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[Drama 2019] Everyone’s Lies/The Lies Within, 모두의 거짓말

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7 hours ago, nrllee said:

As suggested by @bebebisous33, Chairman Jeong might have wanted Assemblyman Kim dead.  He didn’t seem particularly devastated that SH was also “missing”.  Did he have people keep SH away in hiding (maybe his henchman and KPY?) because he knew SH would be against the “accidental death” of Assemblyman Kim?  Hence the cover up...with business trip... Somehow something went horribly wrong here, SH escapes (?), gets captured by some other party who were happy to amputate his hand as a warning.  Chairman Jeong would not have ordered this.  SH was his only son.  He was visibly shaken when the hand was identified as SH’s.  Hence his angry outburst telling his henchman to track down KPY and bring SH back alive.

 

Thanks for updating the timeline, made things clear for us.  JQ solar plant in Song-ju is a joint venture which required government oversight of the plant run by a private company. What JQ wants is someone that it can bend at its will.  Assemblyman Kim supported the unionmen who worked at the Mixed Concrete company.  He also is not one who supports big conglomerate and businesses so Sang Hoon was supposed to buffer the relationship for JQ.  Why kill him if you don't have a plan to replace with a man that will work for JQ? That's a little odd for me.  Why would JQ chairman kill his inlaw with no one to replace him?  Who was going to be their candidate?  Seo-Hee? But she is divorcing Sang Hoon.  BTW, Assemblyman Kim was going to leave his district seat open anyway if he wins so JQ could have waited until then to "shuttle" in its own candidate.  The person who kills Kim perhaps is doing the opposite, harming JQ's collaboration and progress.  I see all your points regarding a plan that originated by JQ to kill Kim went array with Sang Hoon going rogue.  We'll have to wait for the next episodes to see if the puppetmaster is a union sympathizer.

 

The only one that is computer savvy to send the msg for me at the moment is Ho-Kyu.  :lol:  I watched Secret of Forest, the person on your team is the person you least suspected @triplem Kim Yong Pil is being set up as the fall guy to make others see Kim's death and Sang Hoon's kidnap originated from the disgruntled union worker.

 

Why did Seo-Hee marry Sang Hoon? Is it out of love or to benefit her father?  Her mom did state that her father is not as honorable as we all think.  Did he win his district with JQ's help?

 

Going in back to the scene at Sang Hoon's apt.  As a photographer who shoots natural light, Sang Hoon would have some knowledge of lighting and solar paneling.  I am guessing he already has an idea of the alternative site for the solar plant.  

 

We still don't know how the dead girl is involved in our story.

 

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Seo-Hee may know where he is hiding

 

 

@jongski welcome on board, good to see you.  Post away.

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So I'm done with episode 2.  The mystery for this drama is who killed  the father, who kidnap and chop the hand of  the husband, who sent the video, and who is the mastermind behind all of these.

 

I like this drama already as I said in previous post. I like when drama has emotions that swirl around a solid storyplot and good characters like the reason SH is running,  the mystery with  the Father's death, and why husband is missing, wether he's alive or not  SH emotions  and her struggles situation.  I like the acting too for this. 

 

I feel for SH. Her life is just full of misery and tragedy with what happened to her father and to her husband. She was likely  pushed into marrying JSH for political and business partnership.  Her father was well loved and was going to run for President, JQ conglomerate needs politcal hold so they can do business without (as per Ep 1)

 

@bedifferent  Thanks. Same with you with Ho Gyu.  I think there is twist to this. We should also  not forget Ho Gyu used to work for JQ (as per episode 1). But it wasn't clear  and wasn't mentioned what kind of job he did. We do know he wanted to be transfered to the Information Division. So I'll assume he's good with computers. I mean writer wouldn't have his character be working for JQ previously for nothing. Maybe latter episodes we'll know.  It could be farfetch idea but this is kdrama,  you'll never know.  In Ep 2 scene s When SH opened her laptopomebody sent her a mysterious video of her husband and how the hands was chopped. Who could have sent it?

