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[Drama 2019] Everyone’s Lies/The Lies Within, 모두의 거짓말

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Noooooo... HG... the poor kid... So soon as well. Why? :tears: Wasn't a fan at first but he came to love the team and be a significant contributor.

 

After that last episode (really good by the way) I'm wondering two things:

1) Are we looking at a cancer cluster in the area? @bedifferent What are your thoughts? There's something in the land that's causing people to get sick. Like as someone suggested last week... something along the lines of toxic or nuclear waste. Or did someone find uranium there? 

Or 

2) Highly illegal experiments or activities that involve children. Presumably Yeon U's dad is doing some seriously hinky stuff with animals in the lab when S-Hui rang in. Interesting that YU who died of cancer was adopted.  So are they using orphans? That would tie in with the orphanage.

The shamanistic rituals fit into this because the locals believe that there's evil around them that needs warding off. They know that something is going on but it's inexplicable so far.

 

So what is JQ's primary business earner? Is it really energy? It seems like they own medical facilities too. Hospitals etc.

 

There is something really odd about the chairman. His movements seem a bit twitchy and he comes across as being mentally unstable at times. There's also a disturbing edge to his paternalism. 

 

All the nasty stuff aside I really love seeing this side of LJH. (Yes, yes I'm a broken record) He looked so charming with the boy and his pup. I almost wish he would do more rom coms. The chat with SHui about having kids was also adorable... good to see another side to her as well... but more importantly it gave us insight into their marriage. I always wondered why they didn't have kids after being married for so long. She wasn't a career oriented wife either. Neither of them were particularly ambitious. 

I am glad though that the more I see of SHun the more we see that he is/was a decent man doing his best to make things right. I'm glad for SHui that retracing his footsteps has given us that particular perspective especially when there's so much evil around them

 

It's clear that Choi SY opened Pandora's Box and the people behind it are scrambling to apply damage control. We have finally some insight into why an entertainment reporter was investigating JQ. She wasn't one to begin with. She uncovered the tip of an iceberg. It is a sad indictment of the corruption that the people who did any real investigation into JQ are all ordinary people... low level cops, reporters, and politicians.

 

What did JQ do for all its minions that when it says "jump", they're happy to say "how high?" 

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@40somethingahjumma JQ history as a metal, steel, constructions, chemical company raises all the red flags here.  Given the company was founded in 1980s, I think we are looking at a period where corruption in the government was noticeably high and regulatory agencies were much laxer back then.  It might be a combination of JQ rubbing elbows with government officials during the booming years when they expanded rapidly and the lack of health awareness about these wastes. Yes, metal/chemical wastes have drastic effects on the human body DNA.  Heavy metal toxicities are real, can disrupt the organ functions, cause cellular damages or even be genototoxic. Environmental pollution is quite high in metal based industry.  Human exposure can be from soil erosions where the metals are leaching into the ground water and carry into the food/water source of the town people.

 

JQ's main goal is seize the contaminated land to prevent anyone from finding out its past wrongdoings.  The other option is to admit to its wrongdoings, pay restitution , faces financial ruins, etc...  For a man like Jeong with no real family left, it's more about his and the company's legacy than money.

 

 

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I think the delivery man who send the eye to Bareun News is Go Hyeon Wu father. I am almost sure of it based on his chin bone and lips structure. 

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Just saying @bedifferent, if ever I get some obscure medical condition that my regular doctors are befuddled about, imma gonna send you all my medical files for you to hunt down differentials :lol:.  
 

Yes and the problem with soil contamination of chemical wastes is that you can’t get rid of it any time soon. You can’t exactly build over it either.  I would hazard a guess to say that their desire to “build an energy plant” over the site is also hogwash.  It’s already not one conducive to renewables like solar or wind so chances are even after the purchase they would leave it untouched with the excuse that it was a “mistake” or they “ran out of money” or some other cover. 

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Ah Ho-gyu, Ho-gyu, you will always be a part of this team. When Jin-gyeong pulled your ears and you laughed about getting back together as a team... When you had the 1337 hax0rz battle with JQ's cyber-minion... When you waved from the sidewalk saying "I'll wait".... 

 

Ep 10 was so meaningful and yet so hard to watch at the same time. Loved Tae-sik's 'great escape' from surveillance at his apartment. Loved that Seo-hui is coming into her own as the people's representative, able to tap on the trust that the locals have and get them to share with her. Loved that Seo-hui opened up to Tae-sik while they were driving, and that he could so clearly understand Sang-hun's frame of mind. He and Seo-hui will be resilient and resourceful together.

