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[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

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  1. 1. Favourite kiss scene? (pick one)

    • The first kiss scene after the first crossing into his world
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    • The 1st goodbye kiss in ROK
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    • The 2nd Goodbye kiss in ROK
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    • The beheading kiss scene/inconsiderate scene
    • Post saving kiss scene
    • Episode 10 kiss by future LG
    • Reunion kiss scene
    • CCTV kiss scene
  2. 2. What type of setting and world do you want TKEM S2 to take place in?

    • post-World war 3 in the year 2050s in ROK where Korea is turned into dystopia (LGXJTE and Lee JunXJTR team up to save ROK)
    • Should take place in the far future where LGXJTE fight evil forces from the year 2784 with assistance from Lee JunXJTR
    • Should remain and fight injustice in the currently timeline with additional arc for JTR-LJH
    • Do you want it to take place instead in the far-past going way back to the beginning of Korea like 10.000BC back
    • Do you want them to go further back in time like 30.000-50.000 BC
  3. 3. Do you want shower scenes in the S2 & PG13 or R-Rated?

    • Yes plenty of shower scenes please
    • No to shower scenes
    • Yes I will take 1-2 Shower scenes
    • Should S2 remain PG13
    • Should S2 become R-rated in the sequel

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  • Poll closed on 06/26/2020 at 04:38 AM

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5 hours ago, Alice Wonderland said:

The filler

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And the one they spent some extra time to tell about the chief backstory. It left me speechless. Seriously... we're running out of time here and yet they keep giving us this. Huhuhuhu

 

Is the actor considered good in Korea? That he is not just a bit player? You guys know what I am getting at? Cos that's the only reason I could think of to spend that much time on his story in a tightly-packed series. Does not add value to TKEM or did I miss something? I agree that Show could have had better use for Chief's loneliness & solitude screen times 

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I still can’t believe that since episode 1, I’ve been low key thirsting over the YO YO KID.

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6 hours ago, SweetButters said:

@AgentQuake @SCSfanz Is it wrong that ive replayed that scene like 15 times now lol. I also was getting so hot over seeing that scene of JY shooting and ducking and sliding all over the place in the shootout like MEOWWWWWWWWWWWWWW:love:

 

@SweetButters right? I need more. i've got so many wish lists from this episode that i just never got to see. it feels like they ran out of time from ep14 onwards and what we are seeing now is like a summary of what could have happened. If they can close it off with a one liner dialogue they close it off ;) 

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5 minutes ago, AgentQuake said:

I still can’t believe that since episode 1, I’ve been low key thirsting over the YO YO KID.

 

Are you referring to the kid sitting in the crowd with the marine uniform

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3 minutes ago, Joanna Alfson said:

 

Are you referring to the kid sitting in the crowd with the marine uniform


Yes maaaam

When they did the closeup on him in Ep 4, I thought maybe he would be another gentleman I could do a beheading with.  I also thought it was a little strange how they focused on him, but I figured cus he was hot AF.

 

and then he turned out to be the yo-yo boy 

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Does anyone know what JY meant by this? What game were they playing? :joy:

 

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21 minutes ago, SCSfanz said:

 

@SweetButters right? I need more. i've got so many wish lists from this episode that i just never got to see. it feels like they ran out of time from ep14 onwards and what we are seeing now is like a summary of what could have happened. If they can close it off with a one liner dialogue they close it off ;) 

@SCSfanz Thats exactly how I felt too!!!! Like obviously JTE and LG would get married and have a baby, but instead of showing us exactly that they just gave us Lady Noh saying those two lines " Ive been wondering when the Royal Ancestral Shrine will be completed. Will it be completed next year?". With ES and Nari, they're assumed to be married with ES calling her "wife" or whatever on the phone. Then instead of showing us JY and ES reunited, we just got LG saying "Did you get your license yet?" and ES saying "Yes, Class -1 special", meaning since ES completed his 64th dream of getting a license, thus ES completing his 65th dream of reunited with JY wasn't too far away. Lastly, instead of showing us the romance between JY and MSA, we got JTE saying how their romance would be a "triller thats a big hit" lol. LIKE GEEZ they could have shown all those scenes in a montage for all I care with LG and JTE voicing over to summarize at the same time !!!!:bawling:

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1 hour ago, SweetButters said:

@ATW If anything, just know that yo-yo kid is ultimately on LG's side. I wouldn't be surprised if Luna "coincidentally" dies or whatever. The coincidences caused throughout this whole show was done by yo-yo kid to ensure LG would get whatever he and by extension his friends wished for.

 

It wasn't a coincidence that the door King Haejong traveled to was to ROK nor was King Haejong's encounter with Lady Noh (who later introduced LG to JY the unbreakable sword and lifetime protector/friend/companion) lol. Yo-yo kid did all of this to ensure LG would have a good happy life and that LG would meet the one he was fated to love and be with lol.