 

With the woman who commited suicide,  if we're going to base from the  scenes, after the suicide,  Sang Hoon was in despair, punching the  glass window, wailing crying, curled on the floor with bloody hands. Then his next scene is with Kim Seung Cheol, they were arguing.. and clearly it was about the one who commited suicide. SH telling father in law if he's afraid  his reputation will collapse in one blow  and that  she will never take her own life (as per sub) asking KSC doesn't even care or feel guilty of what happened . KSH said it won't change anything, to which Sang Hoon said whether it changes anything or not he will do everything in his power. Starts to ask "when did things that start to go wrong?  what is hidden?  Why did she have to suffer such tragedy (as per sub) then Sang Hoon said he will find out everything then left. I'm going to assume they were arguing about the woman who jumped  from the roof.  I wonfer if that woman is related to one of the characters.

 

 

The mystery for me is Young Min. Not sure what his character is. But we saw the photo with Sang Hoon. Then Seo Hui talking to him, about husband. Are they close.... SH and YM?  Afher her husband's argument with her father she followed him outside  She asked if he's seeing another woman. SH said she was going to hand divorce papers. We saw the papers  in the car. But it seems she loves her husband judging from the dream.

 

Anyway after watching episodes 1-2, and with everything that's been happening,  I suspect more the right hand man of the chairman.  After all he did say KSC brought them a lot of distress and now that the obstacle is gone, they need a new candidate , someone that can bend to their will (as per sub).  He's the one who shed tears (and I'm thinking if it's real), the one who pushed the enveloped to Seo Hui's mother, the one who was talking to them, asking/requesting/guilt tripping by saying how good KSC was, and that the party needed somebody from his family to continue legacy.  Of course he's doing this after what the chairman told him  when he handed the cactus

 

 But I don't suspect yet the chairman, but he could be the mastermind.  These are just my theories I could be wrong.

 

So I enjoyed the mystery for this but if there's a gripe for me watching the first two episodes,  I find the short haired  lady partner investigator annoying. I like the efficiency of Tae Sik but I get irritated with the partner.

 

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14 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

The chairman of JQ Group reproached his right-hand man In Dong Koo to be the cause of all this. This means that the latter had developed a strategy which the chairman approved but since his son has been hurt, in his eyes IDK is to blame. This makes me think that the chairman of JQ might have approved KSC's death, maybe in order to stop his son from investigating further. The woman had already been killed (faked suicide) but instead of destroying the alliance,  

 

What also caught my attention were the words In Dong Koo told to Kim Pil Yeon: "Where is JSH hiding?" 

 

Since we saw JSH running in the woods barefoot, it means that he was still close to Sonju. He definitely met someone else there.    

 

I'm thinking along these scenarios, based on the first two episodes and preview of the third one:

 

1) KSH can be the ultimate unreliable narrator because we are being shown flashbacks she remembers - that could be the biggest twist and also fit into the title 'Everyone's Lies / The lies within.' Maybe she has a double / split personality, kills everyone who comes near or between her and her husband, and father and husband were trying to protect her, but she killed them anyway. I also don't know why anyone would want her to run for anything, given her meek personality, when there is a successful (so we are told) elder daughter who has done well for herself and would be more presentable. HMK probably only wanted her to run to make her lose and then take the place of her father in the party. But for someone else to suggest it in a video means it could be KSH herself, telling herself to run for election.

 

2) JTS and KSH are a pair of serial killers pretending to not know each other but killing people left, right and center (highly unlikely at this point.)

 

3) JSH went into hiding and is working with someone to eradicate people who stand in his way - and is then double-crossed - shocking his wife. who will then kill him when he comes after her. 