 

More speculation on the conspiracy - the idea of this being a waste leakage issue, with known victims, is solidifying.

Reproducing the last 2 bullets of @bebebisous33's list post Ep 9:

- 2001: Jeonggeon Chemicals

- 2003: a new factory in North Gyeongsang Province

 

So JQ has a history of being in the chemicals and refining business, while also having a history in Songju (previously thought they were new to the area). Now that we are aware that the cancer / mystery illness cases are in Songju itself, and the the Renewable Energy Bill specifically names Songju, concur with fellow watchers that the mapped circles are probably past waste burial sites, not prospective ones.

 

We see from the plaque behind the Chairman when talking to Yeong-min that JQ stands for "Justified Qualification". Well not for long, huh. I wondered what JQ's new business "E&F" stands for. Did anyone see the expanded title or other clues? E could stand for a host of things - energy, electricity, environment, enrichment - but F is more interesting. 'Fuel'?

 

I'm still partial to it being tied up in energy-derived waste and not just generic chemicals, because that would make it easier to push through under the Bill and be neater narratively (sorry for bias, though I would love any other outcome equally given the quality of the writing in this show). I also feel that they want to tie this into current affairs because climate change and energy provenance are topical. One possibility is that JQ was previously involved in disposal and intermediate storage of fuel rods from Korea's existing nuclear plants. The map indicates some terrain where the red circles are, which could work if it's a seismically stable area. Having a cement factory nearby could also have helped in building containment. So the waste would not have initially been in the farmland, but as discussed by @bedifferent @nrllee and others, been leached down into the water table.

 

Imagine you are JQ and an opportunity arises to retrieve fuel rods to generate nuclear energy. It's called fuel recycling and can actually turn waste back into energy (https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/fuel-recycling/processing-of-used-nuclear-fuel.aspx) .

 

You're killing multiple birds with one stone:

  • Clawing back all the nasty stuff you put into the ground in Songju
  • Getting into a new business of fuel generation (which could at a stretch be called 'renewable', because you're recycling, right?), which will be lucrative in the long-term

The only thing is, you must suppress all evidence of there ever having been leaks. 

 

Now that we have seen the vet (thanks for the caps @triplem and observation on the IV @bedifferent, I think it is plausible that...

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...the veterinarian dad and Sang-hun are in on it together. I wondered whether it had initially been revenge (i.e. Sang-hun an unwilling victim). It's possible that vet-dad's account to Seo-hui and Tae-sik is untruthful. But if the very empathetic relationship between Sang-hun, the little boy and his dad was real, I don't think dad's first reaction would have been to kidnap and torture Sang-hun. My feeling is that all the amputations were carried out by him, although maybe the first one was staged to be rough as it had to be carefully choreographed for the film sent to Seo-hui.

On Sang-hun's pain tolerance - I think Sang-hun's attitude toward pain changed in the course of meeting those ill children, and tipped over the edge when the reporter was murdered. In Ep 1 we saw him punching the glass, oblivious to his own pain, and showing virtually no reaction when the book his father-in-law threw at him drew blood. Respectfully, I would say he is not the same kid that cried over losing a fingernail.

 

Man I adore this show.

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O gosh! I am left feeling so angry at ep.10!! :rage: So disappointed!!! Starting with the poor editing and building up to that last scene of the episode.... Argghhh!!! ~ almost made me want to ditch the show. I actually unconsciously off the phone I was watching the episode on before it actually ends and threw my phone to the side (was on the bed).

 

My rant in spoiler, proceed at own risk of ruining your mood. The episode managed to ruin my mood for today.

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Firstly, the death of JHG ~ seriously, was that really necessary? I already guessed he won't live since he saw "the face" but can't we have the team intact at the end of everything? A maknae too, who just realized his attachment to his team. But I guess the team can never be intact since the Team Leader is not with them anymore. And I guess it is showing on OCN so I should expect deaths from protagonist side... but still, arrrrgghhhhh!!!

 

Next, is the editing. I really think it is very poorly done. I don't know if it was done purposely to throw us the viewers off the timeline, or just really poor editing. Why need to throw us off the timeline like that though? So I am inclined to think that it is poor editing.

