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[Drama 2020] The King: Eternal Monarch, 더 킹: 영원의 군주

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Just now, Dramafreak said:

cc @Umjicheok

 

I am now tempted by the theory that JY might be there on that night too. Simply because he said in his VO when LG is moving in the battlefield that I will follow him in this battle also... And we don't know how good he is with guns but he definitely is good at fights.

 

I did think that the side profile of one of the black suited people was of a woman, but ... Oh Well!!


I said this before as a joke, but it’s always possible that Lee Gon just packs up everyone he knows in a bus and they go on a road trip to ‘94.  

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This was a good episode.

 

I guess one major mystery has been solved :ph34r:, though is it just a coincidence that Shin Jae and Lee Gon were wearing the same jacket? 

 

I guess we finally got to see PM Koo's true colours. I must admit I am a tad bit disappointed with her, though I guess, she is sticking to her character.

 

Luna in ROK - I can only imagine the intrusion and invasion of privacy JTE must have felt knowing that Luna had been in her room, was using her phone, messaging her dad. 

 

Regarding the lightning scars - if Luna were to die of natural causes - I guess JTE would not get the scar.

 

Three favourite scenes were 1) where JTE "introduces" LG as her boyfriend to her father. 2) LG gifting Eun Sup with the car. 3) Eun Sup saying everything he needs is right here - while hugging his siblings and Na-ri. :D

 

I am a bit concerned with Caption Jo trying to persuade Shin Jae to pursue JTE. I am sure that he is only looking out for LG, but I can't help feel a little troubled by his approach.

 

I think the show has poised itself nicely to wrap up most loose ends over the next three episodes. 

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What an episode I just witnessed there is so many things to touch on I don't know where to even begin. This is a masterpiece and I never thought I would say this about any series it just seems to hit the right spots subtly one way or another and I can't explain how but it just dose. Everything is just subtle and flows automatically and it has addictive abilities and I can't put words on it why and where that factor comes from even tho I have my own theories why.

 

I wanna touch upon some points and add my own theory on top of it. 

 

- Lee Gon finding out about Luna it took less then minutes and he said ''is maybe because I have weakness for that face'' 

- Everything we have assumed about LG is true that he is indeed very sharp and detailed he figured her out quite easily

- JY and LG time together was great to see and their chemistry is great. True bromance without forcing it or anything it's smooth. Like people who have known each other for a very long time and they also go way back and you can see that on their interactions. 

 

- Luna has turned truly dark but kinda felt sorry for her as she just wanted a family and it was heart warming seeing her hug JTE's dad and wanted him to become her dad. That was seriously a cute moment. 

- JTE's dad is easily one of my favourite characters aside from the lead couple. What a great dad his a mood. His one of these type of people who could brighten your day regardless of the situation. He gets my oscar for the dad of the year

- Jangmi's counterpart works for LG and part of his personal palace guards that was an interesting surprise and he didn't look like a thug here but more official figure like. 

- We found out that LG's grandfather was a time-traveller

 

Theory: 

 

Obviously I believe in a timelopp theory where things have repeated but I don't feel like we have been in this loop like 100 times or something like that but max 3 takes while for LG and JTE 2 takes so far. Everything we saw in the series is the second time they meet. The first time they meet was not shown except for LG carrying JTE's badge and dropped it to his younger self from that we know that they meet once before the series. 

 

JTE-LG meetings and their own timeloop: This timeloop only focusses on the main couple. I believe there was one timeline altering before their meeting but I am not gonna go into that but only focus on their own timeloop. 

 

Timeline 1: JTE-LG meet for the first time (We haven't seen these events but what we saw is LG carrying her ID card so we can assume that this timeline has taken place)

 

Timeline 2: JTE-LG meet again where LG hugs her but she arrests him because she dosen't know him (All of this we have seen in the series from EP1)

 

Timeline 3: We have seen on the trailer this timeline unfolding and we will see it in the coming episodes when LG reset's the timeline which means he has to fix everything in Timeline 2 in order to begin Timeline 3

 

Edit: By the way I apologize for the long post after re-reading it I realized how long this is actully

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Just noticed something. In KOC is the written language Chinese and not the new Korean Alphabet?  The huge picture of LG on a building had Chinese characters on it. The first word being "Large" or "Big"  I happen to be able to read that word. Anyway, it is not the Korean alphabet even if I read the first word wrongly. Just curious.

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@agentquake you are funny :D

 

@Heretorant and @Umjicheok after seeing the last sequence of LG with Luna... all I will say is: I don't know. They are hinting at LG being the only one! How many hours or days to Friday?

 

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I just watched episode 13 today and man I need Friday to come already...  I really wish SBS showed that movie during another time slot.  Hehe. I'm not even in Korea. The mystery just keeps going.  I do hope all will be resolved.  I have watched 4 of KES's shows and loved all of them.  