 

4) The other scenario - and the only plausible one - is that despite the marriage being arranged between a politician and an industrialist (though we don't know how JSH and KSH two got together), JSH and KSH had a loving marriage and both will do anything for the other: the picture of sunset in his office is taken by KSH (a correct photograph of the same sunset is right next to KSH's photo in his office, which the investigator JTS notices on the shelf and actually does say how could a trained photographer take a bad shot.) JSH found out that his father was pressurizing KSH' father, KSC, over the land deal, so he came back to do the right thing. He and KSC find corruption and links between politicians and JQ (e.g. HMK or others and JQ chairman) which do not safeguard rights of citizens / workers, and set out to expose them. But he also finds out that he is not the only son of JQ chairman - (my guess is the suicide girl and young investigator, JHK are chairman's other children, that's why chairman simply told his right hand man IDK to 'handle' the situation - IDK killed the girl and abducted JSH so that he doesn't expose any secrets, KPY was holding him, but JSH escaped, and is then caught by the actual killer of KSH's father and his eventual hand-cutter - the young investigator JHK - who wants KSH to campaign because he knows she is the only one who will expose everything if he can bait her with getting her husband back alive. I think JSH is alive right now with an intact hand (the only reason why his hand was identified as his is the coroner, YSJ and I don't trust her; she probably is JHK's mother and lying), in the end JSH will end up dead, chairman will kill himself once exposed, JHK will either get caught or die, JYM will become the chairman of JQ industries and do the right thing for the workers, SH will continue to work as a congresswoman finding confidence and a voice, and JTS will hold a torch for her, possibly unrequited.

 

The reason why I'm suggesting JHK is the ultimate culprit / killer because this drama has the same setup as Secret Forest / Stranger, and an insider was the ultimate betrayer / killer in that one too. And everyone else is too obvious a suspect (especially JYM.) So when JTS and JHK went to the tea house to interview the owner, she said meaningful strange things to JHK's face (the man quarreling with JSH had a 'pungent smell,' and JHK asks her what does she want). He has killed KPY (whose dead body KSH stumbles upon in the container), and will continue to kill others for protection or revenge.

 

There is no other reason to make sure KSH finds each body, and is at the center of everything, and that she be blackmailed into running for office 'if she wants to see her husband alive.' At least not logically. (and in the preview JTS asks himself why she is everything is circling around KSH) JYM and IDK etc. are all red herrings. Besides IDK's future as an alive person is very slim too (so is the tea house owner's.)

 

I am getting tired of KSH's screams at every turn. But I think the writers are showing that she may be meek on the outside but has a ticking brain and is brave and self-sufficient, while others see her as a problem. Though the writers are also setting up poor lead detective JTS to have his heart broken! 

 

I think the female detective is fine because every female on TV doesn't have to be serious or super smart - women can be faulty and shallow and still be part of investigative teams! 

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7 hours ago, triplem said:

I liked that dream scenario , it was particularly moving ( oh yeah they would definitely match if they did a romance melodrama) .Unless the drama is intending to confuse us, Sang Hun and Seo Hui seemed like a couple in love. The little notes he kept , picture of her in his Songju apartment. They were already apart when he lived in Songju , so he must have still loved her very much to have those things with  him. Which means whatever he is doing - keeping her away from him, not letting her know what is going is to protect her. Someone threatened him (his dad?) ...

 

That dream sequence means something.  Initially I was wondering if her meeting the Father in law in the rain was real and the second part where she meets SHoon the dream?  But seeing she is dressed in the same outfit both times I assume it’s meant to be one long dream?  Or maybe part of it is real and she’s just replaying it in her mind.  Also how it plays out is strange (I don’t know if it’s the fault of editing or intentional)

 

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Scene opens with her walking in the rain (no umbrella), she’s soaked.  Chairman Jeong emerges from the car with an umbrella (just one) and meets her in the street (wall on one side).  Is it outside the Jeong residence?

 

Jeong - Hey.  SeoHui.

SHui - Father.

 

Then there’s an abrupt scene change, he extends his hand and offers her his handkerchief.  This is no longer at the same spot in the first meeting above.  There is a railing beside them and they are BOTH holding umbrellas (is this intentional or an editing fault?).  She takes the handkerchief.

 

Jeong - O dear, why were you walking around all alone in the rain?

SHui - (silent)

Jeong - you must be devastated. I can’t even imagine.  Even I am having such a hard time. You must be utterly distraught.  I saw the news.  

SHui - Father,  how could someone do such a thing?  Just for a reason like that... how could someone do that?

