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[Drama 2019] Everyone’s Lies/The Lies Within, 모두의 거짓말

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6 hours ago, AC95 said:

 Yes, Eun-seong/Sang-hun and Yeong-min were actually closer than any of the characters in the story. The desperation of their scheme reminded me a little of the phrase 'folie a deux' - a kind of shared madness of two people against the outside world. I loved that Yeong-min, who had always been the protective elder brother, followed the lead of Eun-seong in the end. The two scenes that really got me:

  • In the car after the escape from the asylum. Yeong-min regrets siding with the Chairman but doesn't see a way out. Eun-seong realises they need to make use of the one person who has a hold on the Chairman - Jeong Sang-hun. It's performed so quietly, no histrionics, but you can just see that mix of sadness and horror and finally resolve on their faces.
  • The euthanasia scene, when Eun-seong gives Yeong-min reassurance by grasping his hand. Both actors did so well.

 

@AC95 Though tragic, I was relieved that the writer kept Sang Hun and YM's brotherhood true in the end. In addition to the two scenes you noted, another scene that made my heart heavy was where Seo Hui placed their childhood photo on YM's columbarium. Even though she felt that their plan was inconceivable and beyond crazy, because it was, she understood that Sang Hun trusted YM immensely to follow through each step of the way and that YM did love Sang Hun in fulfilling his final wishes. I thought the resurfacing of childhood photo in the end was symbolic that their friendship/brotherhood was restored and returned back to as it was at the orphanage. 

 

Particularly with YM, Seo Hui had misunderstood and doubted YM (and rightfully so). Still, YM never tried to explain himself. He kept the "mask" on because he needed to keep to Sang Hun's plan and focus on their goal. To see Seo Hui give validation to YM that he was indeed true to Sang Hun and his character was significant closure for me (as a viewer).

 

6 hours ago, AC95 said:

Wow, really. I wonder if it's been translated and I'm definitely intrigued. It seems like the story has diverged somewhat and I love that The Lies Within is very much its own story too.

 

@bedifferent @AC95 If either of you get your hands on a translated copy, please share your sources with me. I'm intrigued as well.

 

I'm delighted that I'm not alone in finding joy in their final BTS and farewell messages. It totally brought a smile to face to see everyone have such great chemistry behind the camera. And YES! Lee Min Ki and Seo Hyun Woo (actor playing IDG)'s bromance was just :wub:. Haha.

 

19 hours ago, bedifferent said:

@taeunfighting hope you got the chance to watch Signal if you haven't yet. :D

 

Signal is on my list! Literally on Netflix (alongside Bad Guys). I've heard great mentions about it. Thanks for letting me know! :)

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The Lies Within: Episodes 9-16 (Series review)

by Saya

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The Lies Within really brings to bear its original title, Everybody’s Lies, which has been the compass of the show from the start. As much as it’s a mystery drama, it’s also a forensic investigation into the lies and hidden truths of its inhabitants. The best thing about the second half is the co-operative partnership between Tae-shik and Seo-hee, though this doesn’t necessarily mean that they work together at all times. They each pursue their own lines of inquiry and tend to converge at the same discoveries, while actively sharing information and suspicions.

Sang-hoon’s disappearance takes the backburner for much of the second half as instead, the team focus on figuring out Chairman Jung and his JQ lackeys’ true agenda behind their ruthless campaign to spearhead the new business project in Songju. JQ presents a three-headed dog of villainy to our good guys, headed by Chairman Jung at the top, and below him, Chief In Dong-gu on the one hand, and Sang-hoon’s best friend, Jin Young-min, on the other.

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The three of them act in an accord when it comes to furthering the new business, with Chief In and Young-min as bitter rivals, and Chairman Jung willing to play them against each other to suit his own ends. At the midpoint of the show, we had just learned of Choi Soo-hyun’s identity as an investigative reporter who had been killed at the start of the show, thus setting into motion Sang-hoon’s disappearance.

With her death now recognized as murder, it’s clear that she was meant to be silenced from whatever she had been on the brink of exposing. But reinvestigating her case brings Tae-shik’s chief, Yoo Dae-young, down on him like a ton of bricks, and the team is disbanded and facing internal audit.

