[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

[Joanna Alfson 5,973]

14 minutes ago, Rosemary83 said:

 

Nevetheless that girl killed her mate even without LR. So some events are just doomed) May be earlier LR helped Ji -Hun's dad to die but now it happens without his potential help. 

 

I found that interesting but also happy for Ji-huns mom she got rid of LR's doppleganger and got a happy ending with her son raising him

[wenchanteur 1,755]

5 hours ago, syntyche said:

 

 

Hey Monarchs! I would like to thank you all for visiting, posting, liking, and lurking on this thread. "The King" has been quite a ride for all of us. Kudos to us for sticking with the drama until the end. This has been a community where we share our theories, opinions, and expertise. You have made this into a friendly space where we could share our interest for the drama. Your determination to read all pages of this LTE-fast thread is admirable. (Apologies if I missed your names here. I tried my best to list all of those who posted in the last week.) 

 

 

I'm just here to say hello !!!

 

I'm glad about 2 things:

- My comic post about ending was partialy right, and a lot of (funny) things happened.

- My other post about ending was right too, final answer was : Gods of space time !

(it's just I did it without the plot-holes of the drama, lol !)

So finaly, I don't have to say "Im a loser".

[Jaja 938]

 

Yay it's Saturday!! Episode 17 tonight 

[Alice Wonderland 17,807]

1 hour ago, Wanderer062287 said:

7 hours ago, Alice Wonderland said:

I thought he should have the complete piece of the flute but yeah as I told you he still carries the half one like he always does.

 

Maybe the whole flute is in the whip? I have always thought that the whip now contains the whole flute hihi (would it fit? lol)

I'm going to think this way then. 

 

24 minutes ago, ms_inquiry said:

Re-watching the episode: When LG's reciting of the Four Swords inscription is inter-cut with his father's recital of it: I get a teensy bit emotional . The inscription becomes like a prayer, giving strength and guidance. That scene is beautiful as well, with the snow and the music.

I do shed some tears during this scene. It becomes more emotional for me when everything in both worlds are reset and disappears, return to its places.  

 

If I threw away all my expectations and see it objectively, the whole series did pretty well in general. They answered most major conflicts and mysteries, they solve them. Though some are left unexplained but that's minor. And what is more wonderful and beautiful is the drama is really so intriguing and entertaining till the last ride. The bitter part is why is it ended this fast. It makes some of us, well myself, need to vent some disappointments about certain things. But overall, it's still good. How should I put it. We're just get the most exciting part but they end it there like a long lasting cliffhanger. It's ended where it feels like there some more to tell. You see, I'm having a severe withdrawal syndrome here. What's the remedy...  I'm planning to rewatch the all episodes at this weekend. 

 

24 minutes ago, ms_inquiry said:

Would it be possible to have some more polls during this week? As a wrap-up? If people are interested and it is not too much bother? Would be great to have two polls about best episode - best of the first half and second half. Also maybe a poll about the most beautifully directed scene would be a really nice way to look back at some of the stunning scenes we've seen. I could compile a list of suggestions? 

Good idea! Let's call @vangsweetie637 perhaps we can do this again and ask for @Lmangla's help for this. 

[Time loop 4,567]

6 minutes ago, wenchanteur said:

 

I'm just here to say hello !!!

 

I'm glad about 2 things:

- My comic post about ending was partialy right, and a lot of (funny) things happened.

- My other post about ending was right to, final answer was : Gods of space time !

(it's just I did it without the plot-holes of the drama, lol !)

So finaly, I don't have to say "Im a loser".

 

Hahaha. You threw in there couple of guesses like saying ''GOOD ending'' but as for predicting segments nah! 

 

[lindas55 12,483]

5 hours ago, mychoiyoung said:

With all the imaginative POST-EPI16 theories still flying around, this is becoming TKEMT - THE KING: ETERNAL MONARCH OF THEORIES (still smh)

 

I am going to add to all the ideas and theories because like most of you I am just not ready to let this one go. My first reaction was mixed ( in retrospect because I just didn’t want it to end. I want more) so I watched episode 16 again. This time because I knew that things were going to turn out fine, I could begin to dream. So Miss Writer and Netflix I want a second season. There is so much more to this story. If you need ideas there are a lot of us here who could help you out. Here are mine.