Jeong - you get blinded by a single thing you lose even when you have 100 other things.  It’s human nature.  But I understand.  Even I am having such a hard time believing it when I am fully aware of that.

SHui - I’m sorry Father.  Father I’m sorry.  The day I last saw SHoon,  I was so mean to him.  What if I never see him again?

Jeong - No.  That won’t happen.  I know that SHoon will come back.  I’m sure of it. 

(he reaches over and places his hand on her arm to comfort her and repeats) I’m sure he’ll come back. So don’t worry.  All right?

SHui - Okay.

 

Scene changes again.  Back to original place with the wall.  This time she holds an umbrella and is walking alone.  She sees SHoon with an umbrella calls out “SHoon” and runs to him, leaps into his arms.

SHoon - you’ve gotten quite heavy. (I love this.  The fact that he can banter means they did love each other.  She gets off him and then launches a tirade)

SHui - Hey!!  Where have you been??  Tell me!  I have been so anxious waiting for you!  Why didn’t you answer your phone?  Why did you do this to me?  Where the heck have you been?

(he hugs her as she starts to cry).  You’re such a jerk!!

SHoon - I’m sorry

SHui - I’ve been desperately waiting for you.

SHoon - I missed you.  I really missed you.

SHui - I missed you too.  I missed you too SHoon!  I missed you so much!  Let me see. (She breaks alway from his embrace to look at his hand)  Are you alright? (She is deliriously happy that he still has his hand and kisses it, relieved).  I’m so relieved.  I am so glad you’re back.

(she wakes)

 

Jeong knows SHoon is safe (at this point in time).  He keeps promising her that SHoon will come back.  I don’t think he’s just being delusional here.  He would go through great lengths to ensure the safety of his son- this was his only son, the only person who could inherit his empire?  Who would benefit in JQ from SHoon being out of the picture?  His Friend (YeongMin?), the other guy (Im)?  Also his statement about “being blinded by one thing you lose”, could that also be him referencing himself?  Jeong staged the “accident” of Assemblyman Kim because he too has “one thing he could lose”?  His empire?  His Son?

 

I think the divorce is an attempt on SHoon’s part to distance SHui from the danger he and Assemblyman Kim have embroiled themselves in.  Think about it.  If you wanted both men (Assemblyman Kim and SHoon) under your control, you would threaten the one thing both value - SHui.  So she was the target.  Both men sacrificed to keep her out play?  That’s what it looks like to me as it stands now. 

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Also I went ahead to translate the character briefs for JQ because I feel like we need to know the dynamics of these characters for context.  (Apologies for consecutive post but last post was long so I didn’t want to make it even longer)

 

Jin YeongMin

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He became the head of JQ's new business team in recognition of his gentle and caring character and ability. Sang-hoon and he have been close since they were young, and he cherishes and loves Sang-hoon as if he were a Brother. When Sang-hoon disappears, he worries about Seo-hee, who falls apart, and helps her find him.

 

Im DongGu (the hit man who attacks KPY)

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I met Jeong Young-moon, chairman of JQ Group, on the day my parents decided to lost their lives (?) because they were on a downward spiral, they were saddled with huge debts. In that way, Im Dong-gu becomes Jeong Young-moon’s right-hand man, and is loyal to him.

 

Chairman Jeong YeongMun

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Self-made entrepreneur and founder of JQ Group. Unlike the image of an ordinary conglomerate chairman, he appears to have a generous and strong character. He cares deeply about Sang-hoon, the reader, and is warm to his daughter-in-law, Seo-hee. He suffers from panic over Sang-hoon's disappearance and subsequent incidents.

 

And because some shade has been thrown at him by @noor1  and @bedifferent and @jongski really everyone’s a suspect here and because he had ties with JQ, the hypothesis is plausible (English subs are weird here, especially in the end)

Jeon HoKyu

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A police officer originally from JQ conglomerate. He is so proud that his relationship with others is not great, but he has never missed the top prize in his school days because of his intelligence and is assigned to the Seoul Metropolitan Government's investigation support and senior post as a promotion district after passing the police official exam. He applied for Kwangsoo University because of the National Forensic Service hacking incident, but joined Taesik's team as a ridiculous opportunity.

