[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

[Joanna Alfson]

3 minutes ago, Elnin Joery said:

 

This show dosen't have any triangle and thank god for that tbh that is a concept that has been overdone again and again and again in Kdramas. Two girls fighting for one guy or vice versa where two guys are fighting for one girl 

 

Yep. Its a cliche and hell'va tiring and overused. I am so happy we don't have it in TKEM 

[koreaboooo]

30 minutes ago, CallieP said:

I am 20 pages behind have not seen all the comments but episode 15 have created more questions:-

1. To go back to 1994 again, both LG and LR must be together with their flutes, correct?  It does not work for JY or SJ. However since LG now has the two halves and he can travel like his ancestors, back in time, lateral, etc without causing time to stop, why did he not go back in time and kill the young LR alone.  Why did he need to ask SJ to bring LR back to the past as well?  He does not need to take LR with him, right???

 

The flute LR owned wouldn't work with LR. LR's blood is in it so LR is needed for the flute to work. SJ need to bring LR with him to go back to the past.

 

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When LG was travelling through the 26 years going in and out, it seems to me that LR did not realize that or feel the time stops. He only noticed it again when he was strangling the PM that LG had crossed the portal but LG had been crossing the portal the past 4 months many times, enough to warn LR or does crossing in previous years not affect present year so LR does not notice it?

 

What makes you think LR didn't notice? LR obviously knew when LG passes through, the time would stop. He only mentioned it that time because he knows LG came back to KOC for the late Queen's funeral. 

 

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Su Jin is supposed to be the heir if LG dies. He made the law before he plans to leave but she was killed and I believe the heir after her. Two were killed so now LG has no heirs should he die. What will happen then?  Who is the next heir?  The exiled son of Prince Buyeong?

 

Pretty sure exiled son won't be King but no one knows for sure since there's no mention of it. Also this future will change regardless since LG is going to kill LR and all who is siding with him during the coup.

 

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He still plans to go back and he expects to die. Actually if he dies at 8 years old, Prince Buyeong will take over, right?

 

Prince Buyeong will most likely be the next king after LG kills LR and the people siding with him.

 

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He said he had the scar because it was his destiny to kill his young self. However JTE plans to take the place of SJ. Can she change the trajectory of fate? 

 

Probably. She may be the one to save child LG. If LG is putting all his focus into killing LR and his men, then JTE's focus could be used to save child LG, but we won't know for sure what she really hopes to do. 

 

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JTE wants Luna to take her place and be with her father while she leaves to be with LG. She said Luna will live, how?  Do she have a cure for Luna?  Does Luna need an organ? How is she going to get an organ for Luna when she plans to leave almost immediately with LR? She can't donate, she does not have time.

 

She might replace child Luna with herself or perhaps leaving her organs for Luna in the past since she believes she may die anyways. She doesn't have time in 2020 but she'll have loads of time in 1994.

 

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The flowers LG gave JTE when he came from the future disappeared which hints that LG never came from the future to see her. Does that mean he dies (sad ending)  or that he does not need to return from the future because he is in the present with her (happy ending)???

 

I'm one who believes this show will have a happy ending so for me it may be the latter.

 

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In the preview, is the guy in the military uniform Ji Hun? You can see the name there but I can't read Korean.  If it is Ji Hun that means the couple in the 1950s is Ji Hun and JTE that end up together? LG dies as a child. but they cannot go back in time though as there is no flute. So is it really the 50s? Both are in ROK and there is not flute in ROK.

 

Yes the guy in the military uniform is JH. No, JH and JTE did not end up together. It's better you don't think the stills or spoilers are showing time linearly. I would think LG did manage to kill LR and so JH is able to live but it wouldn't make sense for him to be with JTE since JH and LG are two different people. I would think after LG is able to kill LR, he would still be able to meet JTE somehow as they're fated to be together regardless and this time LG will have the whole flute to maybe they're just time travelling couple going on a date in 1950 to watch a movie.

 

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So this trip back to the 1994 has both LG and JY going back to the night of treason. I got it right this time so do I get to change from horseshoe to Maximus or LG and JTE ?

 

I believe it's been said this wouldn't count since this isn't the initial savior. You'll notice they're wearing different outfits and it was a plan thought up in this time loop thus JY was not part of the savior of child LG. Also keep in mind, LG is planning for the death of child LG this time around too. If child LG isn't saved then wouldn't make sense to call them saviors of child LG. They're savior of the world but not the savior child LG was looking for before.