1) When JTS and KSH were visiting the villagers. This was interlaced with Jin Gyeong and Ho Gyu meeting on the street. She went to his apartment in the evening, but then the scene changed to JTS and KSH at the village during day time. Ho Gyu even went to the station the next day and get advice how to restore the hacked laptop, and JTS-KSH still at village, day time. So two days have passed for in Seoul while in Songju, it was still happening in a day?

2) When KSH dropped off JTS at the bus stop. He sat there mulling before getting a call from Ho Gyu. But with KSH, we're shown that she reached home, called the boy's father, and went to office (should I say leaving the office at night?) So a work-day has passed in her life and JTS still sitting at the bus stop?

 

What's going on with the editing?!?!

And what's with the occupation of the boy's father as a vet? How will that come into play later on? (Edit: just read previous page, so he could be the person with medical background in removing the eye of Sang Hun, if so, he is one twisted fake person, he probably didn't love his adopted son at all. Sang Hun is the person who showed much care and concern for the son!)

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I've enjoyed these last two episodes more than the previous couple.

 

It felt odd to have such minimal dialogue between the two main leads for the first half of the show so it's good to see them working together more, also happy we got more on the ML's background. 

 

Ho-gyu's killer you feel like has to be their captain, even the hands looked a bit chubby - but it just feels too obvious. Not sure who else it could have been though (especially with that reaction from Ho-gyu when he saw him) and if they planted the ML's gun there it's someone with access to the police as he would have handed it in when suspended? I was surprised when they mentioned his gun was found at the scene in the preview as surely he would have had to have handed it in when suspended and you can't carry in SK?

 

I also don't think they could have made the dad of the kid who died look more sinister when the FL called him

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I am so disappointed with what happened.  :cry: He is a smart character why did he have to die? I really wwnt the team to solve the case. It rmeinded me of eun Soo dying in Stranger.  The team would benefit from his skills.  

 

It is also obvious that Taesik is not the killer. Because he surrendered his gun when he was demoted and suspended.  Which means it is someone from thr police. Based on the hand since i am watching with others, they said it looked like their Captain. Aaargh

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It's ironic looking back at the first episode how reluctantly the team came together. Tae-shik didn't even want to take the case then. He was cajoled into it by YDY. HG was kind of blackmailed into being part of the team. The first episode revisited now seems to be tinged with so much foreboding. Even with the flimsy attempts at humour at the start seem poignant in light of what we witnessed in Episode 10. HG who didn't even like his colleagues or want to part of the investigative team falls victim to an ugly conspiracy because he missed the team and wanted to relive some of the excitement of being part of something bigger than himself. TS was ready to leave and live the quiet life... was dragged into handling this piece of dynamite because of his usual methodical approach to investigation. Perhaps YDY thought TS would go through the motions and sign off on it because he was past caring about real detective work but it seems he underestimated the nature of the complexity of the situation and TS' dedication to policing in large part due to his background. A man has gone missing and his family is looking for him. It's like a page out of his biography.

 

I thought it might be instructive to take another look at Episode 1 because there was so much in the earlier episodes that I probably missed. Plus I'm lying in bed possibly nursing a bug.  :D

 

My thinking at this point is that SH is still alive. I'd say there's a high possibility he's cooperating with his captor(s) now. It may not have started that way when his left hand was axed but whether it's Stockholm Syndrome or a means of survival to prove his sincerity, I suspect at least the latest act of mutilation, the enucleation, was done with his consent. 

Whether that's the case it's at least something that needs to be considered anyway. SHun may not have started things but he may have decided to throw his lot in with whomever is targeting JQ in what is likely to be a revenge plot. 

There is some possibility that IDG could be part of the counter-conspiracy but he does seem unfailingly loyal to the chairman in protecting the big secret and doesn't seem to have too many qualms getting his hands dirty even if he's mysophobic and he doesn't seem to know where SHun is.  So it's unlikely.  I don't think YM is involved either because he seems to have well and truly hitched his wagon to the JQ train. 