 

more http://www.dramabeans.com/2019/12/the-lies-within-episodes-9-16-series-review/

 

 

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Thanks @larus happy Drama beans had some kind of coverage albeit belatedly.

 

I quote the final para of the article:

 

"For those reasons, The Lies Within is more than a simple mystery thriller to me. And while it’s an indictment of a broken system skewed to favor a select few, it also makes a strong case for personal agency and individual resistance. No effort is wasted even if it seems fruitless, it tells us, because resistance itself is meaningful. It’s something of a rallying cry for our times, I feel, to people who feel that same impotence where their lives are controlled by powers bigger than them, and they have very little currency with which to take their agency back."

 

Simply, yes. 

 

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I’m watching in passing the current crop of dramas.  Have to say this was the last good drama of 2019 for me.  Along with Camellia.  I think it must have been due to how engaging the story was and how much I connected/understood the characters.  I hope the cast gets more good projects after this.  

 

I will be traveling the next few weeks, hope to see you all in another thread of great drama in 2020, including 365.  There will be aplenty.  Was so fun being here.

 

 

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@taeunfighting We’ll be reassembling the A Team when Secret Forest 2 comes out in Jul2020 for sure.  So if you haven’t watched SF1 (like I didn’t until a month ago), definitely watch it.  It’s on Netflix as Stranger with Cho Seung-woo and Bae Doona.  It’s brilliant. :D

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@nrllee Thanks! I was late to FoS/Stranger. I watched it this past summer. You're right - it's brilliant and very well done. I do have plans to be there for season two. Seems like there's lots to look forward to in 2020. :)

 

@bedifferent Safe travels!

 

 

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Hullo gang... Back to give a summation of my thoughts about the series.

Caught the last two episodes on my way home from an overseas stint. Needless to say the resolution elicited mixed emotions from me. Which, I suspect was the intention all along.

 

On some level I always had an underlying foreboding sense that a happy ending for Sang-hun was unlikely to be on the cards. All that grotesque mutilation was ominous to say the least. But the lynchpin at the end of the day was the "why". Why do something so drastic? That was the real mystery in a show riddled with all kinds of red-herrings... both of the ridiculous and the sublime.

 

Finding out that Sang-hun was a dying man was the key to unlocking the whole thing. It explained why he came back to a life he ran away from in the first instance. It also explained (in part) why he chose to bring attention to egregious abuses of power in such shocking fashion despite his deep affection for his wife. I don't know that I approve... but I'm not asked to approve of his choices here... only to understand. In light of the chairman's recalcitrance, I can say I understand the desperation behind Sang-hun's subsequent choices.

 

My thinking about the chairman remains largely intact. He was something of a megalomaniac who believed that everything was within the palm of his hand as long as he had the cash and the power to pull the strings in the background. In a sense he may be right in his assumptions in so far as he is able to tap into people's greed. At least the types that he has surrounded himself with much of his life. But the truth is not everybody cares that much about money and power. Yes... it's true that a lot of people do. However, even when some people veer off the straight and narrow, it comes from a variety of motives. Dae-young for instance, thought he was providing for his family when he fell into bribery and corruption. Yeong-min, wanted desperately to please the man whose approval he craved. As did IDG. The difference between the two men, of course was that one was constantly tortured by divided loyalties. IDG was completely servile to the chairman.

 

Tae-shik and Seo-hui couldn't be bought off because they was operating on different principles. He had a highly developed conscience due to his affinity with the victims' families. This drove his single-minded pursuit for the truth despite threats and impediments. She was a simple-minded wife and daughter who loved her husband and father greatly. Her uncorrupted simplicity saw her determined to find the truth in order to save her husband.

 

I also believe that the writer wants to say that the chairman's power was in large part propped up by those complicit in his dealings. As long as those around him believed he was untouchable... he was. The reality is that he was only untouchable because there was a support system holding it all together. As soon as the cracks appeared... a few good people swimming against the tide in fierce determination... the superstructure soon became a house of cards. In that way, the show was very Burkian... "the only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." That was clear even in the failed attempt to topple him. His hold on power was more tenuous than his own deluded mind believed.

 

Overall, it was a decent drama after a shaky start. Not one of OCN's best years (compared to the previous two years) admittedly but the fact that they've been able to attract more than a few good actors of late is testament to the increased quality of their dramas in recent years.

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