 

Netflix did not show a lot of preview for episode 14.  They just showed the guy who saved the young king or maybe i missed it cause I just wanted to watch more of the show. LOL.  I'll check again later.  I was already thinking after episode 10 that the savior was Lee Gon because everyone talked about time travel after the flower end scene.  What do you guys think about the savior actually being Jo Young?  There was one shot of the savior during the preview that looked like JY in the outfit Tae Eul gave LG.  I think I'm just over thinking. By the way, did anyone notice something about JY's attitude?  He seemed a little different in this episode.  Anyway, I'm already wanting Friday to come.  I'll just rewatch the previous episode again. I guess....:confused:

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12 minutes ago, CallieP said:

Just noticed something. In KOC is the written language Chinese and not the new Korean Alphabet?  The huge picture of LG on a building had Chinese characters on it. The first word being "Large" or "Big"  I happen to be able to read that word. Anyway, it is not the Korean alphabet even if I read the first word wrongly. Just curious.


大韩帝国

Kingdom of Corea, direct translation Big Korean Kingdom.  
I’m not super familiar with Korean language history but they used Hanja/Chinese characters until what, 1900ish?  Maybe this is just another deviation because their 20th century history was so different. 
 

But I’ve definitely seen modern Korean characters there, right?

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4 hours ago, Umjicheok said:

That is not going to be small change for all of us here.:joy:

 

 

Lmao. It's a small change when you look at the bigger picture but I understand where you coming from:joy: The LG-JTE ship is larger then life now:kiss_wink:

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21 minutes ago, AgentQuake said:

Last episode when we found out Lady Noh was brought over at the age of 17, we actually came up with a pretty good theory that she’s LR’s mother, or aunt.  
 

Born in 1932, came over in 1949, LR born in Feb 1951 to a concubine.  LG’s dad was born some years later.  If we go off of Kwon Yul’s real age, then he was 37 in 1994, born about 6 years after LR.  Lady Noh has no status, although I’m sure with the lack of technology in the 50s, it’s easier to hide her origin, as opposed to JTE.  She went from illegal immigrant to top dog in the castle, and was already Head of the court by ‘94.

 

She dressed up to spread his ashes.  If she was truly 100% against him, I don’t think she would’ve done that.  I have no doubt that she’s 100% loyal to LG, but there’s something in her that treated the ashes with dignity. 
 

Lee Lim was treated VERY well for being a bastard son.  Imperial Prince, very influential, walked around the Palace as he liked...he obviously couldn’t be king but he had power and influence.  In Chinese harem dramas, the Emperors always treated the favored consorts children very well.  Or, the more favored the child was, the more that the consort got.  If Grandpa King loves Lady Noh, then it makes sense that he would raise her to an elevated position and treat her son well.  It appeared that until his death, Papa King respected his brother a lot and LG also had a good relationship with his uncle. 
 

We will see!
 

 

 

The more I'm reading about this, the more I'm convinced Lady Noh is indeed LR's mother. :crazy:  And his father is one of the KOC royals.  

Though that would also seem to make them the star-crossed, lovers-from-two-universes mirror version of JTE/LG.  Except Lady Noh and whoever her KOC beloved ended in tragedy and the product of their love, their son LR, became a monster who nearly destroyed a family/the royal house?  Thus could be JTE/LG the mirror version of that first (if tragic) star-crossed love story, but JTE/LG meant to avert that sad ending (and their children become decent, heroic leaders who secure the royal legacy)?

Ya know, that could also be contributing to Noh's apparent disdain of KSR too.  KSR is clearly a cold-blooded operator largely only really thinking about herself and Noh is very likely right in her assessment she'd be all wrong for LG.  She'd be adept and ruthless in the political aspect of being queen, but as for wife and love of LG?  I think Noh doesn't like that idea at all (and I think she realizes or steadily coming to realize JTE fits that bill, though, in theory based on her own sad experiences, she'd have little reason to think they could have a happy ending).  Noh may not like the idea of KSR as queen because she herself had to suffer watching someone she loved in a loveless, arranged marriage with someone too similar to KSR.  Some selfish, manipulative opportunist only thinking about securing her own power and glory, caring little about her husband's (or her children's) physical or emotional well-being.  Noh may have been there for him (and, in theory, her son) for some of it, but they could never truly be together.  At some point, the wife may have caught on to what was going on and sent Noh away (if Noh's love had been King Haejong, that could be when Noh got sent off to be a court lady in Jong-in's house.  Jong-in looking after her when his brother couldn't).

In theory, could also be a contributing factor to how / why LR turned out like he did.  That for all he did have the favor of court, raised wealthy & want of nothing and likely had the favor of whoever his royal father was (though LR could still never be king)?  His father's wife may have hated him and Noh knew it, but she couldn't do anything about it.  His father's wife mistreating LR, always made him feel like he should have never been born and his father never stood up for him, etc etc. and every other usual reason a royal bastard may develop a chip on their shoulder and eventually and brutally turn on their family/father.

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7 hours ago, vangsweetie637 said:

Now finally watching the episode and I already wanna do this to PM:


Super satisfying though, PM has to show up with pre-set appointments and dressed in her finest, and she still gets kicked out.  
 

JTE’s wandering around in her sweats and doesn’t even knock before bathing into LG’s rooms, nor does he expect her to.