 

YM is undoubtedly one of the most complex figures in this sorry state of affairs if not the most. He's very comfortable being the chairman's right hand man. I don't think he particularly wants to be CEO as such as long as he is seen to be of use to the chairman who is more of a father-figure to him than SHun did. We've certainly looked at him from various angles but it's true that he prioritizes protecting the chairman's interests first and foremost largely because he changed the trajectory of his life. Compared to where he started as a nobody, he is now a trusted (well... in so far as the chairman trusts people) aide to a king. It isn't just about material benefits. His entire identity revolves around the chairman and the JQ "empire". I don't he can bear the thought of severing himself off the teat. I don't even think he believes he has betrayed anyone... his ex or SHun because his loyalty is first and foremost to the chairman. I think he has and always will see himself as the chairman's son. Therefore even if he doesn't enjoy the emotional turmoil that exists within him because of these conflicts of interests, he knows clearly where his priorities lie. He may angst and weep over the loss of a woman he may have loved or the loss of a friend, but the chairman always comes first. His corruption comes from his desire to please an insidious role model. His is the road to hell.

 

I don't doubt that there's some kind of link between what's going on now and TS' sister. I still believe even with the cancer cluster and long-term waste poisoning element, there's some really disturbing activities going on with children. I just don't think it's that simple.

 

 

 

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41 minutes ago, anony12345 said:

I was surprised when they mentioned his gun was found at the scene in the preview as surely he would have had to have handed it in when suspended and you can't carry in SK?


yeah I thought that was a given. You hand in your badge and gun.  Kinda obvious who planted it there.  But if higher ups are involved, then chances are they will ignore discrepancies and bury it in paperwork.  What’s more, I can’t see how they can pin it on TaeSik?  What’s his motive to gun HG down?  Vengeance that HG signed the document and ratted him out? <_<

 

 @ktcjdrama Editing was a bit off this ep.  Maybe they are having problems time wise to fit the scenes in (are they live shooting?).  I must admit I wasn’t paying that much attention to day/night scenes.  I just watched looking for plot developments. :lol:

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8 minutes ago, nrllee said:

@ktcjdrama Editing was a bit off this ep.  Maybe they are having problems time wise to fit the scenes in (are they live shooting?).  I must admit I wasn’t paying that much attention to day/night scenes.  I just watched looking for plot developments. :lol:

:sweatingbullets: I can't help but pay attention to the time now since we're putting together a timeline to understand the lies within :D

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28 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

:sweatingbullets: I can't help but pay attention to the time now since we're putting together a timeline to understand the lies within :D

I didn't notice the timeline either until I read your comment.

I assume the days are not  in sequence. It could be HG and JG met on different days before HG finds the info.

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@ktcjdrama I think what we saw on screen is events over 2 days and a recollection of the past event.

 

1) When JTS and KSH were visiting the villagers. This was interlaced with Jin Gyeong and Ho Gyu meeting on the street. She went to his apartment in the evening, but then the scene changed to JTS and KSH at the village during day time. Ho Gyu even went to the station the next day and get advice how to restore the hacked laptop, and JTS-KSH still at village, day time. So two days have passed for in Seoul while in Songju, it was still happening in a day?

 

- I think the visit to the village took at least 2 days cuz Seo Hui is dressed differently.  She wore a dark top with tan coat one day and a salmon colored sweatshirt the next day. JG met HG during her day shift, went to drop off chicken and beer afterwork.  HG got tips from his supervisor on how to reverse hack the computer the next morning then went home to work on it.  When he called TS, it was at night on the second day after TS/SH visited the vet.  

 

TS also changed from black hoodie to black bomber jacket.

 

2) When KSH dropped off JTS at the bus stop. He sat there mulling before getting a call from Ho Gyu. But with KSH, we're shown that she reached home, called the boy's father, and went to office (should I say leaving the office at night?) So a work-day has passed in her life and JTS still sitting at the bus stop?

 

-in her chance meeting with the congressman, her forehead is not bandaged and she has no facial scratches.  Wounds don’t heal completely overnight.We also see her in the preview with bandages still so I think the mtg was in the past, not the next day.  

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@bedifferent thanks for pointing out the different outfit of KSH. So they were visiting the villagers on two separate days... which doesn’t make sense to me since the house of the vet was pointed out to them the day before (my mind asking how did TS ditch the tailing Internal Affairs team for the second day out?) but I’ll go with it for now. So it seems they did want to throw us off the timeline a bit. But the flashback of her at the office lobby was so off too... 

 

Maybe because I was too emotional over HG’s death so I failed to go back and check the outfit. Haha, I failed at the investigative work because I let emotions get the better of me :lol:

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I watched ep10 earlier on felt kind of miserable because HongYu died and the team split up and YDY gone rogue.:tears: where is this going now?