 

Yo-yo kid just had to make sure LG was a just and good king therefore he introduced the conflict with LR as one big test like King Arthur and Excalibur the Sword. Its like when yo-yo kid asked LR "what if a villain who isnt not a just person pulls the sword", to which LR says "justice does not make the sword. The sword decides what justice is" hahahah ......LR failed yo-yo kid's test after saying that. Furthermore, it wasn't just a coincidence that when the flute broke in half, that the only portal that was available to LG and LR was ROK and not to some other world like the one Tae-Ra Byte or Hyo Jin was from lol (its because yo-yo kid was trying to allow LG to find the one who was meant to be his queen, lover, and mother to a future righteous king).

 

Thats why I'm convinced Yo-Yo kid had been controlling everything this whole entire time, he's the Judge and Jury on who is to be future King and owner of the flute since in all the worlds there is only one flute lol! I can understand it from yo-yo kid's perspective that he didn't want to make a wrong decision hence thats why he tested both LR and LG even though he believed LG to be a good and just King. Yo-yo kid just wanted to make sure, I mean I would too if I was trying to give someone with the power to control multiple worlds and time lol. "With great power, comes great responsibility" lol

 

 

@Alice Wonderland Haha yea probably a production mistake lol. Hahah yo-yo kid goes back to being the kid after bully guy. Plus if you think about it, bully guy in ROK beating up KSJ is what lead to JTE meeting KSJ. Just read above what said about yoyo kid hahaha. And yo-yo kid in KOC was checking up on LG lol. 

Wow thanksss for your (always) good explanation :D 

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Good Morning Chingus' :heart:

Glad I dont hve to use the guns and cannon on KES ! :joy:

Me jumping with joy, yelling, crying out loud when both LG & JTE finally met & kiss :kiss_wink:

But sad to bcktrack 35 pgs . LOL :bawling:

You guys ROCK the thread lst night !!!!! :scream:

Be right bck, wait for me. 

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It's finally over! While I am so glad we got our happy ending and so much time in Ep 16 devoted to showing happy times with LG JTE, I felt strangely empty now that everything is over. I no longer have anything to spend my waking time obsessing over, I no longer can countdown to Friday in excitement every week.

 

Some thoughts:

  • I think we all have our own idea of what a happy ending would be. I envisioned them finding the beautiful solution to spend the rest of their lives together, not just only on the weekends. On one hand, I understand why it had to be this way. Both doppelgangers are alive in each other's world, they cannot simply move over to the other world because the DNA and fingerprints are exactly the same. Lady Noh's background wasn't elaborated on, but her doppelganger in KOC is likely not alive for her to be able to live peacefully for so many years. On the other hand, I wish LG found a more beautiful solution that allowed them live together forever.
     
  • I am glad the last episode took so much time to give us a proper ending for everyone. LG saving SJ from his car accident was a nice touch, and without LR destroying his father's business he grew up rich as well. I love that PM's mother adopted Luna who became a police officer while PM ended up in jail. Luna with a happy home appears to grow up healthy without cancer, in the original timeline she would have died in the streets in 2020. And I love that KHM was always fated to be a police officer whether in ROK or KOC. KHM could only love JTE in secret in ROK, but in KOC he now has Luna (now named Koo Seo Kyung). I thought it was funny he used a parking ticket as an excuse to meet her on her birthday since she was off-work. I am relieved LJH's mom made good decisions and sent LR doppelganger to a care home, and that LJH grew up so well. That uniform looked damn good on him.
     
  • I love that so much time was spent showing us how LG and JTE met again, and spent the rest of their time together. Too many dramas do a very quick wrap up in the last 10 minutes to show a very brief happy ending. It was absolutely hilarious when JTE put on the mask to avoid showing her face to Lady Noh. I completely lost it when LG went the extra mile to switch the mask on very casually in front of Lady Noh. I vote this as the best PPL scene of the whole series. The scene at the security room was unexpected, and in my imagination after that JTE got to spend the night in the King's chamber to reminisce the old times and relive the beheading. Hee.
     
  • I feel like the parts in the entire drama series that we were unsatisfied with and felt could have been developed more, or felt like it deviated from the original script, may have been changed due to filming difficulties during Covid-19. The actors were scheduled to film for 8 months, I am sure a grander production was planned. I think scenes involving large crowds have been scrapped due to social distancing, and changes to the script must have been made because Covid made it impossible for them to access certain filming locations. I am glad the production team still did their best to bring us such a well done drama. I have never watched such an intriguing and well written drama that kept me waiting every week in excitement to find out what happens next, and spending all that waiting time reading this forum to understand what's going on and to read theories.
     