• Our king needs an heir and queen, they need to get married so go back in time to lay the groundwork for JTE to have a history in KOC, She could be Luna’s long lost twin. But in doing this you will find Luna’s back story
• They travel back in time to tell Lady’s Noh’s back story.  I am sure that story would be interesting
• Travel to another parallel world to help there
• The King from an alternate world comes to our King’s world and causes problems which they must fix
• Something goes badly wrong in JTE’s ROK and the King and JTE must help fix that

I am sure there are a lot of other story lines that everyone here could add.  We need more time. We need a second season

[wenchanteur 1,755]

10 minutes ago, Time loop said:

 

Hahaha. You threw in there couple of guesses like saying ''GOOD ending'' but as for predicting segments nah! 

 

 

Aaaaaah, you want proof, isn't it ?

 

It was my 2 only post about ending.

 

About "gods ending"...

There is also a little plot-hole in my version, but you can solve it easely : put Tae Eul blood on flute.

Or you can just do it like this : Tae Eul and Lee Gon go in the past 3h before, and take another flute for Tae Eul.

I avoided the plot-hole "go back in time before the flut split" you see in the drama, so of course, I can't predict something based on plot-hole and breaking logical rules the drama set.

[violet.ears 314]

9 hours ago, SweetButters said:

Other inconsistencies was the whole magical flute thing appearing every 20 years and in the end seeing LG with still half a flute in his whip? That just lead me to all sorts of confused and messed up. Also what the heck did JTE tell Luna to get?????

 

So Luna was always suppose to have cancer and die early like that was her fate so I don't get why she's still alive at in 2022. Like the whole LR's doppelgänger having polio before and still after the time reset. So I thought it would make sense that getting certain illnesses does not change regardless of any time reset. 

 

Luna's fate from the get go was to be the twin that got cancer and died early while JTE was the twin that didn't get cancer and lived a long life which is balance. 

 

Also, they never did go over why she never has memories of her past either which lead me to think there was suppose to be a bigger story for Luna than originally intended by KES. The whole premise for Luna's criminal actions throughout the whole show is that she didnt have her past memories which caused her to become the way she was from stealing and whatever else. 

 

She probably got Luna to steal LR while she went to get the manpasikjeok from SJ. In a way, she leaves SJ with no choice but to hand the flute over because she would never handover LR otherwise and LG would not have been able to save the world.

 

I don't think that original Luna grew up without memories, if anything she simply grew up abandoned without parents thus having nothing to remember of them. While it was Luna's fate to be abandoned by her parents, it wasn't her fate was to remain a street kid and criminal eventually dying young of cancer. In a world without LR, some choices made by people are different and in this reset world the PM's mom decide to adopt her. ROK's LR was born with polio, but original Luna only got cancer in adulthood. Her new fate might mean her illness was never occurred or was delayed since she got a chance at living a proper life. She also now have the resources to seek treatment unlike the original Luna. In the reset world LJH didn't die early and was raised well, the same goes for LG. I think people in parallel worlds don't necessarily have to end up differently for balance.

 

 

[SCSfanz 1,564]

50 minutes ago, SweetButters said:

@SCSfanz what the heck !!! Why did Netflix translate so many things wrong, um could you translate that scene for me? I loved seeing JY's softer and sweet side towards the twins and MSA (Nari's KOC equivalent...its spelt like Myoung Seung A or something like that) lol. Wish we got to see more of that, but GOSH he's like a flip switch...one moment he's a cold blooded killer the next he's sweet as a teddy bear lol.

 

HAHAHAHAH POOR LG hahha but heyyyyy yo-yo kid can't simply give everything to LG....he's got to work for it lol.

 

@SweetButters "i am lee gon's royal guard dog and yet i lost ladder to these son of the B." when he said "lee gon's royal guard dog"  TE only caught 3 words from that phrase so she thought he said "lee gon you dog (which translates to lee gon you son of a B)" i suspect netflix uses some auto translator, it was all weird in your screen cap lol

 

i edited it cos the forum censored my post! LOL!!

[Time loop 4,567]

22 minutes ago, wenchanteur said:

 

Aaaaaah, you want proof, isn't it ?

 

It was my 2 only post about ending.

 

About "gods ending"...

There is also a little plot-hole in my version, but you can solve it easely : put Tae Eul blood on flute.

Or you can just do it like this : Tae Eul and Lee Gon go in the past 3h before, and take another flute for Tae Eul.

I avoided the plot-hole "go back in time before the flut split" you see in the drama, so of course, I can't predict something based on plot-hole and breaking logical rules the drama set.

 

What did I just read

 

I read thru it but I couldn't see much to prove your case 

 

 

Even from the beginning you said 5 mins action that was wrong and you mentioned several points the only thing you got correct is happy ending and that answer is like 50-50 and equal to tossing a coin

[rocher22 15,901]

 

 

 

[Heilo 3,692]

 

How are you all doing folks. Watched the episode on Netflix! Will dive deep into as soon I gather my thoughts 

 

 

[gwin 3,249]

It will take me sometime to write a proper recap to my final thoughts on the show, so for now I will just pop in with the random thoughts in my head.