 

Some of you have already brought up interesting points. I wasn't able to re watch as I normally did but some thing crossed my mind. 

 

Why did SangHun and ChoSuYeon meet at the train station? What is the significance of that station? I believe it is an old station and no longer operational. Could the train station have been used to transport toxic waste from JO's plants to Sonju in the past?

 

From what I understand, YeonU is an adopted child of the vet. I didn't see the mother when SeoHui and TaeSik visited them and also when he died at the hospital? He died on Feb 5 2019 that's less than 2 weeks before ChoSuYeon alleged suicide.

 

I'm wondering now if the other names on the list are also adoptees and that maybe JQ is running someone kind of experiment.

 

I'm not too verse with the land matters. There seems to be some issue with passing of the bill and the chairman tells Hong to concede even if they will lose billions. Meaning JQ will purchase the land without the Renewable Energy Business. So the chairman is trying very hard to protect the land?

 

 

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@ktcjdrama hahaha, no, you are actually really good with details so this tells me you are super affected by our maknae Ho Gyu's death.  Poor boy.  He's going to take us into Act 2 where TaeSik now is our fugitive on the run.  Here is where Seo Hui will have to step up for the both of them if she really wants to help her husband.  May she find ways to act instead of react and surprise us all.

 

I'll add this license plate into the timeline... the car that followed Assemblyman Kim 3/3 night.

 

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@40somethingahjumma I hope you feel better.... Ohhhh I'm not sure I can go back watching HG again in episode 1 :cold_sweat:  I remember Yoo asking HG why he left a nice paying position with a high profile company.  We eventually find out HG's decision to quit was his insecurity about whether he is cut for the job or can stay afloat in the rat race.  Little does he know - it's the nerds that rule this world of ours (Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos..) He'll be missed.

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8 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@taeunfighting @bedifferent Strangely, I would prefer YM remaining loyal to the chairman till the end than switching the side in the last moment because he disagrees with KSH's murder. So far, he even betrayed and abandoned his lover CSH and this person loved him. To feel remorse in the last moment and bring down the chairman doesn't suit my taste because so far, JYM is well aware of the number of casualties: the victims of the environmental pollution, the death of CSH and KCH, now the death of a police officer... The list of victims is so long and each time, JYM turned a blind eye to it for the sake of his survival.

 

@bebebisous33 The reason why I personally wouldn't mind it if YM betrays the chairman is because throughout the story, it’s hinted that he internally struggled with his past choices between friends and the chairman. So, eventually switching sides wouldn’t seem like a decision in the last moment for me. After all, isn’t realizing that you’ve been on the wrong path better late than never? I initially thought the washing of his hands was likely guilt from cutting Sang Hun and/or the murders (CSH, KSC/KPY), but as of now, we know that the murders were executed by IDG and the cutting is highly likely by the vet. So, perhaps the suggestion of any intangible guilt means that he may have the least bit of conscience in him left to actually do the right thing and save Seo Hui. Not only is Seo Hui his friend, but she’s also Sang Hun’s wife. Seo Hui has meaning to him from both those perspectives.

 

I also see it also as an opportunity for YM to honor CSH’s final words to leave JQ and the chairman. It seemed CSH truly cared for his well-being. If YM couldn’t see it then when CSH said those words to him, hopefully, he can see it now in finally realizing how ruthless the chairman is. Besides, it wasn’t until recently in episode 9 where YM learned from Hong that IDG killed KSC and KPY. Hong also told him that he suspects IDG may have Sang Hun too because he’s been using his safety to manipulate Seo Hui to pass the bill. It didn't seem that YM knew this before. I think this is why he cleverly asked IDG if the reason why he didn’t kill Seo Heo off is because “we” needed her to pass the bill. He said it to test IDG to see if Hong’s suspicions could be true. Later, in a meeting with the chairman, he thought the chairman would agree that IDG hurting Seo Hui went too far, but he was somewhat shook when the chairman dismissed it because she didn’t actually die. The chairman further says he cares for Seo Heo like a child and he still needs Seo Hui for the elections. The combination of the two situations didn’t make sense to YM. How can you say you care for someone like a child, but put her life in danger for your own benefit. Hong and Bareun’s CEO had slipped to YM that he was appointed CEO to take JQ’s fall. YM now knows for sure that he’s next to be sacrificed. The chairman isn’t genuinely treating Seo Hui like his own child, why would he be a genuine to YM. If I were YM, I wouldn’t be foolishly be loyal to the chairman until the very end knowing all of this.