 

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I enjoyed those first two episodes - definitely has my interest. As expected it was a very plot driven first two episodes to get the story going but looking forward to finding out about the two leads and getting some character development. For the ML feel like we only know his mom has cancer and that's h'e''s moving offices to presumably care for her. I've seen him in the film Shoot my Heart and he was very good.

 

The painting the ML sees when he goes into the missing guys house (ep 1 or 2 I've forgotten) and says there's something wrong with it, did he infer something from it in that scene or do we think it's something they'll come back to? Could't tell if I missed something there but just fell odd for them to point it out.

 

A very small thing that I'm hoping is just a case of getting used to it - the FL's speech I find a bit off and it's distracting, she sounds childlike and I can't tell if it's for her character or just how the actress speaks

 

The body she finds is probably the worker that set himself on fire that they're looking for.

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It seems the father and the son in law are investigating something...maybe related to the new renewable energy business?

 

The old man (dunno his name and position) wanted the lead to become an assemblywoman...meaning he has a motive to kidnap Sanghun or harm him.

 

The man who called the lead and asked for money to meet at the shipping containers might be different from the one who supposedly kidnapped her husband.  One wanted just money, while the other wanted power and control by forcing her to join the assembly. Or it could just be one person/party.

 

I wonder if Sanghun is still alive.  On wiki, he was not included in the cast.

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3 hours ago, anony12345 said:

The painting the ML sees when he goes into the missing guys house (ep 1 or 2 I've forgotten) and says there's something wrong with it, did he infer something from it in that scene or do we think it's something they'll come back to? Could't tell if I missed something there but just fell odd for them to point it out.

 

Yeah I thought so too. Otherwise why point it out.  And he kept looking between that photo on the wall and back to the photo of SeoHui on the shelf?  I am no photographer so I have no idea what was wrong with the photo on the wall?

 

3 hours ago, anony12345 said:

she sounds childlike and I can't tell if it's for her character or just how the actress speaks

 

I think that’s just how she speaks. Personally I like it.

 

3 hours ago, anony12345 said:

The body she finds is probably the worker that set himself on fire that they're looking for

 

Kim PilYeon?  The guy who’s on the run and supposedly was the one confronting SHoon (missing hubby) in the tea House?  Yeah that’s my guess too.  Problem I have with his phone call to SHui is that he doesn’t have SHoon though?  How can he ask her for ransom money (presumably why she withdrew a large amount from her account which triggered the Police) if he can’t give her what she wants?  Why expose himself like that?  He’s on the run from the law and also from others who are obviously looking for SHoon (henchman from JQ).

 

@bedifferent took some pics for comparison

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The only thing I can pick out is that in the second pic, the sun is hidden behind the tree/plant in the pic next to her.  So she knows where he is hiding?  Or am I reading too much into it? :lol:.

 

Or did he stash some documents in the picture/photo frames behind the pics?

 

 

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On 10/13/2019 at 6:25 AM, bedifferent said:

 

2) Jeon Ho-Gyu was transferred from JQ into the investigative unit at Song-ju at the time of the assemblyman's death.  He seems very intelligent and resourceful.  Why the transfer? He didn't give an answer to the detective when asked, obviously not fond of the transfer, so I am holding out judgment on his purpose here. I am leaning toward JQ trying to influence the police investigation by planting their own man here.  What if he was also at the verge of discovering JQ's corrupted intent.

 

Did Hong Gyu transferred from JQ. I must have missed something from the translation. I am watching via NEtflix anyway. if I am not mistaken he was transferred from Data System unit or something. Anyone watching via Netflix can recall what is the translation? 

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13 hours ago, triplem said:

I liked that dream scenario , it was particularly moving ( oh yeah they would definitely match if they did a romance melodrama) .Unless the drama is intending to confuse us, Sang Hun and Seo Hui seemed like a couple in love. The little notes he kept , picture of her in his Songju apartment. They were already apart when he lived in Songju , so he must have still loved her very much to have those things with  him. Which means whatever he is doing - keeping her away from him, not letting her know what is going is to protect her. Someone threatened him (his dad?) ...