I apologize for making a big deal about Chief Park and the constant references to his storyline.  I can't find my posts anymore but somewhere pages ago I complained about how much screentime was given to him and how we don't get a resolution about it.

So now we did, and I feel it's my fault. LOL.  

[realistic2280a 3,486]

Just finished watching the episode...

 

Hmm... i havent read others comment.. i want to put my thoughts here first...

 

1. How could they even cross the world every weekend??? Until they grew old?? I mean shouldnt someone make some sacrifice?... of coz we want JTE become queen and they dont have to cross the world like that 

 

2. Why did JY remember but not Lady Noh?

 

3. Nice plot twist on Luna being Koo adopted daughter...

 

4. SinJae became hot shot businessman, everyone rejoice right?

 

5. Yeong... well, he has his lovebird now too.. haha...

 

Im not sure im happy with such ending.. its like the writer didnt want to give a happy ending but forced to, hence we have somewhat a happy but unsatisfactory ending... hmm...  sigh

 

Gonna read the comments, backreading now.. 

[SCSfanz 1,564]

1 minute ago, gwin said:

It will take me sometime to write a proper recap to my final thoughts on the show, so for now I will just pop in with the random thoughts in my head.

I apologize for making a big deal about Chief Park and the constant references to his storyline.  I can't find my posts anymore but somewhere pages ago I complained about how much screentime was given to him and how we don't get a resolution about it.

So now we did, and I feel it's my fault. LOL.  

 

don't apologize, i did not even realize there was a story line for chief park. I don't even know who the lady was wtih him in ep 16! i must have subconsciously filtered out all his scenes 

[wenchanteur 1,755]

7 minutes ago, Time loop said:

 

Even from the beginning you said 5 mins action that was wrong and you mentioned several points the only thing you got correct is happy ending and that answer is like 50-50 and equal to tossing a coin

 

Waaaaah, first post was heavy parody, I never writed it so it will become truth!

But I was surprised that some points where true.

Action end at some point, mmmh, 10-12 minute maybe.

It's quite sluggish, you get boring scenes with Shin-Jay and his mother.

You get new stuff without explanation. And you don't get answers about many stuff.

 

I didn't predicted return of useless characters (old prince) or so many plot-holes, and I feel sorry because I could, as episode 14 and 15 already reached the limits about logical flaws.

[rocher22 15,901]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Time loop 4,567]

1 minute ago, SCSfanz said:

 

don't apologize, i did not even realize there was a story line for chief park. I don't even know who the lady was wtih him in ep 16! i must have subconsciously filtered out all his scenes 

 

I also ended up accidently filtering out some scenes from mind. Especially these scenes where SJ was visiting that psychologists I thought these scenes were unnecessary and don't remember much of it 

[Heilo 3,692]

12 minutes ago, gwin said:

It will take me sometime to write a proper recap to my final thoughts on the show, so for now I will just pop in with the random thoughts in my head.

I apologize for making a big deal about Chief Park and the constant references to his storyline.  I can't find my posts anymore but somewhere pages ago I complained about how much screentime was given to him and how we don't get a resolution about it.

So now we did, and I feel it's my fault. LOL.  

 

I was also wrong about few characters but it happens sometimes. 

 

Aside from that I wanna see a drama headlined by Jangmi-actor I just love that character and for me probably biggest breakout star. I mean like who doesn't love Jangmi

[Umjicheok 829]

6 hours ago, syntyche said:

 

Hey Monarchs! I would like to thank you all for visiting, posting, liking, and lurking on this thread. "The King" has been quite a ride for all of us. Kudos to us for sticking with the drama until the end. This has been a community where we share our theories, opinions, and expertise. You have made this into a friendly space where we could share our interest for the drama. Your determination to read all pages of this LTE-fast thread is admirable. 

In the midst of the challenges in the real world, the story of the parallel worlds, though mind-boggling, has become our escape. It has challenged us to expand our views and understanding, which made us appreciate more the hard work of the entire team of "The King." Lastly, thank you so much for your time. The greatest gift you can give somebody something is your time.

 

Do stick around, to ease our withdrawal syndrome. I believe there are viewers who would opt to binge-watch the drama after all episodes have been released. Who knows, they might come across this thread. It was great seeing you all here!  

 

Aww the fact that you tagged almost everyone is so sweet

 

Thanks everyone. I am happy that I could read and share our thoughts here in this lockdown * big hug to all*