 

When I first said this in my previous post, I had noted that this hope may be crazy and slim to none. I just wouldn’t mind it if YM’s character happen to play out this way in the end.

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The chairman grooms his adopted children.  Brainwashing them from a young age.  Like his bonsai.  He’s predatory.  He picks his prey and knows where and when to push their buttons.  And he manipulates them like chess pieces to do his bidding, howbeit in a very hands off passive aggressive way.  SHoon seemingly “escaped” his clutches when he went to Germany with SHui.  Do we know why he came back yet?  My memory fails me.

 

 

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11 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@taeunfighting @bedifferent Strangely, I would prefer YM remaining loyal to the chairman till the end than switching the side in the last moment because he disagrees with KSH's murder. So far, he even betrayed and abandoned his lover CSH and this person loved him. To feel remorse in the last moment and bring down the chairman doesn't suit my taste because so far, JYM is well aware of the number of casualties: the victims of the environmental pollution, the death of CSH and KCH, now the death of a police officer... The list of victims is so long and each time, JYM turned a blind eye to it for the sake of his survival.

 

On the other side, I would rather like IDG to abandon the chairman. Why? IDG resents his father because he considered the accident as his father's fault. Due to his mistake, he lost his position and his self-respect. IDG jumped to the conclusion that money is everything. Besides, the chairman showed a certain tolerance and magnanimity as he accepted the son of the driver who was the reason for his son's loss. In his eyes, the chairman appears more open-minded. But what if everything he thought was a lie? The chairman covered up something. It would be interesting to discover that in reality, his father was not to blame for the accident... and the so called generosity was just fake. So far, I do think that IDG views the chairman as a surrogate father. 

 

While I think it's a fascinating line of thought, ;) Iike others on the thread I tend to think YM a more likely candidate for reversing his trajectory mainly because SHun and SHui are his friends. SHui in particular could be the key. I still think that YM is quite likely in love with her on some level or at least he might have been a rival for her affections in the past and when push comes to shove, he might not be able to bring himself to do her harm. It begs the question as to how much he cared for CYS. I know he appeals to IDG's pragmatism and political expediency but that's probably his way of masking his true feelings in front of a man he doesn't trust and like. YM knows too that IDG is his true and only rival at JQ. If he's acting extra cautiously it's because he know that one misstep could cause him his place next to the chairman. He won't be wrong in thinking that things could really run amok at JQ without him.

 

Of course it would be more interesting if IDG did... and I still suspect him for running his own agenda... because he seems so servile in front of the chairman. And with Slavishlyno conscience to bother him. However, any kind of guilt could be manifested in his mysophobia. On the other hand the servility could just be an act... at this stage I can't tell. As far as the chairman is concerned, IDG is his lap dog on a leash. 

 

It's true too that the chairman doesn't necessarily trust either men much. He may groom these orphans as @nrllee has observed to be his tools and weapons so they do his bidding willingly but at the end of the day they're not blood. So any kind of betrayal from some quarter... most likely from the chairman himself... is not unrealistic at all.

 

@bedifferent Yeah, it's depressing about HG but not beyond the pale for an OCN drama. Still shocked and reeling from how quickly nerd boy got the flick. :( I suppose they want to demonstrate how deep the evil has penetrated and that's why the revenge plotters have to go to such extremes as to mutilate SHun to send a message. I'm really hoping it's not YDY. HG was beaten up really badly so IDG might have been present also. That's more like his style.

 

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Uhffff...blow in..blow out...okay breathe calmly :triumph:

I was so angry with whoever the masters mind...uhfff gosh the plot and the progress of investigation is so slow, and now we saw one of the team been shooting...hope nothing happened with this slow witted newbie..

Actually wanna waiting patiently till this drama ended enjoy the plots twist and turns but after episode 9 when the detective still have no ideas what the case they in it, i lost my patience :unamused:

And it's happening the culprit pulling JTS trigger, might speed up his rage to put all his efforts to catch the coward guys. up now more than 4 people's dies injustice it's  not including the kids who's got impact from the land, does the land they reclaimed containing a danger chemical ?or the orphanage kids is a kind of victims of science research?

Does the mutilation and the new business teams have corelation?

Or there're 2 group people with different objective?

I got those all inquiries while finished last night episode.

So next week is the real start of investigation.

Thrilling.

 

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