I saw the discussion here which made it clear our awesome Shu Wen was not romantically interested in LG! 

 

18 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Just as I've wondered how long do we think Sun Ge will remain with the team now that the world championships are over?  I actually always imagined this would be a one shot deal for him, returning to him the opportunity he once lost all those years ago, and that given his age and the fact that he already has The King to run, once this season was over, he'd return to his former life.  But he seemed just as happy as everyone else when XK announced a month long vacation from training, which suggests he's still part of the team, unless he was just happy for everyone else.  :P  Also, once Sun Ge leaves (and realistically speaking, I think that is not far off in the future, if not immediate) who do we think will fill his space?  I have a lot of questions about the drama and its beyond, as you can tell, and think about it a lot... :lol:

I thought that this was a one-shot deal also.  But I suppose as he is integrated into the team and clearly still has his skills they don't see any reason for him to leave just yet.  It's not like Gu Fang who was clearly deteriorating as a player.  In the meantime, they can start to take on some reserve players and build up the strength of the team. I also found the whole you are over the hill at 30 in e-sports a bit much. The drama acts like hitting 30+ is a step away from losing all your physical and mental faculties.:rolleyes:  I just don't find it believable that a game which relies on reflexes and using your brain would be that different for a 25 and a 30 year old.  It's not like they are gymnasts or something! 

 

18 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Yeah... the kiss count wouldn't be terribly exciting as the drama kept things pretty chaste in that regard.  But for the arm around the shoulders, the current count is 7... *ducks & runs*  LOL

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4 hours ago, raziela said:

I do understand your point but I think they could have covered the plot and showed their romantic relationship a little more. Obviously it didn't help that they threw a Miya shaped scanner in the works so the OTP were broken up for the last four episodes. We only really got 5 episodes of them dating and there was so much other plot to cram in during those scenes.

 

I hear you and I feel you, I do, I really, really do.  I think general consensus is we loved these characters so much we would've liked to have seen MORE.  I know I do.  Just give us more of them being happy, sweet, and cutesy, please!!  But on the other hand, I guess it's kind of like a bag of chips?  Whenever you get the snack size, you want more, but when you get the full size bag, it doesn't take long to get sick of them.  So maybe that's what the drama was doing to us... they were giving us the snack sized bag of JXK and QY!  :P  

 

4 hours ago, raziela said:

I thought that this was a one-shot deal also.  But I suppose as [Sun Ge] is integrated into the team and clearly still has his skills they don't see any reason for him to leave just yet.  It's not like Gu Fang who was clearly deteriorating as a player.  In the meantime, they can start to take on some reserve players and build up the strength of the team. I also found the whole you are over the hill at 30 in e-sports a bit much. The drama acts like hitting 30+ is a step away from losing all your physical and mental faculties.:rolleyes:  I just don't find it believable that a game which relies on reflexes and using your brain would be that different for a 25 and a 30 year old.  It's not like they are gymnasts or something! 

 

I'm sure it depends on the individual versus there being a clear cut off like, "You're 30, you're old, so get out."  But I don't think its unrealistic either to think that your prime years are going to be when you're younger and that it gets harder as you age.  The reality is people's reflexes will get slower as they get older.  In the case of an esports athlete, I would also imagine that the hands would become aged from years of practice, training, and playing; and that the body would lose stamina as a whole.  Even one year can make a difference the older you get, so I don't think it's that crazy a notion.  Aging out was a concept explored in "The King's Avatar" as well.  But as was noted in both dramas, speed and reflex aren’t everything so I think it's possible for players to bring different skill sets to a team and still be competitive and formidable, even if they are an older player.

 

4 hours ago, raziela said:

Yes, please do write it. I would love to read your fanfic as I really need more of this couple.  No pressure, of course:sweatingbullets:

 

*whispers*  Okay.... ^_^

 

19 hours ago, skibbies said:

I did find the fact she paid down payment for a pretty spacious apartment in what looks like Shanghai? kind of hilariously impossible. Even if it's in Hangzhou or something, it's pretty outrageous, but she could have had a insurance money/trust fund left by mum (I've seen this before in novels...). 

 

I'm glad it wasn't just me.  And I can only assume YY had help from her family because when QY moved in with her and we saw what her place looked like, i found it even more incredulous than QY's.  It had two levels.  Even if the second floor turns out to be a loft (can't say for certain since we never saw it), it suggests she had at least had two bedrooms.  That could not have been cheap!  As for where the drama was set, I think (?) the drama was hinting at Shanghai.  But as for where it was actually filmed, it was definitely filmed at least in part in Hangzhou.  I like looking up locations to see if I can find the real place and I know Hellolala Cafe is in Hangzhou.  I think that convenience store where QY gets drunk is too. I was also able to locate one of the bars where they would sometimes hang out, but I can't remember where it was located now.  :P 

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2 hours ago, themarchioness said:

I hear you and I feel you, I do, I really, really do.  I think general consensus is we loved these characters so much we would've liked to have seen MORE.  I know I do.  Just give us more of them being happy, sweet, and cutesy, please!!  But on the other hand, I guess it's kind of like a bag of chips?  Whenever you get the snack size, you want more, but when you get the full size bag, it doesn't take long to get sick of them.  So maybe that's what the drama was doing to us... they were giving us the snack sized bag of JXK and QY!  :P  

Glad you understand how I feel! I just wanted MORE! :lol:

 

2 hours ago, themarchioness said:

I'm sure it depends on the individual versus there being a clear cut off like, "You're 30, you're old, so get out."  But I don't think its unrealistic either to think that your prime years are going to be when you're younger and that it gets harder as you age.  The reality is people's reflexes will get slower as they get older.  In the case of an esports athlete, I would also imagine that the hands would become aged from years of practice, training, and playing; and that the body would lose stamina as a whole.  Even one year can make a difference the older you get, so I don't think it's that crazy a notion.  Aging out was a concept explored in "The King's Avatar" as well.  But as was noted in both dramas, speed and reflex aren’t everything so I think it's possible for players to bring different skill sets to a team and still be competitive and formidable, even if they are an older player.