 

@cpt_falcon in the first episode when Lady Noh is placing talismans, she also said she got the ones to help him find a “lover”.  Not a wife, partner, or Queen, but a lover.  This could also be an indicator of how she feels.  She’s the only person advising him who’s mentioned anything about actually loving whoever the Queen is.  
 

Except Secretary Mo, aka @Heretorant.  She just wants the juicy goss.

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Well... after watching the episode, it occured to me, being pervert that i am... if JTE got pregnant when she is bk in ROK.. while LG is in KOC:D

 

Coz if he left a few weeks, it would be a few months in ROK... imagine... JTE giving birth when he is  finally able to visit her:D

 

Yes, well.. everyone cant predict where the story is going, and i just hope it wouldnt end up as unsatisfying as Goblin. Sigh... 

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Morning! Page 619.  I see.

Will have to watch the episode first!

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I legit LOL and all those analysis u girls did regarding whether they did it or not. And I am still wondering what "you like wrapping it/you like wrapping stuff etc" supposed to mean in ep14. 

 

I honestly don't think they actually went all the way... LG seem to be that kind of "old-fashioned" namchin with the way he acted all embarrassed when TE ask him to chek her shoulder. But it is confirmed they are definitely sleeping together. As in same room. Just maybe not doing it. Hahahaha. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, realistic2280a said:

Well... after watching the episode, it occured to me, being pervert that i am... if JTE got pregnant when she is bk in ROK.. while LG is in KOC:D

 

Coz if he left a few weeks, it would be a few months in ROK... imagine... JTE giving birth when finally is able to visit her:D

 

Yes, well.. everyone cant predict where the story is going, and i just hope it wouldnt end up as unsatisfying as Goblin. Sigh... 

 

Hahaha. The next time he leaves and returns kid is 2 years 

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5 hours ago, Umjicheok said:
5 hours ago, kimchijjigae said:

Yup I think so. He's probably the one in the locked room at the care center that's why the hospital manager(?) was so surprised to see him when he's supposed to be in a coma. 

That will also support LG's theory that the scars are those who killed their counterparts. SJ does not have scars because his counterpart is still alive. 

 

Just realized that LG is making theories as well. Maybe he can join this soompi forum :D

 

I was thinking about his statement. If he said that the scars are those who killed their counterparts then how come he has the scar? His counterpart is not killed by him. Either the translation was not correct or I don't recall properly hence I didn't mention it :sweatingbullets: 

 

Also I wonder whether the flute connects Lee lim and LG somehow because they both are responsible for breaking it and both of their blood flowed through the flute. Somewhat like harry-voldy soul sharing , here Lee gon and Lee lim connected by blood flowing through the flute:lol:

 

Only shows what LG knows SO FAR.  The viewing audience has seen more cos we can see what LR is doing and we are therefore ahead of LG in this respect.

 

But hey, he told TE he is a fast learner, right? He will catch up eventually hehe

 

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7 minutes ago, AgentQuake said:

Super satisfying though, PM has to show up with pre-set appointments and dressed in her finest, and she still gets kicked out.  

JTE’s wandering around in her sweats and doesn’t even knock before bathing into LG’s rooms, nor does he expect her to.

 

JTE walking around like she's at home and KSR only ever a visitor in the palace. ;)

Also how JTE never uses the right honorifics for LG(always speaks to him informally), while KSR always ever addresses him like 99.9% of the rest of the population, all his subordinates, does.  On so many levels, for how special she thinks she is, KSR is absolutely nothing and never special to LG.  Just another one of his subjects and one he doesn't particularly like very much and now realizes is flat-out betraying him and KOC to the murderous traitor.

Though KSR should take heart LR seem to find her amusing (if in a condescending way).  That's something I suppose.  And she tried playing that game right back at him and that look he gave her... not sure if he wanted to kill her or pound rice (:lol:) with her.  Though reading through the thread, I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw actual chemistry between KSR and LR.  If there's an evil alt. universe out there somewhere, they should run off there and take it over. :lol:  Those two are two predator peas in a pod.

 

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@cpt_falcon in the first episode when Lady Noh is placing talismans, she also said she got the ones to help him find a “lover”.  Not a wife, partner, or Queen, but a lover.  This could also be an indicator of how she feels.  She’s the only person advising him who’s mentioned anything about actually loving whoever the Queen is.

 

 

Lady Noh, perhaps more than anyone and very possibly due to her own experiences, probably knows the importance of love for psychological and emotional well-being of the country's ruler.  She may also know from her own experiences how very bad things can go if that love isn't ever there.  Someone like KSR would consider that secondary or doesn't truly know the concept of real love between a wife and husband (and the fact she flat-out said she'd "crush" LG's heart rather than how to woo him, major warning bells from Lady Noh and she said as much.  KSR was a big no-no for LG).  It's apparent KSR's first marriage was strictly one of convenience and her garnering the status, social and financial, she wanted.  Then when she got that status, she ditched her husband.  He was nothing but a pawn for her to use and dispose of.  LG would be no different if she managed to get her claws in him.

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