 

Thanks for mentioning this. I watched the first two episodes back to back and the details in Sang Hun's apartment and the dream scenario were my favorite parts. I think episode one wanted to confuse us to think that Sang Hun was having an affair with the mysterious woman and is not in love his wife. But based on the details you mentioned his apartment, I also feel that it is quite the opposite. They do seem like a couple in love, but due to unknown circumstances, Sang Hun had to distance himself from Seo Hui and that drove a wedge in their relationship. I agree that he is likely doing this protect her. It really seems he intends to tell her the whole the truth once he could. I got more comfort about it when Tae Sik told Seo Hui that based on their investigation of Sang Hun's apartment, they did not find evidence that he was having an affair. Even though Tae Sik followed it up with "at least not yet", I still like that as a detective, he felt confident enough to tell her that.

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16 minutes ago, liltash85 said:

Did Hong Gyu transferred from JQ. I must have missed something from the translation. I am watching via NEtflix anyway. if I am not mistaken he was transferred from Data System unit or something. Anyone watching via Netflix can recall what is the translation? 

I am watching via Netflix as well . If I recall correctly in eps 1 , they mentioned he supposedly worked with a conglomerate- JQ before deciding to join civil service. Rather peculiar . But the actor so far has not given me any strange vibes . 

@taeunfighting I liked that scene a lot . Without analysing it too much , it’s just a sign how she views their marriage 

 

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The Lies Within: Episodes 1-2 (Review)

by Saya

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OCN’s newest weekend thriller (and Netflix Original) lands with a crisp entrée into a world of subterfuge that lies cloaked beneath a winding litany of the mundane. This has been one of my most anticipated pairings of the year: Lee Min-ki needs no introduction, and I LOVE Lee Yoo-young. She’s been one of my absolute most favorite actresses since Tunnel back in 2017, and she consistently elevates every role she’s had.

There’s always something quietly hurt about her portrayals that makes my heart ache, and I admit it’s hard not to be reminded of her own personal history while seeing her take on this role. This show sees her unite with Lee Yoon-jung, the director of 2017’s Argon, Kim Joo-hyuk’s last drama before he passed away. I don’t know if is anything more to this union, but I hope it proves healing for all.

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http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/10/first-script-reading-for-9-9-billion-won-woman-with-jung-woong-in-jo-yeo-jung-kim-kang-woo/

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5 hours ago, anony12345 said:

The painting the ML sees when he goes into the missing guys house (ep 1 or 2 I've forgotten) and says there's something wrong with it, did he infer something from it in that scene or do we think it's something they'll come back to? Could't tell if I missed something there but just fell odd for them to point it out.

 

2 hours ago, nrllee said:

 

Yeah I thought so too. Otherwise why point it out.  And he kept looking between that photo on the wall and back to the photo of SeoHui on the shelf?  I am no photographer so I have no idea what was wrong with the photo on the wall?

 

The only thing I can pick out is that in the second pic, the sun is hidden behind the tree/plant in the pic next to her.  So she knows where he is hiding?  Or am I reading too much into it? :lol:.

 

In photography, there's a time during the day which is the best for taking photos.  It's usually referred to as the Golden Hour, the ~1hr or so right before sunset, where lighting is optimal.  It's the beautiful soft hue that basks everything and gives awesome backlighting for someone whose style is natural lighting.

 

Taesik noticed it :D  With the large framed photo hung on the wall, one would think that it's Sang Hoon's favorite or his best work... yet it is taken during early afternoon, the sun is still high up in the sky (not only is it harsh, there's a lot of shadows cast if we were try to take pictures).  That didn't make sense to TaeSik, it's an amateur mistake for someone who studied photography like Sang Hoon, why would he be proud and displayed it prominently.

 

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(there’s a green dot in the pic too!)

 

Notice TaeSik did a double take against the framed photos on the shelves, where all of them were taken at dusk during that golden hour.  See how Seon Hee is framed against that backlight as well so the above is an anomaly.  It's not like Sang Hoon doesn't know how to photograph, he took his wife picture beautifully.