You do make a good point about the effect on the hands.  They would be susceptible to wrist, elbow, back and finger injuries and years and years of this probably would speed up deterioration even if they are only in their early 30s.

 

22 hours ago, skibbies said:

Anyways, she's younger in the book, still in university and no apartment to her name, she just rent a place, because streaming in dorms is inconvenient. Being a streamer is actually the highest paying part time job she could find, which I find fairly believable. She mostly use it to pay for rent and university (which depending how well she did in university entrance exam, could be pretty cheap, first tier universities are all public universities I think, they are all subsidised. e.g. Fudan University, cursory search seems to say 5~6k rmb/year. Generally private universities might be 10~20k?).

Thanks for the background in the book.  That sounds plausible.

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I keep forgetting to mention that ever since GYH, and discovering Wang Yibo, I’ve been watching random episodes of “Day Day Up,” a Chinese variety show, because Yibo is one of the hosts of the show. Anyway, imagine my surprise when I clicked on an episode from 2016 and discovered that at that time, they had an “intern” helping them on the show and it was none other than the actor who played Pei Xi! 

 

It delights me to think that the two actors already knew each other from before they started filming, just as it still amuses me to think that the actress playing Yi Yi was one of Yibo’s “students” from Produce 101 (China). ;) 

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7 hours ago, themarchioness said:

I'm glad it wasn't just me.  And I can only assume YY had help from her family because when QY moved in with her and we saw what her place looked like, i found it even more incredulous than QY's.  It had two levels.  Even if the second floor turns out to be a loft (can't say for certain since we never saw it), it suggests she had at least had two bedrooms.  That could not have been cheap!  As for where the drama was set, I think (?) the drama was hinting at Shanghai.  But as for where it was actually filmed, it was definitely filmed at least in part in Hangzhou.  I like looking up locations to see if I can find the real place and I know Hellolala Cafe is in Hangzhou.  I think that convenience store where QY gets drunk is too. I was also able to locate one of the bars where they would sometimes hang out, but I can't remember where it was located now.  :P 

I clearly remember Yiyi saying Qiu Ying's apartment was bigger than hers too, and I was SO confused when we finally saw YY's place, because it's definitely bigger! She had a kitchen, a dining room, a little sitting space in addition to a proper living room, excuse me? I do think it's just a loft and they are probably sharing a bed, so upstairs might just be bed and little bit of wardrobe space. Since there's no reason YY would have a two bedroom place and no roommate. I also got the impression YY rents the place, since she was jealous that QY paid for her own apartment. Still expensive and there's little reason why early 20s would rent a loft, since YY is not a streamer. But I know that's nitpicking XD

 

I assumed it was Shanghai because other cities probably don't have TWO top tier esport team in their city. But dramas set in Shanghai usually have fairly clear indication they are set there (see the other two esport dramas), I'm guessing they purposely blurred out the setting. I think it's possible to pay down payments for QY's place in a second tier city, just not anywhere in the Yangtze River delta, because it's too expensive. Maybe it's second handed (even though it doesn't look like it :P)?

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Please can anyone explain to me regarding the revelations in episode 28 about Li Gan borrowing against a mortgage (I think) to pay for the trip to Canada?  I don't understand why Sun Ge decided to leave the team because of it. *confused*:unsure:

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On 9/13/2019 at 8:35 AM, raziela said:

Please can anyone explain to me regarding the revelations in episode 28 about Li Gan borrowing against a mortgage (I think) to pay for the trip to Canada?  I don't understand why Sun Ge decided to leave the team because of it. *confused*:unsure:

Right after the flashback between Li Gan and Summer, Summer mention (to XK and QY) Li Gan basically used the 300k to force Sun Ge to leave, because he had a massive crush on Shu Wen. Sun Ge knew it was everyone's dream to go, so he used the excuse that his parents weren't well and need to help out with family to quit. To Shu Wen, he was a quitter due to that (and broke their promise) and never quite forgave him.

 

Unrelated, I totally forgot to mention. While I was watching the drama, somewhere around when XK was at VNG. we noticed the team uniform in OP but we totally couldn't recognise half the team, eventually pin point Sun Ge, pinpointed Xia Ling way later. Anyways, I totally thought that the Pioneer team would pool money together for Phenix? For Sun Ge, for their world championship dream, and also because XK was like Gu Fang's handpicked protege, Pei Xi is obviously related to Summer, Shu Wen already knows half the team and could be team coach, Luo Tian is little distant but is still pretty related to the team. They would all have saving and all too, but that never happened, I was pretty surprised. I mean they gave their base to them, so it was passing along, and they totally helped too, but I expected financially too??

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