  • My very last little wish, is for post production editing of the whole series especially for the first half. Hopes are slim, but I really hope they re-edit everything for Netflix or DVD release. I don't think there was a problem with the filmed scenes, but good editing would make the drama a lot better.
     
  • I think some gags in Korean are lost in translation. In particular, I wish I could understand what Lady Noh and LG were saying about him keeping the talisman in his coat pocket. She held her fingers up to show 2, I wonder what that meant.
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35 minutes ago, Joanna Alfson said:
41 minutes ago, AgentQuake said:

I still can’t believe that since episode 1, I’ve been low key thirsting over the YO YO KID.

 

Are you referring to the kid sitting in the crowd with the marine uniform

 

I thought Yoyo Kid is this deity... so why a bully to SJ? 

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17 minutes ago, SweetButters said:

Does anyone know what JY meant by this? What game were they playing? :joy:

 

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@SCSfanz Thats exactly how I felt too!!!! Like obviously JTE and LG would get married and have a baby, but instead of showing us exactly that they just gave us Lady Noh saying those two lines " Ive been wondering when the Royal Ancestral Shrine will be completed. Will it be completed next year?". With ES and Nari, they're assumed to be married with ES calling her "wife" or whatever on the phone. Then instead of showing us JY and ES reunited, we just got LG saying "Did you get your license yet?" and ES saying "Yes, Class -1 special", meaning since ES completed his 64th dream of getting a license, thus ES completing his 65th dream of reunited with JY wasn't too far away. Lastly, instead of showing us the romance between JY and MSA, we got JTE saying how their romance would be a "triller thats a big hit" lol. LIKE GEEZ they could have shown all those scenes in a montage for all I care with LG and JTE voicing over to summarize at the same time !!!!:bawling:

 

 

it's a game that looks like "ladders" in korea.  I didn't expect he would cuss like that lol. 

 

@SweetButters you spoke my mind! i actually also want to see JY's interaction with his new siblings. and also the bromance between LG and JY seemed to have only barely scratched the surface.

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5 hours ago, Joanna Alfson said:

I wouldn't have minded seeing more of Jung Tae-Ra:joy:

 

HAHAHAHAHAH probably the best version of Jeong Tae Eul HAHAHAHHA

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Hi everyone! Although this is my first post, I have been reading all your theories and explanations with regards to this amazing drama and want to thank all of you for making watching this drama a more enjoyable experience. I have never been compelled to share my thoughts on a drama that I am watching but TK:EM is really something else! The plot, the chemistry between the casts and amazing visuals really got me hooked! Am sure gonna miss anticipating the next episodes every week. 
 

I personally thought the drama ended on a lovely note, like a nicely wrapped present with a bow on top. Not just because the OTP finally gets to do what normal couples get to do, that is go on dates albeit an unconventional and interesting ones, you can feel the ‘lightness’ on their shoulders so to speak. The way they move and interact with each other really gives off the vibe that they are deeply rooted and secure in the love that they have for each other which almost makes up for the lack of a wedding scene. Like they know that this is finally their happy ending. It is really a deserving ending for the OTP as they really haven’t had it easy from the start aye? 
 

One thing that confuses me though, is Lee Se Jin the daughter of the traitor cousin? If so, when JY sexily snapped of cousin traitor’s neck, she would cease to exist too in the future timeline? Then, I have a feeling that LG would not be abdicating his throne to her as mentioned in earlier episode. Maybe our OTP will get married someday and produce the next heir to the throne..suitable to the title of the drama, Eternal Monarch? Also because he apparently still have the flute till they’re in their golden years still hopping through different universe. 
 

 

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18 minutes ago, mychoiyoung said:

 

I thought Yoyo Kid is this deity... so why a bully to SJ? 

 

His not a deity but his the flute. I never agreed with these theories but nobody also predicted the Yoyo kid being the flute with all these theories you won't find one of them that gets it right with the flute kid 

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3 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

Okay i watched the episode!! 
 

JY..oh I cried when he protected young LG and then died :bawling:

 

but why do I feel so bittersweet..like the ending wasn’t enough. If Lady Noh could stay in KOC, how come TE didn’t? Perhaps she didn’t want to leave her loved ones behind. 
 

the idea that they are lovers and time traveling is quite refreshing but..why is it that I feel so bittersweet?? Lol. I can’t put my head around it yet.

 

but i do love the implication that they grew old together.. :wub:

 

It's because Lady Noh had lost her entire family in ROK.  Leaving that place was an easy choice for her.

For JTE, it was not an easy choice.  She still had a father in ROK whom she was very close to.   She had friends and a job she liked.  She can't just leave all that behind.

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Did anyone understand the leaves part? The part where they found the Joseon period and TE was looking through the luggage asking LG why he brought leaves. I couldn't understand what he meant

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