 

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@liltash85 Hong Kyu's past with JQ was brought up twice.  When the Capt asked him about his transfer and when Jin Kyung went over Sang Hoon-Seung Cheol's relationship history.

 

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i wanna say thank you to @bedifferent @nrllee for great timeline and sharp analysis that helping me to understand the plot, and also for other expert soompiers for giving the conspiration theories which is increase intense and curiosity while watching the drama. I enjoy first 2 eps, but they're already giving us too much lies and mysteries.. :sweatingbullets: it was confusing sometimes.

 

at first I thought it was the same day when the JSH confront with KSC and the day car accident happens -- but I was wrong :rolleyes:

I think maybe, what if the scene when  SH open her laptop, it just her continuing dream and she thinks it was real so she run into the party office in the morning to give her agreement to parcitipate in the election.

somehow i think the editing is confusing. I never heard about KPY in eps 1 (maybe i was not pay attention), but suddenly his name appear as protester.

 

I also realize that @bedifferent was pointing HG since the beginning :D.. he's quite mysterious and his transfer also had some coincidence with the case. But i found he's too cute hahaa.. the way he order blueberry yogurt in the tea house :D and his OCD, he even confused when Detective JTS ask him to open the dirty car's door. please not him, i like the building bromance between him and JTS.

 

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2 hours ago, cherriesblue said:

wonder if Sanghun is still alive.  On wiki, he was not included in the cast.

LJH came in as a surprise cameo . Even his fans here only found out when OCN put his face in the character chart which is unusual for a cameo / guest role . So we’re not quite sure how much screen time he has or if we will see him again

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10 minutes ago, Nanana85 said:

...was pointing HG since the beginning :D.. he's quite mysterious and his transfer also had some coincidence with the case. But i found he's too cute hahaa.. the way he order blueberry yogurt in the tea house :D and his OCD, he even confused when Detective JTS ask him to open the dirty car's door. please not him, i like the building bromance between him and JTS.

 

LOL, I'm sorry, maybe I am totally off base.  I laughed out loud when he tried to do police work, like asking the teahouse lady... 

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You are right, guy wipes his desk, packs lunch, probably never had a speeding ticket... not one who thrives on danger and excitement that comes with being a killer!

 

@cherriesblue I think Kim Pil Yeon has a gambling problem, thus the call to Seo-Hui for the money tho make you wonder what secrets/infos is he using for leverage over her.

 

@nrllee thank you for the translation of the characters.

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Don’t know @bedifferent, he (HG) does strike me as a bit odd but more idiosyncratic (like the nerd that he’s supposed to be).  But yes to all those comedic moments.  Like asking “how do we open the car door? Do we need to call special unit K-something?” and Det Jo proceeds to open the door and says in his deadpan voice, “it’s called using your hand”.  :lol:. It’s because of these comedic moments that I am hesitant to have him be our mastermind killer.  He may be a pawn (and used for his hacking skills) but what would his motive be?  Why get SeoHui to run for office? 

 

HG reminds me of this comic for some reason :lol:

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@nrllee lol to your cartoon!  Funny!  Tae Sik will mentor some common sense into him.  Hope lady detective gives him some respect soon :)

 

BTW, @noor1 thinks the hanging photo is taken by Seo-hee, which is plausible and makes sense why Sang Hoon loves it.  Also, there’s a green dot, blemish, in the photo.  Most photographers avoid taking photo looking directly into the sun.

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4 minutes ago, bedifferent said:

BTW, @noor1 thinks the hanging photo is taken by Seo-hee, which is plausible and makes sense why Sang Hoon loves it.  Also, there’s a green dot, blemish, in the photo.  Most photographers avoid taking photo looking directly into the sun.

 

Well spotted (pun intended).  I was wondering about the green dot.  I thought it was a smudge on my laptop :lol: initially but no...then I went all spy mode and thought, “wait what if that’s like a spy camera?” :lol:  From one extreme to the other too little sleep I think. 

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