[jerboa83]

17 minutes ago, CallieP said:

I am 20 pages behind have not seen all the comments but episode 15 have created more questions:-

1. To go back to 1994 again, both LG and LR must be together with their flutes, correct?  It does not work for JY or SJ. However since LG now has the two halves and he can travel like his ancestors, back in time, lateral, etc without causing time to stop, why did he not go back in time and kill the young LR alone.  Why did he need to ask SJ to bring LR back to the past as well?  He does not need to take LR with him, right???
2. When LG was travelling through the 26 years going in and out, it seems to me that LR did not realize that or feel the time stops. He only noticed it again when he was strangling the PM that LG had crossed the portal but LG had been crossing the portal the past 4 months many times, enough to warn LR or does crossing in previous years not affect present year so LR does not notice it?
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4. Su Jin is supposed to be the heir if LG dies. He made the law before he plans to leave but she was killed and I believe the heir after her. Two were killed so now LG has no heirs should he die. What will happen then?  Who is the next heir?  The exiled son of Prince Buyeong?
5. He still plans to go back and he expects to die. Actually if he dies at 8 years old, Prince Buyeong will take over, right?
6. He said he had the scar because it was his destiny to kill his young self. However JTE plans to take the place of SJ. Can she change the trajectory of fate? 
7. JTE wants Luna to take her place and be with her father while she leaves to be with LG. She said Luna will live, how?  Do she have a cure for Luna?  Does Luna need an organ? How is she going to get an organ for Luna when she plans to leave almost immediately with LR? She can't donate, she does not have time.
8. The flowers LG gave JTE when he came from the future disappeared which hints that LG never came from the future to see her. Does that mean he dies (sad ending)  or that he does not need to return from the future because he is in the present with her (happy ending)???
9. In the preview, is the guy in the military uniform Ji Hun? You can see the name there but I can't read Korean.  If it is Ji Hun that means the couple in the 1950s is Ji Hun and JTE that end up together? LG dies as a child. but they cannot go back in time though as there is no flute. So is it really the 50s? Both are in ROK and there is not flute in ROK.
10. So this trip back to the 1994 has both LG and JY going back to the night of treason. I got it right this time so do I get to change from horseshoe to Maximus or LG and JTE ?

I have the exact same doubts... 
Who would reign if Lee Gon died? Prince Buyeong, I guess, but his son is a traitor, so leaving the throne in that family's hands is quite a risky move... The female relative who died in the car accident would be alive, too, but she probably wouldn't be next in line (at least not for many years).
Now that he has both pieces of the flute, can't Lee Gon travel to whatever year he wants (before the coup)? Maybe not, 'cause the flute is broken anyway...

+ So the two different pairs of black/grey sneakers worn by the savior(s) are just a mistake? Gon and Yeong are going in together, but they are wearing completely different outfits...

[Amy323]

35 minutes ago, kboramint said:

In my opinion, PM Koo has become pretty much a pointless second female lead. She's just there. I feel that Kim Go-Eun could of played the second female lead herself being Luna.  

Yes totally agree with you on that. Luna as the second lead would have been way more interesting

But can we talk about PM Koo after she realized her mom had been replaced? Her acting was crazy good

[Alice Wonderland]

13 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

Don't get me started with the painting!

 

Borrowed your picture since I can't quote pics. 

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The hands

 The body!!!

It's all wrong!!!

The shape of the hands. OMG

The shoulder, the hands. OMG

 

No wonder Lady Noh looks not impressed.

 

This painter should be beheaded!!!

 

Look I want to address this part too. LOL. When they show us that painting result, whoever made this, must have a grudge against LG. Let's off with his head!!! 

 

14 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

Geez.. I tried to combine my comments for page 722 till 725 and they keep disappearing. 

Looks like I can only comment page by page else I'll be erased from moving forward. LOL

This is my 3rd time re typing my comments and I give up. I only remembered these 2. LOL

It happens sometimes, but for your tips, you can combine comments for some pages but before you move on it's better to copy it first. The browser I used usually has an auto-save function which actually will redisplay the last comments I typed even after I move to another pages. 

 

12 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

This page won't stop increasing.

I'm still stuck in the past.  

At this rate, I don't have to watch LIVE if I can never catch up! LOL

Hahaha... look I managed to find your posts and being entertained with them. Because I feel like you do. I'm travelling back to the past now. This way, I may share some burden of our king who can't come back to the present soon. LOL

Edited June 6, 2020 by Jillia
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[wenchanteur]

3 hours ago, madmad min said:

I again say You are Brutal Lol.

 

And no Her Period ain't gonna convince Manpasikjeok to activate Lol She is going with LR to bamboo portal .

 

Uh-huh...
At least she had some pleasure trying...

[Heretorant]

42 minutes ago, Alice Wonderland said:

I read some posts asking where they caught LR. They caught him in KOC. It means SJ is going to KOC along with LG in his return. It's how SJ finally meets his KOC mom and ressolved their past. Then perhaps as LG plans SJ brought him to ROK. This part makes me a bit confused, why would bring him back there when he can imprison him some where down deep in the ground detention while proceeding with other plans. So we're got see more flashback of this next week. 

I wanted to correct this. They actually caught him in ROK. 
 

The scenes happened in this order:

 

1) LR and PM meets underground in KOC. LR chokes her. 

2) LG and SJ crosses to KOC, time stops. LR is still in the middle of choking PM. LR leaves.

3) LG is back to business in KOC. He catches up with what’s been going on and he stops traitor from leaving the country. 
4) SJ meets mother in KOC.

5) LG and SJ sits by the pond and had a sad talk in KOC.

6) LR is seen entering ROK. LG’s “mother” poisons herself. Time stops (LG and SJ enters ROK). 
7) They catch LR. Don’t ask me how SJ made it that far. Wasn’t he supposed to have been frozen? Lol. But it is what it is. 

8) SJ and JY both steps up to be the one who escorts LR to travel back. SJ tells JY, “I told you many times to get lost and go to your own world. Give me the piece. When should I go?”

 

Verdict: LR was caught in ROK.

[CallieP]

50 minutes ago, Elnin Joery said:

 

Hahaha. @CallieP seems like your AV has upgraded by losing from a random C to golden horse-shoe. 

We need a baddie attached to that AV pic. 

I thought if you win, you put a photo of Maximus but if you lose, you put a photo of a horseshoe. Was I wrong?

Anyway I guessed LG and JY,  I was right the second time. 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Jillia
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[Alice Wonderland]

3 minutes ago, Heretorant said:

I wanted to correct this. They actually caught him in ROK. 
 

The scenes happened in this order:

 

1) LR and PM meets underground in KOC. LR chokes her. 

2) LG and SJ crosses to KOC, time stops. LR is still in the middle of choking PM. LR leaves.

3) LG is back to business in KOC. He catches up with what’s been going on and he stops traitor from leaving the country. 
4) SJ meets mother in KOC.

5) LG and SJ sits by the pond and had a sad talk in KOC.

6) LR is seen entering ROK. LG’s “mother” poisons herself. Time stops (LG and SJ enters ROK). 
7) They catch LR. Don’t ask me how SJ made it that far. Wasn’t he supposed to have been frozen? Lol. But it is what it is. 

8) SJ and JY both steps up to the the one who escorts LR to travel back. SJ tells JY, “I told you many times to get lost and go to your own world. Give me the piece. When should I go?”

 

Verdict: LR was caught in ROK.

Well, I guess I need to rewatch this part again. Love how you elaborated the sequences before your final verdict. Hahaha. 

[wenchanteur]

8 minutes ago, Heretorant said:

I wanted to correct this. They actually caught him in ROK. 
 

The scenes happened in this order:

 

1) LR and PM meets underground in KOC. LR chokes her. 

2) LG and SJ crosses to KOC, time stops. LR is still in the middle of choking PM. LR leaves.

3) LG is back to business in KOC. He catches up with what’s been going on and he stops traitor from leaving the country. 
4) SJ meets mother in KOC.

5) LG and SJ sits by the pond and had a sad talk in KOC.

6) LR is seen entering ROK. LG’s “mother” poisons herself. Time stops (LG and SJ enters ROK). 
7) They catch LR. Don’t ask me how SJ made it that far. Wasn’t he supposed to have been frozen? Lol. But it is what it is. 

8) SJ and JY both steps up to the the one who escorts LR to travel back. SJ tells JY, “I told you many times to get lost and go to your own world. Give me the piece. When should I go?”

 

Verdict: LR was caught in ROK.

 

OMG !!!

Really sorry, but it remind me this :

 

 

[Elnin Joery]

1 minute ago, CallieP said:

I thought if you win, you put a photo of Maximus but if you lose, you put a photo of a horseshoe. Was I wrong?

Anyway I guessed LG and JY,  I was right the second time. 

 

There is two options either horseshoe or a villain from TKEM but it seems like you have upgraded with your new AV somehow

I suggest you pull down that one and take an AV from one of the gangs from the salt farm

 

 

[ponderings]

56 minutes ago, Ameera Ali said:

Sad Love story

I'm sorry to cut off your post..you can behead me if you want hahaha

I read sad love story in Kudo Hina's voice (Kim Min Jung in Mr. Sunshine) and then when I saw the cute gif. I laughed. haha 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Jillia
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[rocher22]

 

 

 

[CallieP]

1 minute ago, Elnin Joery said:

 

There is two options either horseshoe or a villain from TKEM but it seems like you have upgraded with your new AV somehow

I suggest you pull down that one and take an AV from one of the gangs from the salt farm

 

 

I chose the horseshoe so not sure why it is an upgrade if you mean upgrade from no AV at all to an AV? I prefer loser horseshoe than loser gang from salt farm. I can't find the regular horseshoe that someone posted but I took this from the AV of another loser, stole his or her AV, don't remember whom but it was also a loser.  

[sal2]

In case other preview get taken down here is from SBS instagram  

 

Wow, another epic episode. Have to say this story have so many layers and intricate plot. Understand why some would say it is confusing, but to me if you give the story time you will understand it and its structure. People often want answer fast, but I think letting things play out is more satisfying as it give time to answer all question in a timely matter.    

 

Now i pray for a happy ending for our LG and TG  after all the misery they deserve to get their happiness and finally being together for the rest of their life.

 

 

 

[Alice Wonderland]

12 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

But then she is annoying now because she OMFG POISONED OUR KING, STABBED OUR QUEEN AND WANTS THE FLUTE!

But thanks to Luna, JTE can meet him and make him stay longer. And I wonder what is JTE asking her to steal? Was it the flute half or what? The flute is with SJ.

 

Like you do, I need to finish the backreading, I'm in page 736, still stuck in the past here.  

[kboramint]

22 minutes ago, Amy323 said:

Yes totally agree with you on that. Luna as the second lead would have been way more interesting

But can we talk about PM Koo after she realized her mom had been replaced? Her acting was crazy good

 

 

So, PM Koo's mom was replaced? I didn't see that coming. 

[AgentQuake]

18 minutes ago, Heretorant said:

I wanted to correct this. They actually caught him in ROK. 
 

The scenes happened in this order:

 

1) LR and PM meets underground in KOC. LR chokes her. 

2) LG and SJ crosses to KOC, time stops. LR is still in the middle of choking PM. LR leaves.

3) LG is back to business in KOC. He catches up with what’s been going on and he stops traitor from leaving the country. 
4) SJ meets mother in KOC.

5) LG and SJ sits by the pond and had a sad talk in KOC.

6) LR is seen entering ROK. LG’s “mother” poisons herself. Time stops (LG and SJ enters ROK). 
7) They catch LR. Don’t ask me how SJ made it that far. Wasn’t he supposed to have been frozen? Lol. But it is what it is. 

8) SJ and JY both steps up to be the one who escorts LR to travel back. SJ tells JY, “I told you many times to get lost and go to your own world. Give me the piece. When should I go?”

 

Verdict: LR was caught in ROK.

 

You are right! 

 

Also - when LL is shot, the crowd scatters and runs without a second glance at the King standing their without his guardsmen.  Back arrives and it's JY with his gun, and SJ, who deliberately makes a big deal out of putting on his police badge. By putting it on, he prevents any bystanders from calling the cops on JY and LG, and shows that he's law enforcement.  Charlies Angels then take LG to the forest, and this time - SJ, LL, and LL's half of the flute stays behind.  SJ can keep LL in custody for 48 hours, so LG and JY have 48 hours to get ready for their plan of attack to go back in time.

[koreaboooo]

The romance we didn't know we needed until now.

 

[Elnin Joery]

12 minutes ago, CallieP said:

I chose the horseshoe so not sure why it is an upgrade if you mean upgrade from no AV at all to an AV? I prefer loser horseshoe than loser gang from salt farm. I can't find the regular horseshoe that someone posted but I took this from the AV of another loser, stole his or her AV, don't remember whom but it was also a loser.  

 

Hahahah. I am just messing with you